Corruption is in the eye of the beholder... The Database Tools and Export will catch certain kinds of corruption that affect the structure of the database but not errors in the data that are the result of user decisions and actions. The Problem Search tool helps to find many of the latter but it does not report a person linked to himself as parent (it may report it as "Father 0 years old when person was born"). And it is very easy to link a person to himself as a Parent - RootsMagic does not challenge the validity of this action (I think it should). Do you run Problem Search globally? Do you have Problem Alerts enabled in Tools > File Options? Tom On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Pat McGrath <[email protected]> wrote: > Very, very frequently!!!! I have never had it say anything except OK ….. > > > > Any idea if the ability to create or not create a gedcom if the database > is corrupt is correct???? Anyone??? > > > > IS there ANY way to determine (before it’s way too late) to discover a > corrupt database? > > Pat > > > > *From:* Tom Holden [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Saturday, February 21, 2015 3:29 PM > *To:* Jon Czarowitz; [email protected] > *Cc:* Pat McGrath > *Subject:* Re: [RMagic] 5 of SAME person/couple showing !!!!! > > > > Restoring a database from a backup has no effect on the Record Numbers and > there is no option as Jon suggests in his #1, #3 to maintain the same > numbers when creating or restoring a database. > > > > The only time you have the option to "Preserve record numbers" is when you > import a GEDCOM into a new, empty database. > > > > One can only guess at what happened but you obviously had two or more > Nelsons because you merged #9218 and, presumably, #10214 with the latter > set as Primary. I would suggest that the scramble had nothing to do with > the addition of the Alt Name fact to Emma and everything to do with the > merging. Perhaps the second Nelson had the unwanted linkages or perhaps > your database was already corrupted in some way. Do you regularly run the > Database Tools on it, especially Check Database Integrity? > > > > Tom > > > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Jon Czarowitz via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > 1 Everytime you create or restorer a database it will change numbers unless > you ask it to maintain the same numbers. > 2 Stop what you are doing and go to an older backup and restore. View it to > see how bad it looks. IF bad too delete it and that backup. > 3 Forget numbers for now. Get you a good working database. You can ask it > to keep the numbers when restoring. Use a different name for your database > each timed you do these restores. > You will lose some work, but from what I am seeing (blind) you have one > person as his own Father, Grandfather and possibly 3 generations more.IN > SHORT, A MESS. > 4 Once you get a working database you feel is good, then back this up with > its new name. Getting rid of the backups you know are bad will leave you > some possible good ones. > 5 Work only in the new good database, Not sure why you are restoring each > session. RM will open the last database you were working on if you indicate > that is what you want under Tools/File. > 6 If you have been restoring on top of an older database than that was your > problem. > These are best suggestions I have. Hows far back you need to go is in > question, but take your time. Time spent now will save problems later. > > 7 If you want to restore again to check if current one is better, USE A > NEW NAME. Also each database and backup is dated by RM for you. Database at > the bottom of screen; Backups in the name. > > 8 You can open the 2nd database side by side with current one, either by > having 2 databases side by side or using RM 7's new "database compare"' > > 9 GOOD LUCK! We all have done something like that at one time or another. > Jon > > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Pat McGrath via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > HELP! I think I've gone back and restored to a GOOD database, but no > idea > > what I did the break my original one!!!! > > > > > > > > All was well (as far as I know) when I backed up late last night. Always > > start by doing a 'restore' in the morning . then started adding info and > > making corrections to Nelson and Emma. Emma has a possible different > name > > so added an 'alt name' .. Nelson appeared to be a dup so merged him with > > the > > other Nelson w/no wife. In my original database Nelson was #9218 .. > > > > > > > > Suddenly switching to a pedigree view I noticed I have 5 GENERATIONS of > > Nelson & Emma ---- each being the parents of Nelson and not just NELSON > > himself . hope you can picture that pedigree! Suddenly Nelson is now > > #10214. > > > > > > > > Created a gedcom and imported it to a new database .. Still 5 GENERATIONS > > of > > them . Nelson now #10139. Had no error messages doing the gedcom and no > > problem (it appeared) in importing that gedcom .. Would assume it was not > > corrupt based on that! > > > > > > > > Restored last night's backup again ... ONLY one NELSON & EMMA and Nelson > is > > #9218 ...... > > > > > > > > Cautiously think I'm ok except for losing 2 hours of entering from this > > morning, but can anyone tell me WHAT HAPPENED and/or what I DID ????? > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > -- > *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > Retired International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com > CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >