Yes, have updated both websites. Tried several times, to index, to NO avail. Before the 'change", they indexed with NO problems. kk -------------- Original message from "Hugh Watkins" <[email protected]>: -------------- > have you updated freefind controls with the new subdomain URL ? > > Hugh W > > On 11/04/2008, kk wrote: > > Attempted to Index the two sites I maintain: > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mocharit/ and > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molinn/, as 'Tim" suggested. Received the same > > message as did Nan. Shall send an email to the contact listed at the bottom > > of the received message, under PS.... > > > > No pages on your site were indexed. > > > > This is usually for one of three reasons: > > > > a) you are indexing a password protected site > > and did not specify the correct authorization > > information > > > > (fix: log in to the Control Center, press the > > build index tab, click "password protected areas" > > enter your proper authorization information) > > > > b) your site was not on-line and > > operating when our spider visited > > > > (fix: get your site going and try again) > > > > c) an internet problem occurred somewhere > > between our server and your web site > > > > (fix: try again after a while) > > > > For a complete indexing log, login to your account at: > > > > http://www.freefind.com/control.html > > > > Press the "Reports" tab and click "View log list". > > > > Questions about what pages get indexed? > > Check the FreeFind help and faq at > > http://www.freefind.com/library > > > > Sincerely, > > Alan and Jim > > FreeFind.com > > > > P.S. If you have any problems with FreeFind, please contact us > > at: http://www.freefind.com/contact.html so that we can fix > > the problem! (Please be sure to check the library first at: > > http://www.freefind.com/library and include your URL, > > e-mail and site ID in your e-mail) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Stowell" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:04 AM > > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Free find problem > > > > > > > > > >> I have 2 sites, both using Free Find as search engine. One is > > >> , Jefferson County New York and the > > >> other is an ALHN site for the Town of Alexandria in Jefferson County: > > >> > > >> > > >> I received identical messages concerning both: > > >> > > >> "We were unable to read any pages when trying to index > > >> your site. This can occur if your server is not responding > > >> or if there is an internet problem between our servers and yours." > > >> > > >> Before I go chasing wild geese, can anyone tell me if this is a problem > > >> elsewhere? Does it have anything to do with the proposed move? > > >> > > >> Nan Dixon > > >> [email protected] > > > > > > Nan, > > > > > > You need to change the URL Free Find is seeking to index. > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycalexa/ should now be > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nycalexa/ > > > > > > and > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/ should be > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyjeffer/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- > > > Tim Stowell > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG. > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 > > > 7:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ > > http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks > > main blog GENEALOGE > http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another hit, this one more serious. My search engine (WhatUseek) would not re-crawl my site. It said there were zero pages. Others have reported similar experiences with other search engines. Here is what I had to do to fix it -- short of recompiling all my thousands of pages. 1. I changed the entry point known to the search engines to the new URL. Partial success: Only the entry page (index.html) was scanned. This was because the other links (with the old URL) looked like off-site links. 2. Added the entry point /old/ URL as a /secondary/ entry point. The search engine was then able to crawl the entire site and index all pages. 3. Changed my compile procedures to use the new URL. As pages get recompiled, the new URL will be used. I rarely recompile the whole site, but as pages get recompiled, the URL change will be made by attrition. -R. Rod Dav4is wrote: > Generally, this went pretty smoothly, I thought. > I did have to resubscribe to my RSS feed (RSS 2.0 XML, feeder: Firefox > SAGE). Changes were not being detected until I deleted the SAGE link and > resubscribed with the new URL. > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/ 502 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 122,600+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: [email protected] If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. -Mark Twain

At 11:37 AM 4/11/2008, kk wrote: >Attempted to Index the two sites I maintain: >www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mocharit/ and >www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molinn/, as 'Tim" suggested. Received the same >message as did Nan. Shall send an email to the contact listed at the bottom >of the received message, under PS.... Freefind, or somebody claiming to be Freefind was running some bots with suspicious IP addresses, i.e. ones that did not resolve to Freefind domains. It appears they may have some internal problems. Pat

Attempted to Index the two sites I maintain: www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mocharit/ and www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molinn/, as 'Tim" suggested. Received the same message as did Nan. Shall send an email to the contact listed at the bottom of the received message, under PS.... No pages on your site were indexed. This is usually for one of three reasons: a) you are indexing a password protected site and did not specify the correct authorization information (fix: log in to the Control Center, press the build index tab, click "password protected areas" enter your proper authorization information) b) your site was not on-line and operating when our spider visited (fix: get your site going and try again) c) an internet problem occurred somewhere between our server and your web site (fix: try again after a while) For a complete indexing log, login to your account at: http://www.freefind.com/control.html Press the "Reports" tab and click "View log list". Questions about what pages get indexed? Check the FreeFind help and faq at http://www.freefind.com/library Sincerely, Alan and Jim FreeFind.com P.S. If you have any problems with FreeFind, please contact us at: http://www.freefind.com/contact.html so that we can fix the problem! (Please be sure to check the library first at: http://www.freefind.com/library and include your URL, e-mail and site ID in your e-mail) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:04 AM Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Free find problem > >> I have 2 sites, both using Free Find as search engine. One is >> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/>, Jefferson County New York and the >> other is an ALHN site for the Town of Alexandria in Jefferson County: >> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycalexa/> >> >> I received identical messages concerning both: >> >> "We were unable to read any pages when trying to index >> your site. This can occur if your server is not responding >> or if there is an internet problem between our servers and yours." >> >> Before I go chasing wild geese, can anyone tell me if this is a problem >> elsewhere? Does it have anything to do with the proposed move? >> >> Nan Dixon >> [email protected] > > Nan, > > You need to change the URL Free Find is seeking to index. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycalexa/ should now be > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nycalexa/ > > and > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/ should be > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyjeffer/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- > Tim Stowell > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 > 7:30 AM > >

Did we pass the test? :-( David E. Cann [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Rickenbacker(3) Sent: Thursday, 10 April 2008 2:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Test Post Sorry, just trying to find out why my posts aren't posting. Jim Rickenbacker

Yes, we passed today :-)! Yesterday I had two posts and a note to the list admin go AWOL and was trying to find out if the posts were still going AWOL before pressing the matter further. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Cann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Test Post > Did we pass the test? :-( > > > David E. Cann > [email protected]

At 4/10/2008 03:01 AM, you wrote: >Ok Stupid here... >I use frontline 2000... I can code some minor stuff... if a PDF file >is not incorporated into the webpage how do you get it to upload to >the account? I looked at the coding it addresses the pdf file like >a picture format. it gives the address where it is <.A >HREF="SummerCourse.pdf"> then the words or graphic to click on to >access. but how did you physically get it in the website? Nelda, Just upload the PDF file the same way you would any other file. 1 picture = 1,000 words http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~flbgs/PDFNelda.gif I don't know how Frontline uploads pages, but you should get the general idea. Then you have to add an html page that includes a link to the pdf file. That was the BGS page link that I sent earlier. Clear as mud yet? <g> [email protected], Patrice

Sorry, just trying to find out why my posts aren't posting. Jim Rickenbacker

Hi, If I go to the file manager then into the folder I can then upload via the file manager upload the PDF File. BUT!.... I can not create a page and upload the pdf file into the front page software. So, there should be a way to create the page as in http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molcgdrg/facts/faq9.htm without having togo to the file manager. When you upload FP2000, you dial up, a ftp address and activate it. it uploads all componets of the webpages. because I can not locate how to get FP2000 to recognise a pdf file I can not up load it to the software... (I have tried the picture up load... because pdf is not a graphic identifier it does not see the pdf file.) I do not knowwhat else to try. Nelda Regards: Nelda Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:15:12 -0400> To: [email protected]> From: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Putting excell spread sheet on a web page> > At 4/10/2008 03:01 AM, you wrote:> >Ok Stupid here...> >I use frontline 2000... I can code some minor stuff... if a PDF file > >is not incorporated into the webpage how do you get it to upload to > >the account? I looked at the coding it addresses the pdf file like > >a picture format. it gives the address where it is <.A > >HREF="SummerCourse.pdf"> then the words or graphic to click on to > >access. but how did you physically get it in the website?> > Nelda,> > Just upload the PDF file the same way you would any other file. 1 > picture = 1,000 words> > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~flbgs/PDFNelda.gif> > I don't know how Frontline uploads pages, but you should get the > general idea. Then you have to add an html page that includes a link > to the pdf file. That was the BGS page link that I sent earlier.> > Clear as mud yet? <g>> > [email protected],> Patrice > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nalda, Create a folder within your website directory, call it pdfs or something and save the file (email attachment) to this folder. In the web page, create a hyperlink that 'points' to this saved pdf - in the same way you'd create a link to another page in your website. Save the page and upload both the page and the pdf file to the webserver. Example: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fleming/cityark.htm the hyperlinks here are to Excel pdfs. If you mouseover the 'Bredhurst marriages' link and the 'Page 1' link and near the bottom of your screen, you'll see how similar the full addresses are . :) Ruth http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fleming/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelda Percival" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Putting excell spread sheet on a web page > > Ok Stupid here... > I use frontline 2000... I can code some minor stuff... if a PDF file is > not incorporated into the webpage how do you get it to upload to the > account? I looked at the coding it addresses the pdf file like a picture > format. it gives the address where it is <.A HREF="SummerCourse.pdf"> then > the words or graphic to click on to access. but how did you physically get > it in the website? > > <.A HREF="SummerCourse.pdf">Adobe PDF version<./A> <.IMG > SRC="Resources/pdficon.gif" WIDTH="32" HEIGHT="32" ALIGN="MIDDLE" > BORDER="0" NATURALSIZEFLAG="3".>Regards: Nelda Percival > http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > Date: Wed, 9 > Apr 2008 15:42:32 -0400> To: [email protected]> From: > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Putting excell spread > sheet on a web page> > Nelda,> > There isn't any special coding. Just save > the document to pdf using > the program (Excel, Open Office or whatever). > Then upload the pdf > file to the site. Link to the pdf file from another > page. Here's > samples from the BGS > website: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~flbgs/meetings.html#education (I > don't > know why I added an HTML version also -- I must have had a good > reason > at the time. <grin>) and> > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~flbgs/meetings.html#join> > [email protected],> > Patrice> > At 4/9/2008 03:01 AM, Nelda Percival wrote:> >Hi,> >Thank you, > co! > uld you send me a url for one so I can see how the > >coding looks? I've > never coded for a pdf file.> >> >Nelda> >Regards: Nelda Percival > > >http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > From: > > >[email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 9 > >Apr > 2008 00:34:44 -0500> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Putting excell > >spread > sheet on a web page> > Absolutely! Some of the marriage > >records are > posted as PDF's.> >> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe > from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

In a message dated 10/04/2008 02:33:06 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi, You upload the file the same way you put an htm or html file up. You put a link from another page to it. on my site www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohcdrt on April 26 you will find a link to a pdf file. It is not a table, but the same structure is used. I am not sure how it would work to put a pdf file in the middle of an html file. Maybe it would be like putting a gif or jpg on a page. Perhaps someone would know if you can do it like an image. Cynthia A PDF file can be converted into a series of graphic pages, i.e. each PDF page becomes a JPEG graphic. Each JPEG graphic can be uploaded as you would with any photograph. The same site I mentioned earlier. _www.dgfhs.org.uk_ (http://www.dgfhs.org.uk) uses this method to give an example of our Society's Newsletter. Scroll the left navigation bar to Newsletter to see the result. Excel spreadsheets pages can also be converted into HTML pages. You can see an example of this by clicking the Pedigree Charts link on the same navigation bar as the Newsletter. This conversion process is rather tedious though, you simply have to change the dot.XLS extension to HTM and use a good text editor with the Find/Replace feature to strip out all the non-html code. Front Page can now read the files as table allowing you to add bg colour and lines to the table. Sandy in Dumfries Scotland

Hi, You upload the file the same way you put an htm or html file up. You put a link from another page to it. on my site www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohcdrt on April 26 you will find a link to a pdf file. It is not a table, but the same structure is used. I am not sure how it would work to put a pdf file in the middle of an html file. Maybe it would be like putting a gif or jpg on a page. Perhaps someone would know if you can do it like an image. Cynthia

Hi, Look: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molcgdrg/facts/faq9.htm The PDF file isn't showing. Will you check the coding? neldaRegards: Nelda Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/

Nelda, There isn't any special coding. Just save the document to pdf using the program (Excel, Open Office or whatever). Then upload the pdf file to the site. Link to the pdf file from another page. Here's samples from the BGS website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~flbgs/meetings.html#education (I don't know why I added an HTML version also -- I must have had a good reason at the time. <grin>) and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~flbgs/meetings.html#join [email protected], Patrice At 4/9/2008 03:01 AM, Nelda Percival wrote: >Hi, >Thank you, could you send me a url for one so I can see how the >coding looks? I've never coded for a pdf file. > >Nelda >Regards: Nelda Percival >http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > From: >[email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 9 >Apr 2008 00:34:44 -0500> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Putting excell >spread sheet on a web page> > Absolutely! Some of the marriage >records are posted as PDF's.> >

