In a message dated 8/18/2007 10:22:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have had a complaint from someone about some family history material that another person asked me to post on the Woodruff County, AR web site, and I did. It's about the former person's family and using material that he originally had on another web site. He's also saying that the post is not giving proper credit in the article(s), and that there are copyright problems. He's pretty upset. Never run into this. Does anyone know if there are any policies or procedures about that sort of thing? Gloria coordinator, Woodruff County, Arkansas Gloria- This is a really loaded question! It would require that we know a lot more about the situation than you have presented in order to answer it--and the copyright issues would be better suite to COPYRIGHT-L. That said, my first question is: 1) what is the nature of the family history material posted on your website? If it is merely facts about deceased individuals: names, dates, places and links from one generation to the next--these are not copyrightable. No one can "own" his ancestors or control what other people do with facts. You can only copyright original creative wording and there is nothing your created or that is original about facts. A person may have discovered a fact but he didn't create it and he doesn't own it. So legally, if only facts are involved, it wouldn't matter whether the other person had the information on his website first or not. Of course, ethically, if the person who submitted the data to you lifted it from the other person's research he should have given the other person credit as being the source. Also, if more than just facts are involved -- for instance a narrative family history with original notes -- then there could be copyright to the original content. 2) Has the person complaining to you given you evidence or proof that he did have the material on his website prior to the date the other person submitted the data to you? In other words, can he prove in any way that the data was originally posted by him and isn't your submitter's data? On a related note: have you asked your submitter where he got the data? 3) Do you routinely ask that your submitters submit only data to which they either hold copyright or they have permission to submit (if the data is other than facts)? If not--you should. Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I have had a complaint from someone about some family history material that another person asked me to post on the Woodruff County, AR web site, and I did. It's about the former person's family and using material that he originally had on another web site. He's also saying that the post is not giving proper credit in the article(s), and that there are copyright problems. He's pretty upset. Never run into this. Does anyone know if there are any policies or procedures about that sort of thing? Gloria coordinator, Woodruff County, Arkansas http://www.rootsweb.com/~arwoodru

Not all colors come out the same in all browsers. You have to pick what are called "browser safe colors" in order to display the same effect consistently in Netscape, IE, etc. Google "browser safe colors" for information on how to do this. -dja

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:50:04 -0400, singhals <[email protected]> wrote: >Precisely. So, why would I spend time getting my pages all >pretty on my monitor if most of the world has their browser >set to ignore the webpage specs? I would venture to guess that most of the world has not set their browser to ignore the webpage specs (they probably don't even know they can). -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio [email protected] ******************

Dennis Kowallek wrote: > On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:55:44 -0400, singhals <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>Patricia Geary wrote: >> >> >>>Ask yourself this question "Is Your Background Color Configured?" If >>>you don't know, you might want to read this article >>>http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/background-colors/ >>> >>>Why do I ask? As I look at the pages you include in your signature >>>lines or ask about, quite a few of the ones I check are a pretty >>>shade of pink. Not what you want? Then you need to se your background color. >>> >>>Unfortunately even the "big guys" don't configure their background >>>colors, including RootsWeb. :-) >>> >>>pat >>> >>>Pat Geary >>>Microsoft MVP - FrontPage >> >>Well, sure, but then again -- something like 40% of all >>males and a tiny percentage of females are color >>dysfunctional -- ie., color-blind -- to some extent. If I >>like this nifty shade of orchid or peach and specify, my son >>can't see the page because to him both colors are a shade of >>grey. If I get cute and use a pale pink bgcolor and a medium >>light green text, he's going to see grey on grey. >> >>If the only colors the visitor can see are on grey-scale, >>the visitor is a better judge of what he can see than I am. > > > Your browser can be set to ignore the website's colors, fonts, and > styles and always use the user's settings. > Precisely. So, why would I spend time getting my pages all pretty on my monitor if most of the world has their browser set to ignore the webpage specs? And, when what's being presented is a list of names, if the visitor can see those names easier on his chosen blue-screen or RED ALERT red, why should it matter to me as a web-designer? Cheryl -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

singhals wrote: > > And, when what's being presented is a list of names, if the > visitor can see those names easier on his chosen blue-screen > or RED ALERT red, why should it matter to me as a > web-designer? > > Cheryl Yikes to those particular colors. That's why my pages are all set WHITE. End of discussion. W. David Samuelsen

