what is happing is in netscape 4 if you click the first link it takes you to the second link and I am not sure why ----- Original Message ----- From: Bare67deb@aol.com To: belle@bigcountry.net ; RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] bowser problem In a message dated 08/22/2001 8:41:16 AM Central Daylight Time, belle@bigcountry.net writes: can I get yall to go to this link it see if it works I have a lady that says when she goes here it http://www.garden.rootsweb.com/~garden-ponds/photos/lisa/lisa.htm take it takes her here http://www.garden.rootsweb.com/~garden-ponds/photos/lisa/overlib.css and I am not sure why Belle I get Lisas and Carls Pond on the first one and an error on the second address. Debbie Clough G-erischer G-erischer Family Web Site http://gerischer.rootsweb.com/ Assistant CC, Iowa Gen Web, Scott County http://www.rootsweb.com/~iascott/scott.htm List Manager for: IASCOTT-L * G-erischer-L * D-encker-L Fitzpatirck-L * V-lerebome-L * Huntington-L * Otis-L * Algar-L EIGS-L * Pickens-L * McNab-L * Patris-L

can I get yall to go to this link it see if it works I have a lady that says when she goes here it http://www.garden.rootsweb.com/~garden-ponds/photos/lisa/lisa.htm take it takes her here http://www.garden.rootsweb.com/~garden-ponds/photos/lisa/overlib.css and I am not sure why Belle

<snip> [someone wrote] Once more, Outlook manages to weasel its way into a totally unrelated application and ruin things for everyone. Can't we just declare Outlook to be a virus and ban it? <snip> In reality, the problem is not really the applications Outlook or Outlook Express but the fact that these two are the leading email applications in use worldwide. In the way that Internet Explorer is the leading browser, AOL is the leading Online Service Provider, and Windows is the leading Operating System. The security problems do not lie as much with these applications but with the following attitude of "hackers": "If I want to spread virii and TJs [Trojan Horse programs]to the widest possible number of computers then I have to configure them to get into Windows 9x or ME, Outlook and Outlook Express, and Internet Explorer. I could make it work with Pegasus or Linux but who uses that stuff?" words of a self proclaimed "hacker". So, by that token, if everyone migrates to Eudora and Netscape on a Linux platform then hackers will just change their method of attack to get those applications. Eudora, Netscape, and Linux are no safer security wise than Outlook, it's just that hackers are not targeting them. just a thought... CoachT

At 01:09 AM 08/18/2001 -0600, W. David Samuelsen wrote: >Since there are some sites using PDF, this alert came through >very good source - Edupage newsletter. The virus alerts through >this newsletter are extreme rare and posted only if there is >concerns. > >NEW VIRUS SPREADS USING ACROBAT FILES >Portable Document Format (PDF) files used in Adobe Acrobat are >susceptible to an experimental virus, according to analysis by >HispaSec Sistemas head Bernardo Quinteros and Privacy Foundation >CTO Richard M. Smith. Quinteros and Smith say the virus, >Outlook.pdf, embeds itself in PDF files via Outlook. Users who >open the file with Acrobat are encouraged to click on an image >of a peach, thus releasing the virus. The e-mail addresses in >Outlook's Address Book and its folder are used to spread >Outlook.pdf. "Since PDF files are considered safe by Internet >Explorer, it means that Acrobat security holes are easy to >exploit from Web pages and HTML e-mail messages," warned Smith. >(InfoWorld.com, 8 August 2001) Thanks, David. Once more, Outlook manages to weasel its way into a totally unrelated application and ruin things for everyone. Can't we just declare Outlook to be a virus and ban it? Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://www.capaccess.org/com/troop763/ http://www.fortunecity.com/millennium/blyton/772/ (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

