I hate to be a further 'pain' since it was my question to begin with ..... BUT.... could someone who has made this work send out all the exact steps I need to find out what individuals are still missing parents in my grandfathers line (back 10 generations) ..... THANKS !!!!!! TECH SUPPORT: Can I request a report be created and added to the report selections that will automatically create this without all the hassle! Thanks to both groups of folks!!!!! Appreciate all the help trying to get this to work. I don't feel quite so 'dumb' since all of you have way more experience than I do with RM !!!!! Pat Mc -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Maxwell via Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:45 PM To: Jerry Bryan; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report Jerry, you don't need a custom report. Once you have created the group, quit. Then open the regular "individual summary". Where it says "Current person", change that to [your named group]. Don't make any other changes unless you want more or less detail from the "Items to print for each person". If you just want the names of "your named group" then remove all the check marks". Then "generate report". Sue On May 20, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Jerry Bryan via <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> I first created a group. Inspected the group and it "looked" like it >> was right. To print it, I had to create a custom report, selecting >> that group. Once I had a printed list, I could then verify that it was correct. > >> Once that was done, I went to > >> *Reports->Lists->Individual List->People t >> include->(name of your group)* > >> (your second option). > >> With this report, I got about 10 times the number of names that I got >> in the printed list from the custom report. > > This really sounds quite impossible (or else there is a nasty bug in RM that I can't recreate). > > Could I prevail on you to try a simple experiment? It shouldn't take but a couple of minutes of your time. Either recreate your group just like you did the first time around. Or better yet, maybe it still exists and you can just use it as it is without having to recreate it. > > Having recreated the group (or having found that it still exists), go into People View and select your group. If you are not familiar with People View, it's just one of the Views like Pedigree View, Family View, etc. and there will be a tab for it across the top of the View area. Once in People View, select your group. There is a big button at the top of People View that defaults to Show Everyone. Click on that button and there will be a drop down box listing all your groups. Select the group you made with your end of line ancestors. Your group will now be displayed in People View. This is a much easier and probably more accurate way to inspect a group than is creating a custom report. > > Just by scrolling up and down the members of the group in People View, it should be easy to see if your group contains just your end of line ancestors in your database (the short list) or all end of line people in your database (the long list). Let us know what you see. > > Thanks, > Jerry > > P.S. (and not to be belabor the obvious), when you get the drop down list of groups in People View, be sure that there are not two different groups with very similar names, where one of the groups might be the long list by accident and the other group might be the short list. > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, I will email you directly and if you want to talk via phone we can do that too. Sue > On May 20, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Pat McGrath <patnbrian@charter.net> wrote: > > I hate to be a further 'pain' since it was my question to begin with ..... > BUT.... could someone who has made this work send out all the exact steps I > need to find out what individuals are still missing parents in my > grandfathers line (back 10 generations) ..... THANKS !!!!!! > > TECH SUPPORT: Can I request a report be created and added to the report > selections that will automatically create this without all the hassle! > > Thanks to both groups of folks!!!!! Appreciate all the help trying to get > this to work. I don't feel quite so 'dumb' since all of you have way more > experience than I do with RM !!!!! > > Pat Mc > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Maxwell via > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:45 PM > To: Jerry Bryan; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report > > Jerry, you don't need a custom report. Once you have created the group, > quit. > > Then open the regular "individual summary". > > Where it says "Current person", change that to [your named group]. > > Don't make any other changes unless you want more or less detail from the > "Items to print for each person". If you just want the names of "your named > group" then remove all the check marks". > > Then "generate report". > > > Sue > > > > On May 20, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Jerry Bryan via > <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >>> I first created a group. Inspected the group and it "looked" like it >>> was right. To print it, I had to create a custom report, selecting >>> that group. Once I had a printed list, I could then verify that it was > correct. >> >>> Once that was done, I went to >> >>> *Reports->Lists->Individual List->People t >>> include->(name of your group)* >> >>> (your second option). >> >>> With this report, I got about 10 times the number