Judy .... Personally, I just activate Windows Explorer SEARCH mode; type in *.tmp; select file where files are located; ENTER; then, select the temp files I wish to remove/delete and voila they are all gone. HAPPY Hystorical HUNTING !!! K. K. Fitch County Coordinator Linn County Missouri www.rootsweb.com/~molinn or http://linn.mogenweb.org and http://www.mogenweb.org/linn Docent Torrance Historical Society Torrance, Calif., 90501. Associate Editor: The Beacon newsletter of: South Bay Cities Genealogical Society Torrance, California -------------- Original message from "Judy Florian" <[email protected]>: -------------- > Pat G. has previously given a link to Frontpage Cleaner, a program that > cleans up Fp temp files and other settings. > > I wondered if anyone knows how in Photoshop 7 (or with a separate program) > to delete the temp files Photoshop creates? My temp files are numerous > since I work with so many images/photos. > > Judy > > -- > Washington County PA Websites: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I tried to use freefind also and got the same message. So I changed search engines. Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:02 AM Subject: ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 82 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. How do I get more information? (Ruth Rathbone) > 2. Re: How do I get more information? (Judy Florian) > 3. Re: How do I get more information? (nelhatch) > 4. Homepages problem...... (nelhatch) > 5. Re: Homepages problem...... (Ruth Rathbone) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:46:52 +1000 > From: "Ruth Rathbone" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] How do I get more information? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi > > Hoping for help please - my website has just stopped displaying in IE. I > tested the system by trying to update a file on the server and received > the > message: 553 Could not create file. > I upload to: ftp://homepages.rootsweb.com/public_html via the FTP facility > in Frontpage 2003. > > Website is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fleming and was working fine > when > I went to work this morning. > > Many thanks > :) > Ruth Rathbone > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 06:03:30 -0400 > From: "Judy Florian" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] How do I get more information? > To: "Ruth Rathbone" <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 553 points to a file name error usually, especially with Frontpage. Look > carefully for spaces and case. Fp for me rejects any file with a space > and > often with mixed case. > > Here is a list for error codes: > http://www.the-eggman.com/seminars/ftp_error_codes.html > > > Also, look for any file type you added since the last successful update. > For example, I sometimes download a zip directly into MyWebs folder and > then > forget about deleting the zip. Later, my web won't upload. Check > inside those hidden _vni folders too because a copy of bad file type might > be inside. Delete any file types not allowed by RW. > > I also do not find your Index. Have you gone to File Manager to see if > your > web is there? --maybe the index.htm/html file got deleted? Have you > checked > other pages to see if they all come up or are gone? > > Judy > > On 8/7/07, Ruth Rathbone <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Hoping for help please - my website has just stopped displaying in IE. I >> tested the system by trying to update a file on the server and received >> the >> message: 553 Could not create file. >> I upload to: ftp://homepages.rootsweb.com/public_html via the FTP >> facility >> in Frontpage 2003. >> >> Website is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fleming and was working fine >> when >> I went to work this morning. >> >> Many thanks >> :) >> Ruth Rathbone >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Washington County PA Websites: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 07:33:36 -0600 > From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] How do I get more information? > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm > HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > It looks like I have the same problem as Ruth and it appears to involve > homepages. > > My site is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher > > I attempted to upload files last nite and on FTP, when I clicked on > homepages.rootsweb.com on the FTP server screen, it brought up nhatcher in > the upper line and in the box below where my files would appear, I have > only > an empty box. > > When I try to open my site, I receive "webpage cannot be found." > > I use FreeFind to spider my site and this morning, by circumstance, they > had > spidered my site. I received this msg from them.... > ------------------- > > Site URL : http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/ > E-mail : [email protected] > Site ID : 328940 > Pages Read : 1 > > Only one page was indexed on your site. > > This can happen for a number of reasons: > > a) your site has only one page > > (fix: no problem, we indexed your entire site) > > b) there was a network or server problem after your first > page was read (for example your server went down). > ------------------ > > I find no msg on Rootsweb concerning this problem. There is only the msg > that they are moving the Mail List Archives. Has something gone wrong with > this move that has knocked out the homepages system? > > Nel Hatcher > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:36:57 -0600 > From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Homepages problem...... > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > > HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm > HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > I just rec'd a very quick response from the HelpDesk. > > They DO have a problem with "homepages" and are working to fix it as we > speak. > > Nel Hatcher > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:44:04 +1000 > From: "Ruth Rathbone" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Homepages problem...... > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thanks all, > Glitches are gone. > :) > Ruth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:36 AM > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Homepages problem...... > > >> >> HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm >> HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm >> HALL DNA project: >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm >> "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D >> Greenwood >> >> I just rec'd a very quick response from the HelpDesk. >> >> They DO have a problem with "homepages" and are working to fix it as we >> speak. >> >> Nel Hatcher >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ROOTSWEB-HELP list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ROOTSWEB-HELP mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 82 > ******************************************** >