David, Thank you for bringing this virus to our attention for like you said many many genealogy sites are employing Adobe Acrobat files - like one of my sites, State of CT websites, etc... This virus is called: VBSpeachyPDF@mm. It is a worm type of virus that disguises itself as a *.pdf file - one created with Adobe Acrobat. However, it functions only when opened in the **full** version of Adobe Acrobat not with Adobe Reader. It is included in Norton Anti-Virus definitions and I suspect in the other AV programs. At the moment it appears those with only the freebie Acrobat Reader on-board have nothing to fear with it - only those with the full blown Adobe Acrobat program - like me. :( Here is more about it. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/vbs.peachypdf@mm.html With all the viruses running rampant these days I highly recommend everyone enable their Anti-Virus Auto Protection, enable their E-mail Protection, up-date their AV programs once a week and scan their whole computer at least once a week. In the past 3 weeks I have received via E-mail the SirCam virus at least 18 times!!!! I have not been affect with it for religiously check every attachment I receive. But the scary part of this particular virus is that Norton E-mail Protection does not detect it as yet - Its Auto-Protection does. Norton readily admits this problem: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2001072315182006?Open&src=w I suspect the many many virus attachments I've receive came from subscribers of some of these genealogy mail lists. Now I'm not saying it came via the mail lists for RootsWeb does not allow files to be sent to the mail lists. The rash of these virus attachments came after I had posted replies on a couple of the lists. I suspect people kept copies of my messages in their Email program. They then got effected with the virus; the virus replicated itself; and it sent itself out to every E-mail address it found in the person(s) E-mail program or/and My Document folder and I was one of them - lucky me. :( Moral of the virus story is to have auto-protect ***and*** e-mail protection enabled and up-to-date!!!! --- Susan SGTAYLOR1@att.net My Genealogy Website - sgt http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/ ----------------------------------------------- USGW Mansfield, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/mansfield.html USGW New London, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/newlondon.html USGW Norwich, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/norwich.html USGW Windham, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/windham.html USGW Coordinator Plymouth Co., MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ USGW Plymouth, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/ ********************************************************* At 01:09 AM 8/18/01 -0600, W. David Samuelsen wrote: >Since there are some sites using PDF, this alert came through >very good source - Edupage newsletter. The virus alerts through >this newsletter are extreme rare and posted only if there is >concerns. > >NEW VIRUS SPREADS USING ACROBAT FILES >Portable Document Format (PDF) files used in Adobe Acrobat are >susceptible to an experimental virus, according to analysis by >HispaSec Sistemas head Bernardo Quinteros and Privacy Foundation >CTO Richard M. Smith. Quinteros and Smith say the virus, >Outlook.pdf, embeds itself in PDF files via Outlook. Users who >open the file with Acrobat are encouraged to click on an image >of a peach, thus releasing the virus. The e-mail addresses in >Outlook's Address Book and its folder are used to spread >Outlook.pdf. "Since PDF files are considered safe by Internet >Explorer, it means that Acrobat security holes are easy to >exploit from Web pages and HTML e-mail messages," warned Smith. >(InfoWorld.com, 8 August 2001) > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Since there are some sites using PDF, this alert came through very good source - Edupage newsletter. The virus alerts through this newsletter are extreme rare and posted only if there is concerns. NEW VIRUS SPREADS USING ACROBAT FILES Portable Document Format (PDF) files used in Adobe Acrobat are susceptible to an experimental virus, according to analysis by HispaSec Sistemas head Bernardo Quinteros and Privacy Foundation CTO Richard M. Smith. Quinteros and Smith say the virus, Outlook.pdf, embeds itself in PDF files via Outlook. Users who open the file with Acrobat are encouraged to click on an image of a peach, thus releasing the virus. The e-mail addresses in Outlook's Address Book and its folder are used to spread Outlook.pdf. "Since PDF files are considered safe by Internet Explorer, it means that Acrobat security holes are easy to exploit from Web pages and HTML e-mail messages," warned Smith. (InfoWorld.com, 8 August 2001)

In a message dated 8/14/01 8:59:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ahern@world.std.com writes: > > Like I said, any mailing list that was not grandfathered (created > > before the clusters/merger) automatically have the taglines. > > Well, they are there in ours and I didn't put them there. In fact, when I > go to the Taglines page of the list admin page I find that there are no > taglines entered at all. As for the grandparentage, I was the admin for > this list before the recent merger and it seems like some things must have > been done without my intervention. Dennis- First of all, the merger between Ancestry.com and RootsWeb.com took place over a year ago--it wasn't recent. Second, the commercial taglines were added to non-sponsored lists by RootsWeb over a year prior to the merger with Ancestry.com--so they date back to mid 1999 although they weren't always used for anything more than advertising RootsWeb services themselves for a time. When a list is subject to mandatory commercial taglines the list admin won't see them on his Tools page--they exist in addition to the optional taglines set by the admin. > > > go to your mailing list utilities and check customize and see > > if there is button to unclick for commercial taglines. > > I see no such button. This would indicate that you list is subject to mandatory commercial taglines. > > > And as for "check her for latest in CDs from Ancestry.com" - if > > it is in 3 line tagline - nothing you can do unless you are list > > admin and go to your mailing list utilities to check and see if the > > button is there or not. > > No, these were not three line tags, but rather separate emails from our > "sponsor" touting the latest in purchasable material. I do not mind these > myself, but others seem to be taking exception to these unsolicited > importunings. Separate emails (as opposed to commercial taglines) are NOT connected to your mailing list and/or the gateway from the message board. These would be coming to you from a different source. I think others have already explained to you how to "uncheck" the boxes that are causing these messages to be sent to you about various Ancestry products or services. Joan

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, W. David Samuelsen wrote: > taglines in every mail from query board??? I haven't seen any in > mine at all. > > Like I said, any mailing list that was not grandfathered (created > before the clusters/merger) automatically have the taglines. Well, they are there in ours and I didn't put them there. In fact, when I go to the Taglines page of the list admin page I find that there are no taglines entered at all. As for the grandparentage, I was the admin for this list before the recent merger and it seems like some things must have been done without my intervention. > go to your mailing list utilities and check customize and see > if there is button to unclick for commercial taglines. I see no such button. > And as for "check her for latest in CDs from Ancestry.com" - if > it is in 3 line tagline - nothing you can do unless you are list > admin and go to your mailing list utilities to check and see if the > button is there or not. No, these were not three line tags, but rather separate emails from our "sponsor" touting the latest in purchasable material. I do not mind these myself, but others seem to be taking exception to these unsolicited importunings. > And secondly, all surname boards are automatically gatewayed > unless requested otherwise, or place gc-gateway@rootsweb.com on > reject list. You will see the difference. Automatic gatewaying is what we want. Automatic additon to some potential customer list is not. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I just want to clarify one point. Where David said: Dennis Ahern wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, W. David Samuelsen wrote: . > > Grandfathered mailing lists don't have commercial taglines added > > at all. Those are the ones that were before the merger of over > > a year ago. > > We've had our list for a lot more than a year, but when they redid the > message board system recently we all of a sudden started getting these > taglines on every mail from the query board. . The dividing line as to whether a list has commercial taglines or not doesn't have anything to do with the merger at all. Before the cluster lists were created, the only lists and boards Rootsweb had, besides the USGW and Maiser lists, were ones where the listowner was a financial contributor. None of those lists had commercial taglines. When the Communities and cluster lists were created, they ALL had commercial taglines, and always WILL have. That is how they were supported financially. If you adopt a "sponsored/untagged" list directly from the listowner, you can decide whether or not to have the commercial taglines added to your list posts. I personally almost always have them turned on -- one more way to support Rootsweb. If you adopt a list from the list of adoptables, however, it will have taglines. If you are a former contributor and ask to have a list created for you, it will have no taglines unless you choose to have them. Whether or not a post is gatewayed will have NO influence on whether or not it is taglined. That will be determined by the list settings. Valorie PS: Yes, to answer the title of this post -- Ancestry IS using the lists for ads, when they don't sell the ad space to someone else. They do NOT, however, send anyone anything they don't ask for. Come on people -- if Ancestry doesn't succeed financially, We Will Have No Rootsweb. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