Ok Stupid here... I use frontline 2000... I can code some minor stuff... if a PDF file is not incorporated into the webpage how do you get it to upload to the account? I looked at the coding it addresses the pdf file like a picture format. it gives the address where it is <.A HREF="SummerCourse.pdf"> then the words or graphic to click on to access. but how did you physically get it in the website? <.A HREF="SummerCourse.pdf">Adobe PDF version<./A> <.IMG SRC="Resources/pdficon.gif" WIDTH="32" HEIGHT="32" ALIGN="MIDDLE" BORDER="0" NATURALSIZEFLAG="3".>Regards: Nelda Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:42:32 -0400> To: [email protected]> From: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Putting excell spread sheet on a web page> > Nelda,> > There isn't any special coding. Just save the document to pdf using > the program (Excel, Open Office or whatever). Then upload the pdf > file to the site. Link to the pdf file from another page. Here's > samples from the BGS > website: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~flbgs/meetings.html#education (I > don't know why I added an HTML version also -- I must have had a good > reason at the time. <grin>) and> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~flbgs/meetings.html#join> > [email protected],> Patrice> > At 4/9/2008 03:01 AM, Nelda Percival wrote:> >Hi,> >Thank you, could you send me a url for one so I can see how the > >coding looks? I've never coded for a pdf file.> >> >Nelda> >Regards: Nelda Percival > >http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > From: > >[email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 9 > >Apr 2008 00:34:44 -0500> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Putting excell > >spread sheet on a web page> > Absolutely! Some of the marriage > >records are posted as PDF's.> >> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I use Excel (actually QuattroPro) for some things. I can do a PDF, just saving the file as a PDF file and putting the entire file up. It tends to be bulky in code, and is not easy to change without going back to the original and saving it again. The advantage is that someone will be able to print exactly the way you did it. This works easiest if your program will export to PDF. I use PDF for flyers and things that need to print with the right spacings. For most tables, though, I usually I just take the file, put columns between the columns I have and add the code there for the table. So the first column would be <tr><td> and the subsequent new columns would be </td><td> and the last column at the end would be </td></tr> Copy the entire sheet and paste it into your web page. Fix the beginning for your table and close the table at the end. I do everything the simple way using my own coding if I can, but I am getting outdated. Cynthia www.rootsweb.com/~ohlake www.rootsweb.com/~ohlcgs www.rootsweb.com/~ohcdrt

Hi, Still not understanding. A different person in a different state will create the pdf file they will then send it to me as an attachment. How do I get it to be a webpage in the website?? NeldaRegards: Nelda Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:30:32 -0400> From: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Excel spreadsheets> > Hi, > > I use Excel (actually QuattroPro) for some things. I can do a> PDF, just saving the file as a PDF file and putting the entire file up. > It tends to be bulky in code, and is not easy to change without going> back to the original and saving it again. The advantage is that someone> will be able to print exactly the way you did it. This works easiest if> your program will export to PDF. I use PDF for flyers and things that> need to print with the right spacings. > For most tables, though, I usually I just take the file, put> columns between the columns I have and add the code there for the table. > So the first column would be <tr><td> and the subsequent new columns> would be </td><td> and the last column at the end would be </td></tr> > Copy the entire sheet and paste it into your web page. Fix the beginning> for your table and close the table at the end. > I do everything the simple way using my own coding if I can, but> I am getting outdated.> Cynthia> www.rootsweb.com/~ohlake> www.rootsweb.com/~ohlcgs> www.rootsweb.com/~ohcdrt> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pat, Think I really do not understand. I thought a pdf file was like a picture or anything else that was added to a webpage. I didn't think it created a web presence by itself. if it is added to a webpage how do you add it was my question when I asked about the coding... Please direct me.../ correct my interpitation..??Regards: Nelda Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/

Thanks for addressing the question about PDF files. > Are PDF files allowed here? I like to use PDF files because it appears to be a quick & easy way to get my information online. However, I've hesitated because it may be less convenient for users. Are there other disadvantages to posting files in PDF format? Are there certain PDF guidelines that should be followed at RootsWeb? Shari @ BHS

Hi Pat, Lordie... your every where! (Lucky for us) Guess I really don't understand. But, Bobbi is creating the PDF file, So I thought she would send it to me and I put it online.... Can you exxxplain...?? n.Regards: Nelda Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:24:14 -0400> To: [email protected]> From: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Putting excell spread sheet on a web page> > At 02:59 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote:> >Hi,> >Thank you, could you send me a url for one so I can see how the > >coding looks? I've never coded for a pdf file.> > > You don't code for a pdf file, you create the pdf file and link to it > just like any other link.> > pat> > > > ----------> Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage> We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/> > Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials> http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/> http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/ - Blog > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message