At 09:55 AM 01/28/2001 -0800, Beverly Przybylski wrote: >I've lost the Public_html folder on one of the web pages I have >through RootsWeb. The web page still comes up but I cannot access the >files now to make changes. Can someone help? Beverly: Unfortunately, we'd have to be mindreaders at this point to figure out exactly what went wrong and needs fixing. If you can load the web pages in your browser, then the public_html directory *MUST* exist. The server won't deliver the pages if it's not there. But -- I'm not doubting that you are having a problem of some sort. So, the best thing to do is post a question with all the specifics including what it was that you did, what you expected to happen, and what actually happened. Also, we need to know which server and account you're working with. "One of the web pages I have through RootsWeb" is just too obscure for us to help you. Regards, Elsi

I've lost the Public_html folder on one of the web pages I have through RootsWeb. The web page still comes up but I cannot access the files now to make changes. Can someone help? Thanks - Bev beverlyp@harborside.com or LadyeCloud@aol.com Ancestors in the Attic http://ladyecloud.hypermart.net/Ancestors.htm Member Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org Yaquina Chapter NSDAR http://www.rootsweb.com/~oryaqdar/Yaquina.htm ***NGS Conference in the States, May 16-19, 2001, Portland, OR***

Kathy, I use tables for my surnames. You can check them out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floy-sur1999.htm, http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floy-sur2000.htm, & http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floy-sur2001.htm The tables were originally set up in one of the earlier versions of HTML - that made them easier to code and for more browsers to read them. As a new request comes in, I just use a cut & paste method of adding to the table. I used the more automatic methods with the queries, etc. But, I felt like it was a little more personal with the surnames if I used the table method. Besides, I can keep up with those folks researching in my county a little better this way. Hope this helps! - Ron Dailey Webmaster Floyd County VAGenWeb -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Larson [mailto:klarson@sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:23 AM To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Surname page set-up Hello Everybody, I am a very green Webmaster with two questions (one more complicated than the other): Question no. 1: I would like to set up a surnames page. I want to make it simple for visitors to contribute to and consult. *But*, I also want to make it as easy as possible for me to keep it up to date. I'm sure there is a way to set up a form that visitors just fill out and it automatically gets posted correctly in the right spot on the site... but I haven't explored this very far yet. I'm guessing that it has something to do with these things called "cgi". It would be something similar to the guestbook, but instead of putting the visitors by order of date, it would be under surnames. It can't be "off-site" because I want my site search engine to be able to search it. Is this something that is "do-able"? Can anybody direct me toward some examples? All I really want to know at the moment is whether or not this can be done, if you tell me yes, then I will see what I can figure out on my own before coming back to the list with more specific questions. If it makes any difference, I am using a Mac and the software I'm using is called Freeway (vers. 1.0.2)--a "freebie" I got last year with a magazine. I don't understand much about HTML yet (Freeway writes it for me), but I'm getting fairly good with my "aim" when I "copy & paste" borrowed HTML. Freeway 1.0.2 does allow me to make forms (is that where I need to start?). And now question number 2: Just out of curiousity... what happens if a visitor tries to visit my site at the same time that I'm uploading an update (like sometime today)? Do they get gibberish? Are they told that the page doesn't exist? Does the page suddenly change in front of their eyes? Thank you very much, Kathleen (Kathy) Larson, Webmaster Sullivan County Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~inschs/ ______________________________

From: "Heather Leighton Waddingham" <genbuf@home.com> > Joan is at a loss as to why I can't get the html coding onto my index > page... and suggested I try this list. > > Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong by chance?? Hi Heather, Elsi has already given you several suggestions for getting your guestbook code included. But I checked your code with Arachnophilia (while looking for the problem), and it reported a long list of code errors: 26 unpaired <./a> tags 85 unpaired <./font> tags 1 unpaired <./form> tag 2 unpaired <./select> tags Since the guestbook is also a form, this unpaired FORM tag may cause problems once you do get your guestbook code inserted. The unpaired A tags can cause your links not to work. I would recommend you check your code with a validator. If you've never used one, http://validator.w3.org/ is a good one. -- Pat Asher Ambrose Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ Help for Beginning Web Authors http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/

