At 08:49 PM 4/23/2008, you wrote: >I'm a bit confuzzled about the </body tags... I added those right above the ></html tag and after I save in Frontpage and re-open to html view, the close >body tags disappear -- three times now. What's up with that? Am I >inserting in the wrong spot? Do you have an opening body tag? immediately after the closing head tag? A closing body tag? FP includes insert ONLY the content between the opening and closing body tag nothing else. I no longer have any of those files for the template on my computer and I am not sure they ever validated. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/adding-search-engine.html is the tutorial I did on adding search boxes. Each of them validates so you can use those to try and figure out what is wrong . Judy I honestly do not remember if they validated two years ago or not. Looking at the code I would say no as I style tables using a style sheet not the way these are done. Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to go through and move all the styles to the external sheet and fix the coding errors. You can use the above code for the search box itself as a guideline to getting those pages to validate. Before you start adding any content to the template, you should get it to validate. This site http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ is the only one that comes close to validating and the NOBR tag is the only error. You can check out the css for using it here http://www.anyexample.com/webdev/css/nobr_tag_css_alternative_analog.xml This is the one that validates except for the nobr tag which throws up three errors. Compare that with what you have on the page with 41 errors and find out what is wrong. pat

Ok Pat & All, Remember Pat when you worked on reformating (for lack of a better word) those search codes to put into tables at the top, for my _include ? Well, the searches are still the 41 errors. I took each include to the validator-- 2 errors (1 each include) are no doc type -- but I should not use a doc type in an include, right? I'll list the rest here. If it's something I can fix, let me know. In Frontpage, my line numbering stops at 114. So the w3 info is hard to follow. I'm a bit confuzzled about the </body tags... I added those right above the </html tag and after I save in Frontpage and re-open to html view, the close body tags disappear -- three times now. What's up with that? Am I inserting in the wrong spot? I think if I list the errors here, as I planned to do, it will be too big to send via the List. But all I see come from the Freefind searches or the tables we stuck them into 2 years ago, Pat. Advice? Judy

At 03:45 PM 4/23/2008, Judy Florian wrote: >Hmmm I copied the html right from Frontpage and it validated. If you are using copy and paste from within fp, you are not getting the code for the includes which is part of your validation problems. You have missing divs and I do not see a body tag although it may very well be there. Fix the validation problems and it may fix the other problems. pat

> Hmmm I copied the html right from Frontpage and it validated. I copied the > CSS right from its file and it validated. Wonder why it's wrong once both > get put online? I use IE6. Try checking it at <http://validator.w3.org/> to see a list of the problems. > By the way, I re-uploaded the page (just now). I put a question on it, if > anyone can look at it and explain it to me. Not sure about your color question, but that blue on darker brown is a little hard to read, especially on the line under the Picosearch box where the text is small. Not a problem on the lighter area where there is more contrast. -- Bob Sullivan Schenectady Digital History Archive <http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> Schenectady County (NY) Public Library

At 03:09 PM 4/23/2008, Judy Florian wrote: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/o_f2/temp_religions.htm > >I've been trying to adjust a CSS template made for me so I could match >colors I already had on this website. > >As the Professor said in My Fair Lady "I think she's got it!" Both the html >and CSS validate. If the above link is what you are trying to get right - The css validates, the page itself has 41 errors. Did you look at it in FF or just IE? Right now I have a raging sinus headache so anything more will have to wait. From what I can see, the background colors look fine. pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/ - Blog

Hmmm I copied the html right from Frontpage and it validated. I copied the CSS right from its file and it validated. Wonder why it's wrong once both get put online? I use IE6. By the way, I re-uploaded the page (just now). I put a question on it, if anyone can look at it and explain it to me. Judy On 4/23/08, Patricia Geary <[email protected]> wrote: > > At 03:09 PM 4/23/2008, Judy Florian wrote: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/o_f2/temp_religions.htm > > I've been trying to adjust a CSS template made for me so I could match > colors I already had on this website. > > As the Professor said in My Fair Lady "I think she's got it!" Both the > html > and CSS validate. > > > > If the above link is what you are trying to get right - > > The css validates, the page itself has 41 errors. Did you look at it in FF > or just IE? > > Right now I have a raging sinus headache so anything more will have to > wait. > > From what I can see, the background colors look fine. > > pat > >

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/o_f2/temp_religions.htm I've been trying to adjust a CSS template made for me so I could match colors I already had on this website. As the Professor said in My Fair Lady "I think she's got it!" Both the html and CSS validate. I *think* I got the background color set right. Could someone check for me to see if COLORS look ok in different browsers? I did not fix anything else yet. Please be kind if anything looks wrong-- I'm still learning CSS. Judy -- Washington County PA Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

