Relative addressing can also refer to levels above. Say you had the following: public_html sub - images sub - cemeteries sub - churches If you were doing a page in the cemeteries folder and wanted to refer to an image in the images folder, the link would look like this: a href="../images/headstone01.gif" The double dot refers to the next folder above the one the page is in. You can do this for as many levels as you like. John In loving memory of our son, Brennan. 11/10/88-5/31/01. http://John.EssexCountyMA.net/Brennan Massachusetts Vital Records Project Administrator - http://MA-VitalRecords.org USGenWeb County Coordinator Essex County, MA - http://EssexCountyMA.net USGenWeb Town Coordinator Ipswich, Essex, MA - http://Ipswich.EssexCountyMA.net > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] page header missing > From: Pat Asher <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, April 01, 2008 8:01 am > To: [email protected] > At 11:44 PM 3/31/2008, Tim Stowell wrote: > > >My includes and Mailmerge forms continue to work because I have used > > >relative instead of absolute links. > > > > >Pat > > > >Pat, > > > >Would you please give an example of what you mean? > Hi Tim, > Relative links start from where you are, and include only the > information necessary to find the page relative to your (the > browser's) current location, e.g. from your web account index page, > you might link to > a href="images/image01.jpg" > where images is a subdirectory in your account. > An absolute link contains the entire address so the page can be found > anywhere on the web, e.g. > a href="http://your_web_host.com/your_account_name/images/image01.jpg" > See http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/links.htm > Pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, Please give an example of correct use of includes - maybe an web page of instruction At 08:23 AM 3/31/2008, you wrote: >At 09:13 AM 3/31/2008, you wrote: > > >My question is why the text of an included header is missing on > >Rootsweb.Ancestry page of cemeteries. > > > > > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~okdewey/cem/vassar/index.html > > > >The header includes the text > >"This information is available free. If you paid money for a > >subscription to get to this site, demand a refund." > > > >The text is on the header uploaded. It doesn't appear on the > >page. The text USED TO APPEAR when it was on www.rootsweb.comJust > >looking at your code, there are a lot of coding errors - > > >You have a couple of doctype statements, a couple of head sections, >etc. That may be caused by the way you have inserted your ssi's if >that is what you are using. > >pat > > > >---------- >Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage >We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ > >Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials >http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ >http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/ - Blog > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you have serious problems with your web site due to URL changes a great links checker is Xenu. It's free and fast. http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html It will give you a list of all the URLs on your site, email addresses and how often they appear and what level, images and sizes, even orphan files. The broken link report has several options among which are - broken links by link, by page, broken local links, list of redirected URLs. If you need your HTML validated - http://validator.aborla.net/ gives you the location of the error and seemingly more explanation of the problem. If you need to make many changes fast try NoteTab Light - http://www.notetab.com - also free. Hope this helps. Tim Stowell

Tim- I can't promise you one way or the other what the staffer in charge of assigning/approving accounts will do other than to say that in the past such account names (URLs) were reassigned and most likely this is what will happen in the future. It doesn't mean anyone would be denied a new account--just that they would be assigned whatever URL is available when having a new account approved for a given locality or topic. As far as I know--about your having found redirects that lead off RootsWeb with no content on the RootsWeb sites--I believe it is an on-going process to locate, report, and handle these cases. I'm certainly no expert on how redirects are established--I just know they are against RootsWeb's policy -- at least some of the site content needs to be housed on the RootsWeb site in order for an account to meet the requirements to maintain a website at RootsWeb. Joan -------------------------- So Joan, if a site has been gone a year or two ie, if one looks for state xx, county yyyyyy and doesn't see it and one requested a site for xxyyyyyy would one likely get that URL or would it be the next available one as in xxyyyyy3? I'm not sure how to go back to earlier dates in the What's new section but a couple of days ago, I thought I saw a blurb there about a new website. When I clicked on it, I got a page that says this site has moved and shortly the page redirected me to a URL off Rootsweb. I'm not sure what it is that makes the page jump to the other URL for looking at the source for the page the only thing I can think of that might do such is the Stylesheet? or is there something else that makes that happen? Jim Rickenbacker mentioned this the other day - <meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="0;url=[the new page URL]"> to automatically redirect a browser to a new URL. - I thought all Meta tags did was to give information to search engines. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Message: 2 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:36:09 +0200 From: "Hugh Watkins" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Questions about RW/URL change <big snip> >my point being that any major site like RW is an asset which will be >preserved even if a change of ownership occurs >TGN's problem is market saturation in USA and increasing competition >for the same users in USA and UK >so their advertising budget is greatly increased >aol.com (bring your own connection is now a freebie) >and google.com are doing very well on advertising alone >US Geneweb does not yet have a clearly defined business plan (URL if so?) >it must become a tax deductable foundation Why? Would it becoming such suddenly make the unethical ethical? > http://www.usgennet.org/ is much better organised >eg see >USGenNet Corporate Records > USGenNet's Policies, Conditions of Use, Financial Records, and >Corporation Documents >good luck to the US Geneweb >regards >Hugh W Tim Stowell