At 02:55 PM 8/8/2007, you wrote: >Well, sure, but then again -- something like 40% of all >males and a tiny percentage of females are color >dysfunctional -- ie., color-blind -- to some extent. If I >like this nifty shade of orchid or peach and specify, my son >can't see the page because to him both colors are a shade of >grey. If I get cute and use a pale pink bgcolor and a medium >light green text, he's going to see grey on grey. > >If the only colors the visitor can see are on grey-scale, >the visitor is a better judge of what he can see than I am. If you specify NO color at all not even white, then it is up to the viewer's browser and how he/she has it set what he/she sees OR what there eyes perceive. All I am saying is that if you don't specify a color no matter what color, it will be seen as maybe white or gray. But for those of us who do set our browsers at some weird color so that we are sure we set our own background color, it will be seen as that color. Your choice to set it or not. pat

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:55:44 -0400, singhals <[email protected]> wrote: >Patricia Geary wrote: > >> Ask yourself this question "Is Your Background Color Configured?" If >> you don't know, you might want to read this article >> http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/background-colors/ >> >> Why do I ask? As I look at the pages you include in your signature >> lines or ask about, quite a few of the ones I check are a pretty >> shade of pink. Not what you want? Then you need to se your background color. >> >> Unfortunately even the "big guys" don't configure their background >> colors, including RootsWeb. :-) >> >> pat >> >> Pat Geary >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage > >Well, sure, but then again -- something like 40% of all >males and a tiny percentage of females are color >dysfunctional -- ie., color-blind -- to some extent. If I >like this nifty shade of orchid or peach and specify, my son >can't see the page because to him both colors are a shade of >grey. If I get cute and use a pale pink bgcolor and a medium >light green text, he's going to see grey on grey. > >If the only colors the visitor can see are on grey-scale, >the visitor is a better judge of what he can see than I am. Your browser can be set to ignore the website's colors, fonts, and styles and always use the user's settings. -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio [email protected] ******************

Patricia Geary wrote: > Ask yourself this question "Is Your Background Color Configured?" If > you don't know, you might want to read this article > http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/background-colors/ > > Why do I ask? As I look at the pages you include in your signature > lines or ask about, quite a few of the ones I check are a pretty > shade of pink. Not what you want? Then you need to se your background color. > > Unfortunately even the "big guys" don't configure their background > colors, including RootsWeb. :-) > > pat > > Pat Geary > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage Well, sure, but then again -- something like 40% of all males and a tiny percentage of females are color dysfunctional -- ie., color-blind -- to some extent. If I like this nifty shade of orchid or peach and specify, my son can't see the page because to him both colors are a shade of grey. If I get cute and use a pale pink bgcolor and a medium light green text, he's going to see grey on grey. If the only colors the visitor can see are on grey-scale, the visitor is a better judge of what he can see than I am. Cheryl -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

Ask yourself this question "Is Your Background Color Configured?" If you don't know, you might want to read this article http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/background-colors/ Why do I ask? As I look at the pages you include in your signature lines or ask about, quite a few of the ones I check are a pretty shade of pink. Not what you want? Then you need to se your background color. Unfortunately even the "big guys" don't configure their background colors, including RootsWeb. :-) pat Pat Geary Microsoft MVP - FrontPage http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/

Ask yourself this question "Is Your Background Color Configured?" If you don't know, you might want to read this article http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/background-colors/ Why do I ask? As I look at the pages you include in your signature lines or ask about, quite a few of the ones I check are a pretty shade of pink. Not what you want? Then you need to se your background color. Unfortunately even the "big guys" don't configure their background colors, including RootsWeb. :-) pat Pat Geary Microsoft MVP - FrontPage http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/

Pat G. has previously given a link to Frontpage Cleaner, a program that cleans up Fp temp files and other settings. I wondered if anyone knows how in Photoshop 7 (or with a separate program) to delete the temp files Photoshop creates? My temp files are numerous since I work with so many images/photos. Judy -- Washington County PA Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

Thanks all, Glitches are gone. :) Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:36 AM Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Homepages problem...... > > HATCHER website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/faq.htm > HATCHER DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hatDNA.htm > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > I just rec'd a very quick response from the HelpDesk. > > They DO have a problem with "homepages" and are working to fix it as we > speak. > > Nel Hatcher > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

At 10:05 PM 7/22/2007, you wrote: >As a newbie to all of this technical stuff, I really can't help, but am >wondering if this might not be a compatibility problem? I too was using an >old version of WS FTP, and I got a new computer with......Vista, needless to >say, I experienced problems, and I needed to update my FTP program. Turned out to be a proxy issue. Think she is back in business again pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/

Hi All, As a newbie to all of this technical stuff, I really can't help, but am wondering if this might not be a compatibility problem? I too was using an old version of WS FTP, and I got a new computer with......Vista, needless to say, I experienced problems, and I needed to update my FTP program. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: sue Date: 7/20/2007 7:30:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 78 Hi Patricia, Thanks for the reply and the link. I have the old 95 version of WS-FTP so, my view doesn't match the tutorial but, it doesn't matter since I had no problem getting everything to connect. My problem is that, after creating my 'new' site I leave ftp. If I make and changes to the new site and save them, then go back to upload any changes, the new site name is not on the ftp profile directory..I have to go back to the old site where this new was linked and save and upload the changes in it to get everything to work. Where is the new site in ftp? Why won't it keep the new site name in the directory of ftp. It is in my local directory of course, but that is all. I have gone several times to create a 'new' profile and the same thing happens.. Anyway, thanks for the help. I will figure it out I hope. Either that, or just keep on using the old profile site. Sue

At 02:46 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote: >I have been trying to get set up with Filezilla, could someone give >instructions for a 3 years old to make it work!!! Download and install File | Site Manager Click New Site button and give it a Name | RootsWeb - Your Ste Host users.freepages.rootsweb.com Check the Normal Radio button User your account name PW your password Click Advanced button Default local directory - browse to your file on your computer Default remote directory genealogy_html or whichever community you will be using Click OK Click Save and Exit Site Manager | Click the site name you just setup Connect However freepages accounts are being moved to a new server this weekend so you may have to wait to see if it works. pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.blog.family-genealogy-online.com/

I have been trying to get set up with Filezilla, could someone give instructions for a 3 years old to make it work!!! k > Suggestion - download and install Filezilla > http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/ > It is free and will not mess up WS_FTP in any way. I have > them both installed on my computer. > Then set Filezilla up with the sites you ftp to. If you have > questions let me know. I pretty much use Filezilla now when I > am using a 3rd party ftp program. > > pat > > > ---------- > Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage > We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ >

At 08:01 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote: >I've just received a new web page and all the necessary info for setting >up the account. I have gone several times to WSFTP and filled in the >data for a 'new' site. >Everything works well as long as I stay in ftp. The remote directory >comes up and I can transfer items. >However, when I come out and go back to the page and make any changes >and try to log on to the page again in FTP I cannot find the profile name.. >I think it may be because the new page was once, a link in another >page? I can make all the changes I want, in the old page and upload >them in the old page and they show up in the new one. But, I can find no >profile name for the new one to make the changes... (I'm terrible at >trying to explain things so hope you understand) It has been so long >since I set up a new page, I had forgotten so much and am afraid I'm >leaving something out.. >Anyway, I hope the several different times I've tried setting up a new >page, did not 'take' somewhere in the cyberspace of rootsweb and wind up >with a dozen duplicate profiles... ===========snip============= Are you saying you are trying to connect to two completely separate sites in Rootsweb with two completely separate profiles? Are the websites two separate sites on your computer? Suggestion - download and install Filezilla http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/ It is free and will not mess up WS_FTP in any way. I have them both installed on my computer. Then set Filezilla up with the sites you ftp to. If you have questions let me know. I pretty much use Filezilla now when I am using a 3rd party ftp program. pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - FrontPage We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Genealogy Web Design Tips and Tutorials http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ http://www.blog.family-genealogy-online.com/