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    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 5, Issue 13
    2. Glenn Gilbert
    3. The dates are returned from the server using Server Side Includes. Here are three short tutorials... HTML Goodies SSI: The Include Command http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/webmaster/article.php/3473341 SSI: Dates and Times http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/webmaster/article.php/3473351 has a table of arguments that you can use to format the output SSI: File Returns http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/webmaster/article.php/3473361 Mary wrote: > Where do these scripts pull the date from. Some I have seen just use > todays date, so everytime you pull a page up it has last updated with > todays date.. > > Mary

    01/11/2010 02:30:00
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] "updated" script
    2. Mona
    3. Thanks, everyone, for the terrific discussion about the "updated" and "copyright" scripts! Fascinating! Mona -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser Buffalo County NEGenWeb --www.rootsweb.com/~nebuffal/

    01/10/2010 04:27:46
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] "updated" script
    2. Robert Sullivan
    3. >    <!--#CONFIG TIMEFMT="%Y-%m-%d %R" --> The LAST_MODIFIED SSI variable may be displayed a variety of ways, as seen for instance at: <http://www.freewebmasterhelp.com/tutorials/ssi/2> Since you may use more than one format on a page, it's possible to do both your page-updated dates and your copyright dates automatically: If you're using a copyright meta tag, you could write it this way: <meta name="copyright" content="<!--#config timefmt="%Y" -->Copyright <!--#echo var="LAST_MODIFIED" --> Your County XXGenWeb" /> Similarly, a last-updated and copyright footer could look like this: <p><!--#config timefmt="%B %e, %Y" --><!--#echo var="DOCUMENT_URI" --> updated <!--#echo var="LAST_MODIFIED" --></p> <p><!--#config timefmt="%Y" -->Copyright <!--#echo var="LAST_MODIFIED" --> Your County XXGenWeb</p> That would give you your page address followed by a date in the form January 10, 2010, then a copyright line with 2010. -- Bob Sullivan Schenectady Digital History Archive <http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> Schenectady County (NY) Public Library

    01/10/2010 08:36:10
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] "updated" script
    2. Rod Dav4is
    3. Hi, You can avoid using JavaScript altogether and use the Server Side Include (SSI) facility. Heres the code that I put on every page: <!--#echo encoding="none" var="DOCUMENT_URI" --> <!--#CONFIG TIMEFMT="%Y-%m-%d %R" --> <br>Uploaded: <!--#echo encoding="none" var="LAST_MODIFIED" -->&nbsp; That puts the URI of the page and the date uploaded so: /~dav4is/people/HABSBURG.htm Uploaded: 2009-09-02 13:43 -R. Susan W Pieroth wrote: > I agree - having the script on every page is not useful. Actually, it > can look like you don't update stuff. I have it on pages that do get > updated, such as the main page, the index pages to submissions and the > resource page. I will put a copyright date on a new addition (such as a > publication scan/transcript) showing when the information was placed on > the site. Changing that date automatically every year is lot logical to > me. If I change the page for some reason, than I can manually change the > copyright information. Most pages, as you suggest, don't get touched again. > > Susan > Lackawanna Co. PAGenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/ > > On 1/9/2010 9:31 AM, J.A. Florian wrote: > >> Could someone give a short list of pros and cons for using a "last updated" >> javascript like Mona has asked about? >> >> Like, I have many pages in many sub-sections. But once I put up a Will for >> John XXX in the sub-folder "Wills", there's rarely reason to do anything >> more with "that" page. It's written once and updated/changed never. I may >> add another Will for George ZZZ but other than changing the index.htm page >> for that folder to add in the new Will, George ZZZ's will page would rarely >> if ever change. >> >> So should the "last updated" javascript just be put on the main index.htm >> and on the sub-sections' index.htm pages? >> >> Or is it of any value to add this script at all? Wouldn't it just be as >> easy to use a bottom "include" and type something like "This site is updated >> weekly or monthly with additional material" ? >> >> Judy >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/ 538 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 136,000+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: DAV4IS@YAHOO.COM A Democrat, a Republican and a giraffe walk into a bar. The bartender looks up from his want ads and says, "What is this, a joke?" -unknown

    01/10/2010 01:00:17
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 5, Issue 11
    2. Derick Hartshorn
    3. At 05:45 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: >Could someone give a short list of pros and cons for using a "last updated" >javascript like Mona has asked about? > >Like, I have many pages in many sub-sections. But once I put up a Will for >John XXX in the sub-folder "Wills", there's rarely reason to do anything >more with "that" page. It's written once and updated/changed never. I may >add another Will for George ZZZ but other than changing the index.htm page >for that folder to add in the new Will, George ZZZ's will page would rarely >if ever change. > >So should the "last updated" javascript just be put on the main index.htm >and on the sub-sections' index.htm pages? > >Or is it of any value to add this script at all? Wouldn't it just be as >easy to use a bottom "include" and type something like "This site is updated >weekly or monthly with additional material" ? > >Judy Put it on any page you choose. The date changes only when you make a change and upload the file to the server. --Derick

    01/09/2010 12:05:28
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 5, Issue 11
    2. Derick Hartshorn
    3. At 05:45 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: >Using this script to update Last Modified or Updated seems to me to >give the wrong impression if the date changes each day? It gives the >impression that the site/page has new content when in fact in may not. >Nitpicking? Maybe, but something to think about. > >I use the script but not for that purpose. Just to update the copyright dates. > >Pat The date changes only when you "FILE" the page that you've made changes on. --Derick

    01/09/2010 12:03:56
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 5, Issue 10
    2. ---- Mona <HeritageHunt@sandyviewinfo.net> wrote: > Hi Derick, > Thanks for that info. I'll file it away for future reference. > Right now I'm not interested in using JavaScript. > > Mona > I am glad I could be of help, Mona. I am not a techie at all, I just happened to have this file tucked away so I could call it up anytime I needed it. I also call it "counter" which makes no sense at all, but that's the way it goes. LOL David > Derick Hartshorn wrote: > > Mona, > > > > While the RootsWeb script works on RW servers, it might be a mark of > > wisdom to use a Java for a "last updated" script. > > Just cut and paste the following just before </body> and </html> > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Last Modified:&nbsp; <!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" startspan --> > > <script language="JavaScript"> > > <!-- > > > > function SymError() > > { > > return true; > > } > > > > window.onerror = SymError; > > > > var SymRealWinOpen = window.open; > > > > function SymWinOpen(url, name, attributes) > > { > > return (new Object()); > > } > > > > window.open = SymWinOpen; > > > > //--> > > </script> > > <script> > > <!--//hide > > document.write(document.lastModified); > > //end hide--> > > </script> <br> > > <script language="JavaScript"> > > <!-- > > var SymRealOnLoad; > > var SymRealOnUnload; > > > > function SymOnUnload() > > { > > window.open = SymWinOpen; > > if(SymRealOnUnload != null) > > SymRealOnUnload(); > > } > > > > function SymOnLoad() > > { > > if(SymRealOnLoad != null) > > SymRealOnLoad(); > > window.open = SymRealWinOpen; > > SymRealOnUnload = window.onunload; > > window.onunload = SymOnUnload; > > } > > > > SymRealOnLoad = window.onload; > > window.onload = SymOnLoad; > > > > //--> > > </script> > > <!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" endspan --> </font></p> > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > You can change the "last modified" to "updated" or anything you want. > > Good luck, > > > > --Derick > > > -- > Mona Houser > HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net > Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ > Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ > My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- dmorgan003@hawaii.rr.com David W Morgan Ewa Beach Hawaii **** http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/

    01/09/2010 08:40:32
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] "updated" script
    2. Susan W Pieroth
    3. I agree - having the script on every page is not useful. Actually, it can look like you don't update stuff. I have it on pages that do get updated, such as the main page, the index pages to submissions and the resource page. I will put a copyright date on a new addition (such as a publication scan/transcript) showing when the information was placed on the site. Changing that date automatically every year is lot logical to me. If I change the page for some reason, than I can manually change the copyright information. Most pages, as you suggest, don't get touched again. Susan Lackawanna Co. PAGenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/ On 1/9/2010 9:31 AM, J.A. Florian wrote: > Could someone give a short list of pros and cons for using a "last updated" > javascript like Mona has asked about? > > Like, I have many pages in many sub-sections. But once I put up a Will for > John XXX in the sub-folder "Wills", there's rarely reason to do anything > more with "that" page. It's written once and updated/changed never. I may > add another Will for George ZZZ but other than changing the index.htm page > for that folder to add in the new Will, George ZZZ's will page would rarely > if ever change. > > So should the "last updated" javascript just be put on the main index.htm > and on the sub-sections' index.htm pages? > > Or is it of any value to add this script at all? Wouldn't it just be as > easy to use a bottom "include" and type something like "This site is updated > weekly or monthly with additional material" ? > > Judy

    01/09/2010 06:50:22
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] "updated" script
    2. J.A. Florian
    3. Could someone give a short list of pros and cons for using a "last updated" javascript like Mona has asked about? Like, I have many pages in many sub-sections. But once I put up a Will for John XXX in the sub-folder "Wills", there's rarely reason to do anything more with "that" page. It's written once and updated/changed never. I may add another Will for George ZZZ but other than changing the index.htm page for that folder to add in the new Will, George ZZZ's will page would rarely if ever change. So should the "last updated" javascript just be put on the main index.htm and on the sub-sections' index.htm pages? Or is it of any value to add this script at all? Wouldn't it just be as easy to use a bottom "include" and type something like "This site is updated weekly or monthly with additional material" ? Judy On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Mona <HeritageHunt@sandyviewinfo.net> wrote: > Can someone please tell me where I can find the script to have Rootsweb > automatically add the "this page was updated" notice at the bottom of my > index page? > > Thanks! > > Mona > --

    01/09/2010 02:31:06
    1. [ROOTSWEB-HELP] A blog that explains how "bad guys" spread PC infections
    2. J.A. Florian
    3. Lots of people don't realize the numerous ways we can help "the bad guys" infect our personal computers with bad stuff. Since we are webmasters, we should try to be as educated as possible about the tricks "the bad guys" use. I stumbled on this web blog that shows, via screen shots and clear explanations, how infections can get onto our PCs if we aren't aware of the bad guy's tricks. http://www.support.com/Community/blogs/ That site is a company but I am *not* suggesting anyone needs to use their services. But the Blog info is straightforward and seems accurate. I really appreciated the screen shots so I could look them over without any risk of "getting" a virus. Note the Blog Author cautions again and again to NOT try to reproduce the things he's showing and to NOT visit the sites he's showing. I also appreciated that he showed those pop-ups that say OK or Cancel & it's sometimes confusing about what action to take to avoid "getting" something nasty. He recommends shutting any open program and shutting down the PC and re-starting-- but how many of us try to just get the pop-up closed instead? The author explains that both options of OK or Cancel can still download an infection from those pop-ups. I hope the info helps someone. Judy

    01/09/2010 02:16:19
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Last Modified/Last Updated
    2. Patricia Geary
    3. At 06:56 AM 1/9/2010, you wrote: >Mona, > >While the RootsWeb script works on RW servers, it might be a mark of >wisdom to use a Java for a "last updated" script. >Just cut and paste the following just before </body> and </html> >------------------------------------------------- >Last Modified:&nbsp; <!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" startspan --> ><script language="JavaScript"> ><!-- > >function SymError() >{ > return true; >} ============== Using this script to update Last Modified or Updated seems to me to give the wrong impression if the date changes each day? It gives the impression that the site/page has new content when in fact in may not. Nitpicking? Maybe, but something to think about. I use the script but not for that purpose. Just to update the copyright dates. Pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook Revised to include EW 3.0 http://frontpage-to-expression.com/

    01/09/2010 01:58:42
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 5, Issue 10
    2. Mona
    3. Hi Derick, Thanks for that info. I'll file it away for future reference. Right now I'm not interested in using JavaScript. Mona Derick Hartshorn wrote: > Mona, > > While the RootsWeb script works on RW servers, it might be a mark of > wisdom to use a Java for a "last updated" script. > Just cut and paste the following just before </body> and </html> > ------------------------------------------------- > Last Modified:&nbsp; <!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" startspan --> > <script language="JavaScript"> > <!-- > > function SymError() > { > return true; > } > > window.onerror = SymError; > > var SymRealWinOpen = window.open; > > function SymWinOpen(url, name, attributes) > { > return (new Object()); > } > > window.open = SymWinOpen; > > //--> > </script> > <script> > <!--//hide > document.write(document.lastModified); > //end hide--> > </script> <br> > <script language="JavaScript"> > <!-- > var SymRealOnLoad; > var SymRealOnUnload; > > function SymOnUnload() > { > window.open = SymWinOpen; > if(SymRealOnUnload != null) > SymRealOnUnload(); > } > > function SymOnLoad() > { > if(SymRealOnLoad != null) > SymRealOnLoad(); > window.open = SymRealWinOpen; > SymRealOnUnload = window.onunload; > window.onunload = SymOnUnload; > } > > SymRealOnLoad = window.onload; > window.onload = SymOnLoad; > > //--> > </script> > <!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" endspan --> </font></p> > ------------------------------------------------------ > You can change the "last modified" to "updated" or anything you want. > Good luck, > > --Derick > -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser

    01/09/2010 01:54:39
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] 'last updated' script
    2. Jeff Owens
    3. Derick Hartshorn wrote: > > it might be a mark of > wisdom to use a Java for a "last updated" script. > Just cut and paste the following just before</body> and</html> > ------------------------------------------------- > <SNIP> Very minor point for those who are not familiar, but Java and Javascript are not the same thing. So if you're looking for any reference as to how the suggested Javascript works, be sure to diferentiate in your searching. Jeff Owens

    01/09/2010 01:47:30
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 5, Issue 10
    2. Derick Hartshorn
    3. Mona, While the RootsWeb script works on RW servers, it might be a mark of wisdom to use a Java for a "last updated" script. Just cut and paste the following just before </body> and </html> ------------------------------------------------- Last Modified:&nbsp; <!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" startspan --> <script language="JavaScript"> <!-- function SymError() { return true; } window.onerror = SymError; var SymRealWinOpen = window.open; function SymWinOpen(url, name, attributes) { return (new Object()); } window.open = SymWinOpen; //--> </script> <script> <!--//hide document.write(document.lastModified); //end hide--> </script> <br> <script language="JavaScript"> <!-- var SymRealOnLoad; var SymRealOnUnload; function SymOnUnload() { window.open = SymWinOpen; if(SymRealOnUnload != null) SymRealOnUnload(); } function SymOnLoad() { if(SymRealOnLoad != null) SymRealOnLoad(); window.open = SymRealWinOpen; SymRealOnUnload = window.onunload; window.onunload = SymOnUnload; } SymRealOnLoad = window.onload; window.onload = SymOnLoad; //--> </script> <!--webbot bot="HTMLMarkup" endspan --> </font></p> ------------------------------------------------------ You can change the "last modified" to "updated" or anything you want. Good luck, --Derick At 08:39 AM 1/9/2010, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:59:34 -0600 >From: Mona <HeritageHunt@sandyviewinfo.net> >Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] "updated" script >To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <4B47C6E6.6070507@sandyviewinfo.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >Can someone please tell me where I can find the script to have Rootsweb >automatically add the "this page was updated" notice at the bottom of my >index page? > >Thanks! > >Mona >-- >Mona Houser >HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net >Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ >Nahausen Families ? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ >My Database ? http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser >Buffalo County NEGenWeb -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nebuffal/

    01/08/2010 11:56:36
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] last updated
    2. Mona
    3. Thanks, David! Mona Morgan wrote: > > <center>This page was last updated > <!-- --> > <!--#echo var="LAST_MODIFIED"--> </center> > > </body> > </html> > > David W. Morgan damorgan@nyx.net Honolulu Hawaii > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dmorgan/ -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser

    01/08/2010 02:26:35
    1. [ROOTSWEB-HELP] "updated" script
    2. Mona
    3. Can someone please tell me where I can find the script to have Rootsweb automatically add the "this page was updated" notice at the bottom of my index page? Thanks! Mona -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser Buffalo County NEGenWeb -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nebuffal/

    01/08/2010 10:59:34
    1. [ROOTSWEB-HELP] last updated
    2. Morgan
    3. <center>This page was last updated <!-- --> <!--#echo var="LAST_MODIFIED"--> </center> </body> </html> David W. Morgan damorgan@nyx.net Honolulu Hawaii http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dmorgan/

    01/08/2010 07:23:24
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] utf-8
    2. Tina Clarke
    3. > Pat, > I came to this list to learn and share, not to be lectured to and to > argue with others. That finger wagging post Tina sent to that list > member at 3:40PM was enough for me. thats totally your interpretation but completely wrong as usual. >> Since Microsoft has absolutely NOTHING to do with RootsWeb it is not >> likely anyone will point you to a page done by Microsoft to tell you >> how to get the banner to validate. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THAT IS AN ABSURD STATEMENT >> >> Perhaps this will mean more to you >> http://searches2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/HTMLHELP/2008-10/1225477892 >> >> Pat this statement about pats post really takes the biscuit... Pat is nothing but kindness itself, she has helped many many members on this list and others and been instrumental in implementing validation methods for the banner... how on earth can what she said be absurd? Its completely true .. ms don't even know rootsweb exisits why would they be writing tutorials about ad banner code on a third party host? huh? I'm complete baffled by the way you think.... however I am completely sure that the information on the posts given will have helped someone else .. one reason I continued to post to you... the second being your 'fact's' will completely mislead others... .. I did some other posts in response to your others .. but can't be bothered to post them now.. unless anyone wants some help with those issues ( migtrating etc) that might have triggered your own questions? Tina F ree Expression Web Toolbar - Expression Web and Web Design Resources http://frontpage-to-expression.com/expression-web-community-toolbar.html Just posted new links to the toolbar - Make YOUR suggestions Will work in FireFox IE and Safari

    01/05/2010 08:38:54
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] EW vs FP
    2. Tina Clarke
    3. > My response: While Fp2000 will find all occurrences, there is no > universal > Replace in Frontpage2000. The user must still click OK on each change. > I've done it over the years, many times. And it takes 2 to 3 hours. I've said this to you before ;).... Get SharePoint Designer 2007 .. it acts like expression web 1 .. but it has still quite a few of the fp bots and SharePoint ..you ignore the SharePoint features and the fp bots if you are no longer using them. whilst getting the benefit of the error reporting other features such as global find and replace split view dwts ... and other stuff... its just another tool... if you don't like to use it as your web editor .. use it as one gigantic find and replace tool at the very least.. you would use a third party tool if that got the job done so why not spd07? and you can open your site in either application you dont have to remove any previous fp version .. just dont open the site at the same time in both (but as always make a backup in fp first... i have never had a problem moving between the applications but one should always prepare) its f r e e - http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepointdesigner/FX100487631033.aspx of course if you want to continue to use the equal of your grandmothers washing board and not the nice new automatic washers for sale don't let me stop you using the equal of the wash board ... FrontPage 2002 for the equal of the auto washer - ew 3 ;) btw look at my sig line! if you do get it be sure to set it up first the ebook for ew1 is the one to use for sharepoint designer 07 http://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/setting-up-expression-web-ebook.htm using the internet for me has always been about learning ... the reason I keep learning is because I want fire my neurons frequently and also if a job is worth doing its worth doing well ... I don't care that my current site at any point in time is always better than the last one but not as good as the next one ... if I can look back over the year and say hey I learnt something and it has stuck in my head... I feel good.. another reason why I help others with ew fp and web design .. helping others helps yourself... other people's problems and projects server as real time challenges and its always always much better to have a real challenge instead of a made up one. plus one's information is no good if certain readers because they are using older browser.. can't read it .. or disabled visitors.. which is why its ALWAYS a good idea to get your code looking good. You don't always want to eat that elephant but sometimes its necessary whatever you are applying it too... and thats what got me here in the first place <grin> however not everyone agrees ... so we shall agree to disagree:) Tina Expression Web Xmas/NY Giveaway 23rd Dec - 15th Jan http://www.frontpage-to-expression.com/expression-web-giveaway.html