From: "Karen" <nchistoric@onemain.com> > important I need, somehow to get the files transferred to the Local System > (left side) of WS-FTP. Karen -- this may be the "root" of your problem. You do not "transfer" your files to the Local System. You just display them there. What you want to do is navigate to where the files are stored on your computer, just like you would in MyComputer or Windows Explorer. There is a little green arrow at the top of this box. Double click on this to move up your directory tree. Move up to your C:\ directory (if this is where your web files are stored). Now navigate back down the tree to their location by double clicking a folder to open and display it's contents. If your pages are stored in Front Page, the path in the top box might look something like this: C:\ProgramFiles\InternetExplorer\FrontPage\ If they are on your Desktop, the path would probably be: C:\Windows\Desktop\MyWeb\ This Local System box will display the contents of whatever folder you choose. Once your web files appear here, you can connect, and simply drag and drop them to the Remote Location. -- Pat Asher Ambrose Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ Help for Beginning Web Authors http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/

Dear Friends, I can not thank each of you enough for all the help and patience you have offered. I have finally got the system working. I owe a big thank you to Pat Asher for the following message: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karen -- this may be the "root" of your problem. You do not "transfer" your files to the Local System. You just display them there. What you want to do is navigate to where the files are stored on your computer, just like you would in MyComputer or Windows Explorer. There is a little green arrow at the top of this box. Double click on this to move up your directory tree. Move up to your C:\ directory (if this is where your web files are stored). Now navigate back down the tree to their location by double clicking a folder to open and display it's contents. If your pages are stored in Front Page, the path in the top box might look something like this: C:\ProgramFiles\InternetExplorer\FrontPage\ If they are on your Desktop, the path would probably be: C:\Windows\Desktop\MyWeb\ This Local System box will display the contents of whatever folder you choose. Once your web files appear here, you can connect, and simply drag and drop them to the Remote Location. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It was mention of the green arrow that got me over the hump. I want to thank Pat Asher, Christine Doyle, Gloria Bronte Lane, Cheryl Singhal, Sandy Redmond, Carol Hepburn, Russell Tipton, Elsi, Terry. I hope I have not missed anyone. If so, please forgive me. Each one of you deserve a medal for patience! I hope that I can be of assistance to any of you, some day. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!! Karen Dyer nchistoric@onemain.com ~~~~ Historic Cemeteries of Nevada County http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~historic/ ~~~~ Nevada County Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~cancgs/

Hi, Barb. I transferred everything in one folder. Good luck. Karen Parker Visit Parker's Genealogy and History Establishment http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~kmparker/gen

I'm a new subscriber & also new to FTP. I will have an account in a couple of days & I have a question on getting my files to the account. My design is a two frame page with links on one side that connect to well over 100 separate "pages". It is all currently in 1 folder. Can I transfer the folder as a whole or do I need to transfer each page individually? Thanks, Barb

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0157_01C08840.0DBF4FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to thank everyone who took the time to check out my website. I found out my Internet Explorer wasn't working at the time. I was trying to view it with Netscape, but apparently the problem with Explorer distorted it. It worked fine for me when the problem with Explorer was fixed and then Explorer went out again and I had the same problem. Even though I don't understand it...along with many other things..at least it worked for you. Anyway, Thanks to all of you. Omeda ------=_NextPart_000_0157_01C08840.0DBF4FE0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Omeda Brewer.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Omeda Brewer.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Brewer;Omeda FN:Omeda Brewer EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:obrewer@triad.rr.com REV:20010127T140345Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0157_01C08840.0DBF4FE0--

