FireFox is the one I prefer as well - Thank you for letting me know re. this toolbar; I'm going there now to download it. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com>wrote: > At 08:32 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote: > >Please tell me more about this FireFox program/source which > >highlights these errors - > > I think I need it > ============= > > Firfox is a browser from Mozilla > http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.htmlI would also > download the webdeveloper toolbar that you can > install http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/web-developer-toolbar.htm > > I much prefer ff to IE and I could not work without the toolbar. > > Pat > > > ---------- > Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web > We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Egearyfamily/frontpage/> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Egearyfamily/expression-web/> > http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ > > Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook > Revised to include EW 3.0 > http://frontpage-to-expression.com/ > >

At 08:32 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote: >Please tell me more about this FireFox program/source which >highlights these errors - > I think I need it ============= Firfox is a browser from Mozilla http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.htmlI would also download the webdeveloper toolbar that you can install http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/web-developer-toolbar.htm I much prefer ff to IE and I could not work without the toolbar. Pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook Revised to include EW 3.0 http://frontpage-to-expression.com/

I need to know what browser you're using - PLEASE - I don't understand where you're seeing a 'div' or any table. Thanks to Susan, that " is now gone - I'd somehow added it in an e-address - one of those typos which I then never catch On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Robert Sullivan < robert.g.sullivan@gmail.com> wrote: > > ... find the extraneous character ... or lack of ... which is > causing > > the extraneous " at the bottom of this page? > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~anneology/walker.html<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Eanneology/walker.html> > > > > I've looked and looked ... think I may be going nuts ;-) > > and I must be "blind in one eye and can't see out of the other" > > ;-) > > You've got a " after your closing html tag. > > You've also got a closing div and an entire table after the body and > html tags... that way lies madness. > > -- > Bob Sullivan > Schenectady Digital History Archive > <http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> > Schenectady County (NY) Public Library > >

Thank you so much. Please tell me more about this FireFox program/source which highlights these errors - I think I need it On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Susan W Pieroth <pieroth@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > mailto: code for jdbs@uslink.net - Jerrian D. Barsness has a " right > after the : where it doesn't belong. Source in Firefox turns errors red. > > Susan > > anne-ology wrote: > > ... find the extraneous character ... or lack of ... which is > causing > > the extraneous " at the bottom of this page? > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~anneology/walker.html<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Eanneology/walker.html> > > > > I've looked and looked ... think I may be going nuts ;-) > > and I must be "blind in one eye and can't see out of the > other" > > ;-) > > >

At 05:25 PM 12/17/2009, anne-ology wrote: > ... find the extraneous character ... or lack of ... which is causing >the extraneous " at the bottom of this page? >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~anneology/walker.html <.P><.A href="<mailto:researchology2@gmail.com>mailto:researchology2@gmail.com">let me know your thoughts<./A><./P> <./FONT><./A> <./BODY> <./HTML>"

At 05:25 PM 12/17/2009, anne-ology wrote: > ... find the extraneous character ... or lack of ... which is causing >the extraneous " at the bottom of this page? >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~anneology/walker.html > > I've looked and looked ... think I may be going nuts ;-) > and I must be "blind in one eye and can't see out of the other" ========================= </FONT></A> </BODY> </HTML>"</div> Pat

>       ... find the extraneous character ... or lack of ... which is causing > the extraneous " at the bottom of this page? > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~anneology/walker.html > >       I've looked and looked ... think I may be going nuts ;-) >           and I must be "blind in one eye and can't see out of the other" > ;-) You've got a " after your closing html tag. You've also got a closing div and an entire table after the body and html tags... that way lies madness. -- Bob Sullivan Schenectady Digital History Archive <http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/> Schenectady County (NY) Public Library

mailto: code for jdbs@uslink.net - Jerrian D. Barsness has a " right after the : where it doesn't belong. Source in Firefox turns errors red. Susan anne-ology wrote: > ... find the extraneous character ... or lack of ... which is causing > the extraneous " at the bottom of this page? > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~anneology/walker.html > > I've looked and looked ... think I may be going nuts ;-) > and I must be "blind in one eye and can't see out of the other" > ;-) >

... find the extraneous character ... or lack of ... which is causing the extraneous " at the bottom of this page? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~anneology/walker.html I've looked and looked ... think I may be going nuts ;-) and I must be "blind in one eye and can't see out of the other" ;-)

On 12 Dec 2009 at 18:00, Patricia Geary wrote: > At 05:41 PM 12/12/2009, you wrote: > >How do you get the RootsWeb banner to appear at the > >bottom instead of the top? > > > Probably cause there is no opening <body> tag among other things. At > least I did not see it. > > pat I found out something. If you use a SSI (server side include) right after the </head> tag like this: <!--#include virtual="../00_ssi/banner.htm" --> and banner.htm has the first tag in it like: <BODY LANG="en-US" TEXT="#000000" LINK="#0000ff" VLINK="#800080" DIR="LTR" bgcolor="#FFFFCC"> RootsWeb does not detect the <body and drops the banner to the bottom. I want the banner at the top so I fixed it. I know, I know, a little bit of CSS would do me a lot of good :-) George

