Don't overwhelm him with the full ancestry listings. Give him an ancestor chart with some explanation that there is a lot more. Too much will make him get lost in the forest and miss the trees. What his Grandparents and Great Grandparents did will interest him greatly and get him the A in Social Studies he wants. If a close ancestor was a lawman or invented something special would be more interesting at his age than someone way back there. -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!
I would drag and drop the ancestor of interest and his descendants to a new, empty database. Then do an ancestor report, (maybe with children if there are interesting uncles somewhere) of the grandchild you are speaking of from that temporary database. That way it will only show the one line and the linkage between the Mayflower and the child, not all of the hundreds of other ancestor lines Alfred =========== Jon Czarowitz wrote: > Don't overwhelm him with the full ancestry listings. Give him an ancestor > chart with some explanation that there is a lot more. Too much will make > him get lost in the forest and miss the trees. > What his Grandparents and Great Grandparents did will interest him greatly > and get him the A in Social Studies he wants. > If a close ancestor was a lawman or invented something special would be > more interesting at his age than someone way back there. > > >
Jon, I never thought about it quite that way before, but you make a lot of sense. Sort of like learning to walk before he learns to run, so to speak. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jon Czarowitz Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:30 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts Don't overwhelm him with the full ancestry listings. Give him an ancestor chart with some explanation that there is a lot more. Too much will make him get lost in the forest and miss the trees. What his Grandparents and Great Grandparents did will interest him greatly and get him the A in Social Studies he wants. If a close ancestor was a lawman or invented something special would be more interesting at his age than someone way back there. -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!
HI, Jon is right. I taught social studies for years and helped to develop for our school district small units on family history for younger children (grade 4 and 5) and for high school..grade 11. The younger kids loved to hear stories about grandparents or even ggrandparents or if someone was a bad guy (black sheep) or a hero of some sort. But just to go over various generations to a kid is very dull. If the school actually teaches social studies (No Child Left Behind dropped it out of most curriculums unless the teacher can figure out how to work it in) then when they study the Pilgrims, you can bring up the family connection, or the Civil War, you can bring up who fought and where. Just remember that to a younger child, ten years ago is ancient history and don't overdo. One thing we did for the younger children was have a family connection type unit. Student brought in a picture of grandma or grandpa, hopefully the picture was with the child and a recipe that maybe grandma made and the family loved (I say maybe because my own grandother was a lousy cook and we hoped she wouldn't make us treats), or grandpa working on a car, something that they can connect to. We made a bulletin board out of this material and added things like the shape of the state (or country of Mexico) and the child's name. This can work at home as a little project for a scrapebook or just a poster that the chld can work on and use. This worked well in several schools before teachers were told not to do it anymore as there were too many children who had been adopted and didn't know parents (we thought they would use adoptive parents but some asked too many questions about birth parents), some had no idea who dad was or mom was, it turned out there were over 600 kids in our district who were homeless, many living in cars and they had no pictures or stories to tell about grandparents and so on. It was heartbreaking when all this came out. But to your point. A small pedigree chart is good. It will also help your grandchild with that abstract concept of drawing lines to link generations. And it helps them to connection in a personal and good way with their own history. E.A.Sloan On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:54 PM, David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net>wrote: > Jon, > > I never thought about it quite that way before, but you make a lot of > sense. > Sort of like learning to walk before he learns to run, so to speak. > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jon Czarowitz > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:30 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts > > Don't overwhelm him with the full ancestry listings. Give him an ancestor > chart with some explanation that there is a lot more. Too much will make > him > get lost in the forest and miss the trees. > What his Grandparents and Great Grandparents did will interest him greatly > and get him the A in Social Studies he wants. > If a close ancestor was a lawman or invented something special would be > more > interesting at his age than someone way back there. > > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com > CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
E. A., As the one who started this string (albeit naming the wrong chart), this is going in kind of an unexpected direction but I think I agree with what you are saying. I do still want to know how to print a large PEDIGREE chart just to know how to do it, but what you say about overwhelming a 9 year old with too much information makes sense. Maybe starting with something on a smaller scale would be better, and then expand the horizons if he continues to have the interest he does today. The little guy seems genuinely interested now though, and has for some time and I want to encourage his curiosity so long as he wants to learn. As for the large pedigree chart, I still want to know how to print one or something similar so I guess I will have to try to figure it out myself with a bit of experimentation. I was hoping to share someone's experience who has been there recently, but nothing on printing large pedigree charts so far. . . .except for the one my wife is still doing by hand on a blank 15-generation pedigree chart that we purchased. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of E.A. Sloan Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:07 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts HI, Jon is right. I taught social studies for years and helped to develop for our school district small units on family history for younger children (grade 4 and 5) and for high school..grade 11. The younger kids loved to hear stories about grandparents or even ggrandparents or if someone was a bad guy (black sheep) or a hero of some sort. But just to go over various generations to a kid is very dull. If the school actually teaches social studies (No Child Left Behind dropped it out of most curriculums unless the teacher can figure out how to work it in) then when they study the Pilgrims, you can bring up the family connection, or the Civil War, you can bring up who fought and where. Just remember that to a younger child, ten years ago is ancient history and don't overdo. One thing we did for the younger children was have a family connection type unit. Student brought in a picture of grandma or grandpa, hopefully the picture was with the child and a recipe that maybe grandma made and the family loved (I say maybe because my own grandother was a lousy cook and we hoped she wouldn't make us treats), or grandpa working on a car, something that they can connect to. We made a bulletin board out of this material and added things like the shape of the state (or country of Mexico) and the child's name. This can work at home as a little project for a scrapebook or just a poster that the chld can work on and use. This worked well in several schools before teachers were told not to do it anymore as there were too many children who had been adopted and didn't know parents (we thought they would use adoptive parents but some asked too many questions about birth parents), some had no idea who dad was or mom was, it turned out there were over 600 kids in our district who were homeless, many living in cars and they had no pictures or stories to tell about grandparents and so on. It was heartbreaking when all this came out. But to your point. A small pedigree chart is good. It will also help your grandchild with that abstract concept of drawing lines to link generations. And it helps them to connection in a personal and good way with their own history. E.A.Sloan On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:54 PM, David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net>wrote: > Jon, > > I never thought about it quite that way before, but you make a lot of > sense. > Sort of like learning to walk before he learns to run, so to speak. > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jon > Czarowitz > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:30 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts > > Don't overwhelm him with the full ancestry listings. Give him an > ancestor chart with some explanation that there is a lot more. Too > much will make him get lost in the forest and miss the trees. > What his Grandparents and Great Grandparents did will interest him > greatly and get him the A in Social Studies he wants. > If a close ancestor was a lawman or invented something special would > be more interesting at his age than someone way back there. > > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - > CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > <snip>