Sandra replied privately that she is using RM4. The safety check on deleting a template that is used by a source may not have been implemented until later. Tom On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > In RM7, you only get a warning after you click on the first message > "Delete this source type" and only if there are sources using it. If no > source is using it, it is immediately deleted. So if you identified 10 that > gave NO warning, you must have deleted them or you did not even try to > delete them. > > Having merged duplicate sources, some of those may have used some of the > duplicate source templates that then became unused and therefore could be > deleted but they would not disappear on their own except by transferring > (drag'n'drop) to a new database (unused custom source templates are left > behind). > > Tom > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Sandra Studebaker <sastudebaker@att.net> > wrote: > >> Maybe an abberation, but I recently experienced a seeming contradiction >> to Tom's sage advice. Clicking the Delete option on each of 21 >> duplicate source templates, I identified 10 that gave NO warning that a >> source was attached. But fearful of doing so, I did NOT delete anything. >> Rather, from an alphabetically arranged Source List report >> containing pertinent Citations, I identified a number of duplicate >> Sources. When they were cleaned up the aforementioned 10 duplicate Source >> Templates disappeared. The remaining 11 duplicate Source Templates, WITH >> mystery sources, were resolved by our hero and his SQLite script. >> --Sandra >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Tom Holden via <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> >> *To:* Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> ; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2016 6:42 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [RMagic] Duplicate Source Template Problem >> >> If the template is used by any source, you will get a warning when you try >> to delete it so go ahead without fear. Just respond correctly when you get >> the warning! >> >> While RootsMagic Inc has yet to develop a function to merge identical >> source templates, I have provided a SQLite script that does so at >> >> http://sqlitetoolsforrootsmagic.wikispaces.com/Source+Templates+-+Merge+Duplicates >> >> Tom >> >> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Carol Anne via < >> rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> > I just clicked delete on two of them and they deleted without giving >> > me any warning that they were in use! I'm afraid to try deleting any >> > more even though I have backups. I'm afraid I'll make a real mess! >> > >> > Carol Anne >> > >> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > Yes, I checked that when I was checking everything else. Everything's >> > identical. >> > > >> > > Carol Anne >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Sandra Studebaker < >> sastudebaker@att.net> >> > wrote: >> > >> Don't know if it's pertinent, but wonder if variations in the >> "Details" >> > and >> > >> "Hints" fields beneath Source Templates > Edit is factored into the >> > >> requirements for matching sources. Has anyone checked that out? >> > >> --Sandra >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> >> > >> From: Carol Anne via >> > >> To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com >> > >> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:47 PM >> > >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] Duplicate Source Template Problem >> > >> >> > >> I copied and pasted the same template in each source template, >> > >> including the title. There was no way anything could be different. I >> > >> then ran all the database tools. I still have the duplicates. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Carol Anne >> > >> >> > >> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >>> Someone said the source templates were duplicated because they were >> > >>> not actually identical. Can anyone spot differences in the tempates >> > >>> below, which I copied and pasted from four of my identical >> templates? >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType], <i>[SiteName]</i> ([Url]: accessed >> > >>> [AccessDate])<, [Cd]>. >> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType], <i>[SiteName]</i> ([Url]: accessed >> > >>> [AccessDate])<, [Cd]>. >> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType], <i>[SiteName]</i> ([Url]: accessed >> > >>> [AccessDate])<, [Cd]>. >> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType], <i>[SiteName]</i> ([Url]: accessed >> > >>> [AccessDate])<, [Cd]>. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> “[Title],” <i>[SiteName]</i><, [Cd]>. >> > >>> “[Title],” <i>[SiteName]</i><, [Cd]>. >> > >>> “[Title],” <i>[SiteName]</i><, [Cd]>. >> > >>> “[Title],” <i>[SiteName]</i><, [Cd]>. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType]. <i>[SiteName]</i>. [Url]: [AccessDate]. >> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType]. <i>[SiteName]</i>. [Url]: [AccessDate]. >> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType]. <i>[SiteName]</i>. [Url]: [AccessDate]. >> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType]. <i>[SiteName]</i>. [Url]: [AccessDate]. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Would it be possible for RM to develop a merge function for >> identical >> > >>> source templates? >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Carol Anne >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> =================================== >> > >> RM list Archives: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> > >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > =================================== >> > RM list Archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >

I was able to delete all but two of the duplicates. So, they were duplicated, but not in use anywhere. Odd. They were all from The Master Genealogist. I don't know if that is pertinent to the problem, or if it's just a fact that most of my source templates naturally are from TMG. Carol Anne On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Tom Holden via <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Sandra replied privately that she is using RM4. The safety check on > deleting a template that is used by a source may not have been implemented > until later. > > Tom > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In RM7, you only get a warning after you click on the first message >> "Delete this source type" and only if there are sources using it. If no >> source is using it, it is immediately deleted. So if you identified 10 that >> gave NO warning, you must have deleted them or you did not even try to >> delete them. >> >> Having merged duplicate sources, some of those may have used some of the >> duplicate source templates that then became unused and therefore could be >> deleted but they would not disappear on their own except by transferring >> (drag'n'drop) to a new database (unused custom source templates are left >> behind). >> >> Tom >> >> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Sandra Studebaker <sastudebaker@att.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Maybe an abberation, but I recently experienced a seeming contradiction >>> to Tom's sage advice. Clicking the Delete option on each of 21 >>> duplicate source templates, I identified 10 that gave NO warning that a >>> source was attached. But fearful of doing so, I did NOT delete anything. >>> Rather, from an alphabetically arranged Source List report >>> containing pertinent Citations, I identified a number of duplicate >>> Sources. When they were cleaned up the aforementioned 10 duplicate Source >>> Templates disappeared. The remaining 11 duplicate Source Templates, WITH >>> mystery sources, were resolved by our hero and his SQLite script. >>> --Sandra >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Tom Holden via <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> >>> *To:* Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> ; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com >>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2016 6:42 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [RMagic] Duplicate Source Template Problem >>> >>> If the template is used by any source, you will get a warning when you try >>> to delete it so go ahead without fear. Just respond correctly when you get >>> the warning! >>> >>> While RootsMagic Inc has yet to develop a function to merge identical >>> source templates, I have provided a SQLite script that does so at >>> >>> http://sqlitetoolsforrootsmagic.wikispaces.com/Source+Templates+-+Merge+Duplicates >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Carol Anne via < >>> rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> > I just clicked delete on two of them and they deleted without giving >>> > me any warning that they were in use! I'm afraid to try deleting any >>> > more even though I have backups. I'm afraid I'll make a real mess! >>> > >>> > Carol Anne >>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > > Yes, I checked that when I was checking everything else. Everything's >>> > identical. >>> > > >>> > > Carol Anne >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Sandra Studebaker < >>> sastudebaker@att.net> >>> > wrote: >>> > >> Don't know if it's pertinent, but wonder if variations in the >>> "Details" >>> > and >>> > >> "Hints" fields beneath Source Templates > Edit is factored into the >>> > >> requirements for matching sources. Has anyone checked that out? >>> > >> --Sandra >>> > >> >>> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > >> >>> > >> From: Carol Anne via >>> > >> To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com >>> > >> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:47 PM >>> > >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] Duplicate Source Template Problem >>> > >> >>> > >> I copied and pasted the same template in each source template, >>> > >> including the title. There was no way anything could be different. I >>> > >> then ran all the database tools. I still have the duplicates. >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> Carol Anne >>> > >> >>> > >> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> Someone said the source templates were duplicated because they were >>> > >>> not actually identical. Can anyone spot differences in the tempates >>> > >>> below, which I copied and pasted from four of my identical >>> templates? >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType], <i>[SiteName]</i> ([Url]: accessed >>> > >>> [AccessDate])<, [Cd]>. >>> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType], <i>[SiteName]</i> ([Url]: accessed >>> > >>> [AccessDate])<, [Cd]>. >>> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType], <i>[SiteName]</i> ([Url]: accessed >>> > >>> [AccessDate])<, [Cd]>. >>> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType], <i>[SiteName]</i> ([Url]: accessed >>> > >>> [AccessDate])<, [Cd]>. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> “[Title],” <i>[SiteName]</i><, [Cd]>. >>> > >>> “[Title],” <i>[SiteName]</i><, [Cd]>. >>> > >>> “[Title],” <i>[SiteName]</i><, [Cd]>. >>> > >>> “[Title],” <i>[SiteName]</i><, [Cd]>. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType]. <i>[SiteName]</i>. [Url]: [AccessDate]. >>> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType]. <i>[SiteName]</i>. [Url]: [AccessDate]. >>> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType]. <i>[SiteName]</i>. [Url]: [AccessDate]. >>> > >>> “[Title],” [RecordType]. <i>[SiteName]</i>. [Url]: [AccessDate]. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Would it be possible for RM to develop a merge function for >>> identical >>> > >>> source templates? >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Carol Anne >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> =================================== >>> > >> RM list Archives: >>> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >>> > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >>> > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >>> > >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> ------------------------------- >>> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> > without >>> > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > =================================== >>> > RM list Archives: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >>> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >>> > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >>> > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> >>> >>> =================================== >>> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >>> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >>> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message