Yes... Done that several times. Thanks, tho'! Janelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Dav4is" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on users. rootsweb.com? Have you tried rebooting your computer? -R. Janelle Martin wrote: >I haven't been able to get a Remote Connection for several days. I can see >my website title, but the Remote box is blank. I get a Connection Error >message. >Connection Error >This could be caused by any of the following reasons: > a.. Your network connection is down. > b.. The host address is incorrect. > c.. The server you are attempting to connect with is not available. >Details: >Finding Host users.rootsweb.com ... > >[2007.05.23 16:34:54.187] Connecting to 66.43.27.22:21 > >[2007.05.23 16:34:54.203] Connected to 66.43.27.22:21 in 0.015625 seconds, >Waiting for Server Response > >[2007.05.23 16:35:59.718] Error result 80042003 reading response line > >[2007.05.23 16:35:59.718] Connection closed by remote host. > >[2007.05.23 16:35:59.718] Host type (1): Automatic Detect > >I've tried turning off Passive as recommended. Nothing. >Turned Passive back on. Nothing. >HELP!! >Janelle > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:20 AM >Subject: ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 > > > > >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Ron Dailey) >> 2. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? >> ([email protected]) >> 3. subscribe (Ron Dailey) >> 4. Re: subscribe (Judy Florian) >> 5. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Judy Florian) >> 6. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Patricia Geary) >> 7. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Rod Dav4is) >> 8. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (SouthPawPhilly) >> 9. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? >> ([email protected]) >> 10. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Judy Florian) >> 11. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (SouthPawPhilly) >> 12. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (SouthPawPhilly) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:24:05 -0400 >>From: "Ron Dailey" <[email protected]> >>Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: >><[email protected]net> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? I have been trying to upload >>files for two days and can't seem to get a connection to any ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com. >> >> >> >>Thanks for any help! >> >> >> >>- Ron >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 2 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:28:35 EDT >>From: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com? >>To: [email protected], [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> >>In a message dated 5/23/2007 9:24:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >>What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? I have been trying to >>upload >>files for two days and can't seem to get a connection to any ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com. >> >> >> >> >>Ron- >> >>RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn >>off >>passive transfers and see if that works for you. >> >>Joan >> >> >> >>************************************** See what's free at >>http://www.aol.com. >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 3 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:30:10 -0400 >>From: "Ron Dailey" <[email protected]> >>Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] subscribe >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: >><[email protected]net> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>subscribe >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 4 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:39:27 -0400 >>From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] subscribe >>To: [email protected], [email protected] >>Message-ID: >><[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>Hi, >> >>You need to send the subscribe command (or unsubscribe) to this email: >>[email protected] >> >>You just forgot the part that says -request that sends it to the automatic >>sub/unsub service. >> >>Judy >> >> >>On 5/23/07, Ron Dailey <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>subscribe >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 5 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:47:20 -0400 >>From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com? >>To: [email protected], [email protected] >>Message-ID: >><[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >>not >>passive??? There is no check box that I can find! >>Judy >> >> >>On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>Ron- >>> >>>RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn >>>off >>>passive transfers and see if that works for you. >>> >>>Joan >>> >>> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 6 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:54:37 -0400 >>From: Patricia Geary <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com? >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >>At 12:47 PM 5/23/2007, Judy Florian wrote: >> >> >>>Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >>>not >>>passive??? There is no check box that I can find! >>> >>> >>According to MS, there is no option http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320282 >> >>When you use FrontPage 2002 or FrontPage 2000 to publish through the >>File Transfer Protocol (FTP), there is no option to use passive-mode >>FTP. FrontPage 2002 and FrontPage 2000 only use active-mode FTP. >> >>Not sure what the answer is. >> >>pat >> >> >>---------- >>Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage >>We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ >> >>Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials >>http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ >>http://www.blog.family-genealogy-online.com/ >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 7 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:57:37 -0400 >>From: Rod Dav4is <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com? >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>There was a FTP hiccup yesterday afternoon which hung up my FTP client >>for several hours. After uploading one file using the RW FileManager, my >>FTP client was then able to connect just fine, and remains functional >>today -- using PASV mode, I might add! >> >>Judy Florian wrote: >> >> >> >>>Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >>>not >>>passive??? There is no check box that I can find! >>>Judy >>> >>> >>>On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Ron- >>>> >>>>RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn >>>>off >>>>passive transfers and see if that works for you. >>>> >>>>Joan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA >>Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ >>476 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17?-19? century >>New England & European roots. Total population: 115,600+ >>Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ >>email: [email protected] >>The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42. >>-Hitchhitchers Guide to the Galaxy >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 8 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:01:47 -0400 >>From: SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com? >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: >><[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>What about FileZilla? >> >>I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is >>happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. >> >>Joan Asche >> >>On 5/23/07, Judy Florian <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >>>not >>>passive??? There is no check box that I can find! >>>Judy >>> >>> >>>On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Ron- >>>> >>>>RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. >>>>Turn >>>>off >>>>passive transfers and see if that works for you. >>>> >>>>Joan >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 9 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:05:00 EDT >>From: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com? >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> >>In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >>I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is >>happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. >> >>Joan Asche >> >> >> >>They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. >> >>Joan >> >> >> >>************************************** See what's free at >>http://www.aol.com. >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 10 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:14:33 -0400 >>From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com? >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: >><[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>Grrrrrr Well at least they turned it back on. >> >>I *hope* someone told them how much it will inconvenience everyone if they >>don't leave it as passive. >> >>Judy >> >>On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >>>[email protected] writes: >>> >>>I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is >>>happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. >>> >>>Joan Asche >>> >>> >>> >>>They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. >>> >>>Joan >>> >>> >>> >>>************************************** See what's free at >>>http://www.aol.com. >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 11 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:17:46 -0400 >>From: SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com? >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: >><[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>No it isn't back to normal. :-) >> >>On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >>>[email protected] writes: >>> >>>I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is >>>happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. >>> >>>Joan Asche >>> >>> >>> >>>They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. >>> >>>Joan >>> >>> >>> >>>************************************** See what's free at >>>http://www.aol.com. >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 12 >>Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:19:56 -0400 >>From: SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on >>users.rootsweb.com? >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: >><[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>Now it is back to normal!! >> >>Joan >> >>On 5/23/07, SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>No it isn't back to normal. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------ >> >>To contact the ROOTSWEB-HELP list administrator, send an email to >>[email protected] >> >>To post a message to the ROOTSWEB-HELP mailing list, send an email to >>[email protected] >> >>__________________________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] >>with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >>of the >>email with no additional text. >> >> >>End of ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 >>******************************************** >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ 476 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 115,600+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: [email protected] The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42. -Hitchhitchers Guide to the Galaxy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I haven't been able to get a Remote Connection for several days. I can see my website title, but the Remote box is blank. I get a Connection Error message. Connection Error This could be caused by any of the following reasons: a.. Your network connection is down. b.. The host address is incorrect. c.. The server you are attempting to connect with is not available. Details: Finding Host users.rootsweb.com ... [2007.05.23 16:34:54.187] Connecting to 66.43.27.22:21 [2007.05.23 16:34:54.203] Connected to 66.43.27.22:21 in 0.015625 seconds, Waiting for Server Response [2007.05.23 16:35:59.718] Error result 80042003 reading response line [2007.05.23 16:35:59.718] Connection closed by remote host. [2007.05.23 16:35:59.718] Host type (1): Automatic Detect I've tried turning off Passive as recommended. Nothing. Turned Passive back on. Nothing. HELP!! Janelle ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Ron Dailey) > 2. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? > ([email protected]) > 3. subscribe (Ron Dailey) > 4. Re: subscribe (Judy Florian) > 5. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Judy Florian) > 6. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Patricia Geary) > 7. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Rod Dav4is) > 8. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (SouthPawPhilly) > 9. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? > ([email protected]) > 10. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Judy Florian) > 11. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (SouthPawPhilly) > 12. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (SouthPawPhilly) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:24:05 -0400 > From: "Ron Dailey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? I have been trying to upload > files for two days and can't seem to get a connection to any ftp on > users.rootsweb.com. > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > - Ron > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:28:35 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 5/23/2007 9:24:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? I have been trying to > upload > files for two days and can't seem to get a connection to any ftp on > users.rootsweb.com. > > > > > Ron- > > RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn > off > passive transfers and see if that works for you. > > Joan > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:30:10 -0400 > From: "Ron Dailey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] subscribe > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > subscribe > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:39:27 -0400 > From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] subscribe > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi, > > You need to send the subscribe command (or unsubscribe) to this email: > [email protected] > > You just forgot the part that says -request that sends it to the automatic > sub/unsub service. > > Judy > > > On 5/23/07, Ron Dailey <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> subscribe >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:47:20 -0400 > From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, > not > passive??? There is no check box that I can find! > Judy > > > On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Ron- >> >> RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn >> off >> passive transfers and see if that works for you. >> >> Joan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:54:37 -0400 > From: Patricia Geary <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 12:47 PM 5/23/2007, Judy Florian wrote: >>Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >>not >>passive??? There is no check box that I can find! > > > According to MS, there is no option http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320282 > > When you use FrontPage 2002 or FrontPage 2000 to publish through the > File Transfer Protocol (FTP), there is no option to use passive-mode > FTP. FrontPage 2002 and FrontPage 2000 only use active-mode FTP. > > Not sure what the answer is. > > pat > > > ---------- > Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage > We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ > > Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials > http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ > http://www.blog.family-genealogy-online.com/ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:57:37 -0400 > From: Rod Dav4is <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > There was a FTP hiccup yesterday afternoon which hung up my FTP client > for several hours. After uploading one file using the RW FileManager, my > FTP client was then able to connect just fine, and remains functional > today -- using PASV mode, I might add! > > Judy Florian wrote: > >>Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >>not >>passive??? There is no check box that I can find! >>Judy >> >> >>On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>Ron- >>> >>>RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn >>>off >>>passive transfers and see if that works for you. >>> >>>Joan >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA > Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ > 476 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17?-19? century > New England & European roots. Total population: 115,600+ > Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ > email: [email protected] > The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42. > -Hitchhitchers Guide to the Galaxy > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:01:47 -0400 > From: SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > What about FileZilla? > > I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is > happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. > > Joan Asche > > On 5/23/07, Judy Florian <[email protected]> wrote: >> Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >> not >> passive??? There is no check box that I can find! >> Judy >> >> >> On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Ron- >> > >> > RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. >> > Turn >> > off >> > passive transfers and see if that works for you. >> > >> > Joan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:05:00 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is > happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. > > Joan Asche > > > > They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. > > Joan > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:14:33 -0400 > From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Grrrrrr Well at least they turned it back on. > > I *hope* someone told them how much it will inconvenience everyone if they > don't leave it as passive. > > Judy > > On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is >> happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. >> >> Joan Asche >> >> >> >> They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. >> >> Joan >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:17:46 -0400 > From: SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > No it isn't back to normal. :-) > > On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is >> happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. >> >> Joan Asche >> >> >> >> They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. >> >> Joan >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:19:56 -0400 > From: SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Now it is back to normal!! > > Joan > > On 5/23/07, SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> wrote: >> No it isn't back to normal. :-) >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ROOTSWEB-HELP list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ROOTSWEB-HELP mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 > ******************************************** >