Dear Friends, You have all been so kind that I felt I best write to you before anything else. I did not drop off the earth. I have been quiet because we had a blizzard go through this No CA area, drop 17" snow where I am and knock out the power for 20½ hours. But, guess who was on the computer When this all hit so unexpectedly? Yep, I was doing two things at once...I had FrontPage (Freeweb) open and was starting a reply letter to Carol of this list. As for the storm hitting fast, the CHP had not expected it until about 5 hrs. later than it hit. Sadly, yet fortunate in the outcome, my husband's SUV slid very slowly off the road down a steep hill and stopped, rested against a 4" pine tree trunk. They plan to try to get it out tomorrow..two tow trucks and CHP on this narrow, windy mountain road. As though things were not bad enough, when I turned the computer on before dinner, I went right to FrontPage. Something told me I had a problem....Yep can not find that web folder anywhere in my computer. Time out...I had saved it to CD before I transferred to this computer. So, I still need to get it back into Front Page...not a big worry, & more important I need, somehow to get the files transferred to the Local System (left side) of WS-FTP. I truly appreciate all the help you are offering. I will get there, yet. Thank you, thank you, all! Karen Dyer nchistoric@onemain.com ~~~~ Historic Cemeteries of Nevada County http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~historic/ ~~~~ Nevada County Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~cancgs/

On 26 Jan 01, at 14:10, Heather Leighton Waddingham wrote: > I went through the steps a few days ago to get a guestbook set up on > my genealogy web page located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ . > I believe my code is 1715 if I have read the html correctly. I use > Front page express to develop all my pages. I also use ws_ftp to load > the pages. I have tried "cutting and pasting" the html code to my > index page as instructed on the main page when I signed up. This does > not work for some reason. When cutting and pasting HTML code into pages within FrontPage, be sure that you're in the HTML view and not in the usual WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) editing page. I use FrontPage 2000, not Express, and I get to the HTML view by clicking a tab on the bottom of the panel. I'm sure there's an equivalent way to do this in Express, but I can't tell you how to do it. >I then went into "file manager" as suggested > in a previous posting on the guestbook help board, and tried it and > keep getting an error message "not enough memory available to complete > this operation. Quit one or more applications to increase available > memory and try again". I have tried this as well shutting down all > applications with the exception of the file manager and still it will > not work. Not a Guestbook error - but something in the way the FileManager interacts with your computer when editing a page. I suspect that the problem may be to the current size of your index.htm(l) page. The FileManager runs into problems with big files -- particularly when you are running Netscape Navigator as your browser. Or, the problem could be in having a large piece of text in the system clipboard. At any rate, try this: 1) Take all the sample HTML which you were given for your Guestbook and put it on a separate web page. If you find out how to put FrontPage Express into HTML-edit mode, then you can use it. You can also just paste the HTML code into a text document created with WordPad and then save it with a .htm or .html extension. 2) Now, open your index page in FrontPage Express and create a new link to the page on which you put your Guestbook code. For an example of this way of implementing the Guestbook, see the pages at the RootsWeb HomeSchooling location -- http://education.rootsweb.com/~homeschooling/index.html is the home/index page and the guestbook form is at http://education.rootsweb.com/~homeschooling/feedback.html Regards, Elsi Regards, Elsi

Hi I went through the steps a few days ago to get a guestbook set up on my genealogy web page located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ . I believe my code is 1715 if I have read the html correctly. I use Front page express to develop all my pages. I also use ws_ftp to load the pages. I have tried "cutting and pasting" the html code to my index page as instructed on the main page when I signed up. This does not work for some reason. I then went into "file manager" as suggested in a previous posting on the guestbook help board, and tried it and keep getting an error message "not enough memory available to complete this operation. Quit one or more applications to increase available memory and try again". I have tried this as well shutting down all applications with the exception of the file manager and still it will not work. I have contacted Joan at the Guestbook help desk and she suggested that I shut down my computer and restart it and go into file manager and try again. I have done this and still no luck. I have also tried to put in the info by hand instead of the cut and past method but still get the same error message... not enough memory etc. I only get as far as: <a name="guestbook".</a><form m Joan is at a loss as to why I can't get the html coding onto my index page... and suggested I try this list. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong by chance?? Thanks!! Heather Leighton Waddingham Campobello Parish Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcampob/ My England and Canadian Roots containing 7800 names http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=CDNROOTS&I11.x=26&I11.y=7 email: hwaddingham@yahoo.com

