At 06:54 PM 1/1/2010, you wrote: >What does <th> mean? <th> = table header pat

Hi Charles, There's no *easy* answer, unfortunately. Here's how I'd do it. 1. Get an *idea* of how you'd like it to be arranged, IF possible to do. But.... 2. Wait to get the CD before finalizing your plan. 3. Visit the Fayette Co PAGenWeb -- they have a large cemetery photo database. See if you like their design. If you do, Click View Source and save it as a TXT file. 4. When you get the CD, browse through them in the Details view of Windows Explorer - gives size. As you browse, note if you'll have to crop sides and bottom BEFORE deciding on a uniform size. 5. I'd arrange by -- Cemetery first ---By Surname second (By date or by cemetery row is just too hard). 6. Copy all the pics to a backup drive. Work on them on the backup drive. Do all cropping first--- keep in mind what size you want for all photos. 7. Decide on a uniform width x height and begin revising each photo to that size. At the end of each filename put something like _d for "done" OR move each to a "done re-sizing" folder. 8. Decide how many you want per folder. Move sets into separate folders. 9. Make thumbnails using EasyThumbnails free program. Make sure to do a test on 1 photo. use the settings tab to set your height and width for thumb size 10 decide how many thumbs you can put on a horizontal line... make your table for all the "A" names... 1 for "B" names, etc. On some alphabet letters (C, L, M, Mc, R, S, T, V, W) you will likely need several pages (s_names_1.html and keep numbering each till the last one) 11. Make 1 html page of thumbnails. 12. Label each thumbnail. 13. Go back to the large photos. Decide how you want to present them. It is MUCH harder to do one html page for each larger photo. It is much EASIER to just link a thumbnail directly to its corresponding big picture, without it being on a web page (not one you make). But you won't be able to add a title under the picture. So if you have photoshop, you could add text to each photo, like maybe the cemetery name? Or a copyright and phototaker name? Visitors will see the deceased's info on the tombstone. A pic without an html page just opens on a white rootsweb page. 15. If you do the pic-no page route, just link each thumb to its bigger picture. 16. upload after doing 1 folder of pics-- makes it easier and faster to upload. 17. If you don't want others to have access to a folder of pics (as a directory only), put an index.htm page in that folder. On the page, just have navigation back to the site's main page AND the A-B-C-D navigation to the cemetery photos, or at least to the cemetery/index.htm (the main index page for the whole project) 18. I forgot, do a navigation table of A, B, C, D for each surname letter. If one letter has 2 pages, llink to a "Main page for the Letter A" for example. But instead of a "page" for this table, put it in an _include. Much easier to link to one _include, rather than have to manually put the nav table on every page. Other people might do it differently. I've never found an easy way to do a huge pic project. Take it one section at a time. And, good luck-- you'll be working for many months. Judy PS I use Frontpage too. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Charles Barnum <jcnreno@charter.net> wrote: > Good New Year to you All, > Cemetery Survey: > A lady is sending me 500 headstone photos on disk and sending me the > names in a special format I asked her to use. > Name; date one; date two; comments. > I usually convert that to a table in MS Word using the ";" as the column > separator. (The lady does not have Excel.) Then, I usually convert that > to Excel and then decide if I want a table or <pre> text form for the > web page. However, I have discovered a way to convert a Word file > directly into a <pre> format for using Expression Web 3. (Expression Web > 3 is a glorified program of FrontPage that has massive flaws when it > comes to tables.) > What is the best way to display a 500 name cemetery file with linked > photos? How do you do it? I use EW3 but often fall back to using > FrontPage because it is easier to use and does not crash like EW3 does. > > Happy New Year, all is well that ends well. > Charles