Now it is back to normal!! Joan On 5/23/07, SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> wrote: > No it isn't back to normal. :-) >

No it isn't back to normal. :-) On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is > happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. > > Joan Asche > > > > They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. > > Joan > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Grrrrrr Well at least they turned it back on. I *hope* someone told them how much it will inconvenience everyone if they don't leave it as passive. Judy On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is > happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. > > Joan Asche > > > > They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. > > Joan > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. Joan Asche They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. Joan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

What about FileZilla? I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. Joan Asche On 5/23/07, Judy Florian <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, not > passive??? There is no check box that I can find! > Judy > > > On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Ron- > > > > RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn > > off > > passive transfers and see if that works for you. > > > > Joan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There was a FTP hiccup yesterday afternoon which hung up my FTP client for several hours. After uploading one file using the RW FileManager, my FTP client was then able to connect just fine, and remains functional today -- using PASV mode, I might add! Judy Florian wrote: >Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, not >passive??? There is no check box that I can find! >Judy > > >On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>Ron- >> >>RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn >>off >>passive transfers and see if that works for you. >> >>Joan >> >> > > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ 476 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 115,600+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: [email protected] The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42. -Hitchhitchers Guide to the Galaxy

At 12:47 PM 5/23/2007, Judy Florian wrote: >Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, not >passive??? There is no check box that I can find! According to MS, there is no option http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320282 When you use FrontPage 2002 or FrontPage 2000 to publish through the File Transfer Protocol (FTP), there is no option to use passive-mode FTP. FrontPage 2002 and FrontPage 2000 only use active-mode FTP. Not sure what the answer is. pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.blog.family-genealogy-online.com/

Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, not passive??? There is no check box that I can find! Judy On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ron- > > RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn > off > passive transfers and see if that works for you. > > Joan