Hello Everybody, I am a very green Webmaster with two questions (one more complicated than the other): Question no. 1: I would like to set up a surnames page. I want to make it simple for visitors to contribute to and consult. *But*, I also want to make it as easy as possible for me to keep it up to date. I'm sure there is a way to set up a form that visitors just fill out and it automatically gets posted correctly in the right spot on the site... but I haven't explored this very far yet. I'm guessing that it has something to do with these things called "cgi". It would be something similar to the guestbook, but instead of putting the visitors by order of date, it would be under surnames. It can't be "off-site" because I want my site search engine to be able to search it. Is this something that is "do-able"? Can anybody direct me toward some examples? All I really want to know at the moment is whether or not this can be done, if you tell me yes, then I will see what I can figure out on my own before coming back to the list with more specific questions. If it makes any difference, I am using a Mac and the software I'm using is called Freeway (vers. 1.0.2)--a "freebie" I got last year with a magazine. I don't understand much about HTML yet (Freeway writes it for me), but I'm getting fairly good with my "aim" when I "copy & paste" borrowed HTML. Freeway 1.0.2 does allow me to make forms (is that where I need to start?). And now question number 2: Just out of curiousity... what happens if a visitor tries to visit my site at the same time that I'm uploading an update (like sometime today)? Do they get gibberish? Are they told that the page doesn't exist? Does the page suddenly change in front of their eyes? Thank you very much, Kathleen (Kathy) Larson, Webmaster Sullivan County Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~inschs/

Karen - I do understand this dilemma. I'm associate editor of a site originally done in Front Page. And when I try to WS-FTP to the site, there are *NO* directories on the remote host. There are a couple of things here that can help you out. (bear in mind I'm using WS_FTP Pro, which you can download from the ipswitch site) First, when you set up the site properties, there are 5 tabs: General, Session, Startup, Advanced, Firewall. General should list your Site Name ("Historic") then the host name/address ("freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~historic") then the host type (pick "automatic detect") then your User ID ("historic") then if you want your password. Then go to the Startup tab. The remote site folder should be something like "genealogy_html" The Local folder should be something like "C:\Program Files\WS_FTP\historic" Remember that you need the BACKslashes in this line. Then click OK. This means that when you login to the historic site, it will automatically open the correct folders/directories in both your local system and remote host. IF FrontPage is putting your files in somewhere else, then you have to find them and change the Local folder name appropriately. I don't currently use FrontPage (but am going to have to soon), but you shouldn't have to "export" the files to get WS_FTP to see them. In fact, you could just let them be in the default FrontPage directory, and specify that directory name for the Local folder. You do exactly the same thing for your other site (Nevada County Gen Soc), which means that you will have TWO sites to choose from in WS_FTP. I suspect that the problem lies in FrontPage and where it's putting the pages. I hope that this helps. Chris

Hi Kathleen's query prompted me to ask this one - Can CC-helper be used on freepages? CC-Helper and Surname Helper with Query Express are wonderful ways to handle the listing, alphabetizing, and searching of names. Mona On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:22:51 -0500 Kathleen Larson <klarson@sympatico.ca> writes: > Hello Everybody, > > I am a very green Webmaster with two questions (one more complicated > than the other): > > Question no. 1: > > I would like to set up a surnames page. I want to make it simple for > visitors to contribute to and consult. *But*, I also want to make it > as > easy as possible for me to keep it up to date. I'm sure there is a > way > to set up a form that visitors just fill out and > it automatically gets posted correctly in the right spot on the > site... > but I haven't explored this very far yet. I'm guessing that it has > something to do with these things called "cgi". It would be > something > similar to the guestbook, but instead of putting the visitors by > order > of date, it would be under surnames. It can't be "off-site" because > I > want my site search engine to be able to search it. Is this > something > that is "do-able"? Can anybody direct me toward some examples? > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

