Thank you for saying that, Arild. I have refrained from adding anything to this discussion because it has been discussed off and on in the past with no success. About 3 years ago I gave up on trying to get this simple change made. Although I don't have many people who have the same birth, death, and burial date, I do have many for whom I only have the year or the month and year of death. When I know their place of burial, I add the Burial fact for these people, but RM ALWAYS puts the Burial fact before the Death fact. This is SO frustrating. As other users have said, other programs do this automatically. I love RM. I've been using it for years, since Family Origins 6 or 8, and I'm not going to change now. BUT every time I see this transposition of the normal order of facts, it makes me angry to have to use Sort dates. If people like using Sort dates, then so be it. They can use them. Many of us don't like being forced to use them when it would be so simple for the program to do this automatically. I'm a retired software tech writer and I only know a little about programming. But it seems to me that it should be simple enough to write code that says something like: IF death and burial date equal > THEN death fact goes first IF birth, death, and burial date equal > THEN birth fact goes first and death fact goes next I know this isn't the correct way to write the code, but I suspect it's close and could be accomplished in a few minutes. Then everyone should be happy--even those who say they ALWAYS use Sort dates and love taking the time to do it. Those who say they rarely need this don't speak for the rest of us--including those who might be out of town, busy with visitors at their house, or just reluctant to add their voice to the discussion. Laurie Nelson P.S. This is one of the few times Bruce hasn't listened to a request for a minor change. Those who complain about him should think about how many software developers would be answering users on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, as Bruce did. I really appreciate the way he usually makes changes requested by users. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Arild Kompelien" <akom@broadpark.no> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 3:50 PM To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [RMagic] RootsMagic 6 - sorting of birth, death and burial events when all occur in the same year > So far sort order has worked for me, but I don't see why I should > disagree with Tom. Getting these events in logical order I see as an > improvement to RM. > > Arild Kompelien

Well said Laurie about how simple the logic might be. Remember though that the test must be applied to ALL of the facts to find Birth, Death, Burial first. As a former software designer and programmer, I wonder what the timing impact might be... I've adjusted to using the sort date because I would rather have the program run a little faster. Jinny Angelis > From: lane-nelson@q.com > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:25:07 -0700 > Subject: Re: [RMagic] RootsMagic 6 - sorting of birth, death and burial events when all occur in the same year > > Thank you for saying that, Arild. I have refrained from adding anything to > this discussion because it has been discussed off and on in the past with no > success. About 3 years ago I gave up on trying to get this simple change > made. Although I don't have many people who have the same birth, death, and > burial date, I do have many for whom I only have the year or the month and > year of death. When I know their place of burial, I add the Burial fact for > these people, but RM ALWAYS puts the Burial fact before the Death fact. This > is SO frustrating. As other users have said, other programs do this > automatically. > > I love RM. I've been using it for years, since Family Origins 6 or 8, and > I'm not going to change now. BUT every time I see this transposition of the > normal order of facts, it makes me angry to have to use Sort dates. If > people like using Sort dates, then so be it. They can use them. Many of us > don't like being forced to use them when it would be so simple for the > program to do this automatically. > > I'm a retired software tech writer and I only know a little about > programming. But it seems to me that it should be simple enough to write > code that says something like: > > IF death and burial date equal > THEN death fact goes first > IF birth, death, and burial date equal > THEN birth fact goes first and > death fact goes next > > I know this isn't the correct way to write the code, but I suspect it's > close and could be accomplished in a few minutes. Then everyone should be > happy--even those who say they ALWAYS use Sort dates and love taking the > time to do it. Those who say they rarely need this don't speak for the rest > of us--including those who might be out of town, busy with visitors at their > house, or just reluctant to add their voice to the discussion. > > Laurie Nelson > > P.S. This is one of the few times Bruce hasn't listened to a request for a > minor change. Those who complain about him should think about how many > software developers would be answering users on Christmas Eve and Christmas > Day, as Bruce did. I really appreciate the way he usually makes changes > requested by users. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Arild Kompelien" <akom@broadpark.no> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 3:50 PM > To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [RMagic] RootsMagic 6 - sorting of birth, death and burial > events when all occur in the same year > > > So far sort order has worked for me, but I don't see why I should > > disagree with Tom. Getting these events in logical order I see as an > > improvement to RM. > > > > Arild Kompelien > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message