Hi, You need to send the subscribe command (or unsubscribe) to this email: [email protected] You just forgot the part that says -request that sends it to the automatic sub/unsub service. Judy On 5/23/07, Ron Dailey <[email protected]> wrote: > > subscribe > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It's been a while since I've updated my pages, am I correct in thinking from reading this that everything is back to normal and when I do my next set of edits I won't need to change anything? Thanks for all the info everyone! Lena ____________________________________________________________________________________Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/

Starting yesterday it takes nearly an hour to FTP upload a new file folder with several new files in it. A few days ago it took two or three minutes to upload the same file folder. After taking two minutes to open a link, it uploads the file in a short time, then spends another two minutes opening another link for the next file, then quick upload followed by another two minute delay. Why does it take so much time to open a link, and why does each file have to open another link? I did note each file link changes (the number changes) to a different link to open and upload the next file. So the delays are not caused by the uploads themselves, but the waits for an ever changing FTP link to open. I use WS FTP95 LE so apparently my FTP program is not at fault.........everyone no matter what FTP program they use are experiencing unacceptable delays in uploading files. A change should be for the better shouldn't it? Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Ron Dailey) > 2. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? > ([email protected]) > 3. subscribe (Ron Dailey) > 4. Re: subscribe (Judy Florian) > 5. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Judy Florian) > 6. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Patricia Geary) > 7. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Rod Dav4is) > 8. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (SouthPawPhilly) > 9. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? > ([email protected]) > 10. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (Judy Florian) > 11. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (SouthPawPhilly) > 12. Re: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? (SouthPawPhilly) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:24:05 -0400 > From: "Ron Dailey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? > To: <ROO[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? I have been trying to upload > files for two days and can't seem to get a connection to any ftp on > users.rootsweb.com. > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > - Ron > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:28:35 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 5/23/2007 9:24:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? I have been trying to > upload > files for two days and can't seem to get a connection to any ftp on > users.rootsweb.com. > > > > > Ron- > > RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn > off > passive transfers and see if that works for you. > > Joan > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:30:10 -0400 > From: "Ron Dailey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] subscribe > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > subscribe > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:39:27 -0400 > From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] subscribe > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi, > > You need to send the subscribe command (or unsubscribe) to this email: > [email protected] > > You just forgot the part that says -request that sends it to the automatic > sub/unsub service. > > Judy > > > On 5/23/07, Ron Dailey <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> subscribe >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:47:20 -0400 > From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, > not > passive??? There is no check box that I can find! > Judy > > > On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Ron- >> >> RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn >> off >> passive transfers and see if that works for you. >> >> Joan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:54:37 -0400 > From: Patricia Geary <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 12:47 PM 5/23/2007, Judy Florian wrote: >>Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >>not >>passive??? There is no check box that I can find! > > > According to MS, there is no option http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320282 > > When you use FrontPage 2002 or FrontPage 2000 to publish through the > File Transfer Protocol (FTP), there is no option to use passive-mode > FTP. FrontPage 2002 and FrontPage 2000 only use active-mode FTP. > > Not sure what the answer is. > > pat > > > ---------- > Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage > We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ > > Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials > http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ > http://www.blog.family-genealogy-online.com/ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:57:37 -0400 > From: Rod Dav4is <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > There was a FTP hiccup yesterday afternoon which hung up my FTP client > for several hours. After uploading one file using the RW FileManager, my > FTP client was then able to connect just fine, and remains functional > today -- using PASV mode, I might add! > > Judy Florian wrote: > >>Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >>not >>passive??? There is no check box that I can find! >>Judy >> >> >>On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>Ron- >>> >>>RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn >>>off >>>passive transfers and see if that works for you. >>> >>>Joan >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA > Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ > 476 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17?-19? century > New England & European roots. Total population: 115,600+ > Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ > email: [email protected] > The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42. > -Hitchhitchers Guide to the Galaxy > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:01:47 -0400 > From: SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > What about FileZilla? > > I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is > happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. > > Joan Asche > > On 5/23/07, Judy Florian <[email protected]> wrote: >> Does anyone know in Frontpage2000 where I can put it to passive or now, >> not >> passive??? There is no check box that I can find! >> Judy >> >> >> On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Ron- >> > >> > RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. >> > Turn >> > off >> > passive transfers and see if that works for you. >> > >> > Joan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:05:00 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is > happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. > > Joan Asche > > > > They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. > > Joan > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:14:33 -0400 > From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Grrrrrr Well at least they turned it back on. > > I *hope* someone told them how much it will inconvenience everyone if they > don't leave it as passive. > > Judy > > On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is >> happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. >> >> Joan Asche >> >> >> >> They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. >> >> Joan >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:17:46 -0400 > From: SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > No it isn't back to normal. :-) > > On 5/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> In a message dated 5/23/2007 1:02:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I change it over to passive on the advanced settings -- Nothing is >> happening. This setting worked for my freepages account. >> >> Joan Asche >> >> >> >> They turned passive back on so things should be back to normal. >> >> Joan >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:19:56 -0400 > From: SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] What happened to ftp on > users.rootsweb.com? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Now it is back to normal!! > > Joan > > On 5/23/07, SouthPawPhilly <[email protected]> wrote: >> No it isn't back to normal. :-) >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ROOTSWEB-HELP list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ROOTSWEB-HELP mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 > ******************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/815 - Release Date: 5/22/2007 > 3:49 PM > >

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In a message dated 5/23/2007 9:24:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? I have been trying to upload files for two days and can't seem to get a connection to any ftp on users.rootsweb.com. Ron- RootsWeb has just made a change in how ftp works on their servers. Turn off passive transfers and see if that works for you. Joan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

What happened to ftp on users.rootsweb.com? I have been trying to upload files for two days and can't seem to get a connection to any ftp on users.rootsweb.com. Thanks for any help! - Ron

Thanks Pat. I have tried twice to contact the person who set this up for the WVGenWeb Project. No answer so far and she has always answered within hours, not days. Since I do not have her account info for response-o-matic, I am not able to follow up on this right now. If I do not hear anything soon I may need to create a new one and go from there. Les At 10:22 AM 5/16/2007, you wrote: >The CC Volunteer form on the WVGenWeb state page is broken. Whenever > >I try to change the file volunteer.htm to writable I receive the > >following error message. > > > >SITE chmod 777 volunteer.htm > >553 Permission denied on server. (chmod) > >! Chmod failed. It may not be supported on remote host. > >Les, > >You don't want to change the permissions for volunteer.htm. That is >your form input page and you don't want your visitors to be able to >change your form. Write permissions should be changed ONLY for an >output page, i.e. a page where the form input is written to an output >page by the server. > >Your form calls a script hosted by >form action="http://www.response-o-matic.com/cgi-bin/rom.pl" > >You will need to contact response-o-matic.com if you are having >problems with their script. > >Pat

At 10:33 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote: >Hello, > >The CC Volunteer form on the WVGenWeb state page is broken. Whenever >I try to change the file volunteer.htm to writable I receive the >following error message. > >SITE chmod 777 volunteer.htm >553 Permission denied on server. (chmod) >! Chmod failed. It may not be supported on remote host. Les, You don't want to change the permissions for volunteer.htm. That is your form input page and you don't want your visitors to be able to change your form. Write permissions should be changed ONLY for an output page, i.e. a page where the form input is written to an output page by the server. Your form calls a script hosted by form action="http://www.response-o-matic.com/cgi-bin/rom.pl" You will need to contact response-o-matic.com if you are having problems with their script. Pat

Hello, The CC Volunteer form on the WVGenWeb state page is broken. Whenever I try to change the file volunteer.htm to writable I receive the following error message. SITE chmod 777 volunteer.htm 553 Permission denied on server. (chmod) ! Chmod failed. It may not be supported on remote host. What have I forgotten or what am I missing? Les Shockey

On Friday 11 May 2007 14:26, Patricia Geary wrote: > At 03:51 PM 5/11/2007, Judy Florian wrote: > >I'd like info from other webmasters about which on-site search engines are > >1. easiest to place the code > >2. index most or all a website > >3. allow the site to be over 250 pgs for FREE > > > >My 3 webs are growing and Freefind and pico are not getting all my pages. > >One site is limited to 250 pgs on one engine. Collectively, I have > > probably 1000 to 1500 pages within 3 cross- linked sites. > > > >Is google search a better option? > > > >Is it easy to set up? > > > >Do I need lists of pages (or folders) to set it up? > > Judy, I played around with the code on this page > http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_can_i_add_a_google_search_box_to_my_web_si >te.html > > I have not used Google search before but this is what it turns out > like http://www.houseofoak.com/search-hoo.htm ::snip:: Does Google still limit their search of your pages to only the first "X" number of characters? That's important if you have long pages, because they would be incompletely searched and indexed. If you have short pages, it shouldn't be a problem. I say "X" because I can't remember the number that used to be their limit. Valorie