In a message dated 6/22/01 2:07:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "malurvey$bewellnet.com"@fgn.net writes: > So now it looks like all information that we have been asking for is now > copyrighted by MyFamily.com. So the next question is what is going to > happen > with our private family sites at MyFamily....! Are all of our photos, and > information going to be next? No--the AUP has not changed. You still own your posts. This is ONLY on printed pages so that if someone prints out YOUR page they know they don't own it. The page layout however on a Web site is the property of MyFamily.com. Joan

In a message dated 6/22/01 1:46:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dsam@sampubco.com writes: > I'm going to keep up with you on this one. You will have to bear > grin and be patient with us even to the point of extracting your > eye and canine teeth out. ***<<VERY BIG GRIN>>*** Ouch, David, that hurt! <giggle> > > please list *ALL* the new ones added. > you already mentioned: marriage, birth, death, cemetery > What others? Okay. The Message Types are the default which is query, and the data categories which are: Bible, Biography, Birth, Cemetery, Census, Death, Deed, Immigration, Lookup, Marriage, Military, Obituary, Pension, Will. Keep in mind that with the drop-down menu feature it will be easy to add other data types if we later deem necessary--unlike adding new BOARD types themselves. > > *STILL* not answered: the option to shut off queries posted to any > bios, obits, pensions, etc other than the query board itself - > specifically individually since some CCs allow queries to wills and > not other boards as long as it is revelant to THAT will (or to THAT > bio or to THAT obit). The new system should solve that issue completely. The poster can reply to an Obituary and still classify the response as a query. This should virtually eliminate the unwanted query response to data post problem. In a search for Obits ONLY those posts categorized as Obits will show up--not the responses tagged as queries. > > The idea of the board admin have to use user-id and password to post > transcribed bios, obits, etc *EACH TIME* really stinks. It was done > away some time ago only to see it come back. This is for purposes of universal changes--you must have a database in order to permit universal updating which I think everyone agrees we needed for a long time. > > And what's worse in my case, my user-id and password was not recognized > and rejected 3 times. I had them with Ancestry.com and still rejected. > That will be 4th time they changed my user-id if I succeed. > Yes--we know--we are working on it right now. Joan RootsWeb

As I'm sure you can all imagine, Traffic is extremely high tonight. We've added more servers, but still aren't keeping up. Please try back later. We all have 3 weeks to register our boards. Logging in for your boards won't affect your lists in any way. Valorie PS: There are new lists, Board-Admins-L, and Board-Users-L. Everyone will get better help over there, than here. Connie Snyder wrote: > > Tim Singleton wrote: > > > I couldn't even get to the web site...got an error that said the page was > > unavailable. What's up??? > > Same problem here. How can we apply for the boards if we can't get there? Can > you also tell me how this affects the password for the companion Rootsweb > mailing list that we've been using?

Did I miss something here. I followed the instructions to sign on and it has my name at the top. How do I get validate my desire to keep the boards I administer? I clicked on the admin info and get a blank page. Is there another step I missed out on? I want to accept but how? Wil

I'm getting a blank page for admin also... ! Margo

Well folks, if ever I felt like saying "I told you so; now is the time." When the money coming in wasn't enough to even begin to keep up with the cost of the keeping the Rootsweb servers up and running, we went to "clusters," and "banners" for advertising. (A very dumb move I thought then and I still think.) We had dozens of boards none of us who actually work at this wanted and we sure as heck didn't need them. I really do understand why that was financially necessary. Well - that didn't produce enough income to keep the project afloat. So - along comes the sell out to Ancestry. It is not Bryan's or Karen's fault. They worked long and hard and put their own money into the project for years! The problem is/was that the visiting public would not support the project even with as little as $12.00 a month! It's entirely possible that some of the state and county admins never kicked in any money either. If even half the people who used the sites had sent in that twelve bucks; perhaps the project could have continued as it was envisioned. On my Fayette County Iowa USGenWeb site, volunteers had typed in over 400 bios and obits. I don't even know how many queries there were; there were about 50 will extracts. Now, all a visitor will get by clicking on one of the board icons is a constant try to connect to ancestry, on and on and on! I have two other counties; I don't have the heart to go see what is happening there. What am I supposed to tell all those volunteers? I really loved the boards; they made it so easy for a visitor or a volunteer to post information that researchers need! I've wondered over the past couple of years why all county admins didn't take advantage of what the boards had to offer. NOW I KNOW! I don't know what will happen to the data posted on the county pages that isn't on a board. I suspect that someone at ancestry.dam will find a way to screw it up also. I guess it's true that one gets what they pay for. Doesn't seem quite fair that those of us who DID pay for Rootsweb are NOT getting what we paid for. There are no free rides, even on the internet. I will really mourn Rootsweb - as far as I'm concerned - it died. We should all have known better from the beginning. NOTHING is free! Except the time and heart and effort we have put into all those sites. I guess they aren't ours anymore; they belong to ancestry. By the way, David, if you are still reading this stuff - this is just one example of why I never would allow the info on my county pages to be duplicated in the archives. I predict that it will not be long before you see all the information in those archives burned on a cd for sale by ancestry. My main dilemma right now is whether to pull all my counties down quickly or hide and watch for awhile. NOW THIS IS REALLY FUNNY - we in the USGenWeb have an election going on just now. FOR WHAT? What difference does it make??????? Can we vote away ancestry and all the garbage that came with it? Afraid not. Linnie Hoover Howell cc for three USGenWeb Counties

