It would be a very welcome enhancement to have a feature such as this. Probably also a very difficult one to realise in a way that pleases all. Place Details would also benefit from a similar treatment as street names and addresses, building, institution and cemetery names change over time. Places and Place Details would need a date range. Should the autosearch on entering a value in a Place or Place Detail field restrict results to those fitting within the event date or offer all possible matches along with their date ranges? What if the event has a date range that spans two or more place values? - which one or all partial matches should be offered. What geocode is applicable when an older place is now part of a larger place? - should the part inherit the geocode of the whole? How to handle places that might have been known by more than one name at the same time, e.g., the aboriginal name and the colonial name, or the French and the English names? - is language another property of a place that needs to be stored and reported? Reports: should reports automatically output the current place/detail along with the historical place/detail for each event? - as part of a sentence in the narrative, or "x now y" in lists, FGS and Indiv Summary? - or maybe as a footnote/endnote? Would probably require an extension to the Sentence Template Language for Place and PlaceDetail, e.g. ":Historical", ":Now", ":Language(English|French|...)". I can think of many other complications that would need to be addressed in the necessary redesign of the database and revision of the program. It seems to me that a very extensive and pervasive change would be needed. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Robert Starkey Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Differing names for the same place Thanks for the tip, Paul, but you appear to have completely missed the point. I use the approach you suggest but do not find it an effective method of dealing with the issue, although it may be acceptable if there are few Place Names and/or the user has an exceptional memory - neither of which applies in my case! I use a single Place Name and I have included in the Place Notes (as you suggest) the history of the Place Name with the various different names included but that does not produce, in reports, etc., events with the Place Name as it was at the time of the event so does not necessarily correspond with, for example, addresses in censuses of the time. An alternative would be to create separate, historically accurate Place Names (as has been already suggested and as I have tried in the past) but this could be confusing and would hinder searches by Place Name; for example, the Who Was There List. This might be less of a problem if one created separate Place Names using the historically correct names (annotated "(now....)" as has also been suggested) but then entered the modern-day name as the Abbreviated Place Name (in the absence of an Alternate Place Name) and report settings could provide the option of using the 'correct' Place Name the first time then subsequently use the Abbreviated Place Name. There's probably no one-size-fits-all solution but it is very interesting to learn how others have effectively handled the matter. Rob. -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Studly Sent: 10 June 2012 01:03 To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Differing names for the same place There is provision for Places notes Use them Paul A. Studly, Esq. paulstudly@studly.net Cleveland/Chesterland, Ohio 440-829-9207 Verizon Cell IRS Circular 230 - Any tax advice contained in the body of this correspondence was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Starkey Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:25 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Differing names for the same place Like Stan, I, too, would prefer to use historically accurate names associated with each event and am disappointed to have to compromise in this respect. Leamington, Leamington Priors, Leamington Spa and Royal Leamington Spa are all valid names for the same place at different times in history. Rob. Stan Armstrong wrote: >I guess what I am asking is whether RM might be given an alternate >place >facility comparable to its alternate name facility. RM would then be >able to link many alternate historical place names to the same modern >place name. >I like to have historically accurate names associated with each event >where possible. =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message