    01/05/2010 04:40:15
    1. Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] utf-8
    2. John Gibson Chalmers
    3. In message <mailman.4670.1262720820.14599.rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com>, rootsweb-help-request@rootsweb.com writes iso-8859 is a subset of UTF8 - so with UTF8 your pages will work just as well PLUS you can write stuff in Chinese if you care to. For a fuller explanation see: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html (which relates to unix systems, but the fundamentals are true for any computer system) Why limit yourself by using an old standard - go for UTF8! >Message: 4 >Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:24:40 -0500 >From: Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> >Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] utf-8 >To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <201001051751.o05HpN41006392@mail.rootsweb.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >At 11:59 AM 1/5/2010, you wrote: >>I too use utf-8 based on reading that it was an >>international standard. Does anyone else have >>observations on its use? > > >It's the default used with Expression web but I usually change it to > ><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> > >http://www.htmlbasictutor.ca/character-encoding.htm > >pat > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:54:12 -0500 >From: Robert Sullivan <robert.g.sullivan@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] utf-8 >To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <32c265401001051054redcd328m36682cd61c6bc960@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >>> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /> > >> I too use utf-8 based on reading that it was an >> international standard. ?Does anyone else have >> observations on its use? >> George > >That's why I did it also. I was doing a complete renovation of my >site and wanted to get it right. There's nothing wrong with >iso-8859-1, but if you're taking the long view you might as well use >utf-8. > >-- >Bob Sullivan >Schenectady Digital History Archive ><http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> >Schenectady County (NY) Public Library > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:08:16 -0600 >From: "Jim Rickenbacker\(3\)" <j3mr2@borisbrooks.com> >Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] utf-8 >To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <B8889A57F82E49819DA779291394776D@delta> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >utf-8 is a variable length character set, i.e. some special characters take >more than one byte. If you are doing database driven web pages this can >cause string processing problems for languages like PHP and Perl. UTF-8 >shouldn't be a problem for static web pages but for now I'm sticking with >iso-8859-1 until utf-8 gains maturity and more universal support. > >For much the same maturity reason, I'm avoiding XHTML 1.0. HTML 4.01 strict >works well, displays equivalently in IE and Firefox and should convert to >XHTML 2+ fairly easily. > >Jim Rickenbacker > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "George Waller" <George@waller.org> >To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:59 AM >Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] utf-8 > > >>I too use utf-8 based on reading that it was an >> international standard. Does anyone else have >> observations on its use? >> George >> >> On 4 Jan 2010 at 23:24, Tina Clarke wrote: >> >>> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /> > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:34:01 -0500 >From: Robert Sullivan <robert.g.sullivan@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] utf-8 >To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <32c265401001051134j6ab9189ge93a665cede9935c@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> For much the same maturity reason, I'm avoiding XHTML 1.0. HTML 4.01 strict >> works well, displays equivalently in IE and Firefox and should convert to >> XHTML 2+ fairly easily. > >Or to put it another way, if you are validating your pages to a strict >doctype, whether it's HTML 4.01 or XHTML 1.0 is a matter of taste. >Either one will help you a lot in future conversions. > >Validating to HTML 4.01 / XHTML 1.0 Transitional is better than no >validation, but it still passes a lot of crud which is better off >removed or updated. > -- John Gibson Chalmers - john@dgnscrn.demon.co.uk Homepages ... http://www.dgnscrn.demon.co.uk/ and ... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~chalmers/

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