I don't use shared facts for many of the same reasons others stated. I tried it when it first came out, but saw the problems with some reports and accidentally deleted an entire shared fact twice because I was trying to remove it from one of the shared people. But entering items separately for each person really isn't THAT difficult using buttons and shortcut keys rather than re-typing the notes or sources. - Bruce has a "Memorize" button on the source screen. Once you've entered a source for someone, you can memorize the source and then you can use his "Paste" button to put that source on other people over and over until you "Memorize" another one. And this "copy" saves it in the RM source clipboard and doesn't keep you from copying other things. It's awesome to use if you're putting the same source on multiple people - such as a book, legal document, or in this case census. - Windows clipboard shortcuts work fine within RM. When you type the notes, highlight them and do Ctrl+C to copy what you typed. Then create a new fact on another person, open the Notes, and Ctrl+V to paste it in. What you copied remains on the clipboard to be pasted in until you copy something else. So, when I'm entering a census for a large family: - I add my census fact to the head of household. - Then I enter the notes, highlight and Ctrl+C to copy it before saving. - Next I add the source and I "memorize" that before saving. - Then I go to each other individual, add the fact, open Notes, Ctr+V and save, open Sources, "Paste" button and save. It's all done without re-typing any notes or sources - just having to enter a new fact and paste in the details for each additional person. Cheri Zuber http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~zuber/ -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:57 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Shared Facts I've been using shared facts for just about everything from census to baptism sponsors. I used them because it saves me so much time entering records over for each person. Especially with large family's and census data! I have to say I love this feature, but I didn't realize that they didn't show up in the research report. :-( I hope that will be fixed soon! I've also been hoping for some time that a conversion tool will be made that can convert the shared facts to individual facts when you export a gedcom. Kim On 11/05/2012 02:38 PM, Lisa Gorrell wrote: > Connie, > > I, too, wished there was some sort of "clipboard" in RM. I really miss > that in Legacy. I copy the source but must make a new event for each > person I want to attach that source. It is alot of work. But I also > switched to RM for the Research Notes report. > > Lisa Gorrell > > =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I converted from The Master Genealogist (TMG) to RootsMagic a few years ago (and have had no regrets!). However, TMG does shared facts better. In TMG, if I created a shared fact--say a godfather--for a christening event, then looked at the TMG equivalent of the "Edit Person" screen for the godfather, it would list: the fact (event) as "witness" and in the detail column it would say "Godfather, [date], christening, [name of infant] [location]. This gave me all the info I need at a glance about the nature of the witness fact, and the fact that was witnessed, and it is clear to anybody else looking at it that this was not the christening of the godfather, but that he was the witness of a christening of an infant. In RM, I get an icon (the meaning of which is not apparent), "chr" (in italics), the date of the christening, the name of the infant, and the location. The RM presentation does not really tell me what happened in the witness's life; instead it tells me what happened in somebody else's life. Even though RM says "Chr" under the Facts column, the witness was not christened; he acted as a godfather). The only way I can see what really happened in the godfather's life is to click on the Share button (as though I were going to edit the fact) and look there to see what his role was. Shared facts have great potential, but it is potential not yet realized in RM. Ted Meikle

On 05/11/12 23:12, genealzube wrote: > I don't use shared facts for many of the same reasons others stated. I > tried it when it first came out, but saw the problems with some reports and > accidentally deleted an entire shared fact twice because I was trying to > remove it from one of the shared people. > > But entering items separately for each person really isn't THAT difficult > using buttons and shortcut keys rather than re-typing the notes or sources. > But shared facts have advantages over individual facts - they're shared. That's important - you can instantly see that a fact refers to someone else; that it links people together. If, several years later, you come across your census fact, a shared fact shouts that someone else was also there. An individual fact says nothing. Also, to take an example, I have a role of 'informant' on the death fact. With that, I don't need to create a new fact 'informant' on the informant's record, which is also incompatible with other GEDCOMs. (I had previously done just that). I would like a couple of upgrades to RM: Optionally output GEDCOMs with shared facts converted to individual facts, and to allow you to transfer immediately to the person sharing any fact. That should overcome all objections to using shared facts. The legacy idea of copying entire facts seems a good idea to me, too. Get on with it Bruce! :0) -- Regards Dave