> > I just went to one of my "rw" boards (with IE and Netscape)... > ...no pop-ups. > I then went to the "an" version...got the Michelin pop-up (with IE + NS). > RE: "just timing" ...maybe/sometimes I always use the "RW"...I try to stay away from commercial sites I mainly use Netscape (currently V4.78)... ...I've noticed I get more pop-ups on sites if I visit them with IE ...they must not like something in the Java for NS ...or the way I've got cookies set in NS If I need to be "in" for a while...I turn on my pop-up killer =================== Actions I take... Send "not appreciated" e-mails to the Rootsweb helpdesk and I send "not getting my business" e-mails to the advertisers... ...I send to: ABUSE@domain.name *

Hi David: << if you dont have popup killer, then you will always have problems with them. My popup killers zap them before I even see them. >> A teeny note of caution to AOL subscribers and I imagine many others who do not use a stand-alone browser. Many (maybe all?) of the pop-up killers require you to reconfigure your browser a bit which you probably can't do if your browser is provided by your ISP. Before you install a pop-up killer, be sure to carefully read the information that comes with it or is provided on the website. I know of a couple of AOL subscribers who installed a *great* pop-up killer without checking on its compatibility with AOL ... it wasn't compatible, messed up their system royally, and necessitated reinstalling AOL. John Fuller johnf14246@aol.com

Sincere thanks to all who shared info regarding the requirements for a second rootsweb site for our Historical Soc. I appreciate your advice and will follow up on it. Annita

We, who have GenWeb pages in Iowa are lucky...! Loren Toomsen has set up our own IaGenWeb boards, so we don't have to use the Ancestry boards.. Take a look at the state level page where you can click on a county. http://iagenweb.org/state/topquery.htm All coordinators didn't choose to use it, but it's SO easy to manage the boards, and easy for the researcher to post to them. For an example, go to this Story Co. page. You can use the pop down to see other documents, or ALL for the county.. http://iagenweb.org/boards/story/obituaries/index.cgi Some of us helped to support the start up costs and will continue to donate to it because we like the "freedom" of this system. Notice that it is www.iagenweb.org By putting a slash and county name, we can easily go to any county webpage and not worry about a broken link. We still have our regular URLs.... as Rootsweb.com/~.... The search engine pulls up all you want to see from the IaGenWeb boards. They are "user friendly" like the old Gen Connect boards. You can search a county, or all counties. Janelle Hamilton Co., Iowa CC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: [RW-Help] Stinking Ads on Rootsweb > I've just about had it with the ads that keep coming up when I check the > Message Boards on Rootsweb. Now it's the Michelin Tire ad that opens up > in an under-window. The worst part of it is, killing the window sometimes > kills my mouse and I have to reboot my computer to recover. This seems to > happen if you interrupt javascript ads before they completely open. And > please, don't tell me to get a software download to block pop-under > windows. I think we should be doing something to stop this intrusion > rather than finding esoteric workarounds that will not be generaly known > to the average user. If I was just some clueless newbie coming on to the > Rootsweb message boards looking for an ancestor, I would now be getting > the distinct impression that this is a commercial website, rather than a > volunteer effort. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website > Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > ______________________________

If we are airing our pet peeves. I get a little pesky each time Ancestry offers me a free trial subscription and then requires my credit card #. I'd much rather give out my snail mail address than my credit card #. This little request really ticks me off me. They have you subscribe on line. But, for security purposes have you cancel by phone. Go figure. Marla ----- Original Message ----- From: "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Stinking Ads on Rootsweb > Well, cheer up, guys, our boards are about to get active again. GenForum > is now requiring registration before they let you post. Their registration > includes you snail-mail addy. Lots of people are jumping ship and heading > back to Ancestry. > > I DESPERATELY wish I could get a preview instead of just that measly little > "There's a New Message" nonsense. Logging off from this computer, booting > the other one, logging on from there, going to the board and finding > "Great! Thanks, Sally! Love, Angie" isn't my idea of the way to use a > quarter hour. > > Cheryl > > > At 02:57 PM 03/25/2002 -0500, Susan W Pieroth wrote: > >Dennis, > > > >Hmmmmm, it just occurred to me - this might be why I'm seeing fewer > >messages from previously active message boards. > > > >Dennis Ahern wrote: > >> > >> I've just about had it with the ads that keep coming up when I check the > >> Message Boards on Rootsweb. Now it's the Michelin Tire ad that opens up > >> in an under-window. The worst part of it is, killing the window sometimes > >> kills my mouse and I have to reboot my computer to recover. This seems to > >> happen if you interrupt javascript ads before they completely open. And > >> please, don't tell me to get a software download to block pop-under > >> windows. I think we should be doing something to stop this intrusion > >> rather than finding esoteric workarounds that will not be generaly known > >> to the average user. If I was just some clueless newbie coming on to the > >> Rootsweb message boards looking for an ancestor, I would now be getting > >> the distinct impression that this is a commercial website, rather than a > >> volunteer effort. > > > >Susan > >-- > >Home Page of Susan Carter White Pieroth ~ > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/ > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Same here , and the other thing that really gets me is to get a email that says its from rootsweb only to find its Spam from ancestry.com Belle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bird" <bird@glasgow-ky.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Stinking Ads on Rootsweb > The solution for me is not to use the message boards. I run over 20 of them > and I do take care of them properly but I don't use them. When I see a > gatewayed post from a message board that I want to answer I go private to > that person who sent it. After all, all I have to do is hit reply <G> It > only took about two times for an ad to obscure what I was trying to read > before it got old. I have no patience and a bad temper. and I can not be > pushed. Mary Harkey Russell > bird@glasgow-ky.com > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

One solution: If you host the website that links to the Ancestry.com boards, put a note on your page instructing your visitors to disable javascript before they go to the boards. For newbies, you can create a page showing them step-by-step with screenshots how to disable js for Netscape & IE. That way they don't have to deal with the pop-ups. Oh, & BTW, I went to check something on the FREE section of Ancestry.com, and though their Privacy Policy states that you don't have to give ANY personal information to use the FREE sections on the site, you do have to. One of the things they want is your email addy so they can spam you. Michelle On Monday 25 March 2002 12:46, Dennis Ahern wrote: > I've just about had it with the ads that keep coming up when I > check the Message Boards on Rootsweb. Now it's the Michelin Tire > ad that opens up in an under-window. The worst part of it is, > killing the window sometimes kills my mouse and I have to reboot > my computer to recover. This seems to happen if you interrupt > javascript ads before they completely open. And please, don't > tell me to get a software download to block pop-under windows. I > think we should be doing something to stop this intrusion rather > than finding esoteric workarounds that will not be generaly known > to the average user. If I was just some clueless newbie coming > on to the Rootsweb message boards looking for an ancestor, I > would now be getting the distinct impression that this is a > commercial website, rather than a volunteer effort. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy > Website Acton, Massachusetts | > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

At 12:12 AM 03/26/2002 -0800, Lisa Perkins wrote: >Thanks for the reply, Elsi. > >I think I am beginning to understand.... > >Can I format the INPUT_FORM section of my template so that it goes back to my >html form (i.e. tell "it" where it is?) If so, can you give me a sample format >for writing this? > >If I can't get it to point back to my html form, (and in order to get the >mailmerge to work smoothly I must include my input form coding solely in my >template,) can I format my template document to have the same background as >the rest of my web pages? Unfortunately, the answers are No and No. The INPUT_FORM= section may only contain the stuff between the <.form> and <./form> tags. Therefore you can't dictate background or other formatting. You could put the whole thing in a framed document which might be a more appealing presentation. In fact, I set up a MailMerge in a frame where the response page generated from the MailMerge script winds up in a frame that's only one pixel large -- effectively hiding it. I'll look up my example and post more information tomorrow. For now, it's been a long night & I'm off to bed. Night all. Elsi

Thanks for the reply, Elsi. I think I am beginning to understand.... Can I format the INPUT_FORM section of my template so that it goes back to my html form (i.e. tell "it" where it is?) If so, can you give me a sample format for writing this? If I can't get it to point back to my html form, (and in order to get the mailmerge to work smoothly I must include my input form coding solely in my template,) can I format my template document to have the same background as the rest of my web pages? Lisa Perkins l.a.perkins@attbi.com Lisa Perkins Elsi wrote: > At 04:59 PM 03/25/2002 -0800, Lisa Perkins wrote: > >Hi, > >I am setting up a data submission form using the mailmerge cgi script > >suggested by rootsweb. After the data is > >submitted, a screen appears saying the message has been sent with a > >link that says "back to form". Pressing "back to > >form" brings me to an unknown form that has nothing to do with my web > >page. Is there a different way that I should > >be setting up my mail merge? I would like this link to link back to my > >own form, or not have this link at all, if > >that is not possible. > > The 'back to form' link leads to the INPUT_FORM= section of your template. > If you didn't use this section of your template, then MailMerge creates an > input form for you on the fly. What it doesn't do is go back to your > original form -- it really doesn't know where that was. > > Regards, > Elsi

That's not the point. I have popup killer too, I very rarely see a popup, and when I do, it's not there very long. I'm concerned for those newbies who don't, or the not-so-newbies who don't know about the popup killer. Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Stinking Ads on Rootsweb > if you dont have popup killer, then you will always have problems > with them. > > My popup killers zap them before I even see them. > > David > > JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/25/02 7:11:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > Leonard@Neb.rr.com writes: > > > > > I just went to one of my "rw" boards (with IE and Netscape)... > > > ...no pop-ups. > > > > > > I then went to the "an" version...got the Michelin pop-up (with IE + NS). > > > > > Michael- > > > > That might have been a matter of timing. The pop-ups only come up every so > > often. > > > > Joan > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Well, cheer up, guys, our boards are about to get active again. GenForum is now requiring registration before they let you post. Their registration includes you snail-mail addy. Lots of people are jumping ship and heading back to Ancestry. I DESPERATELY wish I could get a preview instead of just that measly little "There's a New Message" nonsense. Logging off from this computer, booting the other one, logging on from there, going to the board and finding "Great! Thanks, Sally! Love, Angie" isn't my idea of the way to use a quarter hour. Cheryl At 02:57 PM 03/25/2002 -0500, Susan W Pieroth wrote: >Dennis, > >Hmmmmm, it just occurred to me - this might be why I'm seeing fewer >messages from previously active message boards. > >Dennis Ahern wrote: >> >> I've just about had it with the ads that keep coming up when I check the >> Message Boards on Rootsweb. Now it's the Michelin Tire ad that opens up >> in an under-window. The worst part of it is, killing the window sometimes >> kills my mouse and I have to reboot my computer to recover. This seems to >> happen if you interrupt javascript ads before they completely open. And >> please, don't tell me to get a software download to block pop-under >> windows. I think we should be doing something to stop this intrusion >> rather than finding esoteric workarounds that will not be generaly known >> to the average user. If I was just some clueless newbie coming on to the >> Rootsweb message boards looking for an ancestor, I would now be getting >> the distinct impression that this is a commercial website, rather than a >> volunteer effort. > >Susan >-- >Home Page of Susan Carter White Pieroth ~ >http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/ > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

are you saying, Genforum is now requiring the street/PO Box address before posting???? David Samuelsen singhals wrote: > > Well, cheer up, guys, our boards are about to get active again. GenForum > is now requiring registration before they let you post. Their registration > includes you snail-mail addy. Lots of people are jumping ship and heading > back to Ancestry. > > I DESPERATELY wish I could get a preview instead of just that measly little > "There's a New Message" nonsense. Logging off from this computer, booting > the other one, logging on from there, going to the board and finding > "Great! Thanks, Sally! Love, Angie" isn't my idea of the way to use a > quarter hour. > > Cheryl > > At 02:57 PM 03/25/2002 -0500, Susan W Pieroth wrote: > >Dennis, > > > >Hmmmmm, it just occurred to me - this might be why I'm seeing fewer > >messages from previously active message boards. > > > >Dennis Ahern wrote: > >> > >> I've just about had it with the ads that keep coming up when I check the > >> Message Boards on Rootsweb. Now it's the Michelin Tire ad that opens up > >> in an under-window. The worst part of it is, killing the window sometimes > >> kills my mouse and I have to reboot my computer to recover. This seems to > >> happen if you interrupt javascript ads before they completely open. And > >> please, don't tell me to get a software download to block pop-under > >> windows. I think we should be doing something to stop this intrusion > >> rather than finding esoteric workarounds that will not be generaly known > >> to the average user. If I was just some clueless newbie coming on to the > >> Rootsweb message boards looking for an ancestor, I would now be getting > >> the distinct impression that this is a commercial website, rather than a > >> volunteer effort. > > > >Susan > >-- > >Home Page of Susan Carter White Pieroth ~ > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/ > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The solution for me is not to use the message boards. I run over 20 of them and I do take care of them properly but I don't use them. When I see a gatewayed post from a message board that I want to answer I go private to that person who sent it. After all, all I have to do is hit reply <G> It only took about two times for an ad to obscure what I was trying to read before it got old. I have no patience and a bad temper. and I can not be pushed. Mary Harkey Russell bird@glasgow-ky.com

I, too, am bombarded with popups and have found AdSubtract freeware very helpful. Of course it sound like a machine gun at times. AdSubtract is available at www.AdSubtract.com Robert H. Goss VTGenWeb - Caledonia County - Barnet, Sutton & Waterford Town Volunteer. http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtcbarne http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/g/o/s/Robert-H-Goss All incoming and outgoing e-mail is passed through the most recent Norton Antivirus definitions to assure viruses are not passed.

At 04:59 PM 03/25/2002 -0800, Lisa Perkins wrote: >Hi, >I am setting up a data submission form using the mailmerge cgi script >suggested by rootsweb. After the data is >submitted, a screen appears saying the message has been sent with a >link that says "back to form". Pressing "back to >form" brings me to an unknown form that has nothing to do with my web >page. Is there a different way that I should >be setting up my mail merge? I would like this link to link back to my >own form, or not have this link at all, if >that is not possible. The 'back to form' link leads to the INPUT_FORM= section of your template. If you didn't use this section of your template, then MailMerge creates an input form for you on the fly. What it doesn't do is go back to your original form -- it really doesn't know where that was. Regards, Elsi

In a message dated 3/25/02 7:11:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, Leonard@Neb.rr.com writes: > I just went to one of my "rw" boards (with IE and Netscape)... > ...no pop-ups. > > I then went to the "an" version...got the Michelin pop-up (with IE + NS). > Michael- That might have been a matter of timing. The pop-ups only come up every so often. Joan

Website: Hatcher Families Resource Center http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher List Admin: Hatcher email list Researching: Cook, Hall, Hatcher, Kuhns, Miller, Shepherd, Timberman The HATCHER BOOKS are now available - Edward, Henry, and Benjamin For more info: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatchlib.htm "Genealogy Without Documentation is Mythology" Cheryl and all, I also get notice of new msgs on Genforum and got that "you must register" crap. Bull-pucky! I spend half my life deleting and blocking spam msgs every day. I avoided registering by clicking on the sender's email and posting my response directly to him/her. Most of you have been complaining about the ads on the Msg Boards. I am finding that I am getting full (I repeat - FULL) screen popups on Worldconnect. These in-your-face ads do get my dander up! I have Caller-ID to block unwanted telemarketers and I see these ads in the same light....unwanted and ignored! I realize that Rootsweb needs to be supported by income, but I can guarantee you and the Advertising Dept at Rootweb/Ancestry that in no way would I ever respond to one of these popup ads. The annoyance factor causes me to delete them without reading/viewing who they are from. Nel

One idea to help with uploading data to these boards is to do all your typing off-line and cut and paste. Wouldn't help with those ads, but it sure beats typing them several times to get them where you want them to be. I like it as I can proof better off line than in their "view" screen. I too would rather have stationary banners than those pop ups. (Beginning to come from other sources, via my e-mail - some you don't want to look at.) These type ads really turn me off. I would NEVER buy a product advertised that way. Cleadie B. "B. Warner" wrote: > > Dennis, > I know exactly how you feel. I post lots of obits and other data. I can't > begin to count the times that I've just been typing along and all of a > sudden my screen will freeze and I wonder what's going on until one of those > intrusive pop-up adds appear. The Intel one, in particular, used to get > me all the time. There were even times that I had to reboot and then retype > everything I'd typed before the ad caused my screen to freeze up. I would > just absolutely go ballistic! In my opinion this "in your face" style of > advertising is worthless. I know it has the opposite effect on me - they're > the last company I'd buy anything from! I have no problem with advertising > because I know it takes money to keep the sites online, but there has to be > a way to do it (such as banners) that doesn't drive visitors away or > harass the volunteers whose efforts it takes to make the site a success. It > might be a little different if RootsWeb wasn't a research orientated site, > but it is. Researchers are the last people that want to be disturbed when > they're trying to concentrate on their work. I know when I'm researching > I'm not about to drop everything and go buy tires! > B. Warner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:46 PM > Subject: [RW-Help] Stinking Ads on Rootsweb > > > > > I've just about had it with the ads that keep coming up when I check the > > Message Boards on Rootsweb. Now it's the Michelin Tire ad that opens up > > in an under-window. The worst part of it is, killing the window sometimes > > kills my mouse and I have to reboot my computer to recover. This seems to > > happen if you interrupt javascript ads before they completely open. And > > please, don't tell me to get a software download to block pop-under > > windows. I think we should be doing something to stop this intrusion > > rather than finding esoteric workarounds that will not be generaly known > > to the average user. If I was just some clueless newbie coming on to the > > Rootsweb message boards looking for an ancestor, I would now be getting > > the distinct impression that this is a commercial website, rather than a > > volunteer effort. > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website > > Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

That may be true. However, it doesn't help all those newbies out there who are just starting their research and are being driven back and out by 'in your face' intrusive advertising. They, as a lot of us here and now, never had the opportunity to contribute financially; and I can't see that this type of advertising is going to encourage anyone to do so even if they could. After a couple of pop-ups they're gone, probably for good. I know, I know, we've been on this merry-go-round before, but can't banner ads be used or something else? Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna O. Jackson" <aojackson@vci.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:47 PM Subject: [RW-Help] Stinking Ads on Rootsweb > Don't we wish more of us had contributed financially to Rootsweb while > they were a "free" entity. But, hindsight, although very good, aids > nothing in this situation! > > Anna O. Jackson God Bless America > Giles County Mail List Administrator > CC Giles County, TN http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/

Have basic question... In the link your going to...the "&r=" parameter does it equal "an" for Ancestry version of the message board or equals "rw" for the Rootsweb version??? I just went to one of my "rw" boards (with IE and Netscape)... ...no pop-ups. I then went to the "an" version...got the Michelin pop-up (with IE + NS). http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.marini http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=surnames.marini *