I find an account suspended link about once a week out of google (so I grab the cache) Hugh W On 01/04/2008, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > John- > > I agree completely BUT...if I had a dime for every time over the years that > a terrified webmaster stormed into RootsWeb's IRC desperately hoping that > RootsWeb could "save" them from the disaster of having accidentally deleted ALL > of their webpages (including USGW CCs) I'd be wealthy! Accidents can and do > happen--frequently. > > Joan > --------------------------- > > > John wrote: > > Backups? Anyone would be crazy to solely rely on the host. > > > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Tim, You may subscribe in list mode to this list as any other RW list. Just send your subscribe command to [email protected] Sharon Dulcich ----------------- In a message dated 3/31/2008 8:34:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Does this list only come in Digest format? Can one be subscribed to this list like other lists in single message format? Tim Stowell **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

>the yahoo groups / boards / lists has better technology than RW >but the big disadvantage if a lone admin dies they do not appoint a replacement >Hugh W Please. Yahoo groups stink. They are nearly impossible to get into, manage, always asking folks to sign up for this and that, way too many hoops to jump through. No thanks. RW lists do it much better. Tim Stowell

>Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:07:33 -0400 >From: Pat Asher <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] page header missing >To: [email protected] >At 09:21 AM 3/31/2008, Sherri wrote: >>The problem is because of the URL change from rootsweb.com to >>rootsweb.ancestry.com. This change (URL) has broken everyone's includes and >>mail merge forms. >My includes and Mailmerge forms continue to work because I have used >relative instead of absolute links. >Pat Pat, Would you please give an example of what you mean? Thanks, Tim

>Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:50:32 EDT >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] URLs >To: [email protected] >Linda- >This would seem to be a violation of RootsWeb's rules--because you would >merely be providing a redirect to a site OFF RootsWeb where your page content is >stored. Eventually, this will be caught and the redirects deleted by >RootsWeb. >To answer Tim's question, RootsWeb would allow some time in case the account >holder wishes to return or changes their minds but, in time--maybe a few >weeks or months--the URLs would be available to anyone who wishes to create a >county, state, etc. website at RootsWeb either as a private site or one >connected to a different project. From what I've seen thus far, there are people >waiting to grab those URLs and put them to good use. >Joan ======================= So Joan, if a site has been gone a year or two ie, if one looks for state xx, county yyyyyy and doesn't see it and one requested a site for xxyyyyyy would one likely get that URL or would it be the next available one as in xxyyyyy3? I'm not sure how to go back to earlier dates in the What's new section but a couple of days ago, I thought I saw a blurb there about a new website. When I clicked on it, I got a page that says this site has moved and shortly the page redirected me to a URL off Rootsweb. I'm not sure what it is that makes the page jump to the other URL for looking at the source for the page the only thing I can think of that might do such is the Stylesheet? or is there something else that makes that happen? Jim Rickenbacker mentioned this the other day - <meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="0;url=[the new page URL]"> to automatically redirect a browser to a new URL. - I thought all Meta tags did was to give information to search engines. Tim