now you are making more clear - go to ancestry.com where you check for your password - there is one section - unclick the list of newsletters there. This will stop those newsletters. I get only 1 newsletter daily because that is one I wanted to get. I don't get any other newsletters I don't want from them because I unclicked all the ones I don't want. David Samuelsen Dennis Ahern wrote: > > You are missing my point. The advertising emails she got only started > after she had been subscribed to the listserver. They are not from the > listerver, but she saw that they were from Ancestry.com and she had not > subscribed to anything from Ancestry. The emails she was getting were > lengthy ads for products. I get them too, but I figured I was getting them > because I may have bought something from them, or used some service. > > -dja > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, W. David Samuelsen wrote: > > > taglines in every mail from query board??? I haven't seen any in > > mine at all. > > > > Like I said, any mailing list that was not grandfathered (created > > before the clusters/merger) automatically have the taglines. > > > > go to your mailing list utilities and check customize and see > > if there is button to unclick for commercial taglines. > > > > And as for "check her for latest in CDs from Ancestry.com" - if > > it is in 3 line tagline - nothing you can do unless you are list > > admin and go to your mailing list utilities to check and see if the > > button is there or not. > > > > And secondly, all surname boards are automatically gatewayed > > unless requested otherwise, or place gc-gateway@rootsweb.com on > > reject list. You will see the difference. > > > > David > > > > Dennis Ahern wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, W. David Samuelsen wrote: > > > > > > > those are taglines. Worldconnect is not an ad at all. It is a > > > > resource site. The others are Ancestry's and one of them isn't an > > > > advertisement at all. It's a library resource! And they are NOT > > > > using emails to build up their distribution lists. If you want > > > > > > You misunderstood my post. The person who complained was citing these > > > taglines she sees on the bottom of the listerver mails as being the same > > > places she is getting unwanted ads from, you know the ones - "Here is a > > > list of the latest CDs from Ancestry.com - click here to purchase" etc. > > > > > > > Grandfathered mailing lists don't have commercial taglines added > > > > at all. Those are the ones that were before the merger of over > > > > a year ago. > > > > > > We've had our list for a lot more than a year, but when they redid the > > > message board system recently we all of a sudden started getting these > > > taglines on every mail from the query board. > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website > > > Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, W. David Samuelsen wrote: > those are taglines. Worldconnect is not an ad at all. It is a > resource site. The others are Ancestry's and one of them isn't an > advertisement at all. It's a library resource! And they are NOT > using emails to build up their distribution lists. If you want You misunderstood my post. The person who complained was citing these taglines she sees on the bottom of the listerver mails as being the same places she is getting unwanted ads from, you know the ones - "Here is a list of the latest CDs from Ancestry.com - click here to purchase" etc. > Grandfathered mailing lists don't have commercial taglines added > at all. Those are the ones that were before the merger of over > a year ago. We've had our list for a lot more than a year, but when they redid the message board system recently we all of a sudden started getting these taglines on every mail from the query board. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

taglines in every mail from query board??? I haven't seen any in mine at all. Like I said, any mailing list that was not grandfathered (created before the clusters/merger) automatically have the taglines. go to your mailing list utilities and check customize and see if there is button to unclick for commercial taglines. And as for "check her for latest in CDs from Ancestry.com" - if it is in 3 line tagline - nothing you can do unless you are list admin and go to your mailing list utilities to check and see if the button is there or not. And secondly, all surname boards are automatically gatewayed unless requested otherwise, or place gc-gateway@rootsweb.com on reject list. You will see the difference. David Dennis Ahern wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, W. David Samuelsen wrote: > > > those are taglines. Worldconnect is not an ad at all. It is a > > resource site. The others are Ancestry's and one of them isn't an > > advertisement at all. It's a library resource! And they are NOT > > using emails to build up their distribution lists. If you want > > You misunderstood my post. The person who complained was citing these > taglines she sees on the bottom of the listerver mails as being the same > places she is getting unwanted ads from, you know the ones - "Here is a > list of the latest CDs from Ancestry.com - click here to purchase" etc. > > > Grandfathered mailing lists don't have commercial taglines added > > at all. Those are the ones that were before the merger of over > > a year ago. > > We've had our list for a lot more than a year, but when they redid the > message board system recently we all of a sudden started getting these > taglines on every mail from the query board. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website > Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

I just had someone unsubscribe from a list I maintain because she was getting too much junk mail. When I challenged her that I would notice any junk mail becuase I am on the same list, she clarified that what she was getting other emails since she subscribed to the list as follows: >I can say I have received independent e mails from the listed >sites below. They are found in the bottom portion of many of the >e-mail's I received from the [listserver]. >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com My interpretation of this is that Ancestry.com is building email distribution lists from the email that gets forwarded through their system every time someone posts a query or other message to a board that has automatic forwarding. I do notice that all such messages get an Ancestry tagline appended to the bottom of the message. My uderstanding was that these listservers were supposed to be protected from SPAMmers, but if the fox is guarding the chickencoop, then we have no way of protecting our subscribers from unwanted advertising. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