Judy, That is a nice layout. What does <th> mean? In my case the photos will be already cropped to 488 pixels wide. I used to use thumbnails but no longer use them. So I will link each name to a photo link. Nice table, thank you. Charles > Hi Charles, > > There's no *easy* answer, unfortunately. > > Here's how I'd do it. > > 1. Get an *idea* of how you'd like it to be arranged, IF possible to do. > But.... > 2. Wait to get the CD before finalizing your plan. > 3. Visit the Fayette Co PAGenWeb -- they have a large cemetery photo > database. See if you like their design. > If you do, Click View Source and save it as a TXT file. > 4. When you get the CD, browse through them in the Details view of Windows > Explorer - gives size. > As you browse, note if you'll have to crop sides and bottom BEFORE deciding > on a uniform size. > 5. I'd arrange by > -- Cemetery first > ---By Surname second > (By date or by cemetery row is just too hard). > 6. Copy all the pics to a backup drive. Work on them on the backup drive. > Do all cropping first--- keep in mind what size you want for all photos. > 7. Decide on a uniform width x height and begin revising each photo to that > size. At the end of each filename put something like _d for "done" OR move > each to a "done re-sizing" folder. > 8. Decide how many you want per folder. Move sets into separate folders. > 9. Make thumbnails using EasyThumbnails free program. Make sure to do a > test on 1 photo. use the settings tab to set your height and width for > thumb size > 10 decide how many thumbs you can put on a horizontal line... make your > table for all the "A" names... 1 for "B" names, etc. On some alphabet > letters (C, L, M, Mc, R, S, T, V, W) you will likely need several pages > (s_names_1.html and keep numbering each till the last one) > 11. Make 1 html page of thumbnails. > 12. Label each thumbnail. > 13. Go back to the large photos. Decide how you want to present them. It > is MUCH harder to do one html page for each larger photo. > It is much EASIER to just link a thumbnail directly to its corresponding big > picture, without it being on a web page (not one you make). But you won't > be able to add a title under the picture. So if you have photoshop, you > could add text to each photo, like maybe the cemetery name? Or a copyright > and phototaker name? Visitors will see the deceased's info on the > tombstone. A pic without an html page just opens on a white rootsweb page. > 15. If you do the pic-no page route, just link each thumb to its bigger > picture. > 16. upload after doing 1 folder of pics-- makes it easier and faster to > upload. > 17. If you don't want others to have access to a folder of pics (as a > directory only), put an index.htm page in that folder. On the page, just > have navigation back to the site's main page AND the A-B-C-D navigation to > the cemetery photos, or at least to the cemetery/index.htm (the main index > page for the whole project) > 18. I forgot, do a navigation table of A, B, C, D for each surname letter. > If one letter has 2 pages, llink to a "Main page for the Letter A" for > example. But instead of a "page" for this table, put it in an _include. > Much easier to link to one _include, rather than have to manually put the > nav table on every page. > > Other people might do it differently. I've never found an easy way to do a > huge pic project. Take it one section at a time. And, good luck-- you'll > be working for many months. > > Judy > PS I use Frontpage too. > > > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Charles Barnum <jcnreno@charter.net> wrote: > > >> Good New Year to you All, >> Cemetery Survey: >> A lady is sending me 500 headstone photos on disk and sending me the >> names in a special format I asked her to use. >> Name; date one; date two; comments. >> I usually convert that to a table in MS Word using the ";" as the column >> separator. (The lady does not have Excel.) Then, I usually convert that >> to Excel and then decide if I want a table or <pre> text form for the >> web page. However, I have discovered a way to convert a Word file >> directly into a <pre> format for using Expression Web 3. (Expression Web >> 3 is a glorified program of FrontPage that has massive flaws when it >> comes to tables.) >> What is the best way to display a 500 name cemetery file with linked >> photos? How do you do it? I use EW3 but often fall back to using >> FrontPage because it is easier to use and does not crash like EW3 does. >> >> Happy New Year, all is well that ends well. >> Charles >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 01:20:00 > >

Good New Year to you All, Cemetery Survey: A lady is sending me 500 headstone photos on disk and sending me the names in a special format I asked her to use. Name; date one; date two; comments. I usually convert that to a table in MS Word using the ";" as the column separator. (The lady does not have Excel.) Then, I usually convert that to Excel and then decide if I want a table or <pre> text form for the web page. However, I have discovered a way to convert a Word file directly into a <pre> format for using Expression Web 3. (Expression Web 3 is a glorified program of FrontPage that has massive flaws when it comes to tables.) What is the best way to display a 500 name cemetery file with linked photos? How do you do it? I use EW3 but often fall back to using FrontPage because it is easier to use and does not crash like EW3 does. Happy New Year, all is well that ends well. Charles

I had no problem. The settings look fine to me. J.A. Florian wrote: > I set up filezilla per Pat and Barry's instruction pages. > > Filezilla is expecting a welcome message and can't connect. > > Is the server down (6:22pm EST) or have I configured filezilla improperly? > > Web folder: pawashin > Host: users.rootsweb.com > Normal Logon type > user ID pawashin > Password (case sensitive) > Advanced servertype default ftp > Passive transfer > > Did I miss anything? > > Judy

I set up filezilla per Pat and Barry's instruction pages. Filezilla is expecting a welcome message and can't connect. Is the server down (6:22pm EST) or have I configured filezilla improperly? Web folder: pawashin Host: users.rootsweb.com Normal Logon type user ID pawashin Password (case sensitive) Advanced servertype default ftp Passive transfer Did I miss anything? Judy

Looks fine to me on my Macbook, I see no wayward gifs. I haven't been following this, so may not be up to snuff on what you're doing. But - this is the body statement that I see: <body style="background-image: url('../../graphics/ washingtonback.gif'); background-repeat: repeat-y; background- attachment: scroll; background-position: 0% 50%"> I noticed that I can see the border on the right, of the first group pictures, but not on the left. So the center doesn't work on the top table of pictures, but does on the bottom (showing the last two). Gloria On Dec 27, 2009, at 8:29 AM, J.A. Florian wrote: > Could folks re-check this page please? > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html > > The code I had was this: > > <...body background="../../graphics/washingtonback.gif"> > > > Lorrie sent me this: > > <...body style="background: > url('../../graphics/washingtonback.gif');background-repeat:no- > repeat;"> > > > I had a smaller monitor before so I never noticed the repeat on the > right. > Sigh... one more thing to check and re-do. > > Let me know if it looks okay now. (It looks ok here.) If so, I'll > use > Lorrie's suggestion on all the other ones too. One weird thing > though, on > my PC the new code pushes the left side of the background wayyyy > down so it > looks like it isn't on the PC version until the bottom. Why is that? > > Judy > > > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:15 AM, J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Lists, >> >> I wondered if someone could help me fix a big boo-boo on one of my >> pages. >> >> My page is >> >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

It looks good now ... All I see that might need changing is that some of the photographs are not centered within their respective blocks. On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 8:29 AM, J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > Could folks re-check this page please? > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Epawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html> > > The code I had was this: > > <...body background="../../graphics/washingtonback.gif"> > > > Lorrie sent me this: > > <...body style="background: > url('../../graphics/washingtonback.gif');background-repeat:no-repeat;"> > > > I had a smaller monitor before so I never noticed the repeat on the right. > Sigh... one more thing to check and re-do. > > Let me know if it looks okay now. (It looks ok here.) If so, I'll use > Lorrie's suggestion on all the other ones too. One weird thing though, on > my PC the new code pushes the left side of the background wayyyy down so it > looks like it isn't on the PC version until the bottom. Why is that? > > Judy > > > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:15 AM, J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Lists, > > > > I wondered if someone could help me fix a big boo-boo on one of my pages. > > > > My page is > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Epawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html> > > > > >

Could folks re-check this page please? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html The code I had was this: <...body background="../../graphics/washingtonback.gif"> Lorrie sent me this: <...body style="background: url('../../graphics/washingtonback.gif');background-repeat:no-repeat;"> I had a smaller monitor before so I never noticed the repeat on the right. Sigh... one more thing to check and re-do. Let me know if it looks okay now. (It looks ok here.) If so, I'll use Lorrie's suggestion on all the other ones too. One weird thing though, on my PC the new code pushes the left side of the background wayyyy down so it looks like it isn't on the PC version until the bottom. Why is that? Judy On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:15 AM, J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Lists, > > I wondered if someone could help me fix a big boo-boo on one of my pages. > > My page is > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html > > >

At 01:15 AM 12/27/2009, J.A. Florian wrote: >I have a gif as a left-side vertical body graphic. I checked the gif (the >former webmaster used it) and it's definitely a left-side only graphic. But >something in my page is causing it to double into one on the left and one on >the right. On my PC I only see the one going down the left side. But on >the Web, a right-side second one is going down through the last row of kids' >faces. ============= Have the image repeat vertically only with the background color as white rather than repeating both vertically and horizontally as you do now. Pat

I have one other question. To make the page (below), I copied a template and changed items on it. One template item was a submitter name (Doris) with <email AT whatever > So for the page, I deleted that entry and inserted the new submitter name and his email. When I first validated the page, it had 214 errors where my computer or the program made Doris into a CSS "ID" with span codes between every word in her old email address. But I had definitely erased Doris and her email AND it had only been in ONE spot at the top. Not only did the computer repeat this Doris ID and spans, but it repeated it throughout the page (causing over 200 errors)even when I inserted text from the new/other submitter way down on the page. The Doris name was not on anything for this new content, so somehow the program copied the line of code over and over and over and over... Note: no where in the original Doris line of code was there any span codes and Doris's email had only been typed once on that original template page. My question is, how could that have happened with code not only repeating itself but adding code pieces into it? and added itself into new text that Doris had nothing to do with ever. I want to avoid the mistake in the future, if I can understand how it happened. Judy On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:15 AM, J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Lists, > > I wondered if someone could help me fix a big boo-boo on one of my pages. > > My page is > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html > > >

Hi Lists, I wondered if someone could help me fix a big boo-boo on one of my pages. My page is http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/schools/cinder_hill_school/school-no-3_cinder-hill_1916.html I have a gif as a left-side vertical body graphic. I checked the gif (the former webmaster used it) and it's definitely a left-side only graphic. But something in my page is causing it to double into one on the left and one on the right. On my PC I only see the one going down the left side. But on the Web, a right-side second one is going down through the last row of kids' faces. Also I ran the page through http://validator.w3.org/ In the html I have <...table border="1" width="95%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" height="100%"> Validator complains and says: Line 70, Column 70: Attribute "HEIGHT" is not a valid attribute. Did you mean "height"? …="95%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" height="100%"> It marks the "error" between the t=" Validator goes on to say that this error is often because of using STRICT instead of TRASITIONAL DOC TYPE. HUH? I have Transitional Doc Type. I have the word height in lowercase. It seems right to me. What am I not seeing? Why is validator complaining about height ? And why does the page have the right side of the table covered with a gif that's supposed to be only on the left? Note: I set the left first-only cells of each row to be right-align, so the left-side gif wouldn't cover those faces. But the last cell of each row is set to left-align so it would fit better onscreen. I don't think those cell settings affected the body background... * Note: I'm not planning on trying any External CSS on this site for another 6 mos to a year. So I'm only interested in fixing the html coding on this page for now. Thank you for your keen eyes and assistance, Judy

Strange... nice work. On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:26 AM, DONNA COOPER wrote: > Thanks, I figured it out! > > I had 4.00 here instead of 4.01. And on Firefox it viewed as Chinese. > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> > > Donna Cooper > > > --- On Thu, 12/24/09, Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> > wrote: > >> From: Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> >> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Page Reads Chinese >> To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com, rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 1:54 PM >> At 11:58 AM 12/24/2009, DONNA COOPER >> wrote: >>> List Helpers, I have a page that reads fine in Explorer >> but in >>> Firefox it reads Chinese. It validates in Firefox >> without any error >>> warnings. But in Explorer it has some warnings about >> background color. >>> >>> I don't see anything in the code that would make it >> read Chinese. >>> >>> Can any of you see what the problem is? >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/School-Book/o-index.htm >> >> >> I'm using Firefox and it reads in English to me. >> >> >> >> pat >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

same here. On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com>wrote: > At 11:58 AM 12/24/2009, DONNA COOPER wrote: > >List Helpers, I have a page that reads fine in Explorer but in > >Firefox it reads Chinese. It validates in Firefox without any error > >warnings. But in Explorer it has some warnings about background color. > > > >I don't see anything in the code that would make it read Chinese. > > > >Can any of you see what the problem is? > > > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/School-Book/o-index.htm<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Emobarry/School-Book/o-index.htm> > > > I'm using Firefox and it reads in English to me. > > pat > >

Thanks, I figured it out! I had 4.00 here instead of 4.01. And on Firefox it viewed as Chinese. <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> Donna Cooper --- On Thu, 12/24/09, Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> wrote: > From: Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Page Reads Chinese > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com, rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 1:54 PM > At 11:58 AM 12/24/2009, DONNA COOPER > wrote: > >List Helpers, I have a page that reads fine in Explorer > but in > >Firefox it reads Chinese. It validates in Firefox > without any error > >warnings. But in Explorer it has some warnings about > background color. > > > >I don't see anything in the code that would make it > read Chinese. > > > >Can any of you see what the problem is? > > > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/School-Book/o-index.htm > > > I'm using Firefox and it reads in English to me. > > > > pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

> I will think about making a template page. But my pages are so simple > that I can keep it in my mind most of the time. I did make some tiny > changes in the colors, so part of my web site is in one color and the > rest in another color. They are so close in color that it can not be > noticed. As for tables, I use, "make this table default" so new tables > are always the same. I am still changing the older tables. > And by the way, I have never used a server that is faster than RW. They > fall far short. RW is king. > CB Regarding a template .... I think you said you 'got rid of themes' before.... so you understand that they do a global job for you on the site and you just edit one area to make changes.... dwts (dynamic web templates) work in the same princple but meet standards and validate and are much easier ... they can be found in fp03 and all the ew versions... (and dreamweaver too) i suggest you dl Expression Web Dynamic Web Templates Ebook http://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/expression-web-dwt-ebook.htm which is f*r e e it explains how to make and use them and more besides... why should you use a dwt? even over and above a template .. they save masses of maintainance time.... they have editable and non editable areas the editable areas are places like your content (anything that is unique to an area) .. you might also use an editable area on your menu in conjunction with includes (page includes is the one bot kept as they validate code wise and work with or without fpse (frontpage server extensions) and many many people use them as they have been around since the lite frontpage express version... this way you can have a different menu for difference sections if you look at my site on the above link and click through the menu you can see how this works.. those are text links formatted with css in a dwt using includes in an editable area... (another editable area is your page title and meta descripton and keywords as you dont want those to be the same on each page of course) non editable areas might be the footer and the header where the information is the same on all pages ... in which you case you would edit the dwt itself to make changes .... so then along with using css for your formatting.. using an external style sheet ... all your styles are in ONE place.. so you want to change the colour of the backround or the banner in the header or the colour of hyperlinks or the colour of a heading tag ... etc etc you do that on one page and bingo all the formatting is done.... you don't use inline styles or embedded styles as that is more work (unless there is a special situation that requires it for a style ).... with all that help .. you have more time to create:) Tina Expression Web Xmas/NY Giveaway 23rd Dec - 15th Jan http://www.frontpage-to-expression.com/expression-web-giveaway.html

At 04:27 PM 12/24/2009, you wrote: >As far as making a template, I didn't comprehend at first how much easier it >is to have one. It holds all the stuff that stays the same on every page. >Then you just copy the template, re-name it, and add NEW content. Like, >let's say you have across the top "Barnum Family" as the page header. And >down the side you have navigation. At the bottom you've got copyright and >contact info. None of that changes, so why not have one page--no >content--just the never changing stuff, and call it template.htm Then, you >just copy and re-name the "template" to a new name and add new content in >the center area of the page. A template really helps to quickly add new >content on new pages. If Charles and anyone else is using FP2003 and any version of Expression Web - Dreamweaver too I believe, there is not reason to copy the template and rename it. You simply develop the content, attach the dwt and you are done. want to change the header, change the DWT and it propagates to all attached pages. Change or add to your menu, same scenario. The template as Judy is using it is NOT the same thing as a dynamic web templates used by Expression Web and Dreamweaver. Pat Pat Geary Expression Web Xmas/NY Giveaway 23rd Dec - 15th Jan http://www.frontpage-to-expression.com/expression-web-giveaway.html EW Christmas Template Gift http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/christmas/

Thanks CB. Everytime I think I'll get a block of uninterrupted time here, I (still) get interrupted anyway! I'm not an expert on this stuff, but I'd be scared to have anyone's server be my backup. Rootsweb servers haven't gone down much (at least since I started) and RW can (often? usually?) restore what one server loses. But--- imagine the "what if" -- what if your web was the one that got "lost"? What if you had 5,000 pages and Rootsweb server broke and for some reason, maybe they got 4,509 restored but the rest were just "gone"? You'd be happy about what was successfully restored, but, what about what was lost? Wouldn't it be nice if, right in your house, you had a copy made just last week of ALL 5,000 pages? Ooops, what if you did make a copy "just last week", but for some reason, that copy of files got corrupted. Wouldn't it be great if you had a back-up made just 2 weeks ago, and that you have the last 3 or 4 changes as complete back-ups -- ones you made each week or so? I make a folder called "Web_as of XX date" on an external drive and copy the entire "My Webs" into the "Web_as of XX date" folder. I *try* to back-up weekly or every 2 weeks. When I have an entire new month backed up, I delete all the ones saved in the previous month. They make some pretty big external drives (plug & play USB) at under $80.00 to 120.00. I got 1 as a gift, luckily. But Best Buy has good prices & sales. About a month ago they had a "Terabyte" (a terabyte !!) external drive for $100.00 (who would ever fill up a terabyte??). Seagate drives seem to be reliable. I had only 1 Seagate fail in 5 years. As far as making a template, I didn't comprehend at first how much easier it is to have one. It holds all the stuff that stays the same on every page. Then you just copy the template, re-name it, and add NEW content. Like, let's say you have across the top "Barnum Family" as the page header. And down the side you have navigation. At the bottom you've got copyright and contact info. None of that changes, so why not have one page--no content--just the never changing stuff, and call it template.htm Then, you just copy and re-name the "template" to a new name and add new content in the center area of the page. A template really helps to quickly add new content on new pages. Judy On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Charles Barnum <jcnreno@charter.net>wrote: > Judy, > Good luck on learning the sideshow. I want to learn about dwt but will > ask about that on the ew list. I only have three more counties to > convert to xhtml and will finish that by Jan 1. I know I should be using > a template. I do that but keep it in my mind not on a web page. My > problem is, as I go along I change the layout slightly to something that > I like better. I use the web site on the server as my backup. I also > have an Old copy on my computer that I never change just in case I have > to go back to it to find a missing page. > CB >