of names that I got >>> in the printed list from the custom report. >> >> This really sounds quite impossible (or else there is a nasty bug in RM > that I can't recreate). >> >> Could I prevail on you to try a simple experiment? It shouldn't take but a > couple of minutes of your time. Either recreate your group just like you did > the first time around. Or better yet, maybe it still exists and you can just > use it as it is without having to recreate it. >> >> Having recreated the group (or having found that it still exists), go into > People View and select your group. If you are not familiar with People View, > it's just one of the Views like Pedigree View, Family View, etc. and there > will be a tab for it across the top of the View area. Once in People View, > select your group. There is a big button at the top of People View that > defaults to Show Everyone. Click on that button and there will be a drop > down box listing all your groups. Select the group you made with your end of > line ancestors. Your group will now be displayed in People View. This is a > much easier and probably more accurate way to inspect a group than is > creating a custom report. >> >> Just by scrolling up and down the members of the group in People View, it > should be easy to see if your group contains just your end of line ancestors > in your database (the short list) or all end of line people in your database > (the long list). Let us know what you see. >> >> Thanks, >> Jerry >> >> P.S. (and not to be belabor the obvious), when you get the drop down list > of groups in People View, be sure that there are not two different groups > with very similar names, where one of the groups might be the long list by > accident and the other group might be the short list. >> >> >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 5/20/2016 14:55, Pat McGrath wrote: > I hate to be a further 'pain' since it was my question to begin with ..... > BUT.... could someone who has made this work send out all the exact steps I > need to find out what individuals are still missing parents in my > grandfathers line (back 10 generations) ..... THANKS !!!!!! > 1. Right click any person in your database and select *QuickGroups* 2. Click *Manage Groups* at the left bottom of the QuickGroups screen (steps #1 and #2 are just a quick way to get into Groups) 3. Click *New *at the top left of the Named Groups screen. You will be in the mark/unmark dialog. The screen is called Select People. 4. Navigate to your grandfather. The easiest way is to type his name *Lastname, Firstname Middlename*. It really sort of sucks that it does no good to have started out with him highlighted before you get into the Select People dialog, but RM is not user very friendly about entering into the Select People screen. 5. *Mark group -> Ancestors of highlighted person* 6. Pick your generations of ancestors value, and keep the default of direct ancestors only. Click *Ok*. 7. *Unmark Group -> Clear data by data fields* (this is where the screen gets complicated) 8. *Select field -> Number of sets of parents -> not equal to -> 0*. The best way to get to the *Number of sets of parents* option is to type N and then scroll down to the correct option. Click *Ok*. You will get a message that says *Unmarked nnnnn people*, where nnnnn will probably be a pretty big number. It is unmarking everybody in your database who have parents, not just your ancestors who have parents. So it is unmarking a bunch of people who were already unmarked. That'a another confusing aspect of this part of the user interface, but it cannot be helped until and unless the RootsMagician decides to change it. I think the count should only show those people who were previously marked who became unmarked, but that's just me. 9. Click *Ok *again to terminate the People selection process. 10. Enter a name for the Group and click *Ok*. 11. Click *Close*. 12. Click *Ok *to exit QuickGroups. Here ends the creation of the group and the beginning of the creation of the report. The 12 steps above don't have to be run again unless you change the members of the group. The 4 steps below can then be run as many times as you wish against the group. 1. *Reports -> Lists -> Individual List -> Generate report*. This of course doesn't generate the report. Rather, it takes you to another screen with more options. 2. The *Selected People* radio button will already be highlighted. DO NOT CHANGE THIS. DO NOT CLICK NO PARENTS OR MULTIPLE PARENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IN OTHER WORDS, DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITH ANY OF THE RADIO BUTTONS. SOMETIMES THE HARDEST THING TO DO IS NOTHING 3. Where it says *People to include *and there is a large button (not a radio button) that says *Everyone*. Click on *Everyone *and a list of all your groups will appear in a drop down list. Click on the group you just created to select that group. 4. Click *Generate Report*. This time it really will generate the report. Print it or save it to a file or whatever you want to do with it. Jerry

Unfortunately, Jerry, your instruction to "do nothing" other than selecting the named group is not necessarily correct because RootsMagic remembers the last option that was selected. So it is essential to select the "Selected people" radiobutton if it is not already selected. This is the result of poor design of the user interface which has led to this 50 post discussion, much confusion and mistaken expectations. The "People to include" dropdown list should be disabled for all options but "Selected people". Tom