Does this list only come in Digest format? Can one be subscribed to this list like other lists in single message format? Tim Stowell

if you write bad html you can defeat the banners as my friend did by accident http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hedvig/en/index.html now fixed Huh W On 31/03/2008, Susan W Pieroth <[email protected]> wrote: > I just noticed something interesting with these three links. Using > Firefox I see a RootsWeb favicon.ico even though it's not in the coding. > Is this new, or did I just not notice it before? On my > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~scwhite/ pages I have my own > favicon.ico and that apparently takes precedence. > > Answered my own question. My USGenWeb site > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~palackaw/ now has the RootsWeb > favicon.ico and it didn't before. > > Hugh Watkins wrote: > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nrthamgw/ > > > > it looks like you guys already made the break > > > > and I don't see any banners here > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~engwgw/ > > or here > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dnkcen/index.html > > > > so I think the reports are exagerated and have been used as an excuse > > for empire building by your senior adminstrators with a chip on their > > shoulders about TGN > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Our own death is the only certainty in life luckily we are unlikely to know when and how Hugh W On 31/03/2008, gen-quest <[email protected]> wrote: > The main drawback of hosting genealogical web sites on "private" web sites > is that once the person who is paying for the site stops paying (for > whatever reason) the web site is taken down by the ISP and disappears. > > At least, by having my information on Rootsweb sites, I know that my hard > work will be available for researchers in the future, if for some reason I > am not. > > Karima > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

On 31/03/2008, Gloria Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > Just thought I'd mention - Buying hosting for a web site is really > awfully cheap - not a 'pay and pay' thing. Maybe $5-10 per month, or > less in many cases, sometimes free. And getting 'easier and easier' to > do. So that really has nothing to do with this issue. oh yes it does if your site gets more traffic than the agreed monthly allowance it will be taken offline until you pay an increased fee just a mention in a blog or on a board can be enough to cause this of course you can do fancy stuff server side but I take long term view of the preservation of records If TGN failed - RW would be a saleable asset in UK a TV company owns this census site http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ it was purchased by http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/ which started as a daughter of http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/ (which made a housewife a millionaire) >> The idea behind Friends Reunited was concocted back in July 1999 in Steve and Julie Pankhurst's suburban semi in Barnet, North London . Julie was pregnant and whilst some women crave honey and marmite sandwiches, she was curious about what her old school friends were up to. Did they all have families of their own? Did they still live in the same area? Were they married, divorced, still alive?! At the same time Steve, along with his business partner, Jason, was looking at original ideas to develop for the internet. They realised that the internet was an ideal medium to get back in touch with old friends. << Tuesday, 6 December 2005, 11:34 GMT ITV buys Friends Reunited website Jeff Henry, (left) of ITV's Consumer Division and Friends Reunited chief executive Michael Murphy (right) ITV hopes the deal will boost its online presence Broadcaster ITV has agreed to buy Friends Reunited, the website which has 15 million users and brings together old school friends, for £120m ($208m). The website has the UK's eighth-largest online presence - and profits have risen since the firm expanded to offer genealogy and internet dating services. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4502550.stm ITV said it would pay an extra sum of up to £55m in 2009, according to Friends Reunited's performance. The deal will allow ITV to "strengthen significantly" its online presence. << but you can not see that on the site itself my point being that any major site like RW is an asset which will be preserved even if a change of ownership occurs TGN's problem is market saturation in USA and increasing competition for the same users in USA and UK so their advertising budget is greatly increased aol.com (bring your own connection is now a freebie) and google.com are doing very well on advertising alone US Geneweb does not yet have a clearly defined business plan (URL if so?) it must become a tax deductable foundation http://www.usgennet.org/ is much better organised eg see USGenNet Corporate Records USGenNet's Policies, Conditions of Use, Financial Records, and Corporation Documents good luck to the US Geneweb regards Hugh W