At 08:32 PM 4/22/2008, walex1 wrote: >My Genealogy Society site is located at >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alneags/ > >When I first started the site, the ftp address was >"ftp://users.rootsweb.com/home0001/a/l/alneags". Since Rootsweb now >comes under Ancestry.com, should my ftp address be >ftp://users.rootsweb.ancestry.com/home0001/a/l/n/alneags? Are there >any other changes that should be made? Pat, The server/host address is users.rootsweb.com Remote directory: public_html Your account name ( alneags ) and password are not part of the server address. They are entered separately in your FTP client. Pat Asher

At 08:32 PM 4/22/2008, walex1 wrote: >My Genealogy Society site is located at >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alneags/ > >When I first started the site, the ftp address was >"ftp://users.rootsweb.com/home0001/a/l/alneags". Since Rootsweb now >comes under Ancestry.com, should my ftp address be >ftp://users.rootsweb.ancestry.com/home0001/a/l/n/alneags? Are there >any other changes that should be made? > >I have tried for over a year to get changes made to our site, with >no success at all. I've tried three different ftp clients and none >work. Could my Mindspring (Earthlink) connection be a part of the >problem? I even slept with Boogie Jack's >(http://www.boogiejack.com/) book under my pillow. > >Would it be more logical to delete this entire page and start with a new one? > >Thank you for any help available, users.freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Instructions for setting up ftp for all rootsweb servers http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/tutorials/step-by-step-instructions.htm http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/tutorials/filezilla-instructions.htm http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/tutorials/publishing-with-ftp.htm pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/ - Blog

My Genealogy Society site is located at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alneags/ When I first started the site, the ftp address was "ftp://users.rootsweb.com/home0001/a/l/alneags". Since Rootsweb now comes under Ancestry.com, should my ftp address be ftp://users.rootsweb.ancestry.com/home0001/a/l/n/alneags? Are there any other changes that should be made? I have tried for over a year to get changes made to our site, with no success at all. I've tried three different ftp clients and none work. Could my Mindspring (Earthlink) connection be a part of the problem? I even slept with Boogie Jack's (http://www.boogiejack.com/) book under my pillow. Would it be more logical to delete this entire page and start with a new one? Thank you for any help available, Pat Alexander

why not put the data on the internet anyway? Hugh W 2008/4/22 singhals <[email protected]>: > > Dennis Ahern wrote: > > > Jeff Owens <[email protected]> responded: > > > > > >>The simple answer is that most database programs have a search feature > >>built in. A database without a search feature is useless from my > >>perspective. If there is no search feature, what you have is merely a > >>list, not a database. > > > > > >>What software are you using to create this database? > > > > > > My first mistake in asking this question was to refer to our collection of > > information as a database. In some people's minds this means something to > > do with SQL or some more complex computer thingy. That is not what it > > really is. It's just a collection of information, arranged in a hierarchy > > of html and pdf files. > > > > On this standalone computer there is an "index" file, named links.htm > > which comes up automatically when the computer is booted up. This "index" > > file is nothing more than a list of links to the next level of pages. > > There are, at present, four links: > > > > Remembrances of Isaac Davis Post G.A.R. veterans > > Service records of Acton men in the Civil War > > List of pension files and service records > > Record of deaths and obituaries of Acton's Civil War veterans > > > > Each of these links takes you to another pages of links. For example, the > > "service records" page takes you to a page with the following links: > > > > Civil War service records > > [which opens a pdf of an xcell spreadsheet listing each man] > > Naval vessels > > [which is a list of links to histories of ships men served on] > > Regimental histories > > [which is a list of links to histories of units men served in] > > > > Say for example a visitor saw that we included a regimental history for > > the 7th Kansas Cavalry and wanted to find out how a man from Massachusetts > > ended up in the Kansas cavalry, without even knowing who that man was. If > > I had this website on the 'Net with a search engine by Google or PICO, > > they could type in "kansas" and the search engine would give them a link > > to the obituary of Winthrop Harrison Faulkner from a Somerville, Mass. > > newspaper. How can I make something like this work on a standalone > > computer without having to create an sql database and without having a > > connectin to the Internet at the user level? As administrator I have > > access to the Internet with a database and could set up a web browser > > search engine, but once I've set it up, would that search engine still > > work when I took the computer offline? When I want to add pages after the > > initial setting up of the search engine, how would I get the search > > engine's spiders to re-search the pages without having to leave the > > computer linked to the 'Net while the exhibit is open to the public? > > > > OK Dennis, what is it I'm misunderstanding here? (g) > > Can't the user pull up the in-house webpage and use ctl-f to > search the page? > > Or what about that concordance feature to build an index? > > Cheryl > > -- > There should be no attachments on this message, unless I > specifically mentioned them above. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

> why not put the data on the internet anyway? Verily. Put the data on a site - the library's or someone else's - and make it searchable with FreeFind etc. Now, the library-specific issue is that they don't want to just put out a computer which people will use to surf random sites. We use a program called NetDog to "whitelist" 100-odd specific URLs (our catalog, the databases to which we subscribe, assorted genealogy resources) and block everything else. (You'll need to include the address for the search service in the list.) This allows us to dedicate specific PCs for research so (for example) the Ancestry users may do their work without time limits and without having to compete with the other Internet users. NetDog is free and the list is easy to maintain. You may find it at: <http://www.worldstart.com/tips/tips.php/3155> -- Bob Sullivan Schenectady Digital History Archive <http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> Schenectady County (NY) Public Library

Dennis Ahern wrote: > Jeff Owens <[email protected]> responded: > > >>The simple answer is that most database programs have a search feature >>built in. A database without a search feature is useless from my >>perspective. If there is no search feature, what you have is merely a >>list, not a database. > > >>What software are you using to create this database? > > > My first mistake in asking this question was to refer to our collection of > information as a database. In some people's minds this means something to > do with SQL or some more complex computer thingy. That is not what it > really is. It's just a collection of information, arranged in a hierarchy > of html and pdf files. > > On this standalone computer there is an "index" file, named links.htm > which comes up automatically when the computer is booted up. This "index" > file is nothing more than a list of links to the next level of pages. > There are, at present, four links: > > Remembrances of Isaac Davis Post G.A.R. veterans > Service records of Acton men in the Civil War > List of pension files and service records > Record of deaths and obituaries of Acton's Civil War veterans > > Each of these links takes you to another pages of links. For example, the > "service records" page takes you to a page with the following links: > > Civil War service records > [which opens a pdf of an xcell spreadsheet listing each man] > Naval vessels > [which is a list of links to histories of ships men served on] > Regimental histories > [which is a list of links to histories of units men served in] > > Say for example a visitor saw that we included a regimental history for > the 7th Kansas Cavalry and wanted to find out how a man from Massachusetts > ended up in the Kansas cavalry, without even knowing who that man was. If > I had this website on the 'Net with a search engine by Google or PICO, > they could type in "kansas" and the search engine would give them a link > to the obituary of Winthrop Harrison Faulkner from a Somerville, Mass. > newspaper. How can I make something like this work on a standalone > computer without having to create an sql database and without having a > connectin to the Internet at the user level? As administrator I have > access to the Internet with a database and could set up a web browser > search engine, but once I've set it up, would that search engine still > work when I took the computer offline? When I want to add pages after the > initial setting up of the search engine, how would I get the search > engine's spiders to re-search the pages without having to leave the > computer linked to the 'Net while the exhibit is open to the public? > OK Dennis, what is it I'm misunderstanding here? (g) Can't the user pull up the in-house webpage and use ctl-f to search the page? Or what about that concordance feature to build an index? Cheryl -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

Dennis Ahern wrote: > As administrator I have > access to the Internet with a database and could set up a web browser > search engine, but once I've set it up, would that search engine still > work when I took the computer offline? No > When I want to add pages after the > initial setting up of the search engine, how would I get the search > engine's spiders to re-search the pages without having to leave the > computer linked to the 'Net while the exhibit is open to the public? > > > Can't do Try using your search engine (while online) and look for "Offline search engine". You'll find numerous possibilities. one place to start might be here: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/O/offline_search_engine.html Jeff Owens > >

Jeff Owens <[email protected]> responded: >The simple answer is that most database programs have a search feature >built in. A database without a search feature is useless from my >perspective. If there is no search feature, what you have is merely a >list, not a database. >What software are you using to create this database? My first mistake in asking this question was to refer to our collection of information as a database. In some people's minds this means something to do with SQL or some more complex computer thingy. That is not what it really is. It's just a collection of information, arranged in a hierarchy of html and pdf files. On this standalone computer there is an "index" file, named links.htm which comes up automatically when the computer is booted up. This "index" file is nothing more than a list of links to the next level of pages. There are, at present, four links: Remembrances of Isaac Davis Post G.A.R. veterans Service records of Acton men in the Civil War List of pension files and service records Record of deaths and obituaries of Acton's Civil War veterans Each of these links takes you to another pages of links. For example, the "service records" page takes you to a page with the following links: Civil War service records [which opens a pdf of an xcell spreadsheet listing each man] Naval vessels [which is a list of links to histories of ships men served on] Regimental histories [which is a list of links to histories of units men served in] Say for example a visitor saw that we included a regimental history for the 7th Kansas Cavalry and wanted to find out how a man from Massachusetts ended up in the Kansas cavalry, without even knowing who that man was. If I had this website on the 'Net with a search engine by Google or PICO, they could type in "kansas" and the search engine would give them a link to the obituary of Winthrop Harrison Faulkner from a Somerville, Mass. newspaper. How can I make something like this work on a standalone computer without having to create an sql database and without having a connectin to the Internet at the user level? As administrator I have access to the Internet with a database and could set up a web browser search engine, but once I've set it up, would that search engine still work when I took the computer offline? When I want to add pages after the initial setting up of the search engine, how would I get the search engine's spiders to re-search the pages without having to leave the computer linked to the 'Net while the exhibit is open to the public? -dja

see http://www.mysql.com/about/ your database has to have a server and most have a search function too The project's source code is available under terms of the GNU General Public License, as well as under a variety of proprietary agreements. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL http://www.google.com/search?rls=GGGL%2CGGGL%3A2006-23%2CGGGL%3Aen&hl=en&q=gnu+database&btnG=Google+Search Database applications - Free Software Directory - Free Software ... Tool for developing database frontend applications ... distribute, and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, ... directory.fsf.org/category/dbapps/ The McKoi SQL Database is written entirely in Java. Supports transactions, referential integrity, triggers, indexes, Java-specific enhancements. Supports multi-threaded, multi-client operation; embedable. Released under the GPL license. This is probably the most advanced open-source pure-Java database out there. http://www.mckoi.com/database/ Hugh W On 21/04/2008, Dennis Ahern <[email protected]> wrote: > > Does anyone know of a search engine that can be used with a database that > is not connected to the Internet? I'm working on a database of material > related to the Civil War archives of our local public Library. It's part > of a permament exhibit that just opened Saturday. The database will have > information on every individual who served in the Civil War from Acton, > Massachusetts or served from elsewhere and settled here after the War. The > exhibit has a computer at which people can click on links to information > on individuals and the units in which they served. It might be nice to > have a search engine, but how can you do that if the only time the > computer is connected to the Internet is when the admistrator has logged > on to download files or something? > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern, Trustee | Acton Memorial Library > Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.actonmemoriallibrary.org > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

The simple answer is that most database programs have a search feature built in. A database without a search feature is useless from my perspective. If there is no search feature, what you have is merely a list, not a database. What software are you using to create this database? Jeff Owens Dennis Ahern wrote: > Does anyone know of a search engine that can be used with a database that > is not connected to the Internet? I'm working on a database of material > related to the Civil War archives of our local public Library. It's part > of a permament exhibit that just opened Saturday. The database will have > information on every individual who served in the Civil War from Acton, > Massachusetts or served from elsewhere and settled here after the War. The > exhibit has a computer at which people can click on links to information > on individuals and the units in which they served. It might be nice to > have a search engine, but how can you do that if the only time the > computer is connected to the Internet is when the admistrator has logged > on to download files or something? > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern, Trustee | Acton Memorial Library > Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.actonmemoriallibrary.org > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > >

Does anyone know of a search engine that can be used with a database that is not connected to the Internet? I'm working on a database of material related to the Civil War archives of our local public Library. It's part of a permament exhibit that just opened Saturday. The database will have information on every individual who served in the Civil War from Acton, Massachusetts or served from elsewhere and settled here after the War. The exhibit has a computer at which people can click on links to information on individuals and the units in which they served. It might be nice to have a search engine, but how can you do that if the only time the computer is connected to the Internet is when the admistrator has logged on to download files or something? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern, Trustee | Acton Memorial Library Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.actonmemoriallibrary.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Try FreeFind. It allows you to schedule re-indexing without having to manually trigger it and also allows more pages than PicoSearch. Sherri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Roach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Website search tool >I want to add an extensive index to our quarterly publication. I am >looking for a free search tool for this. Also the ability to search the >entire website would be useful. Any suggestions? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ssghs/ > > Thanks, > Robert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 11:17 AM 4/20/2008, [email protected] wrote: >Seemed a good idea so thought I would do just that. >Managed to create a Google search account but could figure out how to add >the search button to any of my sites. eg >_http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/_ >(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/) > >Sy >who finds it very easily to miss the obvious. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/adding-search-engine.html pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/ - Blog