Thanks! On 12 Dec 2009 at 17:59, Susan W Pieroth wrote: > The coding for the body at the top is not complete. That's been the > reason in the past. Body is closed at the bottom. > > Susan > > George Waller wrote: > > How do you get the RootsWeb banner to appear at the > > bottom instead of the top? > > Thanks, > > George > > > > On 12 Dec 2009 at 14:12, DONNA COOPER wrote: > > > >> I didn't know if that was acceptable to do or not - sorry. > >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/1890Veterans/1890FlatCreek2.htm > >> > >> Donna Cooper > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 05:12 PM 12/12/2009, you wrote: >didn't know if that was acceptable to do or not - sorry. > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/1890Veterans/1890FlatCreek2.htm You need a doctype on your page and the style statements belong in between the opening and closing <head> </head> tags of your page. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/html-document-structure.html You are also missing your opening <body> tag as far as I can tell. From Barry Carlson on why a doctype is important Statistically, more than 50 percent of browsers in use today are Internet Explorer 7 and earlier versions. " Well that doesn't bother me because I use Chrome 3, Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 or Safari 4 etc..." Wrong! It should bother you, because when designing web pages it is easy to forget that just because you're using a W3C standards compliant browser, it doesn't follow that the IE stable of browsers may not be rendering the same way. How does that happen? You forget to add a Doctype (Document Type Declaration [DTD]) to your page, and even though your page looks fine, things will probably look quite different in IE7, IE6, IE5.5 and IE5.01. That's because without a Doctype the IE stable of browsers render in what is known as Quirks Mode. This can have a major effect on layout, and it's all to do with the IE interpretation of the "box model" and another quirky feature known as "hasLayout". Interested? Then go to :- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/box-model/ie-width.html - click on the !Doctype false button and all will be revealed. The page(s) are designed to render so that those using W3C compliant browsers will see what the Internet Explorer users are seeing. Pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook Revised to include EW 3.0 http://frontpage-to-expression.com/

At 05:41 PM 12/12/2009, you wrote: >How do you get the RootsWeb banner to appear at the >bottom instead of the top? Probably cause there is no opening <body> tag among other things. At least I did not see it. pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook Revised to include EW 3.0 http://frontpage-to-expression.com/

The coding for the body at the top is not complete. That's been the reason in the past. Body is closed at the bottom. Susan George Waller wrote: > How do you get the RootsWeb banner to appear at the > bottom instead of the top? > Thanks, > George > > On 12 Dec 2009 at 14:12, DONNA COOPER wrote: > >> I didn't know if that was acceptable to do or not - sorry. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/1890Veterans/1890FlatCreek2.htm >> >> Donna Cooper

How do you get the RootsWeb banner to appear at the bottom instead of the top? Thanks, George On 12 Dec 2009 at 14:12, DONNA COOPER wrote: > I didn't know if that was acceptable to do or not - sorry. > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/1890Veterans/1890FlatCreek2.htm > > Donna Cooper > > > > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> wrote: > > > From: Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> > > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Validate - CSS > > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 4:05 PM > > At 05:02 PM 12/12/2009, you wrote: > > >Thanks for your help, Pat. > > > > > >The problem that I have here is that I created a table > > from a Word > > >document that was in a file that was sent to me to use > > on the web. > > >It seemed easier than recreating the entire page. A > > long story short > > >- I found most of Microsoft's table boo-boos and > > repaired the entire > > >page and have the 500 and some table errors now down to > > one error. > > > > > >I think that one is from the style sheet that Roots > > puts on the web > > >pages that they host as part of the banner. Because - I > > can't find > > >it anywhere in my file. It is for an unrecognized link > > element or > > >xml-stylesheet PI. > > > > > >As to what xml-stylesheet might define, I have no > > clue. > > > > > >Help appreciated!!! > > ============= > > > > How about sending the url of th epage you need help with > > which makes > > it much easier to help you. > > > > pat > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 05:02 PM 12/12/2009, you wrote: >Thanks for your help, Pat. > >The problem that I have here is that I created a table from a Word >document that was in a file that was sent to me to use on the web. >It seemed easier than recreating the entire page. A long story short >- I found most of Microsoft's table boo-boos and repaired the entire >page and have the 500 and some table errors now down to one error. > >I think that one is from the style sheet that Roots puts on the web >pages that they host as part of the banner. Because - I can't find >it anywhere in my file. It is for an unrecognized link element or >xml-stylesheet PI. > >As to what xml-stylesheet might define, I have no clue. > >Help appreciated!!! ============= How about sending the url of th epage you need help with which makes it much easier to help you. pat