At 08:29 PM 01/25/2001 -0500, Russell Tipton wrote: >I've been attempting to learn this Mail Merge to create a feedback form on >my pages and the instructions just don't penetrate my thick head. >Would someone please tell me what to put in the Input File "Form Action" >line for the 2 following Pages. > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tipwood/ Your form page name has a space in it "feedback form.html" -- I get "feedback not found" when I click on your link. You'll be better off with a - or _ in the file name instead. Loading the page, I see that you have this: <FORM ACTION="cgi-bin/mailmerge.cgi/http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tipwood/public_ html/template.file" METHOD="post"> It should read: <FORM ACTION="/cgi-bin/mailmerge.cgi/~tipwood/template.file" METHOD="post"> Note the leading slash. Also, the ~tipwood construction implies the public_html directory, so it isn't needed. Next, you need to create the "template.file" and put your MailMerge directives in it. > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tiptonsingeorgia/ThomasTipton/ I didn't find a MailMerge form page here, so all I can do is give you a generic answer: <FORM ACTION="/cgi-bin/mailmerge.cgi/~tiptonsingeorgia/template.file" METHOD="post"> Regards, Elsi

Well, the search engines aren't REAL helpful when they won't let you differentiate between the Roman numeral I and the Roman Numeral II, now are they? :{ (I know, I shudda tried -II, but I didn't think of it in time.) I got over 10,000 hits for graphics-world-war and almost that many for graphics-world-war-1918. I'm hunting graphics from the WW ONE era, preferably B&W sketches or line-art. I've found one good possibility that's down, one really neat historic site, but (psi) no sketches, line art, cartoons, etc. Anybody know a site, offhand? Or have a couple graphics I can use? Thanks! *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://www.capaccess.org/com/troop763 http://www.fortunecity.com/millennium/blyton/772/ (DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (UDC)

At 02:13 PM 01/25/2001 -0800, Karen wrote: >All I want to do is to send the files from FrontPage to the Local Directory >on WS-FTP. Perhaps I have not had the right names in the right places. At >this point I am not sure of anything.. So your problem now appears to be that you can't FIND the files on your hard drive? Yes/no. If no, then try again to explain. As I said in my earlier, private post, the two FTP targets you listed were different. [In one place she said she u/l to the CA site and in another she said it was to the Historic site.] If yes: then your default local directory has changed. Open FrontPage, and see where you told it to put the files (or where it CHOSE to put them, whichever). Write down that info. Now open WS_FTP and on the lefthand (as you face it) side, click to change directories back to C:\ and then come down thru the directories to what you've written down. Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://www.capaccess.org/com/troop763 http://www.fortunecity.com/millennium/blyton/772/ (DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (UDC)

I've been attempting to learn this Mail Merge to create a feedback form on my pages and the instructions just don't penetrate my thick head. Would someone please tell me what to put in the Input File "Form Action" line for the 2 following Pages. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tipwood/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tiptonsingeorgia/ThomasTipton/ Any/All help appreciated. Russell Tipton

I'm searching for descendants of my g-g-g-grandfather Hans Jakob (John J,) Straumann, b.1776 in CHE his son Johann Jakob (John J.), b.1800 " and his daughter Maria (Marie), b.1806 " They landed together in Baltimore MD during September of 1824, emigrating from Bretzwil,Baselland,Switzerland. ( I'm a descendant of Heinrich Straumann,b.1802, brother to above Johann Jakob. He remained in Bretzwil with his siblings.) Has anybody come across this family ? I would greatly appreciate any response. Please see my database for further info. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=fstrauma Thank you Fred H.Straumann Richmond Hill, Ontario Canada fstraumann@colosseum.com