those are taglines. Worldconnect is not an ad at all. It is a resource site. The others are Ancestry's and one of them isn't an advertisement at all. It's a library resource! And they are NOT using emails to build up their distribution lists. If you want to get advertisements from Ancestry - go to their site and click on the list of newsletters to be sent. NO one on Rootsweb lists are spammed unless they subscribed to Ancestry's OWN lists. Grandfathered mailing lists don't have commercial taglines added at all. Those are the ones that were before the merger of over a year ago. Nothing to be alarmed about. This has been going on for long time and nobody bothered until her. Yahoogroups have the most obnoxious taglines anywhere because they insert theirs above the list's own taglines. W. David Samuelsen Dennis Ahern wrote: > > I just had someone unsubscribe from a list I maintain because she was > getting too much junk mail. When I challenged her that I would notice any > junk mail becuase I am on the same list, she clarified that what she was > getting other emails since she subscribed to the list as follows: > > >I can say I have received independent e mails from the listed > >sites below. They are found in the bottom portion of many of the > >e-mail's I received from the [listserver]. > > >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > My interpretation of this is that Ancestry.com is building email > distribution lists from the email that gets forwarded through their system > every time someone posts a query or other message to a board that has > automatic forwarding. I do notice that all such messages get an Ancestry > tagline appended to the bottom of the message. My uderstanding was that > these listservers were supposed to be protected from SPAMmers, but if the > fox is guarding the chickencoop, then we have no way of protecting our > subscribers from unwanted advertising. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website > Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

I subscribed for digest version on Aug. 5 and was added to your list but I have not received anything yet. Barbara Howland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

I've noticed that the lists are REALLY slow, including this one. Everyone is either off on vacation (hopefully transcribing gravestones, or something), or just trying to stay cool. Ask your questions, Barbara, and someone will put up an answer! I see that your subject line is "subscribing rural carriers" -- are you having trouble subscribing to the Rural Carriers list? Did you get a Welcome Message in receipt of your subscription attempt? Valorie Barbara Howland wrote: > > I subscribed for digest version on Aug. 5 and was added to your list but I > have not received anything yet. Barbara Howland

At 10/08/2001 20:42 -0500, Christopher Richards wrote: >I've lost the code for the hits counter that I had on my homepage. (I >upgraded the site and the upgraded page didn't include the counter). I >seem to remember that I originally found the code somewhere on Rootsweb but >I've no idea how to refind it! >Can somebody help please. > Christopher Richards That section was redesigned and the part concerning the counters moved to: URL: http://counter.rootsweb.com/Counter.html Regards, Luc Matthijs Evere (Brussels, Belgium) mailto:luc.matthijs@advalvas.be | http://profiles.yahoo.com/lucmatt Team member BELGIUM-ROOTS mailto:belgium-roots@advalvas.be List: http://belgium.rootsweb.com/_ml/index.html | Site: http://belgium.rootsweb.com/ Boards: http://boards.rootsweb.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.weurope.belgium/

Hi Betty, It isn't fancy, but the following code is what I use on the Colquitt County GA site and I got it from Rootsweb: <CENTER><I>You are our&nbsp;<!--#exec cgi="/cgi-bin/counterord"--> visitor since April 27, 2001 -- thanks for stopping by!</I></CENTER> &nbsp; You can see it in action at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/ Jacki At 08:42 PM 8/10/2001 -0500, you wrote: >I've lost the code for the hits counter that I had on my homepage. (I >upgraded the site and the upgraded page didn't include the counter). I >seem to remember that I originally found the code somewhere on Rootsweb but >I've no idea how to refind it! >Can somebody help please. > Christopher Richards > > > > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > Jacki Colquitt County GenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/

I've lost the code for the hits counter that I had on my homepage. (I upgraded the site and the upgraded page didn't include the counter). I seem to remember that I originally found the code somewhere on Rootsweb but I've no idea how to refind it! Can somebody help please. Christopher Richards

> I had an other member try to upload from my user id and they got the same message, when they have no trouble with there user id can the problem be with the id account? > > Error: level=500 tag= > File doesn't seem to be a valid gedcom file, not processing: C:\My > Documents\amosR.paf the .paf above in the file name is your problem. This is a paf file, NOT a gedcom file. You can ONLY upload gedcom files to World Connect. A paf file and a gedcom file are NOT the same file. You need to make a gedcom file [the name must end with the extention .ged] and upload this file to World Connect. Fleta