In a message dated 6/21/01 11:33:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cjsnyder@midusa.net writes: > Same problem here. How can we apply for the boards if we can't get there? Can > you also tell me how this affects the password for the companion Rootsweb > mailing list that we've been using? > Connie- It won't affect your list password at all. Bear with us on the overloaded servers--we're working as fast as possible to add capacity and servers. Joan

In a message dated 6/21/01 11:44:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, llee@ksni.net writes: > Anyone know what happened to all the information on the biography and > obitruary boards? Are these other boards still available? Has all the info > we spent so much time transcribing now lost? Or is there now a charge to see > it? > Linda- All the information you transcribed is *there* on the one master board for the locality or surname or topic. You can now search and post all types of data as follows: What used to be covered by 7 boards in a suite is now consolidated onto one master board. This does not remove any of the functionality of having the 7 separate boards as the one board gives you the option of selecting a 'category' when posting. If you are posting a query or general message you need do nothing with the category drop down menu. if you are posting data, select the appropriate data type from the menu when posting. By selecting the data type when posting, you enable board searchers to find your post under this specific data type. Search ONLY for a specific data type without all the hassles associated with moving from one board to another or searching separate boards individually--all of the features of 7 boards are rolled into one for ease and convenience. Also, note that the drop down menu includes a new expanded selection of data types!!! Here are the marriage, birth, death, cemetery, etc. boards you've all been wanting in category selection. Hope this helps! Joan RootsWeb

I know I pressed for ages for birth, marriage, death and immigration for Germany but the idea of requiring user-id and password to post.... David Samuelsen JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/22/01 1:46:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > dsam@sampubco.com writes: > > > I'm going to keep up with you on this one. You will have to bear > > grin and be patient with us even to the point of extracting your > > eye and canine teeth out. ***<<VERY BIG GRIN>>*** > > Ouch, David, that hurt! <giggle> > > > > please list *ALL* the new ones added. > > you already mentioned: marriage, birth, death, cemetery > > What others? > > Okay. The Message Types are the default which is query, and the data > categories which are: Bible, Biography, Birth, Cemetery, Census, Death, Deed, > Immigration, Lookup, Marriage, Military, Obituary, Pension, Will. Keep in > mind that with the drop-down menu feature it will be easy to add other data > types if we later deem necessary--unlike adding new BOARD types themselves. > > > > *STILL* not answered: the option to shut off queries posted to any > > bios, obits, pensions, etc other than the query board itself - > > specifically individually since some CCs allow queries to wills and > > not other boards as long as it is revelant to THAT will (or to THAT > > bio or to THAT obit). > > The new system should solve that issue completely. The poster can reply to > an Obituary and still classify the response as a query. This should > virtually eliminate the unwanted query response to data post problem. In a > search for Obits ONLY those posts categorized as Obits will show up--not the > responses tagged as queries. > > > > The idea of the board admin have to use user-id and password to post > > transcribed bios, obits, etc *EACH TIME* really stinks. It was done > > away some time ago only to see it come back. > > This is for purposes of universal changes--you must have a database in order > to permit universal updating which I think everyone agrees we needed for a > long time. > > > > And what's worse in my case, my user-id and password was not recognized > > and rejected 3 times. I had them with Ancestry.com and still rejected. > > That will be 4th time they changed my user-id if I succeed. > > > Yes--we know--we are working on it right now. > > Joan > RootsWeb