At 11:58 AM 12/24/2009, DONNA COOPER wrote: >List Helpers, I have a page that reads fine in Explorer but in >Firefox it reads Chinese. It validates in Firefox without any error >warnings. But in Explorer it has some warnings about background color. > >I don't see anything in the code that would make it read Chinese. > >Can any of you see what the problem is? > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/School-Book/o-index.htm I'm using Firefox and it reads in English to me. pat

I understand, Judy. I also have my web site on another server that I pay for. I did get a scare a few weeks ago when my computer failed and I had to buy a new computer. At the same time, the server where I had it took my account off-line because I had an earlier order to switch to a faster server. I did panic. It all worked out eventually. I will think about making a template page. But my pages are so simple that I can keep it in my mind most of the time. I did make some tiny changes in the colors, so part of my web site is in one color and the rest in another color. They are so close in color that it can not be noticed. As for tables, I use, "make this table default" so new tables are always the same. I am still changing the older tables. And by the way, I have never used a server that is faster than RW. They fall far short. RW is king. CB J.A. Florian wrote: > Thanks CB. Everytime I think I'll get a block of uninterrupted time here, I > (still) get interrupted anyway! > > I'm not an expert on this stuff, but I'd be scared to have anyone's server > be my backup. Rootsweb servers haven't gone down much (at least since I > started) and RW can (often? usually?) restore what one server loses. But--- > imagine the "what if" -- what if your web was the one that got "lost"? What > if you had 5,000 pages and Rootsweb server broke and for some reason, maybe > they got 4,509 restored but the rest were just "gone"? You'd be happy about > what was successfully restored, but, what about what was lost? Wouldn't it > be nice if, right in your house, you had a copy made just last week of ALL > 5,000 pages? > > Ooops, what if you did make a copy "just last week", but for some reason, > that copy of files got corrupted. Wouldn't it be great if you had a back-up > made just 2 weeks ago, and that you have the last 3 or 4 changes as complete > back-ups -- ones you made each week or so? I make a folder called "Web_as > of XX date" on an external drive and copy the entire "My Webs" into the > "Web_as of XX date" folder. I *try* to back-up weekly or every 2 weeks. > When I have an entire new month backed up, I delete all the ones saved in > the previous month. > > They make some pretty big external drives (plug & play USB) at under $80.00 > to 120.00. I got 1 as a gift, luckily. But Best Buy has good prices & > sales. About a month ago they had a "Terabyte" (a terabyte !!) external > drive for $100.00 (who would ever fill up a terabyte??). Seagate drives > seem to be reliable. I had only 1 Seagate fail in 5 years. > > As far as making a template, I didn't comprehend at first how much easier it > is to have one. It holds all the stuff that stays the same on every page. > Then you just copy the template, re-name it, and add NEW content. Like, > let's say you have across the top "Barnum Family" as the page header. And > down the side you have navigation. At the bottom you've got copyright and > contact info. None of that changes, so why not have one page--no > content--just the never changing stuff, and call it template.htm Then, you > just copy and re-name the "template" to a new name and add new content in > the center area of the page. A template really helps to quickly add new > content on new pages. > > Judy > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Charles Barnum <jcnreno@charter.net>wrote: > > >> Judy, >> Good luck on learning the sideshow. I want to learn about dwt but will >> ask about that on the ew list. I only have three more counties to >> convert to xhtml and will finish that by Jan 1. I know I should be using >> a template. I do that but keep it in my mind not on a web page. My >> problem is, as I go along I change the layout slightly to something that >> I like better. I use the web site on the server as my backup. I also >> have an Old copy on my computer that I never change just in case I have >> to go back to it to find a missing page. >> CB >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.119/2585 - Release Date: 12/24/09 00:11:00 > >