and http://www.worldgenweb.org/ ?? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nrthamgw/ it looks like you guys already made the break and I don't see any banners here http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~engwgw/ or here http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dnkcen/index.html so I think the reports are exagerated and have been used as an excuse for empire building by your senior adminstrators with a chip on their shoulders about TGN too bad the yahoo groups / boards / lists has better technology than RW but the big disadvantage if a lone admin dies they do not appoint a replacement Hugh W On 31/03/2008, Derick Hartshorn <[email protected]> wrote: > Folks, > > Like many of you, I have been in the USGenWeb Project since the git-go. > I have used RW servers since they first offered to house my sites. > I am extremely grateful to RootsWeb for these ten years of free hosting. > But lets not confuse RootsWeb with those who have a commercial > interest and who have been picking up the tab for server space. > Basically, there is "no such thing as a free lunch." Somebody has to > pay the bills. > TGN, in an attempt to promote Ancestry.com decided to add banners to > our pages without any discussion. The way they went about it has been > the point of contention. > Panic ensued and many folks could actually see the sky falling. > Whether or not our pages (and lists) were going to be cached became a > moot point. > Folks who had accurately predicted the end of the free lunch > blistered the rest of us with their "I told you so" reminders. > > I hope this will not only answer Judy's questions but be edifying to all. > First off, please refer to the history of how RootsWeb originated and > learn where we are coming from. > See: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~socgen/history.html > > > > >1. Will TGN "own" "my" stuff? Will my genie info on county sites still be > >"mine" (and my submitters), or will TGN "sell" my stuff? Will they put it > >into any pay subscription or product? > > > Not as long as the US Copyright laws are in effect. As far as caching > your material, I would be interested in knowing how they can use it > WITHOUT linking it to one of their RW sites. Of course, even if you > have a new (non-RW) site, there is no guaranteed way to prevent > linking. That's the same as citing a source (almost). > The question everyone is asking: > > > >2. Will TGN "index" my stuff or do I leave the on-site search boxes. If TGN > >indexes, what are the pros and cons? If I later move from RW, will "my" > >indexed info (if they do it) drop off their index eventually? > > > TGN has probably already indexed your material--they won't say. That > involves a tricky interpretation of copyright laws and how they use > your information, if indeed, they do. You are free to remove your > material from their servers which should effectively end their shared > interest in it. If you have no connection with their server, they > would have a difficult time justifying their use of your material. > Don't be surprised that if you are removing your county site that > they don't put it up for adoption. > > > >3. RW has always been "easy" (well, relatively), so how do I pick another > >host IF I ever wanted to do that? I tried once before to pick a pay site > >for a personal web, but it got too confusing reading each host's info. > > > You either need to have the ability to finance your own server or > work within your own state Project to obtain one. > The NCGenWeb Project has a benefactor who has established a trust to > finance a server for the Project in perpetuity. > See: http://www.ncgenweb.us/ > > > >4. I'm still confused about the headers. What do I need to do? > > > Nothing. If they haven't appeared there yet, they will. > Your URL will also be renamed, if it hasn't already. The new address > is already appearing as http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/xxx > > Bottom line: Nobody can blame TGN for trying to enhance their > commercial presence on the web. While they may have used a ham-handed > approach in doing so, that is their right. They have been paying the > server bills and we were suddenly faced with either accepting their > banners or moving out. They may or may not have posed a threat to the > exclusive right to our intellectual creations. As for me, I have > always believed in FREE GENEALOGY, with no strings attached. The last > thing I want to see is the USGWP become a fragmented entity. The > USGWP Board has made some bold moves and is headed in the right > direction. My personal belief is that the national organization and > each state entity would be best served by incorporating as a 401 > (c)(3) or 501 (c)(3). I believe we will come out of this stronger than before. > > Derick S. Hartshorn, County Coordinator, > Catawba-Burke-Lincoln-Gaston-Cleveland, NC > NCGenWeb.us Project >

John- I agree completely BUT...if I had a dime for every time over the years that a terrified webmaster stormed into RootsWeb's IRC desperately hoping that RootsWeb could "save" them from the disaster of having accidentally deleted ALL of their webpages (including USGW CCs) I'd be wealthy! Accidents can and do happen--frequently. Joan --------------------------- John wrote: Backups? Anyone would be crazy to solely rely on the host. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Derick Hartshorn wrote: >>Didn't B&K spend the effort one time trying to get 501(c)3 >>status? It's not nearly as easy or as inexpensive as it sounds. > > > NOT TRUE! Which part? The didn't B&K spend part or the it's not as easy part? Cheryl -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

If it is not broken don't fix it :-) http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~okgenweb/ has moved so they have to raise funds to pay and pay and pay if they don't their ISP will take the site off line and delete it I believe that the ancestry GSU conflict started when the CEO of TGN wanted have a formal agreement in place for accounts of the Family History Libraries instead of an unwritten agreement for free access - more panic occured after a now discontinued search engine sought to index all trees and naive people thought their data had been stolen. In UK ante USA resentments surfaced "they have stolen our census" simply not true - we pay for an index and copies on a remote server and the convenience of home use - the census is still gratis to use at our National Archives (pay for print outs) Hugh W On 31/03/2008, Judy Florian <[email protected]> wrote: > No, no problems so far. Just confused by all the uproar and everyone > "moving" and just want to make the right choices. > > > Judy > > > > On 3/30/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Judy- > > > > Read the RootsWeb AUP (click on the link at the bottom of any > > RootsWeb page) > > --note the section that explains the treatment of User Provided Content. > > That should answer your question #1. Also read the newsroom > > announcements that > > I linked to in my previous post--which clearly explains that RootsWeb will > > continue to be a free service as always (your webpage content is not > > suddenly > > going to become a part of any subscription service). I think this is the > > best > > way for you to answer your own questions rather than listening to what > > anyone > > interprets policy to be for you. > > > > RootsWeb's newly redesigned Search Thingy search engine will index the > > data > > on your site and other privately owned websites at RootsWeb just as > > Google > > and any other search engine would do. There is no change is > > your capability of > > having a site search engine on your page as well. > > > > RootsWeb's AUP assures us all that our copyright and ownership of any > > original content on our websites will be honored. RootsWeb serves as the > > host of > > the content for as long as you decide to house the content at RootsWeb. > > You > > grant RootsWeb a limited license to distribute and house the data while > > your > > pages reside on RootsWeb's servers. Of course, neither we nor > > RootsWeb/TGN can > > copyright or own facts. We can only copyright our original content and > > page > > design and graphics we create. > > > > You shouldn't need to do anything about the new banners/headers. That > > is all > > handled by RootsWeb and seems to work pretty transparently--at least it > > has > > on all the pages I've seen. Are you having a problem with them? > > > > Joan > > ---------------------------- > > > > > > 1. Will TGN "own" "my" stuff? Will my genie info on county sites still > > be > > "mine" (and my submitters), or will TGN "sell" my stuff? Will they put > > it > > into any pay subscription or product? > > > > 2. Will TGN "index" my stuff or do I leave the on-site search > > boxes. If TGN > > indexes, what are the pros and cons? If I later move from RW, will "my" > > indexed info (if they do it) drop off their index eventually? > > > > 3. RW has always been "easy" (well, relatively), so how do I pick another > > host IF I ever wanted to do that? I tried once before to pick a pay site > > for a personal web, but it got too confusing reading each host's info. > > > > 4. I'm still confused about the headers. What do I need to do? > > > > Thanks for clarifying, > > > > Judy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~okdewey/style.css http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~okdewey/itok.ico I cannot see any link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~itgenweb/ has source <font face="Verdana" size="1">(This information is available <b>free</b>. If you paid money for a subscription to get to this site, demand a refund)</font></td> </tr> looks like you left it out when you updated your page Hugh W On 31/03/2008, Susan Bradford <[email protected]> wrote: > > My question is why the text of an included header is missing on > Rootsweb.Ancestry page of cemeteries. > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~okdewey/cem/vassar/index.html > > The header includes the text > "This information is available free. If you paid money for a > subscription to get to this site, demand a refund." > > The text is on the header uploaded. It doesn't appear on the > page. The text USED TO APPEAR when it was on www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

I promote ancestry because I use it nearly every day since ancestry.co.uk came on line see also "The two keynote speeches at this year's BYU Computerized Family History Conference gave attendees the unique opportunity of seeing two of Ancestry.com's CEOs side by side. Paul Allen was Ancestry's first CEO and Tim Sullivan is the current CEO of Ancestry's parent company, the Generations Network (TGN)" http://paf-lug.blogspot.com/2008/03/two-ancestry-presidents-contrasted.htm "How do commercial players advance genealogy?" asked Sullivan rhetorically. "Very simply; by spending lots of money." Sullivan said TGN invests over $100 million a year providing services and growing the number of people involved in genealogy. Commercial players help get original records digitized and online according to Sullivan. At current rates, it will take over 2,000 years to digitize all of NARA's holdings. (The New York Times) Records throughout the world are perishing. In the past 10 years TGN has spent, not counting indirect costs, almost $70 million acquiring, imaging and indexing content and continues to spend over $10 million annually. Sullivan said that TGN will spend over $40 million in 2008 around the world trying to get more people involved in genealogy. More people not only means more revenues for commercial companies, it means more collaboration, more user-uploaded content and more indexing volunteers. Anticipating the question, Sullivan pledged to keep RootsWeb free despite inclusion of ancestry.com in RootsWeb's domain name. Asked about full availability of Ancestry in Family History Centers (FHCs), Sullivan noted availability in the regional FHCs and acknowledged ongoing discussions. "I hope we can get it available again." "We think what FamilySearch has done is fantastic," Sullivan said in response to a question about his company's recent volunteer indexing announcement. He didn't add any details beyond those in the short announcement. << http://www.linkpendium.com/about-us.html Linkpendium is being developed by Karen Isaacson and Brian Leverich, founders of the extremely popular RootsWeb genealogical community site. At the time of its merger with Ancestry in June 2000, RootsWeb had about 600,000 registered users, was serving about 100,000,000 Web page views monthly, and was delivering about 160,000,000 pieces of email monthly to the subscribers of its 18,000 mailing lists. The company had more than 40 employees and operated its own 7,000 square foot network operations center in Bakersfield, CA. insteaed of turning RW into a charitable trust they sold it Hugh W On 31/03/2008, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Linda- > > Not that it is particularly relevant to the discussion at hand because what > I've written is based upon the official announcements made by TGN and not to > my own "guesses," opinions or crystal ball...but I was on RootsWeb staff > before the sale in 2000 and was on staff for one year after the sale until July > 2001. > > My only current connection to RootsWeb is in writing occasional articles on > Using RootsWeb for the RootsWeb Review...which requires only my knowledge of > how the various programs and features at RootsWeb function. I must say > though...I wouldn't have anything to write about if RootsWeb truly didn't "exist" > as some would suggest. <g> > > My comments were not a "defense" of Ancestry--but rather a reference to the > official statements to which I provided a link in my previous reply. Anything > stated above and beyond the official announcements by those who would have us > believe otherwise, is purely rumor and innuendo--unless, of course, the > naysayers can point to something official to support their prophesies of doom > and gloom. > > Joan > ----------------------------------------- > > > I'm not riding a horse for either side, but after reading your impassioned > defense of Ancestry, I would like to know the answer to one question. It > would help us all know what biases you may have, because I'd sure like to be > able believe all that you are saying. > > Are you now, or have you been in the past, an employee of Ancestry or their > parent company? If so, in what capacity. > > Linda > > > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG