At 03:32 AM 1/19/2010, J.A. Florian wrote: >3. BIG issue-- what #colors go with the colored-images I used? If my images >fail, I need the background colors to be there, but I'm not sure I picked >good #colors. I'm not color blind, but I can't tell shade differences very >well. Can someone check my colors, and tell me what #colors I should use in >each layer? ============ For anyone using Firefox, there is an addon that I find particularly helpful in doing just this. Colorzilla http://www.colorzilla.com/firefox/ once installed you can click it, hover over an image or any part of it and select the color number. I use it all of the time for background colors. Pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook Revised to include EW 3.0 http://frontpage-to-expression.com/

At 10:44 PM 1/18/2010, you wrote: >So, barring inept errors on my part, it seems that the only thing that >works on RootsWeb is the *only* thing that doesn't work on my local >web server. And, what works is not what you said would work :-( If your account is on the Freepages server, the problem with using "/" to indicate root, is that you don't have access to the root directory. The configuration on that server uses internal redirects so you can have multiple URLs in one account. The path you see is http://freepages.xxxx_html.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~accountname/ Whereas, on the server, the actual path is: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~accountname/xxxx_html/ Pat

I've spent the last day trying to re-work an External CSS. I still need some help though. My eyes aren't good with picking color shades. I took the CSS that Pat G made for me for my religions website and changed stuff in the CSS for my rootsweb site. The good news is that it still validates-- meaning, I didn't mess up Pat's work-- yay! (I've messed up enough "CSS tests" in the past.) The page is http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/z_testing_css_2nd-try.htm The css is: pagenweb.css It took me hours & hours to figure out why my background image or #colors didn't work, but I finally got the background image (outermost image) to show up. But to do that, I had to remove all the #color numbers and other images so I could see each piece as I put stuff back in (or changed it) one at a time. Here are the things I need to know: 1. Does it look ok? 2. Why does the innermost layer on the right not show as much red border from the middlemost layer, like it shows on the left side? 3. BIG issue-- what #colors go with the colored-images I used? If my images fail, I need the background colors to be there, but I'm not sure I picked good #colors. I'm not color blind, but I can't tell shade differences very well. Can someone check my colors, and tell me what #colors I should use in each layer? 4. I'm mostly concerned that if the images fail, I might have picked a background color that won't show my content. So could you pay extra, extra attention to the colors I picked. 5. For the "beige" innermost layer where the content goes, I couldn't find a #color that matched well. Can you help? 6. Also for the innermost, I added a #color to the comment just to save it. But I don't know IF a color specification is supposed to be in this section (or not). What happens if the beige image on the inner content area fails-- which color will show then? i.e. I used a dark #color for the outermost and middle layers, so I'm thinking that is a mistake?? See question #4. Here is how the innermost section is set up: /* ===================== inner or centermost layer ---- 3rd color try beige hex #E2DDB5 ======================= */ #inner { margin: 15px auto 15px auto; width: 99%; background-image: url('wbeige_3rd.jpg');/*pinkish*/; padding: 10px; border: 2px ridge #999999; } /* ========================= 7. Lastly, I don't have right background color here: .tblhdr { background-color: #E2DDB5; W3 validator wanted a color there. I just want tables cells to be the same coloring that's in 'wbeige_3rd.jpg' which I used for the content area//innermost layer. Thank you for looking it over and for help with the #colors. Judy

George, I don't use includes. That said, if <!--#include virtual="/00_ssi/banner.htm" --> works on one and not the other then there are two possibilities I can see. 1. You have different directory structures on the two servers. 2. One of the servers is not following standards. What is the path from web root to your calling files and include files in on both servers? Starting with: wwwroot on IE and public_html on rootsweb. I'm don't know that "../" is legitimate in an include. Here is a good writeup on includes: http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/webmaster/article.php/3473341 Jim Rickenbacker ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Waller" <george.a.waller@gmail.com> To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] include virtual vs include file > Hi Glenn, > Thanks for your reply. > > This works on RootsWeb: > <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > This does not work: > <!--#include virtual="/00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > <!--#include file="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > <!--#include virtual="00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > > This works on my local PC web server (IIS7): > <!--#include virtual="/00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > <!--#include file="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > <!--#include virtual="00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > This does not work: > <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > > So, barring inept errors on my part, it seems that the only thing that > works on RootsWeb is the *only* thing that doesn't work on my local > web server. And, what works is not what you said would work :-( > > Jim Rickenbacker... you use RootsWeb and IIS. What works for you? > Others please speak to what works on RootsWeb. > Many thanks! > George

Hi Glenn, Thanks for your reply. This works on RootsWeb: <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> This does not work: <!--#include virtual="/00_ssi/banner.htm" --> <!--#include file="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> <!--#include virtual="00_ssi/banner.htm" --> This works on my local PC web server (IIS7): <!--#include virtual="/00_ssi/banner.htm" --> <!--#include file="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> <!--#include virtual="00_ssi/banner.htm" --> This does not work: <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> So, barring inept errors on my part, it seems that the only thing that works on RootsWeb is the *only* thing that doesn't work on my local web server. And, what works is not what you said would work :-( Jim Rickenbacker... you use RootsWeb and IIS. What works for you? Others please speak to what works on RootsWeb. Many thanks! George On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Glenn Gilbert <ggilbert1@clearwire.net>wrote: > If you use include file, the file must be in the same directory, it looks > like you have a folder for includes, therefore you need to use include > virtual. > > Rootsweb is running Apache on CentOS, CentOS is a unix like operating > system > > see: > http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/webmaster/article.php/3473341#virtual > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:11 PM, George Waller <george.a.waller@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Anyone know why > > > > <!--#include file="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > > > > doesn't work on RootsWeb while > > > > <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > > > > does work? > > > > Not only does my personal PC web server (IIS7) seem to require "file" > > but if I ever move elsewhere it would be nice to know which one is > > preferable. > > > > Help! > > > > Thanks, George > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It depends on where the file calling the include is located... What works on Rootsweb - file calling the include is in root directory <!--#include virtual="includes/footer0b.htm"--> file calling the include is in subdirectory under root <!--#include virtual="../includes/footer0b.htm"--> file calling the include is in a subdirectory of subdirectory under root <!--#include virtual="../../includes/footer0b.htm"--> Repeating Rootsweb is running Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Apache is the web server CentOS is the operating system IIS = Internet Information Server is the web server (a Microsoft product) Windows is the operating system You have to use what works on the Rootsweb server :-( Glenn Gilbert wrote: > It depends on where the file calling the include is located... > > What works on Rootsweb - > file calling the include is in root directory > <!--#include virtual="includes/footer0b.htm"--> > file calling the include is in subdirectory under root > <!--#include virtual="../includes/footer0b.htm"--> > file calling the include is in a subdirectory of subdirectory under root > <!--#include virtual="../../includes/footer0b.htm"--> > > Repeating Rootsweb is running Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) > Apache the web server > CentOS the operating system > > IIS = Internet Information Server the web server > Windows the operating system > > George Waller wrote: >> Hi Glenn, >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> This works on RootsWeb: >> <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> >> This does not work: >> <!--#include virtual="/00_ssi/banner.htm" --> >> <!--#include file="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> >> <!--#include virtual="00_ssi/banner.htm" --> >> >> This works on my local PC web server (IIS7): >> <!--#include virtual="/00_ssi/banner.htm" --> >> <!--#include file="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> >> <!--#include virtual="00_ssi/banner.htm" --> >> This does not work: >> <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> >> >> So, barring inept errors on my part, it seems that the only thing that >> works on RootsWeb is the *only* thing that doesn't work on my local >> web server. And, what works is not what you said would work :-( >> >> Jim Rickenbacker... you use RootsWeb and IIS. What works for you? >> Others please speak to what works on RootsWeb. >> Many thanks! >> George >

Hi all, Anyone know why <!--#include file="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> doesn't work on RootsWeb while <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> does work? Not only does my personal PC web server (IIS7) seem to require "file" but if I ever move elsewhere it would be nice to know which one is preferable. Help! Thanks, George

If you use include file, the file must be in the same directory, it looks like you have a folder for includes, therefore you need to use include virtual. Rootsweb is running Apache on CentOS, CentOS is a unix like operating system see: http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/webmaster/article.php/3473341#virtual On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:11 PM, George Waller <george.a.waller@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi all, > > Anyone know why > > <!--#include file="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > > doesn't work on RootsWeb while > > <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> > > does work? > > Not only does my personal PC web server (IIS7) seem to require "file" > but if I ever move elsewhere it would be nice to know which one is > preferable. > > Help! > > Thanks, George > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I found an answer here: http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/FootnoteFAQContent.htm#TextAfterNotes Jim Rickenbacker ----- Original Message ----- From: <finleyc@sonoma.edu> To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:09 PM Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] generating index following endnotes - problem Does anyone know how to generate a Word index following endnotes? When I try, "insert, reference, index and tables," the "OK" is grayed out. When I tried to insert a page or section break at the end of endnotes, I get a message, "you cannot put section breaks into header, footer, endnote, footnote, etc." I can generate the index after the last chapter and before endnotes and then copy and paste the index after endnotes. But this is going to be a LONG index. Anyone know how to get around this problem? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know how to generate a Word index following endnotes? When I try, “insert, reference, index and tables,” the “OK” is grayed out. When I tried to insert a page or section break at the end of endnotes, I get a message, “you cannot put section breaks into header, footer, endnote, footnote, etc.” I can generate the index after the last chapter and before endnotes and then copy and paste the index after endnotes. But this is going to be a LONG index. Anyone know how to get around this problem?

Thank you Les! This is a new suggestion so I'll be sure to tell them! I don't quite understand what a "node" looks like or what makes it work, but they seem to have considerable trouble with the node at the nearby city that feeds me, downtown in the next city over (about 10 miles from the node). I am also the first drop (on the pole) from the node for my section-- so if I go "out" on service, my whole neighborhood //node area soon follows. The company used to blame local TV stations so one of the TV station engineers told me about amplifiers. Maybe looking at capacitors as you suggest will get to the bottom of this very long, very frustrating issue! Judy On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Lesley L Shockey <lesshockey@wildblue.net>wrote: > This may sound stupid, but really it is not. I would bet that at the > point of the problem they will find a bad capacitor. If builds up a > charge, shuts off, quickly bleeds the charge off and starts working > once again. > > To find it they need a Technician with sensitive hands who can run his > hand over a circuit board and feel the capacitor that is getting hot. > Very few Technicians seem to know how to do this. I learned this > technique many years ago from one of my old computer buddies. > > Les Shockey

This may sound stupid, but really it is not. I would bet that at the point of the problem they will find a bad capacitor. If builds up a charge, shuts off, quickly bleeds the charge off and starts working once again. To find it they need a Technician with sensitive hands who can run his hand over a circuit board and feel the capacitor that is getting hot. Very few Technicians seem to know how to do this. I learned this technique many years ago from one of my old computer buddies. Les Shockey J.A. Florian wrote: > Just an update on today... > > Once again today, they finally SAW some issues at the local node feeding my > area from the next largest city. I have repeated, intermittent packet loss > (sometimes with high power and high flaps) -- this has been going on every > day/week/month for over 5 years! This problem ONLY shows up on their > continuous ping testing (not on quick tests). > > What's weird is, there seems to be a definite pattern, although no one can > decipher why. The pattern is (1) packet loss and loss of service for short > periods of time that ALWAYS hit between quarter to the hour and 10 after the > hour, EVERY hour, so it could show at 6:45a, 7:05a, 7:59a, 8:49a, 9:12a, etc > all day and night and (2) modem's have high power, flaps and packet > loss---leading to total loss of service on FRIDAYS, worsening by 11am..with > total city outages by 3pm Fridays. They get it back up fast but the pattern > is perplexing. I've often suggested that some piece of eqipment from the > local node or going back to Engineering at the "head end" (2 hours away) is > re-setting itself once an hour. (Cable TV also used to shut itself off at > 2am every morning). > > I *have* made numerous complaints. There is no "regulatory body" over > cable/internet, like the FCC does for utilities. I've complained from the > headquarters, to my state's Division head, to the local supervisors, to > Engineers, etc. Engineers have come from the "head end" to my house... I've > got the direct numbers to the local supervisor over the local PM techs that > come to homes; I talk to the local 2nd in command monthly-- often weekly; I > complained to the BBB (which brought more attention than I thought it > would)..... but, alas, the service problems continue! > > So, the bottom line today is, I didn't have to prove (once again) that it's > not my computer, because they finally saw it on the continuous ping testing > and on the node. I fear before I'm done fighting the company, I'll need an > Engineering degree! LOL I sure know more than I ever wanted to know about > how signal travels through wires to translate into pics and sound... and how > computers communicate back and forth during packet transfers! > > The intermittent connection sure makes it hard to upload my websites! > > Thanks for the ideas and letting me vent, too. > > Judy > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Jim Rickenbacker(3) > <j3mr2@borisbrooks.com>wrote: > >> In my experience, cable internet service got better when CC took over from >> TW. Also, in my experience, DSL is way more reliable than cable internet >> if >> you can get DSL. Supposedly it doesn't have the max speed of cable but I >> haven't found it to be noticably slower. My 3 mbps DSL seems about as fast >> as my 6 mbps cable internet and is far more reliable. >> >> This sort of intermittent problem is very difficult to find so you are >> really dependent on getting an experienced cable/internet engineer that >> knows how the whole system works. It's hard to get one of these to work on >> an individual problem since there's usually only one of these for the local >> office or maybe for entire area. What has worked for me in the past is a >> letter of complaint to the local regulatory entity with a copy to the CEO >> of >> the ISP. In my case, this got the attention of local management and the >> assignment of an engineer who found the problem and made sure it was fixed. >> >> Jim Rickenbacker >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just an update on today... Once again today, they finally SAW some issues at the local node feeding my area from the next largest city. I have repeated, intermittent packet loss (sometimes with high power and high flaps) -- this has been going on every day/week/month for over 5 years! This problem ONLY shows up on their continuous ping testing (not on quick tests). What's weird is, there seems to be a definite pattern, although no one can decipher why. The pattern is (1) packet loss and loss of service for short periods of time that ALWAYS hit between quarter to the hour and 10 after the hour, EVERY hour, so it could show at 6:45a, 7:05a, 7:59a, 8:49a, 9:12a, etc all day and night and (2) modem's have high power, flaps and packet loss---leading to total loss of service on FRIDAYS, worsening by 11am..with total city outages by 3pm Fridays. They get it back up fast but the pattern is perplexing. I've often suggested that some piece of eqipment from the local node or going back to Engineering at the "head end" (2 hours away) is re-setting itself once an hour. (Cable TV also used to shut itself off at 2am every morning). I *have* made numerous complaints. There is no "regulatory body" over cable/internet, like the FCC does for utilities. I've complained from the headquarters, to my state's Division head, to the local supervisors, to Engineers, etc. Engineers have come from the "head end" to my house... I've got the direct numbers to the local supervisor over the local PM techs that come to homes; I talk to the local 2nd in command monthly-- often weekly; I complained to the BBB (which brought more attention than I thought it would)..... but, alas, the service problems continue! So, the bottom line today is, I didn't have to prove (once again) that it's not my computer, because they finally saw it on the continuous ping testing and on the node. I fear before I'm done fighting the company, I'll need an Engineering degree! LOL I sure know more than I ever wanted to know about how signal travels through wires to translate into pics and sound... and how computers communicate back and forth during packet transfers! The intermittent connection sure makes it hard to upload my websites! Thanks for the ideas and letting me vent, too. Judy On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Jim Rickenbacker(3) <j3mr2@borisbrooks.com>wrote: > In my experience, cable internet service got better when CC took over from > TW. Also, in my experience, DSL is way more reliable than cable internet > if > you can get DSL. Supposedly it doesn't have the max speed of cable but I > haven't found it to be noticably slower. My 3 mbps DSL seems about as fast > as my 6 mbps cable internet and is far more reliable. > > This sort of intermittent problem is very difficult to find so you are > really dependent on getting an experienced cable/internet engineer that > knows how the whole system works. It's hard to get one of these to work on > an individual problem since there's usually only one of these for the local > office or maybe for entire area. What has worked for me in the past is a > letter of complaint to the local regulatory entity with a copy to the CEO > of > the ISP. In my case, this got the attention of local management and the > assignment of an engineer who found the problem and made sure it was fixed. > > Jim Rickenbacker >

I don't want to get too far afield on this question, but in answer to Jim and Anne, Mine is the "other big ISP" in the USA that had joined with AOL then the 2 companies severed their relationship. It's also the ISP that gets a zillion complaints on Internet Forums if you need to vent. The cable/internet company has: - checked for electrical problems / appliance surges - "noise" in the house and neighborhood - wires in and out, but ampliphiers on the pole keep showing intermittently bad (but it takes the ISP months to find the glitch) - given me every excuse in the book and I've proven each one wrong - we've isolated and "hidden" me so neighbors can't be on my account - the ONLY way the company "sees" the issue is by running continuous ping tests, 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week (and the signal drops out HOURLY) Symptoms - Not just "slow" pages but it literally sits at one "progress bar" when the signal has been dropped -- and if I try F5 then, i'll get the you have no Internet page (see below) - AOL if open says good-bye first (AOL is set to time out like 6-7 secs after the signal has already dropped; but internet Explorer waits longer, like 11 seconds before it stops working after a signal drops) - This means gmail gives me a hint about being dropped-- if open it will report "Chat is not available"-- when the signal comes back, the WE tray notification tells me "Internet Connect, strength Excellent AND gmail - if the drop continues long, then I get IE's "diagnose internet connection" page (i.e. "ya don't have internet access, silly person") - *sometimes* at the same time, TV has audio that sounds like "ha-ba-cha-da-ah-ah-ma"-- cutting in & cutting out, so it sounds like a cell phone instead of TV audio (related to the digital feed problems this cable has intermittently) I saw help articles for how to disable the Windows Notifications but not what each notification implies or shows. I just read John's reply. I knew about doing a single cmd and the ISP told me I could type say ping www.yahoo.com -t The -t is a continuous ping but the results give limited info (secs to return is all) . So I'll try the 2 box method you described to see which side is dropping out first. Thank you for the instructions. I'd like to think that sometime I'll have good 'basic cable' and wireless considering I'm forced to pay $110.00 for the basics! (They aren't charging me for the router cos it's a test.) Judy On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jim Rickenbacker(3) <j3mr2@borisbrooks.com > wrote: > Judy, > > The "balloon notification" only tells about the wireless connection from > your computer to the router. It doesn't tell you about the service. My > notebook also pops up the balloon occasionally. I'm not sure why. Most > likely there was a burst of interferrence (from any number of sources) that > momemtarily disrupted the connection or it may just be reconnecting after a > period of inactivity. If your balloon opens repeatedly throughout the day > you may have an appliance or somethng near you that is causing a periodic > burst of interferrence. > > The best way to check the actual internet service is to look at the cable > modem lights. In general if the "Cable" "Online" and "Power" lights are > steady on the service is connected. If one or more of them are blinking the > service was dropped and is reconnecting. Under normal connected conditions > the "Ethernet" light should be the only one blinking. There may be some > differences depending on the specific modem but most cable modems work this > way. > > Pages loading quickly after a (sometimes very long) delay can have many > causes, including the above. Many of these causes are outside your ISP's > control. Identifying the exact cause may be very difficult. > > Jim Rickenbacker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J.A. Florian" <cageycat@gmail.com> > To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:31 AM > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ISP//Connection question > > > > We all know those "balloon notifications on the Windows Explorer Toolbar. > > For example, one balloon might open to say that you have an Internet > > Connection and the quality of the signal strength. > > > > Well, I want to know the kinds of reasons that a balloon would open to > > tell > > you (repeatedly throughout the day) that you have an Internet Connection > > and > > the quality of the signal strength is excellent. > > > > My ISP and I have been fighting for years about repeated drops of > service. > > I contend that the balloon notification would not continually open to > tell > > me I have an Internet Connection, unless the service drops out and comes > > back (thus, the balloon opens). Am I right? Note this is not the only > > "symptom" of being dropped; the notification is just one reason I know > the > > connection was temporary/intermittently dropped. For example, I can be > > "on" > > a web page and ask to go to a different page...but it doesn't load > fast... > > then, the notification pops open...then the page loads fast or loads if I > > do > > refresh. > > > > I had plain wireless, modem only--- lots of signal problems. They put in > > a > > router with the modem. It hasn't helped much. Therefore, the ISP > > contends > > that "something" must be dropping the signal between the modem and > > computer. Note: I am less than 3 feet from the modem and router. > > Previously, I was 8-10 feet away, direct line of sight (no obstacles), > > with > > the same symptoms occuring. We also tried a hard-wire directly to the > > computer. > > > > I contend it is not a problem with my computer because this is the 4th > > laptop over the past 4 to 6 years, and with each laptop (different > > manufacturers) the intermittent problem has remained the same-- some days > > better, some days worse. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Any ideas for how I can prove to the company that it is their problem/ > > their > > equipment dropping the signal? > > > > Judy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

In my experience, cable internet service got better when CC took over from TW. Also, in my experience, DSL is way more reliable than cable internet if you can get DSL. Supposedly it doesn't have the max speed of cable but I haven't found it to be noticably slower. My 3 mbps DSL seems about as fast as my 6 mbps cable internet and is far more reliable. This sort of intermittent problem is very difficult to find so you are really dependent on getting an experienced cable/internet engineer that knows how the whole system works. It's hard to get one of these to work on an individual problem since there's usually only one of these for the local office or maybe for entire area. What has worked for me in the past is a letter of complaint to the local regulatory entity with a copy to the CEO of the ISP. In my case, this got the attention of local management and the assignment of an engineer who found the problem and made sure it was fixed. Jim Rickenbacker ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.A. Florian" <cageycat@gmail.com> To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ISP//Connection question >I don't want to get too far afield on this question, but in answer to Jim > and Anne, > > Mine is the "other big ISP" in the USA that had joined with AOL then the 2 > companies severed their relationship. It's also the ISP that gets a > zillion > complaints on Internet Forums if you need to vent. > > The cable/internet company has: > - checked for electrical problems / appliance surges > - "noise" in the house and neighborhood > - wires in and out, but ampliphiers on the pole keep showing > intermittently > bad (but it takes the ISP months to find the glitch) > - given me every excuse in the book and I've proven each one wrong > - we've isolated and "hidden" me so neighbors can't be on my account > - the ONLY way the company "sees" the issue is by running continuous ping > tests, 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week (and the signal drops out HOURLY) > > Symptoms > - Not just "slow" pages but it literally sits at one "progress bar" when > the > signal has been dropped -- and if I try F5 then, i'll get the you have no > Internet page (see below) > - AOL if open says good-bye first (AOL is set to time out like 6-7 secs > after the signal has already dropped; but internet Explorer waits longer, > like 11 seconds before it stops working after a signal drops) > - This means gmail gives me a hint about being dropped-- if open it will > report "Chat is not available"-- when the signal comes back, the WE tray > notification tells me "Internet Connect, strength Excellent AND gmail > - if the drop continues long, then I get IE's "diagnose internet > connection" page (i.e. "ya don't have internet access, silly person") > - *sometimes* at the same time, TV has audio that sounds like > "ha-ba-cha-da-ah-ah-ma"-- cutting in & cutting out, so it sounds like a > cell > phone instead of TV audio (related to the digital feed problems this cable > has intermittently) > > > I saw help articles for how to disable the Windows Notifications but not > what each notification implies or shows. > > > I just read John's reply. I knew about doing a single cmd and the ISP > told > me I could type say > ping www.yahoo.com -t The -t is a continuous ping but the results give > limited info (secs to return is all) . So I'll try the 2 box method you > described to see which side is dropping out first. Thank you for the > instructions. > > I'd like to think that sometime I'll have good 'basic cable' and wireless > considering I'm forced to pay $110.00 for the basics! (They aren't > charging > me for the router cos it's a test.) > > Judy

At 12:04 PM 1/15/2010, you wrote: >Then according to Tom and Pat, who said it worked for them, I now >understand that it may be my browser at fault, that other people's work, but >ours doesn't. What browser are you using? Just tried Opera and it works in that browser also Pat

In message <mailman.7744.1263576309.14599.rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com>, rootsweb-help-request@rootsweb.com writes Hi Judy, There's some diagnostics you can try by opening a command prompt (that is start > run and type in cmd A black box will appear. If you type in this black box tracert www.msn.com This will show you how your computer is trying to link to the msn web-site. The first step it shows is how your computer gets to your wireless router and the tcp address is likely to be 192.168.1. something (1 or 254 likeliest. Depending on how you are linked one of the next lines will have something like your isp's name in it somewhere (in my case I have sbcglobal.net). There will be a number like 123.123.123.123 - make a note of this number (this is the tcp address of your ISP's router). If you hit Ctrl and C together this will stop the tracert command. Now do the start > run type in cmd again - so now you have two black boxes. In one type ping -t 192.168.1. Whatever the last number was above This should give you a steady stream of lines that looks like reply from 192.168.1.254 bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=225 In the other black box type in ping -t - and the address of your ISP's router so ping -t 123.123.123.123 (whatever you noted down above). Leave the two CMD boxes open and get on with whatever you want to do until you get a balloon notification. If it's your wireless connection both boxes with have time-out errors. If it is your ISP only the second box will have a time-out error. John > >We all know those "balloon notifications on the Windows Explorer Toolbar. >For example, one balloon might open to say that you have an Internet >Connection and the quality of the signal strength. > >Well, I want to know the kinds of reasons that a balloon would open to tell >you (repeatedly throughout the day) that you have an Internet Connection and >the quality of the signal strength is excellent. > >My ISP and I have been fighting for years about repeated drops of service. >I contend that the balloon notification would not continually open to tell >me I have an Internet Connection, unless the service drops out and comes >back (thus, the balloon opens). Am I right? Note this is not the only >"symptom" of being dropped; the notification is just one reason I know the >connection was temporary/intermittently dropped. For example, I can be "on" >a web page and ask to go to a different page...but it doesn't load fast... >then, the notification pops open...then the page loads fast or loads if I do >refresh. > >I had plain wireless, modem only--- lots of signal problems. They put in a >router with the modem. It hasn't helped much. Therefore, the ISP contends >that "something" must be dropping the signal between the modem and >computer. Note: I am less than 3 feet from the modem and router. >Previously, I was 8-10 feet away, direct line of sight (no obstacles), with >the same symptoms occuring. We also tried a hard-wire directly to the >computer. > >I contend it is not a problem with my computer because this is the 4th >laptop over the past 4 to 6 years, and with each laptop (different >manufacturers) the intermittent problem has remained the same-- some days >better, some days worse. > >Any ideas? > >Any ideas for how I can prove to the company that it is their problem/ their >equipment dropping the signal? > >Judy > > -- John Gibson Chalmers - john@dgnscrn.demon.co.uk Homepages ... http://www.dgnscrn.demon.co.uk/ and ... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~chalmers/

At 12:04 PM 1/15/2010, Nancy Dixon wrote: >I have yet another question. Pat Geary said "That particular page also >needs a title at the top of the page. <TITLE></TITLE> is empty. > >OK, but for what? What is the purpose of the title? It doesn't show up on >the published page. Who uses it? I fill that spot when I think of it, >which isn't always. What you put into that space is what shows at the top of the browser when someone visits your page. http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/tag_title.asp and http://www.highrankings.com/allabouttitles Among other things. pat

Then according to Tom and Pat, who said it worked for them, I now understand that it may be my browser at fault, that other people's work, but ours doesn't. I have yet another question. Pat Geary said "That particular page also needs a title at the top of the page. <TITLE></TITLE> is empty. OK, but for what? What is the purpose of the title? It doesn't show up on the published page. Who uses it? I fill that spot when I think of it, which isn't always. Nan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Geary" <pat@the-gearys.com> To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Anchor-target > At 06:38 AM 1/15/2010, you wrote: >>I thought I understood the concept, but I am still having trouble. >> >> At http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/flintp.htm Melinda Russell is >> highlighted, >>and as intended the viewer can jump to her family at >>http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/russellp.htm#MELINDA%20RUSSELL and even to >>the >>correct page. But "Melinda" is in no way distinguished from the rest of >>the >>text on that page. Perhaps I am asking too much. >> >>Is there a way of highlighting the target, or guiding the cursor to the >>right place in the page, either one, to help the viewer find what he's >>looking for? >> >>Do I just manually color the target each time? Is there a step or a >>character I don't know about? > > > Using Firefox as my default browser clicking Melinda Russell takes me > to the correct place on the page to view her info. Same with IE8. If > you want to distinguish her name on that page yes, you would need to > apply a style or change the color of the font. That particular page > also needs a title at the top of the page. <TITLE></TITLE> is empty. > > Pat > > > > > > ---------- > Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web > We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ > http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ > > Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook > Revised to include EW 3.0 > http://frontpage-to-expression.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>> At http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/flintp.htm Melinda Russell is highlighted, >> and as intended the viewer can jump to her family at >> http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/russellp.htm#MELINDA%20RUSSELL and even to the >> correct page. But "Melinda" is in no way distinguished from the rest of the >> text on that page. Perhaps I am asking too much. >> >> Is there a way of highlighting the target, or guiding the cursor to the >> right place in the page, either one, to help the viewer find what he's >> looking for? >> >> Do I just manually color the target each time? Is there a step or a >> character I don't know about? The target appears at the very top of the screen, in the fist line. So that makes it easy to see, even though it is is no way highlighted. -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyviewinfo.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser Buffalo County NEGenWeb --www.rootsweb.com/~nebuffal/