In a message dated 20/04/2008 14:24:44 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: try Google on-site search (free) Seemed a good idea so thought I would do just that. Managed to create a Google search account but could figure out how to add the search button to any of my sites. eg _http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/_ (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/) Sy who finds it very easily to miss the obvious.

If I remember right... after you create the account, look for a tab or "manage" area to GET CODE. I think the code thingie was rather hidden/obscure. In your webpage (an _include is nice for on site search boxes), locate the spot you want the search box.... Stick the code there. Judy On 4/20/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In a message dated 20/04/2008 14:24:44 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] > writes: > > try Google on-site search (free) > > > > Seemed a good idea so thought I would do just that. > Managed to create a Google search account but could figure out how to add > the search button to any of my sites. eg > _http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/_ ( > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/) > > Sy > who finds it very easily to miss the obvious. >

Robert Roach wrote: > I want to add an extensive index to our quarterly publication. I am looking for a free search tool for this. Also the ability to search the entire website would be useful. Any suggestions? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ssghs/ > > Thanks, > Robert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > We use 'Pico Search' on our association's web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ccfha/ use this link for info Site Search by PicoSearch <http://www.picosearch.com/cgi-bin/index.pl?wherefrom=picobox&type=all> A couple years ago I checked out "indexing" software by web searching. To get a really good software program for this, such as would be used for a good text book, required a sizable investment. I didn't find any thing free or cheap that was satisfactory. Perhaps something else is now available. Hope this helps. Jeff Owens

try Google on-site search (free) On 4/20/08, Robert Roach <[email protected]> wrote: > > I want to add an extensive index to our quarterly publication. I am > looking for a free search tool for this. Also the ability to search the > entire website would be useful. Any suggestions? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ssghs/ > > Thanks, > Robert

I want to add an extensive index to our quarterly publication. I am looking for a free search tool for this. Also the ability to search the entire website would be useful. Any suggestions? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ssghs/ Thanks, Robert

For those do not have FrontPage or Expression Web or use an editor that has the facility of reports... use a find and replace prog there are plenty of free one's around. For those that use fp or ew just use your reports quick and easier than going from page to page....it will also show up incorrectly coded links... also an ideal time to make sure all your index (home pages) are coded as absolute links without the index.htm index.html default.htm or whatever you use...(better seo to use the same link everywhere and not to use the file name as sometime you might move hosts use asp or php or whatever) Seo wise it's a must that links be changed from the old to the new asap.. and that you look at your stats and inform anyone that links to you to change .. also a good time to make sure they are linking in a good way that will help you the most with a title attribute and they are linking with good keyworded text and not using an image.... hth Tina http://any-expression.com/

At 06:43 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote: >Yes, have updated both websites. Tried several times, to index, to >NO avail. Before the 'change", they indexed with NO problems. kk I've not changed my point of entry with the Freefind I use on one site. Must be indexed somewhere ok for even after the URL change, folks are seeking and finding stuff per the report I get every week. Since I've not done anything to the site to need re-indexing I suppose I need not do anything? Tim Stowell

> I like the green on this page > http://ladytuffie.tripod.com/LaneFamilyTree/id4.html > > Is the background bgcolor="#339933" in View Source? > > Judy > > -- > Washington County PA Websites: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ Yes. ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- Tim Stowell [email protected]

At 07:53 AM 4/13/2008, you wrote: >I like the green on this page >http://ladytuffie.tripod.com/LaneFamilyTree/id4.html > >Is the background bgcolor="#339933" in View Source? Yes it is. If you have Firefox installed there is an addon color picker that allows you to hover your cursor over any color and it will give you all the values for that color. http://www.iosart.com/firefox/colorzilla/ pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/ - Blog

Thank you everyone! On 4/13/08, Judy Florian <[email protected]> wrote: > > I like the green on this page > http://ladytuffie.tripod.com/LaneFamilyTree/id4.html > > Is the background bgcolor="#339933" in View Source? > >

I like the green on this page http://ladytuffie.tripod.com/LaneFamilyTree/id4.html Is the background bgcolor="#339933" in View Source? Judy -- Washington County PA Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

In my case, since I always use a text editor, I simply found it expedient to use absolute links in certain header portions included with SSI -- and sometimes just due to pure thoughtlessness. ;o) -R. Hugh Watkins wrote: > to make the page idiot proof > some WYSYWYG editors break links > and refer to jpg on your own machine for example > > Huh W > > > On 12/04/2008, Tim Stowell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> At 11:33 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote: >> > > >Another hit, this one more serious. >> > > > >> > > >My search engine (WhatUseek) would not re-crawl my site. It said there >> > > >were zero pages. Others have reported similar experiences with other >> > > >search engines. Here is what I had to do to fix it -- short of >> > > >recompiling all my thousands of pages. >> > > >> > > Ugh. I forgot about those. Getting my forms fixed was my top priority. >> > > >> > > Next will be to fix a bazillion broken links that I had to folks >> > who've vacated >> > > Rootsweb for parts known and unknown. >> > > >> > > I'm not sure I understand why though you'd have to recompile your pages >> > > if you just needed to fix the URL in the search engine that it pointed to. >> > >> >If each page links back to his site (the home page, for example) using >> >an absolute rather than a relative URL. That is, >> > >> >freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/index.html >> > >> >rather than >> > >> >/index.html >> > >> >that would look like a different site to the robot which thinks it >> >is spidering >> > >> >freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is >> > >> >so he'd have to search & replace that link on every page and reload >> >the entire site. >> > >> >-- >> >Bob Sullivan >> >Schenectady Digital History Archive >> ><http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> >> >Schenectady County (NY) Public Library >> >> >> Ok. So why would one use absolute URLs for pages referring to other pages in >> the same directory or account? >> >> To, >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/ 502 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 122,600+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: [email protected] If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. -Mark Twain

I try to use relative links where possible in my pages, and they require no change. It's the absolute links that require updating to the new URL, and my compile process that I use will do that now that I have updated it -- as I recompile pages in the normal course of events. Only pages with updated /data/ are normally recompiled, you see. Adding the old URL to the search engine (as secondary entry point) insures that its spiders recognize both old and new URL forms as valid and belonging to my site: *Primary:* http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/ *Secondary:* http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ -R. Tim Stowell wrote: > At 10:17 PM 4/11/2008, Rod Davis wrote: > >> Another hit, this one more serious. >> >> My search engine (WhatUseek) would not re-crawl my site. It said there >> were zero pages. Others have reported similar experiences with other >> search engines. Here is what I had to do to fix it -- short of >> recompiling all my thousands of pages. >> > > Ugh. I forgot about those. Getting my forms fixed was my top priority. > > Next will be to fix a bazillion broken links that I had to folks who've vacated > Rootsweb for parts known and unknown. > > I'm not sure I understand why though you'd have to recompile your pages > if you just needed to fix the URL in the search engine that it pointed to. > > Tim Stowell > buried in tax forms > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/ 502 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 122,600+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: [email protected] If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. -Mark Twain

to make the page idiot proof some WYSYWYG editors break links and refer to jpg on your own machine for example Huh W On 12/04/2008, Tim Stowell <[email protected]> wrote: > At 11:33 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote: > > > >Another hit, this one more serious. > > > > > > > >My search engine (WhatUseek) would not re-crawl my site. It said there > > > >were zero pages. Others have reported similar experiences with other > > > >search engines. Here is what I had to do to fix it -- short of > > > >recompiling all my thousands of pages. > > > > > > Ugh. I forgot about those. Getting my forms fixed was my top priority. > > > > > > Next will be to fix a bazillion broken links that I had to folks > > who've vacated > > > Rootsweb for parts known and unknown. > > > > > > I'm not sure I understand why though you'd have to recompile your pages > > > if you just needed to fix the URL in the search engine that it pointed to. > > > >If each page links back to his site (the home page, for example) using > >an absolute rather than a relative URL. That is, > > > >freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/index.html > > > >rather than > > > >/index.html > > > >that would look like a different site to the robot which thinks it > >is spidering > > > >freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is > > > >so he'd have to search & replace that link on every page and reload > >the entire site. > > > >-- > >Bob Sullivan > >Schenectady Digital History Archive > ><http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> > >Schenectady County (NY) Public Library > > > Ok. So why would one use absolute URLs for pages referring to other pages in > the same directory or account? > > To, > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

At 12:22 AM 4/12/2008, you wrote: >Ok. So why would one use absolute URLs for pages referring to other pages in >the same directory or account? I will normally use an absolute url for the home page of my site. All images are inserted using relative urls. Links within the content area also use relative urls. If you are trying to test a site on your hard drive and use absolute urls, you will have a hard time checking the links to make sure they work. pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/ - Blog

At 01:49 AM 4/12/2008, you wrote: >to make the page idiot proof >some WYSYWYG editors break links >and refer to jpg on your own machine for example ============ In my experience, this only happens when you do not save the page first before inserting images or links OR the file you are linking or inserting is not actually part of the web you are working with. pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/ - Blog

At 11:33 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote: > > >Another hit, this one more serious. > > > > > >My search engine (WhatUseek) would not re-crawl my site. It said there > > >were zero pages. Others have reported similar experiences with other > > >search engines. Here is what I had to do to fix it -- short of > > >recompiling all my thousands of pages. > > > > Ugh. I forgot about those. Getting my forms fixed was my top priority. > > > > Next will be to fix a bazillion broken links that I had to folks > who've vacated > > Rootsweb for parts known and unknown. > > > > I'm not sure I understand why though you'd have to recompile your pages > > if you just needed to fix the URL in the search engine that it pointed to. > >If each page links back to his site (the home page, for example) using >an absolute rather than a relative URL. That is, > >freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/index.html > >rather than > >/index.html > >that would look like a different site to the robot which thinks it >is spidering > >freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is > >so he'd have to search & replace that link on every page and reload >the entire site. > >-- >Bob Sullivan >Schenectady Digital History Archive ><http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> >Schenectady County (NY) Public Library Ok. So why would one use absolute URLs for pages referring to other pages in the same directory or account? To,

> >Another hit, this one more serious. > > > >My search engine (WhatUseek) would not re-crawl my site. It said there > >were zero pages. Others have reported similar experiences with other > >search engines. Here is what I had to do to fix it -- short of > >recompiling all my thousands of pages. > > Ugh. I forgot about those. Getting my forms fixed was my top priority. > > Next will be to fix a bazillion broken links that I had to folks who've vacated > Rootsweb for parts known and unknown. > > I'm not sure I understand why though you'd have to recompile your pages > if you just needed to fix the URL in the search engine that it pointed to. If each page links back to his site (the home page, for example) using an absolute rather than a relative URL. That is, freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/index.html rather than /index.html that would look like a different site to the robot which thinks it is spidering freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is so he'd have to search & replace that link on every page and reload the entire site. -- Bob Sullivan Schenectady Digital History Archive <http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> Schenectady County (NY) Public Library

At 10:17 PM 4/11/2008, Rod Davis wrote: >Another hit, this one more serious. > >My search engine (WhatUseek) would not re-crawl my site. It said there >were zero pages. Others have reported similar experiences with other >search engines. Here is what I had to do to fix it -- short of >recompiling all my thousands of pages. Ugh. I forgot about those. Getting my forms fixed was my top priority. Next will be to fix a bazillion broken links that I had to folks who've vacated Rootsweb for parts known and unknown. I'm not sure I understand why though you'd have to recompile your pages if you just needed to fix the URL in the search engine that it pointed to. Tim Stowell buried in tax forms

have you updated freefind controls with the new subdomain URL ? Hugh W On 11/04/2008, kk <[email protected]> wrote: > Attempted to Index the two sites I maintain: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mocharit/ and > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molinn/, as 'Tim" suggested. Received the same > message as did Nan. Shall send an email to the contact listed at the bottom > of the received message, under PS.... > > No pages on your site were indexed. > > This is usually for one of three reasons: > > a) you are indexing a password protected site > and did not specify the correct authorization > information > > (fix: log in to the Control Center, press the > build index tab, click "password protected areas" > enter your proper authorization information) > > b) your site was not on-line and > operating when our spider visited > > (fix: get your site going and try again) > > c) an internet problem occurred somewhere > between our server and your web site > > (fix: try again after a while) > > For a complete indexing log, login to your account at: > > http://www.freefind.com/control.html > > Press the "Reports" tab and click "View log list". > > Questions about what pages get indexed? > Check the FreeFind help and faq at > http://www.freefind.com/library > > Sincerely, > Alan and Jim > FreeFind.com > > P.S. If you have any problems with FreeFind, please contact us > at: http://www.freefind.com/contact.html so that we can fix > the problem! (Please be sure to check the library first at: > http://www.freefind.com/library and include your URL, > e-mail and site ID in your e-mail) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Stowell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:04 AM > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Free find problem > > > > > >> I have 2 sites, both using Free Find as search engine. One is > >> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/>, Jefferson County New York and the > >> other is an ALHN site for the Town of Alexandria in Jefferson County: > >> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycalexa/> > >> > >> I received identical messages concerning both: > >> > >> "We were unable to read any pages when trying to index > >> your site. This can occur if your server is not responding > >> or if there is an internet problem between our servers and yours." > >> > >> Before I go chasing wild geese, can anyone tell me if this is a problem > >> elsewhere? Does it have anything to do with the proposed move? > >> > >> Nan Dixon > >> [email protected] > > > > Nan, > > > > You need to change the URL Free Find is seeking to index. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycalexa/ should now be > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nycalexa/ > > > > and > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/ should be > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyjeffer/ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- > > Tim Stowell > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 > > 7:30 AM > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG