I am attempting to write an article (essay, short story, whatever it turns out to be) about an episode in my genealogical research journey. In this writing, I will talk about the help of others during the process. I am not sure about using their names in this. Is there a legal precedent about this out there? Need I contact people that helped me to ask their permission to write about this? Or if they are not actually mentioned in it or I refer to them vaguely or anonymously? Thanks for any input. You can reply directly to me (and 'cc" the list) if you wish--I get the digest version of the list and wouldn't hear from you until tomorrow. Maggee Smith moconqrr@aol.com

----- Original Message ----- From: <RootsWeb-Help-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: RootsWeb-Help-D Digest V01 #5

Janette, are you looking for a Davidson LIST (Davidson-L), or a list of Davidsons? Finding lists is easy -- just go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/ As far as finding a list of Davidsons in Dumfriesshire, there are a number of things you might investigate -- http://searches.rootsweb.com/ is a good overview of the various search engines at Rootsweb. Also, you would want to check out World GenWeb-Scotland, GenUK&I, and Cyndislist-Dumfriesshire. http://www.worldgenweb.org/ http://www.embra.force9.co.uk/genuki/DFS/ Good luck in your research, Valorie SARANAL@aol.com wrote: > > I found a great list of Davidsons from Dumfriesshire on Rootsweb last year > but have been unable to find it since. Can you help please? > Janette

Here is the minor information: Bought a new computer & transferred everything over. Using Front Page 2000 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Web Site #1 is newest and was not on older computer. Using Front Page WS-FTP95 LE Local System: C:\Program Files\WS-FTP Remote System: public_html Profile Name: My Homepage Host Name: users.rootsweb.com Host Type: Automatic detect User ID: cancgs Password:xxxxxxxx In FrontPage I am publishing to: file:///C:/Program Files/WS-FTP Now, this whole set up is working fine! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is the problem I have had this site up for a year, but recently transferred it to new computer. Also using Front Page 2000 WS_FTP95 LE FTP Host Name: users.freepages.rootsweb.com User ID: historic Password: xxxxxxxx In the remote directory I click on: genealogy_html Now in FrontPage 2000 I am publishing to: file///C:/Program Files/WS_FTP/historic After I click on genealogy_html, in the remote system of WS_FTP95 LE, I find that it has all gone into the remote system on the right hand side and not to the Local System on the left. In fact. I tried to make a new directory, but to no avail. The entire list from the other web site is in view all the time on the left. I keep going over all sorts of instruction, etc. and now have my shoe in hand ready to throw at the monitor. I have working on this situation for weeks. I give up. Is there some very kind soul who can help me with this in the simplest of terms? I have worked to hard on this site and have many more updates for it. 3200 pictures and over 1600 pages is not exactly what I want to throw away. Karen Dyer nchistoric@onemain.com ~~~~ Historic Cemeteries of Nevada County http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~historic/ ~~~~ Nevada County Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~cancgs/

I found a great list of Davidsons from Dumfriesshire on Rootsweb last year but have been unable to find it since. Can you help please? Janette

I've been looking among the Rootsweb FAQs for some guidance on filename lengths. Up to now I've been sticking with 8 dot 3, all lowercase. I will continue to stick with lower case, but would really like to use longer file names for pages, jpegs etc. so it's a little easier to tell what those files are. Can someone tell me the practical limits for filenames on the rootsweb servers or point me to a help page on this subject? Thanks Jim Gill webmaster, Catlin Historical Society, www.rootsweb.com/~ilchs _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Is cgi.rootsweb.com very very sick? Pulled up the board - instantly, ok pulled up specific message to correct - instantly, ok post correction/change - what? 7 minutes for server to respond? This has bee like that last few days. Even with new biographies I posted this morning, long wait to respond that it has been posted. is the server very sick? the last one said CPU 2.07 seconds but... It used to be that it was pretty quick within a minute. W. David Samuelsen

In a message dated 1/20/01 12:56:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, dsam@sampubco.com writes: > Tonight I couldn't get to any board on GenConnect system to post > biographies. > > I get the server error. Is there a major problem since this is first > time I know of that this bad? David- Should be fixed now. Joan

Tonight I couldn't get to any board on GenConnect system to post biographies. I get the server error. Is there a major problem since this is first time I know of that this bad? David

From: "Al Covell" <yooper@theriver.com> > For some time now my web page has been unavailable. I'm pasting below a > suggestion from Betsy at Rootsweb. BTW, the correct address for my page is > www.homepages.rootsweb.com/~agcovell/covell2.html not www.w3--------- Actually, the correct address for your page is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~agcovell/covell.html No www, and it is covell.html instead of covell2.html. If you rename it index.html, you can shorten your URL to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~agcovell/ -- Pat Asher Ambrose Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pasher Help for beginning Web Authors http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher

Al, The url is written wrong. The correct url should be: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~agcovell/covell.html There is no www in front of the homepages.rootsweb.com part of the address. Your page is there but the images on the page are not loading. Your link is calling out the directory, Graphics, correctly but a look into your directory shows that all your image files are in lower case. You need to modify all the graphic links on your main page to show the image file names in lowercase. That should solve your problem! Best Wishes, Carol Hepburn chepburn@uswest.net Phoenix, AZ USA

For some time now my web page has been unavailable. I'm pasting below a suggestion from Betsy at Rootsweb. BTW, the correct address for my page is www.homepages.rootsweb.com/~agcovell/covell2.html not www.w3--------- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Al, it is something wrong with the coding. That page is nothing but <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:of fic e:office"xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"xmlns="http://www.w3 .org/TR/R EC-html40" xmlns:v="urn:schema over and over and over. Also, you uploaded 2 directories outside the public_html directory again. You may want to get with the folks on the RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com mailing list and ask for some help there. Some of those folks use FrontPage and may be able to help. Betsy Al---check http://www.up.net/~acovell/covell.html

The URI (URL is a deprecated term) provided does not contain a "live" streaming video "camera" of Pine Mountain (as implied below) but it does provide a number of quite beautiful "still photographs," which are updated hourly. So far as the reply regarding my Ancestry disaster recovery and mirrored server operations text, the comments back do not reflect an understanding of anything that I said on the topic. Cheers "W. David Samuelsen" wrote: > Leverich's reply is exact what I expected to the immediate concern. > > Pine Mountain community is way up in the mountains and nested. > > http://www.frazmtn.com/pmcwebcam/last24hrs_pmc_mtpinos.html > > live camera showing the town. (I saved the url. A look tell you > why) > > By the way Ancestry.com is located in Provo, Utah . As for > mirroed site - I don't know, considering thousands of sites being > maintained independently that can be instantly mirrored by Rootsweb. > That's something the RW techs will have to answer. > > David > > "Jason M. Canon" wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I was a bit surprised by the answer to the question so my hope is that further > > clarification will help. The original question did specifically ask about > > Ancestry provisions in a manner that "assumed" a particular solution; namely > > backup power generators so it is understandable that the response only addressed > > the question. My "expectation" however was that Rootsweb had planned for any > > type of west coast disaster by having east coast, and perhaps even Canadian > > based, mirror image servers that automatically detect outages and notify > > operations to exercise alternative routing actions. IMNSHO mirrored servers are > > a much more complete, and actually less expensive alternative, to having massive > > power generators installed. So my hope is that the answer given is only a > > partial answer directed specifically to the question and is not actually > > representative of Rootsweb disaster planning and recovery. > > > > Cheers > > > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1

Greetings, I was a bit surprised by the answer to the question so my hope is that further clarification will help. The original question did specifically ask about Ancestry provisions in a manner that "assumed" a particular solution; namely backup power generators so it is understandable that the response only addressed the question. My "expectation" however was that Rootsweb had planned for any type of west coast disaster by having east coast, and perhaps even Canadian based, mirror image servers that automatically detect outages and notify operations to exercise alternative routing actions. IMNSHO mirrored servers are a much more complete, and actually less expensive alternative, to having massive power generators installed. So my hope is that the answer given is only a partial answer directed specifically to the question and is not actually representative of Rootsweb disaster planning and recovery. Cheers "Dr. Brian Leverich" wrote: > -- Your message was: (from ""W. David Samuelsen"") > > > Don't know of any other list where I can ask this question since > > it involve all aspects of Rootsweb. > > > > Does Rootsweb has the backup power generators to carry through > > in case of rolling blackouts reaching Pine Mountain as well as > > the other locations of Rootsweb's servers?? > > > > W. David Samuelsen > > ------------------ > > We have battery backups and redundant generators to cover Pine > Mountain. > > We have *huge* battery reserves in Bakersfield. > > In both cases our power feeds are protected by top-of-the-line S.L. > Waber power conditioners, which should prevent us from suffering any > damage due to transients as the power goes down and comes back up. > > I do not expect the rolling blackouts to have any impact at all on > RootsWeb. Cheers, B. > > -- > Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L > P.O. Box 6831, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6831 leverich@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp

Leverich's reply is exact what I expected to the immediate concern. Pine Mountain community is way up in the mountains and nested. http://www.frazmtn.com/pmcwebcam/last24hrs_pmc_mtpinos.html live camera showing the town. (I saved the url. A look tell you why) By the way Ancestry.com is located in Provo, Utah . As for mirroed site - I don't know, considering thousands of sites being maintained independently that can be instantly mirrored by Rootsweb. That's something the RW techs will have to answer. David "Jason M. Canon" wrote: > > Greetings, > > I was a bit surprised by the answer to the question so my hope is that further > clarification will help. The original question did specifically ask about > Ancestry provisions in a manner that "assumed" a particular solution; namely > backup power generators so it is understandable that the response only addressed > the question. My "expectation" however was that Rootsweb had planned for any > type of west coast disaster by having east coast, and perhaps even Canadian > based, mirror image servers that automatically detect outages and notify > operations to exercise alternative routing actions. IMNSHO mirrored servers are > a much more complete, and actually less expensive alternative, to having massive > power generators installed. So my hope is that the answer given is only a > partial answer directed specifically to the question and is not actually > representative of Rootsweb disaster planning and recovery. > > Cheers >