I think that using a <br> tag after the final </div> that the bottom banner will be pushed below the bottom table. Maybe Pat will know for sure if that is correct. Donna --- On Sat, 12/12/09, George Waller <George@waller.org> wrote: > From: George Waller <George@waller.org> > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] RootsWeb banner at bottom > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 4:41 PM > How do you get the RootsWeb banner to > appear at the > bottom instead of the top? > Thanks, > George > > On 12 Dec 2009 at 14:12, DONNA COOPER wrote: > > > I didn't know if that was acceptable to do or not - > sorry. > > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/1890Veterans/1890FlatCreek2.htm > > > > Donna Cooper > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> > wrote: > > > > > From: Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> > > > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Validate - CSS > > > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 4:05 PM > > > At 05:02 PM 12/12/2009, you wrote: > > > >Thanks for your help, Pat. > > > > > > > >The problem that I have here is that I > created a table > > > from a Word > > > >document that was in a file that was sent to > me to use > > > on the web. > > > >It seemed easier than recreating the entire > page. A > > > long story short > > > >- I found most of Microsoft's table boo-boos > and > > > repaired the entire > > > >page and have the 500 and some table errors > now down to > > > one error. > > > > > > > >I think that one is from the style sheet that > Roots > > > puts on the web > > > >pages that they host as part of the banner. > Because - I > > > can't find > > > >it anywhere in my file. It is for an > unrecognized link > > > element or > > > >xml-stylesheet PI. > > > > > > > >As to what xml-stylesheet might define, I > have no > > > clue. > > > > > > > >Help appreciated!!! > > > ============= > > > > > > How about sending the url of th epage you need > help with > > > which makes > > > it much easier to help you. > > > > > > pat > > >  > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > >  > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

At 02:24 PM 12/12/2009, DONNA COOPER wrote: >Help, Please! > >I am trying to validate a CSS page - yuck! > >The message is somewhat similar to this for 535 errors for one page >with a table - "Value Error : border-width only 0 can be a length. >You must put a unit after your number : 1" > >My question is what do they mean by this saying width can only be a >length? Where I went to school length and width were not the same >thing. *smile* > >And - besides all this - the line number it gives doesn't show >anything close to what the message reads. I mean that they have 4000 >or more lines and the document has a little over 2000 or so. > >I feel a little more than stupid about this but then I am new to CSS >and probably don't even begin to understand the language. I could >use some help from someone out there who has some CSS knowledge to >share with me. =========== any number other than 0 requires a unit of measurement to validate Example 1px or 1em Hard to say without seeing the page and the css file. Remember any time you use a number for measurement it requires the unit also - px or em or for border thin or thick. pat

I didn't know if that was acceptable to do or not - sorry. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/1890Veterans/1890FlatCreek2.htm Donna Cooper --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> wrote: > From: Pat Geary <pat@family-genealogy-online.com> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Validate - CSS > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 4:05 PM > At 05:02 PM 12/12/2009, you wrote: > >Thanks for your help, Pat. > > > >The problem that I have here is that I created a table > from a Word > >document that was in a file that was sent to me to use > on the web. > >It seemed easier than recreating the entire page. A > long story short > >- I found most of Microsoft's table boo-boos and > repaired the entire > >page and have the 500 and some table errors now down to > one error. > > > >I think that one is from the style sheet that Roots > puts on the web > >pages that they host as part of the banner. Because - I > can't find > >it anywhere in my file. It is for an unrecognized link > element or > >xml-stylesheet PI. > > > >As to what xml-stylesheet might define, I have no > clue. > > > >Help appreciated!!! > ============= > > How about sending the url of th epage you need help with > which makes > it much easier to help you. > > pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for your help, Pat. The problem that I have here is that I created a table from a Word document that was in a file that was sent to me to use on the web. It seemed easier than recreating the entire page. A long story short - I found most of Microsoft's table boo-boos and repaired the entire page and have the 500 and some table errors now down to one error. I think that one is from the style sheet that Roots puts on the web pages that they host as part of the banner. Because - I can't find it anywhere in my file. It is for an unrecognized link element or xml-stylesheet PI. As to what xml-stylesheet might define, I have no clue. Help appreciated!!! Thanks, Donna --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Patricia Geary <patgeary@comcast.net> wrote: > From: Patricia Geary <patgeary@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Validate - CSS > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 1:37 PM > At 02:24 PM 12/12/2009, DONNA COOPER > wrote: > >Help, Please! > > > >I am trying to validate a CSS page - yuck! > > > >The message is somewhat similar to this for 535 errors > for one page > >with a table - "Value Error : border-width  only 0 > can be a length. > >You must put a unit after your number :  1" > > > >My question is what do they mean by this saying width > can only be a > >length? Where I went to school length and width were > not the same > >thing. *smile* > > > >And - besides all this - the line number it gives > doesn't show > >anything close to what the message reads. I mean that > they have 4000 > >or more lines and the document has a little over 2000 > or so. > > > >I feel a little more than stupid about this but then I > am new to CSS > >and probably don't even begin to understand the > language. I could > >use some help from someone out there who has some CSS > knowledge to > >share with me. > =========== > > any number other than 0 requires a unit of measurement to > validate > > Example 1px or 1em > > Hard to say without seeing the page and the css file. > > Remember any time you use a number for measurement it > requires the > unit also - px or em or for border thin or thick. > > pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >