Respectfully to all: The computer terminology for cookie types is: (1) persistent (2) non-persistent. There is no such thing as good or evil cookies. A persistent cookie can remain on your machine's hard disk collecting information for many years. A non-persistent cookie indeed of session length only. There is nothing wrong with anyone that wants to accept either persistent or non-persistent cookies. My objection about Ancestry is that they force their paid subscribers to allow their computers to be spied upon. For me it does not matter if you spy on me for 5 minutes or 5 years - the principal that Ancestry has invaded my privacy - big brother - holds true. What is especially in bad taste from my perspective is that they would spy on their own customers. When I say it does not matter if they spy on me for 5 minutes or 5 years here is my concern. When I walk into a department store they have every right to observe my activities via cameras or store detectives. That is proper to protect the store's interest and it does not invade my privacy because I do not have to identify myself at the front door. I am an anonymous visitor. This is vastly different than what Ancestry is doing. In order to take advantage of a service that I paid money to Ancestry to provide to me they demand that I accept session cookies. So what? Well their computers can match who I am, name, address, sex, age, etc., with the fact that I logged in. So let's say that lots of subscribers visit their Civil War pension files. Along comes a statistician and says: let's look at our most popular areas in detail via a random sample. So they select at random a number of their customers that they know visited a certain section and they pull their information and pay another company for detailed demographics on you. This would tell them things like what kind of income you have, what kind of neighborhood you live in, what kind of disposable spending level you have and so forth. Ancestry matches this data with the cookie spy data and decides that the market potential for producing a CD-ROM that contains Civil War pension files would be a winner. So they look around in the marketplace and find a company currently producing such a product, they buy them out, change the name on the software to Ancestry and raise the price. Fewer competitors plus they were able to tell from spying on their own customers exactly what the market would be in advance. To me this is a negative result of industry big brother spying and as for me I would rather not give them my money so as to encourage other companies to also spy on my. Cheers, Jason Tracy Jackson wrote: > I thought I'd try to clear up the cookie situation with Ancestry.com that > Jason referred to in his message yesterday. A copy of his message is at the > end of this one. > > Actually there are two types of cookies - "good" and "evil" cookies. > > I have used ancestry.com for the last 6 months with "good" cookies enabled, > and the "evil" cookies disabled, with no problems. I recommend this > approach. > > See below for more details. > > Hope this helps. > Tracy Jackson > > ============================================== > > The "good" cookies are "per session - not stored" which are stored only for > the current session. They go away when you stop your browser. These > cookies are typically used to keep track of what you are doing in a web site > and actually help you. > > The "evil" cookies are "stored on your computer" which last until the > expiration date of the cookie itself, typically a couple of years. The > cookies in themselves are not bad, but companies such as double-click use > this type of cookies to track your surfing habits so they can target ads for > you. That tracking usage is what makes them evil. > > In Internet Explorer 5.5, you can enable the good cookies and disable the > evilcookies. > Here's How: > Open your Internet Explorer browser. > >From the menu bar, select Tools > Internet Options > Security > Click the Custom Level button. > Scroll down to the "Cookies" section. > In the "Cookies" section, there are two items you can set. > In the "Cookies stored on your computer" item, choose Disable. These are the > evil cookies. > In the "Allow per-session cookies (not stored)" item, choose Enable. These > are the good cookies. > Click OK. > Click OK to close the Internet Options window. > > I based these instructions on the instructions in the following web page: > http://websearch.about.com/internet/websearch/library/howto/ht_cookiesie.htm > > As far as I know, Netscape and earlier versions of IE will only allow you to > disable all cookies, without distinction between the good and evil ones. > > For more info on cookies, see: > http://www.websearch.about.com/internet/websearch/library/weekly/aa032100a.h > tm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason M. Canon" <fiatlux@va.prestige.net> > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: Genealogy Forms > > > Until recently I was a happy subscriber to ancestry.com. However, I > turned of > > the capability for Internet web servers to place activity monitoring > cookies on > > my machine and was not able to login as a subscriber without having the > activity > > monitoring cookies turned on. I phoned them and asked if there was any > way to > > use their service without having my Internet activities monitored and was > told > > no. > > Since I consider it an invasion of my privacy for a company to instruct my > > computer to log my Internet activities and have the data ready for reading > > whenever I log into ancestry, regretfully I asked them to terminate my > > subscription. > > > > So my advise, if you are a subscriber, it to beware that when you login > they > > have the ability to read from your computer everything you do on the > Internet. > > Why would they do this? When you login they can match your name, address, > and > > other information with the data they collect about your Internet > activities. > > This information is quite valuable and so long as the majority of people > don't > > understand what they are doing the "spying" is a very good source of > money. > > Every marketers in the country is willing to buy such information. > > > > If you don't believe what I'm saying turn off cookies on your browser and > try to > > login. Their server will tell you that you must have cookies enabled in > order > > to login. "Big Brother" turned out to be corporate America. > > > > Cheers, > > Jason > > > > Linda Simmons wrote: > > > > > Ancestry.com also has genealogy forms available. > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/save/charts/ancchart.htm > > > > > > I thought they had census forms too, but can't seem to locate them at > the > > > moment. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Linda Hughes" <linhughes@home.com> > > > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:00 AM > > > Subject: Re: Genealogy Forms > > > > > > > http://www.ancestrycorner.com/forms.htm > > > > > > > > is where this site has moved to. > > > > Linda Hughes > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sandy Redmond" <slredmond@earthlink.net> > > > > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:33 AM > > > > Subject: Genealogy Forms > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a good web site where you can print off basic > > > > > genealogy forms such as group sheets, ancestor charts, census > abstracts, > > > > > etc? > > > > > > > > > > The Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Genealogy references > > > > > www.genrecords.com by Genealogy Records Service and gives examples > of > > > > > all the wonderful forms available. HOWEVER! You guessed it - the > URL > > > > > is no longer valid. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > > > > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

>Or, if you'd druther, I need the code for a St. Patrick's Day Green. I can >get new-grass green, hunter green, and pastel, but I can't get an Emerald >or Christmas or Irish. :(( Pure green would be 00FF00, but I guess that you want something a bit darker, so try 00CC00 or 009900. The colors are in 2-byte chunks, as: RRGGBB (Red Green Blue.) The browser-safe numbers are 33, 66, 99, CC, and FF. However, since most people have their screens set for more than 256 colors nowadays, you can usually get away with any color that you want to use. If that's not good enough, there's a nice web-based color picker at: http://www.visibone.com/colorlab/ In about 16 different languages, too. Just run your mouse over the colors and read off the code. You can also find a freeware or shareware color program to download -- I seem to remember that there are several available. Try going to download.com or tucows.com and putting "color picker" in the search box. Regards Jim Keebaugh

>A while back (maybe as much as a year ago??) someone posted a link to a >page that shows all the colors and the #rrggbb codes for them. I like <http://www.lynda.com/hexh.html> (or hexv.html), which will display colors by hue and value, respectively. Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org Schenectady County USGenWeb http://www.schenectadyhistory.org

>Can someone tell me if "Rootsweb is "down". I tried to make a few changes >on my site last night and again this morning using my WS_FTP. When I open >it up and try to connect I get the following message: > >"!Can't get "rootsweb" host entry" >"!Connection failed Rootsweb" > >I was able to access the site on the weekend no problem with my WS_FTP. > >Thanks for your help! > >Heather Leighton Waddingham Everything is working fine here. This could be a network problem -- can you see your RootsWeb pages in a browser? Regards Jim Keebaugh

Hi! Just to let you know I fixed my problem ... somehow my setup changed and I was missing part of the Rootsweb address :( Thanks for your help! Heather Leighton Waddingham Campobello Parish Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ My England and Canadian Roots containing 7500 names http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=CDNROOTS&I11.x=26&I11.y=7 email: hwaddingham@yahoo.com

