If anyone figures this all out, please let me know. I have three boards but then again, I also have three "personal" sites on Ancestry.com, none of which I could access until I sent "for my password" only to find out that they can't send it to me??? I tried to "register" after it would not take my "normal" sign on.... so I just changed my "name" and requested the three boards that I host...hope that works?? If I should stop my paid access, is thing gonna erase my free access?? Talk about being confused. ear

The separate 7 boards have been the joke in my opinion. They have been abused since the first entry several years ago. It's been an admin nightmare all along. If you would get to the new system to send a query, will, obit or whatever, you will see the options for some "great stuff". Sure I've got a lot of work to do to change my county web pages and work with the users, but I'm confiident this is going to be a far better method. Look at what you can do with it! This is a dramatic change and it's like a new world to me like I'm sure it is to you, but it's going to work. I've already got a hundred passwords, what's one more? I do fill a little sorry for the people that had the other 6 boards. Warren

I have at least 4user names. I want only one to get into every service that you have. I called and talked to a young lady. She said that she would do what I've requested. She said she would refund a duplicate payment and also take more money from my account. Today, I don't see one username but 4 and I don't see a new one. Please, you have my money, now let me see your services! Give me ONE Name, One Username, One set of code number/letters and let me work without all this fuss. Ben Mertens mertensb@bright.net

I guess we have a whole different idea of volunteerism down here in Louisa County. Data itself is not copyrightable and when I and my co-members type up databases, etc. for Rootsweb, it is with the idea that OTHER people can now have access to the same information as we do. Now, when I donate to the Red Cross, the Heart Association, and other charities, I don't expect to retain complete ownership of my contribution. I have the satisfaction of knowing that a few pennies will help someone else even though after working in a hospital, I know that most of that contribution will go for researchers and secretaries salaries and will never be seen by the patient. There are certain administrative costs and maintenance fees that are necessary for the patient to finally obtain any benefit. I can't boss any of these projects but hope I have helped in some way. I absolutely do not understand the proprietary attitude and possessiveness of people working as so called volunteers. I am grateful for all the free web space I have been allocated in order to help others. No matter what it is, there are some people that will always fight change. I tell my husband, when he comes home and gripes what the younger generation is doing downtown for improvements he thinks are unnecessary, to not voice his negativism too loudly as that is a sure sign of being dubbed "old" when you resist all new ideas. Most opposition is from ignorance and often your worst fears are never realized. Think about it. Are you a "volunteer with strings" or a "contributor to mankind"? Control is not an issue with me as I know what my real copyright issues are and I don't expect to copyright every word I write as much of it will eventually be deleted or forgotten anyway. Those of you padding this list with your complaints are part of the problem. Try a little patience and the bugs in the new system will be worked out. Anyone experienced with new database systems know from the beginning that there will be necessary enhancements once the system is up and running to identify the problem areas. Everyone impatiently hitting the link repeatedly so they can join the "rabble rousing" is causing the rest of us to wait longer to access the site to claim our sites. And it is irritating the heck out of me when you keep asking the obvious questions that have already been answered.. I have been more than amply paid for anything that I have contributed by the appreciation shown from others and the tons of info I have found in return. I have used Ancestry in the past to locate relatives that otherwise defied my efforts. For this, I feel my money was well spent to access their site for a few months. And they still have the best resource on the market with their "Source" book published a few years back. These are good people but they do need to charge for a few things to stay on the air. We all will eventually return to the dust anyway, we can't take it with us. I would rather see it available for future generations than develop paranoia for fear someone else will use my work. Norma Jennings

Find Messages Containing: With Subject Containing: By Author: Posted in the last: With Surname: Use Soundex (What Is Soundex?) With Message Type: The one major feature that is MISSING from here (the Advanced Search) is GEOGRAPHIC **and** SPECIFIC BOARD. Why? I know there are 800+ obituaries posted on Baker County, Oregon Obituary board and just about all had been hijacked by a Cindy Dahl as her own (all my work). Using Author method - forget it because they're listed as Cindy Dahl instead of "Transcriber" (she now has 7,400 posts to her credit). W. David Samuelsen