-- Your message was: (from ""W. David Samuelsen"") > Don't know of any other list where I can ask this question since > it involve all aspects of Rootsweb. > > Does Rootsweb has the backup power generators to carry through > in case of rolling blackouts reaching Pine Mountain as well as > the other locations of Rootsweb's servers?? > > W. David Samuelsen ------------------ We have battery backups and redundant generators to cover Pine Mountain. We have *huge* battery reserves in Bakersfield. In both cases our power feeds are protected by top-of-the-line S.L. Waber power conditioners, which should prevent us from suffering any damage due to transients as the power goes down and comes back up. I do not expect the rolling blackouts to have any impact at all on RootsWeb. Cheers, B. -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L P.O. Box 6831, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6831 leverich@rootsweb.com

Hi, I went to my website I have on rootsweb. The initial page shows up as do the surnames and index pages but when I try to access a name (any name), I get the following message or something similar: The requested URL /~pmeinert/WC_IDX/..\..\..\..\~pmeinert\WC_IDX\IDX001.htm was not found on this server. Can anybody tell me what happened to my website??? Paula Meinert

Rest assured I have gotten your email and will do my best to be of assistance. I am the coordinator for 12 counties for the USGenWeb Project and State Coordinator American Local History Network. Your email IS important to me and I will respond in a few days. Please note: if you submitted your surname for one of the counties, I update the surnames pages usually 1 or 2 times per month. Thank you....Ray Ensing USGenWebProject and ALHN. -------------------- Original Message: From rootsweb-help-d-request@rootsweb.com Fri Jan 19 01:44:43 2001 Return-Path: <rootsweb-help-d-request@rootsweb.com> X-Track: 1: 40 Received: from lists8.rootsweb.com (EHLO lists2.rootsweb.com) (63.92.80.32) by mta123.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 17:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f0J1heh30704; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:43:40 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:43:40 -0800 Message-Id: <200101190143.f0J1heh30704@lists2.rootsweb.com> From: RootsWeb-Help-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: RootsWeb-Help-D Digest V01 #2 X-Loop: RootsWeb-Help-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <RootsWeb-Help-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume01/2 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: RootsWeb-Help-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain RootsWeb-Help-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 2 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Co _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Don't know of any other list where I can ask this question since it involve all aspects of Rootsweb. Does Rootsweb has the backup power generators to carry through in case of rolling blackouts reaching Pine Mountain as well as the other locations of Rootsweb's servers?? W. David Samuelsen

I've been interested in the discussion concerning cookies, so I did a little experimenting. First, disabling the "Cookies stored on your computer" (the evil cookies) does not delete the cookies that were created prior to that point. I did that (I think) by deleting the files in c:\windows\cookies. There is an index.dat file in that directory which I could not delete (some application apparently had it open). I restarted in DOS and looked at the file with Edit. It appears to be a database of the cookies on the computer. In DOS I could delete it and did. When I restarted Windows and IE, the index.dat file was recreated. I think the help file in IE may be a little misleading. One of the things it says about cookies is "only the site that created the cookie can read it." However, if you delete all your cookies and then enable the presistent cookies, you will find that Ancestry.com creates more than one cookie. In my case, it created four. One had the Ancestry name on it. One had "double-click", which as Jason pointed out, is a company that tracks web surfing. Another was for an advertiser whose banner was displayed. Another I couldn't trace. What I was wondering about was if I clicked on the banner and went to the advertiser's web site, could that advertiser open the cookie Ancestry created? It doesn't really matter. If Ancestry harvests the data from the cookies, Ancestry can then supply that data to anyone who pays for it. If a site harvests the data from its cookies as you surf, disabling the evil cookies does not stop the harvesting. Stopping the good cookies would stop that kind of activity, but you can't sign on to Ancestry's site with all cookies disabled. Which means to me that the data is worth more to them than the membership fees. I disagree with Jason's assumption that the data would necessarily be used to the users' disadvantage. Perhaps noting interest in the Civil War records would prompt Ancestry to add more Civil War records in order to attract more users. There is another down side to disabling the persistent/evil cookies. Some preferences that you set on some websites are kept in those cookies. For example, I like to listen to radio stations over the internet. On the WindowsMedia.com radio tuner, you can set your favorites to go back to them easily. My favorites are now gone because I killed the cookies. I think because we access the internet from our homes, or the privacy of our cubicles, the internet can appear to be a private space. But it isn't. It is more like the department store that Jason describes. It is a _very_ public place. I think anyone who ventures onto the internet should expect to be observed. Technology makes it too easy. And if you spend too much time browsing the women's lingerie section, someone will take note of it. Also, businesses have been collecting and exchanging data about us for a long time. That didn't start with the internet. (Using Ancestry as an example in this message does not mean I think they use this technology more or less than any other website on the internet.) On balance, I guess I will turn all the cookies back on. That doesn't mean I won't delete them on occasion (perhaps not deleting my radio tuner one). Jim Gill ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Jackson <tracypj@jps.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 4:34 PM Subject: Cookies - Ancestry.com > I thought I'd try to clear up the cookie situation with Ancestry.com that > Jason referred to in his message yesterday. A copy of his message is at the > end of this one. > > Actually there are two types of cookies - "good" and "evil" cookies. > > I have used ancestry.com for the last 6 months with "good" cookies enabled, > and the "evil" cookies disabled, with no problems. I recommend this > approach. > > See below for more details. > > Hope this helps. > Tracy Jackson > > ============================================== > > The "good" cookies are "per session - not stored" which are stored only for > the current session. They go away when you stop your browser. These > cookies are typically used to keep track of what you are doing in a web site > and actually help you. > > The "evil" cookies are "stored on your computer" which last until the > expiration date of the cookie itself, typically a couple of years. The > cookies in themselves are not bad, but companies such as double-click use > this type of cookies to track your surfing habits so they can target ads for > you. That tracking usage is what makes them evil. > > In Internet Explorer 5.5, you can enable the good cookies and disable the > evilcookies. > Here's How: > Open your Internet Explorer browser. > From the menu bar, select Tools > Internet Options > Security > Click the Custom Level button. > Scroll down to the "Cookies" section. > In the "Cookies" section, there are two items you can set. > In the "Cookies stored on your computer" item, choose Disable. These are the > evil cookies. > In the "Allow per-session cookies (not stored)" item, choose Enable. These > are the good cookies. > Click OK. > Click OK to close the Internet Options window. > > I based these instructions on the instructions in the following web page: > http://websearch.about.com/internet/websearch/library/howto/ht_cookiesie.htm > > As far as I know, Netscape and earlier versions of IE will only allow you to > disable all cookies, without distinction between the good and evil ones. > > For more info on cookies, see: > http://www.websearch.about.com/internet/websearch/library/weekly/aa032100a.h > tm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason M. Canon" <fiatlux@va.prestige.net> > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: Genealogy Forms > > > > Until recently I was a happy subscriber to ancestry.com. However, I > turned of > > the capability for Internet web servers to place activity monitoring > cookies on > > my machine and was not able to login as a subscriber without having the > activity > > monitoring cookies turned on. I phoned them and asked if there was any > way to > > use their service without having my Internet activities monitored and was > told > > no. > > Since I consider it an invasion of my privacy for a company to instruct my > > computer to log my Internet activities and have the data ready for reading > > whenever I log into ancestry, regretfully I asked them to terminate my > > subscription. > > > > So my advise, if you are a subscriber, it to beware that when you login > they > > have the ability to read from your computer everything you do on the > Internet. > > Why would they do this? When you login they can match your name, address, > and > > other information with the data they collect about your Internet > activities. > > This information is quite valuable and so long as the majority of people > don't > > understand what they are doing the "spying" is a very good source of > money. > > Every marketers in the country is willing to buy such information. > > > > If you don't believe what I'm saying turn off cookies on your browser and > try to > > login. Their server will tell you that you must have cookies enabled in > order > > to login. "Big Brother" turned out to be corporate America. > > > > Cheers, > > Jason > > > > Linda Simmons wrote: > > > > > Ancestry.com also has genealogy forms available. > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/save/charts/ancchart.htm > > > > > > I thought they had census forms too, but can't seem to locate them at > the > > > moment. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Linda Hughes" <linhughes@home.com> > > > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:00 AM > > > Subject: Re: Genealogy Forms > > > > > > > http://www.ancestrycorner.com/forms.htm > > > > > > > > is where this site has moved to. > > > > Linda Hughes > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sandy Redmond" <slredmond@earthlink.net> > > > > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:33 AM > > > > Subject: Genealogy Forms > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a good web site where you can print off basic > > > > > genealogy forms such as group sheets, ancestor charts, census > abstracts, > > > > > etc? > > > > > > > > > > The Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Genealogy references > > > > > www.genrecords.com by Genealogy Records Service and gives examples > of > > > > > all the wonderful forms available. HOWEVER! You guessed it - the > URL > > > > > is no longer valid. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > > > > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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