If you are using Norton's Systemworks, they have "Clean Sweep". Use it on daily basis. They will wipe out the bad cookies along with cluttered Internet visited sites' url addresses. It is a quick step. David Tracy Jackson wrote: > > I thought I'd try to clear up the cookie situation with Ancestry.com that > Jason referred to in his message yesterday. A copy of his message is at the > end of this one. > > Actually there are two types of cookies - "good" and "evil" cookies. > > I have used ancestry.com for the last 6 months with "good" cookies enabled, > and the "evil" cookies disabled, with no problems. I recommend this > approach. > > See below for more details. > > Hope this helps. > Tracy Jackson > > ============================================== > > The "good" cookies are "per session - not stored" which are stored only for > the current session. They go away when you stop your browser. These > cookies are typically used to keep track of what you are doing in a web site > and actually help you. > > The "evil" cookies are "stored on your computer" which last until the > expiration date of the cookie itself, typically a couple of years. The > cookies in themselves are not bad, but companies such as double-click use > this type of cookies to track your surfing habits so they can target ads for > you. That tracking usage is what makes them evil. > > In Internet Explorer 5.5, you can enable the good cookies and disable the > evilcookies. > Here's How: > Open your Internet Explorer browser. > >From the menu bar, select Tools > Internet Options > Security > Click the Custom Level button. > Scroll down to the "Cookies" section. > In the "Cookies" section, there are two items you can set. > In the "Cookies stored on your computer" item, choose Disable. These are the > evil cookies. > In the "Allow per-session cookies (not stored)" item, choose Enable. These > are the good cookies. > Click OK. > Click OK to close the Internet Options window. > > I based these instructions on the instructions in the following web page: > http://websearch.about.com/internet/websearch/library/howto/ht_cookiesie.htm > > As far as I know, Netscape and earlier versions of IE will only allow you to > disable all cookies, without distinction between the good and evil ones. > > For more info on cookies, see: > http://www.websearch.about.com/internet/websearch/library/weekly/aa032100a.h > tm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason M. Canon" <fiatlux@va.prestige.net> > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: Genealogy Forms > > > Until recently I was a happy subscriber to ancestry.com. However, I > turned of > > the capability for Internet web servers to place activity monitoring > cookies on > > my machine and was not able to login as a subscriber without having the > activity > > monitoring cookies turned on. I phoned them and asked if there was any > way to > > use their service without having my Internet activities monitored and was > told > > no. > > Since I consider it an invasion of my privacy for a company to instruct my > > computer to log my Internet activities and have the data ready for reading > > whenever I log into ancestry, regretfully I asked them to terminate my > > subscription. > > > > So my advise, if you are a subscriber, it to beware that when you login > they > > have the ability to read from your computer everything you do on the > Internet. > > Why would they do this? When you login they can match your name, address, > and > > other information with the data they collect about your Internet > activities. > > This information is quite valuable and so long as the majority of people > don't > > understand what they are doing the "spying" is a very good source of > money. > > Every marketers in the country is willing to buy such information. > > > > If you don't believe what I'm saying turn off cookies on your browser and > try to > > login. Their server will tell you that you must have cookies enabled in > order > > to login. "Big Brother" turned out to be corporate America. > > > > Cheers, > > Jason > > > > Linda Simmons wrote: > > > > > Ancestry.com also has genealogy forms available. > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/save/charts/ancchart.htm > > > > > > I thought they had census forms too, but can't seem to locate them at > the > > > moment. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Linda Hughes" <linhughes@home.com> > > > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:00 AM > > > Subject: Re: Genealogy Forms > > > > > > > http://www.ancestrycorner.com/forms.htm > > > > > > > > is where this site has moved to. > > > > Linda Hughes > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sandy Redmond" <slredmond@earthlink.net> > > > > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:33 AM > > > > Subject: Genealogy Forms > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a good web site where you can print off basic > > > > > genealogy forms such as group sheets, ancestor charts, census > abstracts, > > > > > etc? > > > > > > > > > > The Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Genealogy references > > > > > www.genrecords.com by Genealogy Records Service and gives examples > of > > > > > all the wonderful forms available. HOWEVER! You guessed it - the > URL > > > > > is no longer valid. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > > > > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

Hi! Can someone tell me if "Rootsweb is "down". I tried to make a few changes on my site last night and again this morning using my WS_FTP. When I open it up and try to connect I get the following message: "!Can't get "rootsweb" host entry" "!Connection failed Rootsweb" I was able to access the site on the weekend no problem with my WS_FTP. Thanks for your help! Heather Leighton Waddingham Campobello Parish Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ My England and Canadian Roots containing 7500 names http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=CDNROOTS&I11.x=26&I11.y=7 email: hwaddingham@yahoo.com

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A while back (maybe as much as a year ago??) someone posted a link to a page that shows all the colors and the #rrggbb codes for them. The computer ate my bookmark file, and the one I could find to restore was obviously prior to the post. :( Anyone remember the URL? Or, if you'd druther, I need the code for a St. Patrick's Day Green. I can get new-grass green, hunter green, and pastel, but I can't get an Emerald or Christmas or Irish. :(( Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://www.capaccess.org/com/troop763 http://www.fortunecity.com/millennium/blyton/772/ (DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (UDC)

I thought I'd try to clear up the cookie situation with Ancestry.com that Jason referred to in his message yesterday. A copy of his message is at the end of this one. Actually there are two types of cookies - "good" and "evil" cookies. I have used ancestry.com for the last 6 months with "good" cookies enabled, and the "evil" cookies disabled, with no problems. I recommend this approach. See below for more details. Hope this helps. Tracy Jackson ============================================== The "good" cookies are "per session - not stored" which are stored only for the current session. They go away when you stop your browser. These cookies are typically used to keep track of what you are doing in a web site and actually help you. The "evil" cookies are "stored on your computer" which last until the expiration date of the cookie itself, typically a couple of years. The cookies in themselves are not bad, but companies such as double-click use this type of cookies to track your surfing habits so they can target ads for you. That tracking usage is what makes them evil. In Internet Explorer 5.5, you can enable the good cookies and disable the evilcookies. Here's How: Open your Internet Explorer browser. From the menu bar, select Tools > Internet Options > Security Click the Custom Level button. Scroll down to the "Cookies" section. In the "Cookies" section, there are two items you can set. In the "Cookies stored on your computer" item, choose Disable. These are the evil cookies. In the "Allow per-session cookies (not stored)" item, choose Enable. These are the good cookies. Click OK. Click OK to close the Internet Options window. I based these instructions on the instructions in the following web page: http://websearch.about.com/internet/websearch/library/howto/ht_cookiesie.htm As far as I know, Netscape and earlier versions of IE will only allow you to disable all cookies, without distinction between the good and evil ones. For more info on cookies, see: http://www.websearch.about.com/internet/websearch/library/weekly/aa032100a.h tm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason M. Canon" <fiatlux@va.prestige.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:12 AM Subject: Re: Genealogy Forms > Until recently I was a happy subscriber to ancestry.com. However, I turned of > the capability for Internet web servers to place activity monitoring cookies on > my machine and was not able to login as a subscriber without having the activity > monitoring cookies turned on. I phoned them and asked if there was any way to > use their service without having my Internet activities monitored and was told > no. > Since I consider it an invasion of my privacy for a company to instruct my > computer to log my Internet activities and have the data ready for reading > whenever I log into ancestry, regretfully I asked them to terminate my > subscription. > > So my advise, if you are a subscriber, it to beware that when you login they > have the ability to read from your computer everything you do on the Internet. > Why would they do this? When you login they can match your name, address, and > other information with the data they collect about your Internet activities. > This information is quite valuable and so long as the majority of people don't > understand what they are doing the "spying" is a very good source of money. > Every marketers in the country is willing to buy such information. > > If you don't believe what I'm saying turn off cookies on your browser and try to > login. Their server will tell you that you must have cookies enabled in order > to login. "Big Brother" turned out to be corporate America. > > Cheers, > Jason > > Linda Simmons wrote: > > > Ancestry.com also has genealogy forms available. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/save/charts/ancchart.htm > > > > I thought they had census forms too, but can't seem to locate them at the > > moment. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Hughes" <linhughes@home.com> > > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:00 AM > > Subject: Re: Genealogy Forms > > > > > http://www.ancestrycorner.com/forms.htm > > > > > > is where this site has moved to. > > > Linda Hughes > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sandy Redmond" <slredmond@earthlink.net> > > > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:33 AM > > > Subject: Genealogy Forms > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a good web site where you can print off basic > > > > genealogy forms such as group sheets, ancestor charts, census abstracts, > > > > etc? > > > > > > > > The Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Genealogy references > > > > www.genrecords.com by Genealogy Records Service and gives examples of > > > > all the wonderful forms available. HOWEVER! You guessed it - the URL > > > > is no longer valid. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

http://www.ancestrycorner.com/forms.htm is where this site has moved to. Linda Hughes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Redmond" <slredmond@earthlink.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:33 AM Subject: Genealogy Forms > Does anyone know of a good web site where you can print off basic > genealogy forms such as group sheets, ancestor charts, census abstracts, > etc? > > The Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Genealogy references > www.genrecords.com by Genealogy Records Service and gives examples of > all the wonderful forms available. HOWEVER! You guessed it - the URL > is no longer valid. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Sandy > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Does anyone know of a good web site where you can print off basic genealogy forms such as group sheets, ancestor charts, census abstracts, etc? The Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Genealogy references www.genrecords.com by Genealogy Records Service and gives examples of all the wonderful forms available. HOWEVER! You guessed it - the URL is no longer valid. Any ideas? Thanks, Sandy

I would like help with saving and upload the web site I made with Microsoft Publisher 2000. It is for the USGENWeb Project - Maine. I have a directory to from rootsweb to upload it too. I did up load something but it is pieces of the site like colors and gifts. I believe that I am saving it wrong when the Microsoft wizard asks me to fill in some infomation. Thank you, Deb Tajmajer

Cancel RootsWeb-Help-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > RootsWeb-Help-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 4 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Missed messages [Jane Goodsell <goodsell@pilot.infi] > #2 Re: Missed messages [JYoung6180@aol.com] > #3 Re: Missed messages [Jane Goodsell <goodsell@pilot.infi] > #4 Re: Missed messages ["W. David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubc] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from RootsWeb-Help-D, send a message to > > RootsWeb-Help-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Missed messages > Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 14:09:26 -0500 > From: Jane Goodsell <goodsell@pilot.infi.net> > To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello to all! > > I have a lady on my mailing list who says that she is not getting > all of the messages being sent to the group. She caught this when an > answer came in to a prior post she had not received. This has been > going on since before Christmas. I sent a message out to every one on > the list to see if they had noticed a problem, but I did not receive any > replies. This lady has aol, but so do several others on the list, then > why just her?? > > Any help is greatly appreciated to end this ladies lamented > suffering!! > > Jane Goodsell > Mathews Co. Mailing List > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Missed messages > Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:50:10 EST > From: JYoung6180@aol.com > To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com > > In a message dated 1/6/01 1:59:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, > goodsell@pilot.infi.net writes: > > > Hello to all! > > > > I have a lady on my mailing list who says that she is not getting > > all of the messages being sent to the group. She caught this when an > > answer came in to a prior post she had not received. This has been > > going on since before Christmas. I sent a message out to every one on > > the list to see if they had noticed a problem, but I did not receive any > > replies. This lady has aol, but so do several others on the list, then > > why just her?? > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated to end this ladies lamented > > suffering!! > > > Hi, Jane- > > This question would really have been better addressed to Listowners-L where > lots of experienced list admins would be able to comment, but I'll give you > my thoughts on this type situation. > > Anytime you have one list subscriber, properly subscribed, who is claiming > non-receipt of only SOME of the list messages the causes and solutions are > probably among the following reasons: > > 1) the original messages weren't sent to the list, they were sent privately, > and then the reply was posted to the list -- which serves to confuse and make > list members think they have not received all messages. The solution here is > to look in the threaded archives to piece together the messages that actually > were posted to the list and those that must have been sent privately. > > 2) intermittent problems with mail delivery to the list member's ISP > resulting in bounces or delayed receipt of mail. In these cases the solution > is to contact tech support at the ISP in question. > > 3) the list subscriber has filters in place to either block mail from a > particular list member who sent the 'missing' messages or is filtering that > person's mail into a folder where they aren't finding it. The solution here > is to check all folders and check mail program settings. (This won't be the > problem for your AOL subscriber though -- unless this subscriber has mail > from this email address blocked in her mail controls.) > > Joan > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Missed messages > Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 18:02:34 -0500 > From: Jane Goodsell <goodsell@pilot.infi.net> > To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com > > Donna and Joan: > > Thanks for the info you gave me. I have passed your > answers/suggestions on to the lady for her to read. It will give her > something to do!! Joan, I realize now I should have gone to > Listowners-L, but I am also a CC and just clicked on the wrong address. > > Thanks again, > > Jane G. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Missed messages > Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 19:17:00 -0700 > From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> > To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com > > and you forgot two more.... Interactive search and webtreaded search > of archived messages. > > David > > JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 1/6/01 1:59:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > goodsell@pilot.infi.net writes: > > > > > Hello to all! > > > > > > I have a lady on my mailing list who says that she is not getting > > > all of the messages being sent to the group. She caught this when an > > > answer came in to a prior post she had not received. This has been > > > going on since before Christmas. I sent a message out to every one on > > > the list to see if they had noticed a problem, but I did not receive any > > > replies. This lady has aol, but so do several others on the list, then > > > why just her?? > > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated to end this ladies lamented > > > suffering!! > > > > > Hi, Jane- > > > > This question would really have been better addressed to Listowners-L where > > lots of experienced list admins would be able to comment, but I'll give you > > my thoughts on this type situation. > > > > Anytime you have one list subscriber, properly subscribed, who is claiming > > non-receipt of only SOME of the list messages the causes and solutions are > > probably among the following reasons: > > > > 1) the original messages weren't sent to the list, they were sent privately, > > and then the reply was posted to the list -- which serves to confuse and make > > list members think they have not received all messages. The solution here is > > to look in the threaded archives to piece together the messages that actually > > were posted to the list and those that must have been sent privately. > > > > 2) intermittent problems with mail delivery to the list member's ISP > > resulting in bounces or delayed receipt of mail. In these cases the solution > > is to contact tech support at the ISP in question. > > > > 3) the list subscriber has filters in place to either block mail from a > > particular list member who sent the 'missing' messages or is filtering that > > person's mail into a folder where they aren't finding it. The solution here > > is to check all folders and check mail program settings. (This won't be the > > problem for your AOL subscriber though -- unless this subscriber has mail > > from this email address blocked in her mail controls.) > > > > Joan > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hello Jane, I'm glad you posted your message here. I have had this problem on at least two lists that I subscribe to. One of them is this very list. I replied to several messages and they never showed up and were not bounced. I do not have AOL, I did not respond directly to the person, and the replies were in plain text format. It also happened on one of the County lists (Missouri) that I subscribe to. The replies to the messages were being distributed hours before the originals and in some cases I never received the originals at all. When I posted a message to that list asking if anybody else had this problem there was only one reply confirming this problem. It did start sometime before Christmas and I attributed it to the Holiday gremlins as I haven't noticed anything unusual lately. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Goodsell" <goodsell@pilot.infi.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: Re: Missed messages > Donna and Joan: > > Thanks for the info you gave me. I have passed your > answers/suggestions on to the lady for her to read. It will give her > something to do!! Joan, I realize now I should have gone to > Listowners-L, but I am also a CC and just clicked on the wrong address. > > Thanks again, > > Jane G. > > ______________________________

and you forgot two more.... Interactive search and webtreaded search of archived messages. David JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/6/01 1:59:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, > goodsell@pilot.infi.net writes: > > > Hello to all! > > > > I have a lady on my mailing list who says that she is not getting > > all of the messages being sent to the group. She caught this when an > > answer came in to a prior post she had not received. This has been > > going on since before Christmas. I sent a message out to every one on > > the list to see if they had noticed a problem, but I did not receive any > > replies. This lady has aol, but so do several others on the list, then > > why just her?? > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated to end this ladies lamented > > suffering!! > > > Hi, Jane- > > This question would really have been better addressed to Listowners-L where > lots of experienced list admins would be able to comment, but I'll give you > my thoughts on this type situation. > > Anytime you have one list subscriber, properly subscribed, who is claiming > non-receipt of only SOME of the list messages the causes and solutions are > probably among the following reasons: > > 1) the original messages weren't sent to the list, they were sent privately, > and then the reply was posted to the list -- which serves to confuse and make > list members think they have not received all messages. The solution here is > to look in the threaded archives to piece together the messages that actually > were posted to the list and those that must have been sent privately. > > 2) intermittent problems with mail delivery to the list member's ISP > resulting in bounces or delayed receipt of mail. In these cases the solution > is to contact tech support at the ISP in question. > > 3) the list subscriber has filters in place to either block mail from a > particular list member who sent the 'missing' messages or is filtering that > person's mail into a folder where they aren't finding it. The solution here > is to check all folders and check mail program settings. (This won't be the > problem for your AOL subscriber though -- unless this subscriber has mail > from this email address blocked in her mail controls.) > > Joan > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Donna and Joan: Thanks for the info you gave me. I have passed your answers/suggestions on to the lady for her to read. It will give her something to do!! Joan, I realize now I should have gone to Listowners-L, but I am also a CC and just clicked on the wrong address. Thanks again, Jane G.

Hello to all! I have a lady on my mailing list who says that she is not getting all of the messages being sent to the group. She caught this when an answer came in to a prior post she had not received. This has been going on since before Christmas. I sent a message out to every one on the list to see if they had noticed a problem, but I did not receive any replies. This lady has aol, but so do several others on the list, then why just her?? Any help is greatly appreciated to end this ladies lamented suffering!! Jane Goodsell Mathews Co. Mailing List

In a message dated 1/6/01 1:59:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, goodsell@pilot.infi.net writes: > Hello to all! > > I have a lady on my mailing list who says that she is not getting > all of the messages being sent to the group. She caught this when an > answer came in to a prior post she had not received. This has been > going on since before Christmas. I sent a message out to every one on > the list to see if they had noticed a problem, but I did not receive any > replies. This lady has aol, but so do several others on the list, then > why just her?? > > Any help is greatly appreciated to end this ladies lamented > suffering!! > Hi, Jane- This question would really have been better addressed to Listowners-L where lots of experienced list admins would be able to comment, but I'll give you my thoughts on this type situation. Anytime you have one list subscriber, properly subscribed, who is claiming non-receipt of only SOME of the list messages the causes and solutions are probably among the following reasons: 1) the original messages weren't sent to the list, they were sent privately, and then the reply was posted to the list -- which serves to confuse and make list members think they have not received all messages. The solution here is to look in the threaded archives to piece together the messages that actually were posted to the list and those that must have been sent privately. 2) intermittent problems with mail delivery to the list member's ISP resulting in bounces or delayed receipt of mail. In these cases the solution is to contact tech support at the ISP in question. 3) the list subscriber has filters in place to either block mail from a particular list member who sent the 'missing' messages or is filtering that person's mail into a folder where they aren't finding it. The solution here is to check all folders and check mail program settings. (This won't be the problem for your AOL subscriber though -- unless this subscriber has mail from this email address blocked in her mail controls.) Joan