I am just lost! I can't find my GenConnect board that I administer. Any tips on how to pull the sucker up? :) OkRogers and ArLincoln

the separate boards were best! Never a problem. Now with combined method I can NOT find my 800+ obits and 600+ bios!!! Advanced Search is an absolute joke. All wrong hits and wrong geograhic area. Even with narrowing method. Still waiting for answer on this on boards-admins-L. David Samuelsen "Warren T. Bagley" wrote: > > The separate 7 boards have been the joke in my opinion. They have been > abused since the first entry several years ago. It's been an admin > nightmare all along. > > If you would get to the new system to send a query, will, obit or > whatever, you will see the options for some "great stuff". Sure I've > got a lot of work to do to change my county web pages and work with the > users, but I'm confiident this is going to be a far better method. Look > at what you can do with it! This is a dramatic change and it's like a > new world to me like I'm sure it is to you, but it's going to work. > > I've already got a hundred passwords, what's one more? > > I do fill a little sorry for the people that had the other 6 boards. > > Warren > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Andrew, This time your suggestions haven't worked. Every possible username I want to use (and I don't want to use any of those suggested) is returned as already in use - pick another. I've found NO Forgot your password screen on the Board Admin pages. Again I've spent 5 minutes trying everything possible with just the same runaround. I am not computer illiterate. I can read instructions. What I am saying is that these username/password screens are not my problem. If this system CAN'T recognize that I am the person who OWNS a particular username, same email, same name, then there is a problem from their end, not mine. If I enter a username and password, it tells me this username is already in use, or the password is incorrect. At this point, if the password is incorrect, I would think this would be the time for the Forgot your password option to pop up. It doesn't. All roads lead to setting up a completely new username and password, which is what I've complained about in my previous post. I end up with yet ANOTHER username attached to me and a guarantee of more problems down the road. Nel

here's the quick hint - go to ancestry.com site and click on "My Account" at upper right corner. David Samuelsen Nel Hatcher wrote: > > I've now gotten into the Board Admin signup page - thank you, Andrew! The > problem still exists - username. > > It keeps telling me my username already exists. Of COURSE it does! One of my > biggest problems with myfamily/ancestry.com is that when I try to access one > of their pages, it takes me 10 mins trying to find the correct > username/password. And by the time I stumble onto the right combination, I > no longer know how I did it. > > I don't understand WHY, when I supply everything but my SS#, that the system > can't recognize that the person entering all this info IS the person who > owns that "existing" username and allow me to continue. It is attempting to > force me to select another username which is the core of the problem. Too > many usernames scattered all over these sites. > > Perhaps it boils down to what the definition of IS is :-) > > Nel > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

not required if you have NO intentions of search the paid portion of Ancestry.com. Still a requirement of user-id and password to do anything in the free portion area. And for what is worth - the boards.ancestry.com is actually located at Rootsweb in California rather than Provo, Utah. Watch the flash message at the bottom while you go further. W. David Samuelsen Barbara Prestridge wrote: > > I had to use my password for my personal Ancestry.com account to get in. > I'm sorry I haven't followed all of this. Does this mean I have to renew my > account to keep my boards going? > > Thanks, > Barbara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nel Hatcher" <nelhatch@rapidnet.com> > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:17 AM > Subject: [RW-Help] Board Admins > > I have tried this morning to go to the special URL from the msg sent > yesterday. All that is on this page is a blue bar with the following links. > > Request Board Topic | Message Board Rules | Message Board FAQ | Message > Board Help > > I can reach a Login screen which requests username and password. I know what > my password is for my Genconnect boards, but those boards never required a > username. No matter what I try, I'm rejected. > > Where on this limited screen does it recognize me as a Board admin and not a > regular user? And what am I supposed to enter for username? > > Still not a happy camper, > Nel > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hit the message TWICE to get in. I did, even through the url in the message to me was NOT broken. But I had to hit the url TWICE. subscribe to Boards-Admins-L-request@rootsweb.com for more answers. I'm waiting for answer as to why a certain "Cindy Dahl" claimed all my transcriber posts as her own. W. David Samuelsen Andrew Billinghurst wrote: > > Nel, > > The URL is long make sure that you get it all, and if your mail > reader has broken the url over two lines, you will need to patch it > back together on the location line of your browser. > > Regards Andrew > > On 22 Jun 2001, at 8:17, Nel Hatcher <nelhatch@rapidnet.com> wrote: > > > I have tried this morning to go to the special URL from the msg sent > > yesterday. All that is on this page is a blue bar with the following links. > > > > Request Board Topic | Message Board Rules | Message Board FAQ | Message > > Board Help > > > > I can reach a Login screen which requests username and password. I know what > > my password is for my Genconnect boards, but those boards never required a > > username. No matter what I try, I'm rejected. > > > > Where on this limited screen does it recognize me as a Board admin and not a > > regular user? And what am I supposed to enter for username? > > > > Still not a happy camper, > > Nel > > > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > -- > Andrew Billinghurst > Genealogy mailing lists: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ > New Databases (check often): http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > Data Submission Form: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/submit.html > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