In a message dated 6/22/01 12:00:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "malurvey$bewellnet.com"@fgn.net writes: > Well, I got my notice and I can't even get to the site. Gee does this > smell a little bit like a skunk!! Have we been here before when FTM wanted > all of our files for free!!!! > > Margo > Margo- Hang in there--the servers are overloaded and we're doing our best add capacity and additional servers. Please bear with us. Joan RootsWeb

In a message dated 6/22/01 12:04:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, topsaw@sc.rr.com writes: > At the risk of sounding stupid, what exactly would the new URL be? I never > got anything telling me that. My old address was: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/Georgetown Any clue what > the new one would be? I've tried to go to the main page for the boards from > the Ancestry.com home page, but that's not working either. > Debbie- You can start here: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=main&r=rw and navigate to Localities and then States and then to South Carolina and then to the counties and to Georgetown. We do apologize for the overloaded servers--please bear with us. You can also type the board name into the search box and get a list of boards containing that name, and then click on the link to the Georgetown SC board. Joan RootsWeb

In a message dated 6/22/01 12:06:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Quest@springnet1.com writes: > Perhaps . . . but for those of us who DO NOT have the "query" boards for the > "other" 6 separate boards we have been administering all this time . . . we > are left with nothing . . . a bit of a slap in the face . . . or at least > this is the way I feel. > > Karima Karima- I can appreciate how you feel. However, I can assure you that we didn't pick and choose any favorites--it works the same for all of us. I may be on the Message Board Administration Staff but I also lost some data boards I adminned. So there was no favoritism shown. I'll miss those boards--but I understand that this is a more efficient system when all factors are weighed. I hope you will come to appreciate that fact also in time. On the plus side, there are a lot more boards out there that could use some loving maintenance from an attentive admin such as yourself. So you may wish to consider that in the future. Thanks for all your assistance in the past with those data boards. Joan RootsWeb

I just did a GOOGLE search for my surname and the messages on the surname list came up. I tried to print one with some information that I did not have. It wouldn't print and there is now a message at the bottom of the message that says: "© Copyright 1996-2001, MyFamily.com, Inc. All rights reserved. This material is for personal use only. Republication and redissemination, including posting to news groups, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of MyFamily.com, Inc." So now it looks like all information that we have been asking for is now copyrighted by MyFamily.com. So the next question is what is going to happen with our private family sites at MyFamily....! Are all of our photos, and information going to be next? MMargo

Extracted another answer. You can either search all boards, or just one. And using Advanced Search, you can limit your searches to just one classification, e.g. Wills, Obituaries, Queries.

At the risk of sounding stupid, what exactly would the new URL be? I never got anything telling me that. My old address was: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/Georgetown Any clue what the new one would be? I've tried to go to the main page for the boards from the Ancestry.com home page, but that's not working either. Debbie

None of my boards are available at all. Have the URLs been changed? Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] GenConnect board problem | they really SCREWED it. | | Combined boards into ONE "Query" board - AND - requires Ancestry.com' | USER ID and PASSWORD just to POST a query or bio or anything. | | send your objections to Jake Gehring at jgehring@ancestry-inc.com | | I am now seeing other messages from other CCs who are OUTRAGED over | the screwed/mucked combined board message system and declared that | they are DEEP-SIXing any connection to this screwed/mucked system | effectively immediately. | | I sent a message to Jake expressing my outrage that I had been | refused several times MY Ancestry.com USER ID and PASSWORD. | | I haven't seen my Aldrich family boards yet. If they are combined, | GOOD BYE. I already saw one of my county boards - Baker County, OR | - all boards had been combined. I am NOT happy. | | What ever happened to integrity of separate and orderly boards??? | It was best system I have ever seen in use UNTIL the idiots that be | chose to COMBINE all applicable boards into one "QUERY" board, killing | the goose that laid the golden egg. | | W. David Samuelsen | | Tim Singleton wrote: | > | > I couldn't even get to the web site...got an error that said the page was | > unavailable. What's up??? | > | > Tim Singleton, tsingleton@iclub.org | > 105 Nancy Drive | > Richmond, KY 40475-8613 | > | > Volunteer INGenWeb Coordinator | > Adams Co. - http://www.rootsweb.com/~inadams | > Randolph Co. - http://www.rootsweb.com/~inrandol/ | > | > ============================== | > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: | > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. | > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com | | | ============================== | Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: | Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. | http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com | |

I'm going to keep up with you on this one. You will have to bear grin and be patient with us even to the point of extracting your eye and canine teeth out. ***<<VERY BIG GRIN>>*** please list *ALL* the new ones added. you already mentioned: marriage, birth, death, cemetery What others? *STILL* not answered: the option to shut off queries posted to any bios, obits, pensions, etc other than the query board itself - specifically individually since some CCs allow queries to wills and not other boards as long as it is revelant to THAT will (or to THAT bio or to THAT obit). The idea of the board admin have to use user-id and password to post transcribed bios, obits, etc *EACH TIME* really stinks. It was done away some time ago only to see it come back. And what's worse in my case, my user-id and password was not recognized and rejected 3 times. I had them with Ancestry.com and still rejected. That will be 4th time they changed my user-id if I succeed. David JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/21/01 11:44:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, llee@ksni.net > writes: > > > Anyone know what happened to all the information on the biography and > > obitruary boards? Are these other boards still available? Has all the > info > > we spent so much time transcribing now lost? Or is there now a charge to > see > > it? > > > Linda- > > All the information you transcribed is *there* on the one master board for > the locality or surname or topic. You can now search and post all types of > data as follows: > > What used to be covered by 7 boards in a suite is now consolidated onto one > master board. This does not remove any of the functionality of having the 7 > separate boards as the one board gives you the option of selecting a > 'category' when posting. If you are posting a query or general message you > need do nothing with the category drop down menu. if you are posting data, > select the appropriate data type from the menu when posting. By selecting > the data type when posting, you enable board searchers to find your post > under this specific data type. Search ONLY for a specific data type without > all the hassles associated with moving from one board to another or searching > separate boards individually--all of the features of 7 boards are rolled into > one for ease and convenience. Also, note that the drop down menu includes a > new expanded selection of data types!!! Here are the marriage, birth, death, > cemetery, etc. boards you've all been wanting in category selection. > > Hope this helps! > > Joan > RootsWeb > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/22/01 12:04:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > topsaw@sc.rr.com writes: > > > At the risk of sounding stupid, what exactly would the new URL be? I never > > got anything telling me that. My old address was: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/Georgetown Any clue what > > the new one would be? I've tried to go to the main page for the boards > from > > the Ancestry.com home page, but that's not working either. > > > Debbie- > > You can start here: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=main&r=rw and > navigate to Localities and then States and then to South Carolina and then to > the counties and to Georgetown. We do apologize for the overloaded > servers--please bear with us. You can also type the board name into the > search box and get a list of boards containing that name, and then click on > the link to the Georgetown SC board. > > Joan > RootsWeb That doesn't even work for me. It simply is not answering. Is it true that users will be required to register and use a username and password in order to even use the boards? Connie

Dear Joan, I think my initial anger is that this should have been explained to us before it was "done". It would have been easier to accept. This approach is totally insensitive to all of us (volunteers) who are dedicated to this effort. I truly feel like I have just had a door slammed in my face . . . and it hurts a bit. I will get over it, but doubt that I will forget it . . . and there will always be this feeling lurking in the back of my mind "what will they take away next?" Karima ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <Quest@springnet1.com>; <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Re: [BOARDS-ADMINS] Re: [GC] New message boards > In a message dated 6/22/01 12:06:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Quest@springnet1.com writes: > > > Perhaps . . . but for those of us who DO NOT have the "query" boards for the > > "other" 6 separate boards we have been administering all this time . . . we > > are left with nothing . . . a bit of a slap in the face . . . or at least > > this is the way I feel. > > > > Karima > > Karima- > > I can appreciate how you feel. However, I can assure you that we didn't pick > and choose any favorites--it works the same for all of us. I may be on the > Message Board Administration Staff but I also lost some data boards I > adminned. So there was no favoritism shown. I'll miss those boards--but I > understand that this is a more efficient system when all factors are weighed. > I hope you will come to appreciate that fact also in time. > > On the plus side, there are a lot more boards out there that could use some > loving maintenance from an attentive admin such as yourself. So you may wish > to consider that in the future. > > Thanks for all your assistance in the past with those data boards. > > Joan > RootsWeb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/01

I couldn't even get to the web site...got an error that said the page was unavailable. What's up??? Tim Singleton, tsingleton@iclub.org 105 Nancy Drive Richmond, KY 40475-8613 Volunteer INGenWeb Coordinator Adams Co. - http://www.rootsweb.com/~inadams Randolph Co. - http://www.rootsweb.com/~inrandol/