I had to use my password for my personal Ancestry.com account to get in. I'm sorry I haven't followed all of this. Does this mean I have to renew my account to keep my boards going? Thanks, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nel Hatcher" <nelhatch@rapidnet.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:17 AM Subject: [RW-Help] Board Admins I have tried this morning to go to the special URL from the msg sent yesterday. All that is on this page is a blue bar with the following links. Request Board Topic | Message Board Rules | Message Board FAQ | Message Board Help I can reach a Login screen which requests username and password. I know what my password is for my Genconnect boards, but those boards never required a username. No matter what I try, I'm rejected. Where on this limited screen does it recognize me as a Board admin and not a regular user? And what am I supposed to enter for username? Still not a happy camper, Nel ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

I've now gotten into the Board Admin signup page - thank you, Andrew! The problem still exists - username. It keeps telling me my username already exists. Of COURSE it does! One of my biggest problems with myfamily/ancestry.com is that when I try to access one of their pages, it takes me 10 mins trying to find the correct username/password. And by the time I stumble onto the right combination, I no longer know how I did it. I don't understand WHY, when I supply everything but my SS#, that the system can't recognize that the person entering all this info IS the person who owns that "existing" username and allow me to continue. It is attempting to force me to select another username which is the core of the problem. Too many usernames scattered all over these sites. Perhaps it boils down to what the definition of IS is :-) Nel

I have tried this morning to go to the special URL from the msg sent yesterday. All that is on this page is a blue bar with the following links. Request Board Topic | Message Board Rules | Message Board FAQ | Message Board Help I can reach a Login screen which requests username and password. I know what my password is for my Genconnect boards, but those boards never required a username. No matter what I try, I'm rejected. Where on this limited screen does it recognize me as a Board admin and not a regular user? And what am I supposed to enter for username? Still not a happy camper, Nel

In a message dated 6/22/01 2:50:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wfrankl@accessus.net writes: > Did I miss something here. I followed the instructions to sign on and it has > my name at the top. How do I get validate my desire to keep the boards I > administer? I clicked on the admin info and get a blank page. Is there > another step I missed out on? I want to accept but how? > > Wil Wil- If you received the notice in the mail to claim your boards and went to that special URL and registered--then there was a link to click on to take you to your admin board. Once there you can set up that Admin Info page--that is your page to create. Joan

In a message dated 6/22/01 3:27:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "malurvey$bewellnet.com"@fgn.net writes: > 'm getting a blank page for admin also... ! Margo- Keep trying -- this is just server overload. Joan

GENE POOL on Ancestry also lists my research "taken" from a family history my cousin compiled. B

In a message dated 6/22/01 12:55:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dsam@sampubco.com writes: > you can apologize for all we care but how in world are you able > to apologize for Ancestry's lumping of other boards into the **QUERY** > board? David- I think you now understand that this isn't just a query board. It is a *master* board with many functions. Use the categories box to select a category of post when you post a message, and use the advanced search Message Type box when searching for a specific type message. Joan

In a message dated 6/22/01 1:05:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dsam@sampubco.com writes: > Please figure this out for us. > > I just became aware of another problem associated with changed url > for the GenConnect. It's PML. > > Now that boards.ancestry.com is located in Provo, Utah instead of > in California with other Rootsweb servers, we won't able to see any > messages posted on mucked up GenConnect system. No longer able > to find specific post we might be very interested in. David- All of RootsWeb's servers are in Utah--none are in CA. The physical location of the servers has nothing to do with whether or not the messages are available to PML. There will be a temporary disruption of board messages being picked up by PML until the new system can be coordinated with PML. We do plan to restore the board messages to PML as soon as possible. Joan RootsWeb

Linnie Howell wrote: > > Well folks, if ever I felt like saying "I told you so; now is the time." > > When the money coming in wasn't enough to even begin to keep up with the > cost of the keeping the Rootsweb servers up and running, we went to > "clusters," and "banners" for advertising. (A very dumb move I thought > then and I still think.) We had dozens of boards none of us who actually > work at this wanted and we sure as heck didn't need them. I really do > understand why that was financially necessary. Well - that didn't > produce enough income to keep the project afloat. So - along comes the > sell out to Ancestry. It is not Bryan's or Karen's fault. They worked > long and hard and put their own money into the project for years! The > problem is/was that the visiting public would not support the project > even with as little as $12.00 a month! It's entirely possible that some > of the state and county admins never kicked in any money either. If even > half the people who used the sites had sent in that twelve bucks; > perhaps the project could have continued as it was envisioned. Agreed. I was sad to see the Genealogical Cooperative ideal die, too. But obviously it wasn't viable in the new commercial web atmosphere. <sigh> > On my Fayette County Iowa USGenWeb site, volunteers had typed in over > 400 bios and obits. I don't even know how many queries there were; there > were about 50 will extracts. Now, all a visitor will get by clicking on > one of the board icons is a constant try to connect to ancestry, on and > on and on! I have two other counties; I don't have the heart to go see > what is happening there. What am I supposed to tell all those > volunteers? I really loved the boards; they made it so easy for a > visitor or a volunteer to post information that researchers need! I've > wondered over the past couple of years why all county admins didn't take > advantage of what the boards had to offer. NOW I KNOW! I don't -- I never understood why anyone would use any other system. After testing the new boards, I think that they are the ONLY thing better than GenConnect was. I had 17 sets of boards, so you know I was a big fan. > I don't know what will happen to the data posted on the county pages > that isn't on a board. I suspect that someone at ancestry.dam will find > a way to screw it up also. I don't understand what you mean. All of the data IS still there, and more easily found than ever. > I guess it's true that one gets what they pay for. Doesn't seem quite > fair that those of us who DID pay for Rootsweb are NOT getting what we > paid for. There are no free rides, even on the internet. I will really > mourn Rootsweb - as far as I'm concerned - it died. We should all have > known better from the beginning. NOTHING is free! Except the time and > heart and effort we have put into all those sites. I guess they aren't > ours anymore; they belong to ancestry. The use of these boards remains free. Of course it's true that Ancestry has to make money, just as Brian and Karen did, or the entire enterprise will disappear. The lists, websites and User Databases are free also.... > By the way, David, if you are still reading this stuff - this is just > one example of why I never would allow the info on my county pages to be > duplicated in the archives. I predict that it will not be long before > you see all the information in those archives burned on a cd for sale by > ancestry. My main dilemma right now is whether to pull all my counties > down quickly or hide and watch for awhile. It *cannot* be "burned onto a CD for sale by ancestry." They don't own the posts & pages, and ALL contributors were promised that none of their information would ever be published via CD, for sale, or for free. I think you are limited yourself by not allowing the information into the Archives, where it is easily searchable. But that's just my opinion, and I'm not a USGW person -- just a listowner and board admin. > NOW THIS IS REALLY FUNNY - we in the USGenWeb have an election going on > just now. FOR WHAT? What difference does it make??????? Can we vote away > ancestry and all the garbage that came with it? Afraid not. > > Linnie Hoover Howell > cc for three USGenWeb Counties As I understand it, you need not put your county site on Rootsweb, and I know that many sites are elsewhere. Am I mistaken? Valorie Zimmerman Black Diamond, Washington USA Listowner for 15 lists, board admin for 17 surnames Rootsweb volunteer on the Help Desk