Instead of trying the various multi-step procedures (which I am not convinced are being done properly), why not just use the built-in End-of-Line report in RM7? Highlight the person you want the ancestors of and go to Reports>lists>individual-list and click on Create Report. Then where it says Selected People, choose end of line from the drop down list. Then click on Generate Report. I have 7.2.0.1 (5 May 2016). -- ====================================================== Charles R. Weese, Jackson, OH I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm I am also the listowner of the Jackson County mailing list: ohjackso@rootsweb.ancestry.com and the Vinton County mailing list: ohvinton@rootsweb.ancestry.com however, someone else has the Gallia County mailing list. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Click Reports, then Lists, then Individual List, then under People to Print select "No parents - people with no parents entered" Carol On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:57 PM, MScheffler via < rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I tried this too and am not seening the end of line report. > Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Finnigan via > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:38 PM > To: cweese@hughes.net ; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report > > Charles > I'm using 7.2.0.1 (5 May 2016) also BUT I'm not seeing the 'End of Line' > option you are suggesting in the drop-down list. I only have 'Everyone' and > 'Select from List'. Am I missing something? > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charles R. > Weese > via > Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 11:17 AM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report > > Instead of trying the various multi-step procedures (which I am not > convinced are being done properly), why not just use the built-in > End-of-Line report in RM7? > Highlight the person you want the ancestors of and go to > Reports>lists>individual-list and click on Create Report. > Then where it says Selected People, choose end of line from the drop down > list. > Then click on Generate Report. > I have 7.2.0.1 (5 May 2016). > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I must be missing something since I don't see anything that says end of line ... did a 'no parents' thing but then I get everyone in the database, not just the directs in the various lines !!!!!! Pat Mc -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charles R. Weese via Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 1:08 PM To: Sue Maxwell; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report This will create a named group of the end of line ancestors, but I don't think there is a way to print a named group in RM7. My procedure logically does the same thing but it creates a report that can be printed. By the way, there now appears to be an end of line report in RM7. I don't know when it appeared. Highlight the individual you want the ancestors of then Go to Reports>lists>individual list click on create report selected people "end of line" click on generate report. On 5/19/2016 12:16 PM, Sue Maxwell wrote: > Pat, here is a post that Renee listed from 2013 in the online forum: > > You can create a list or group of your end-of-line ancestors using > RootsMagic. > > Reports > Lists > Individual List > No parents > People to include: select from a list > Highlight the starting person and check their box > then click on Mark group, select "Ancestors of highlighted person" > Direct ancestors - set the number of generations > Click OK, OK, generate report > > You can also create a group of your end-of-line ancestors and filter > your list on them. > > Create a Group - New > Highlight starting person > Click Mark Group > Select all ancestors of a person - direct ancestors only > Click Unmark Group > Clear people by data fields > Select "Number of sets of parents", "greater than" and enter 0 > Click OK, OK, OK > Enter name for the group > > > > -- > Sue Maxwell > http://granitegenealogy.blogspot.com/ > Utah Sandy Area Family History Advisor > > -- ====================================================== Charles R. Weese, Jackson, OH I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm I am also the listowner of the Jackson County mailing list: ohjackso@rootsweb.ancestry.com and the Vinton County mailing list: ohvinton@rootsweb.ancestry.com however, someone else has the Gallia County mailing list. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'll weigh in on this discussion with what I've experienced in trying to duplicate what others have posted.... >> Pat, here is a post that Renee listed from 2013 in the online forum: >> >> You can create a list or group of your end-of-line ancestors using >> RootsMagic. >> >> Reports > Lists > Individual List > No parents >> People to include: select from a list >> Highlight the starting person and check their box >> then click on Mark group, select "Ancestors of highlighted person" >> Direct ancestors - set the number of generations >> Click OK, OK, generate report This just doesn't work. As others have posted several times, this produces the "end of line" for everyone in the database. This "should" work, but it doesn't. >> You can also create a group of your end-of-line ancestors and filter >> your list on them. >> >> Create a Group - New >> Highlight starting person >> Click Mark Group >> Select all ancestors of a person - direct ancestors only >> Click Unmark Group >> Clear people by data fields >> Select "Number of sets of parents", "greater than" and enter 0 >> Click OK, OK, OK >> Enter name for the group >> This "kind of" works. You can certainly create a named group, I named mine "end of Line" but if I then try the report/list specifying to use this list, again RM produces the names of everyone in the database with an end of line. However, since the named group certainly looks like it's the right data. I then created a custom report with only one field, <name>, and in generating the report to use the named group "end of line", and got what I wanted, a list of names that are my ancestral end of lines. So in my view there is a rather obnoxious bug in the report/list feature of RM. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://sites.rootsmagic.com/CharlieHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir

Pat -I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly - BUT -If you print out a pedigree chart - and follow the trail for each individual -You will reach the "end of the line" and see the folks with no parents. Simple, easy, and gives me what I understand you're looking for. Hope it helps,Love, Lou From: Pat McGrath via <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> To: cweese@hughes.net; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report Having no luck!  It colors the correct folks, but then pulls a report with my entire database regardless of having done the 'color is' selection !!!!! Anyone else have any suggestion for 'end of line' report?  What folks in a give line, or even in the entire database (directs only) do not have parents entered yet !!!! Pat Mc -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Weese [mailto:cweese@hughes.net] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:12 PM To: Pat McGrath; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report If I understand what you want, this will do it. Be sure the person you want the ancestors for is highlighted. Go to Tools>Color Code People     Set color to "whatever"     For these people = ancestors of current person     Click OK Go to Reports>Lists>Individual List     Click Create Report     Selected People = select from list     Click Mark Group     Select people by data fields     Select fields = Number of sets of parents equal 0     and Color coding is "whatever"     OK OK OK then use check boxes to select what info you want to include for each person on the report Click Generate Report On 5/12/2016 5:54 PM, Pat McGrath via wrote: > Trying to get a report of the people that are at the 'end of the line' in my > various lines that do not have parents so I can search for them!  Seems like > a simple basic report, but I can't seem to find one .. Did find the > Individual List --- can select either 'no parents' for everyone in the > database which then includes folks not in my 'direct line'. > > > > I want my direct lines .. End of line folks OR be able to find those folks > in my 'group' for a specific line > > > > No luck with either attempt! > > > > Help!!!! > > > > Pat Mc > > > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ====================================================== Charles R. Weese, Jackson, OH I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites:     Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm     Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm     Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm I am also the listowner of the Jackson County mailing list: ohjackso@rootsweb.ancestry.com and the Vinton County mailing list: ohvinton@rootsweb.ancestry.com however, someone else has the Gallia County mailing list. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, The first procedure does not work. The People to include dialog is ineffectual when any radiobutton other than Selected people is selected. When the No Parents choice is made, Selected people is disabled and the result is always everyone in the database with no parent. Tom On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Sue Maxwell via < rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Pat, here is a post that Renee listed from 2013 in the online forum: > > You can create a list or group of your end-of-line ancestors using > RootsMagic. > > Reports > Lists > Individual List > No parents > People to include: select from a list > Highlight the starting person and check their box > then click on Mark group, select "Ancestors of highlighted person" > Direct ancestors - set the number of generations > Click OK, OK, generate report > > >

Tom, you are correct. Since her post was in 2013, I am guessing that something has changed. The second process works like a charm. Sue On 5/19/2016 12:47 PM, Tom Holden wrote: > Sue, > > The first procedure does not work. The People to include dialog is > ineffectual when any radiobutton other than Selected people is > selected. When the No Parents choice is made, Selected people is > disabled and the result is always everyone in the database with no parent. > > Tom > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Sue Maxwell via > <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com <mailto:rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com>> > wrote: > > Pat, here is a post that Renee listed from 2013 in the online forum: > > You can create a list or group of your end-of-line ancestors using > RootsMagic. > > Reports > Lists > Individual List > No parents > People to include: select from a list > Highlight the starting person and check their box > then click on Mark group, select "Ancestors of highlighted person" > Direct ancestors - set the number of generations > Click OK, OK, generate report > > -- Sue Maxwell http://granitegenealogy.blogspot.com/ Utah Sandy Area Family History Advisor

This will create a named group of the end of line ancestors, but I don't think there is a way to print a named group in RM7. My procedure logically does the same thing but it creates a report that can be printed. By the way, there now appears to be an end of line report in RM7. I don't know when it appeared. Highlight the individual you want the ancestors of then Go to Reports>lists>individual list click on create report selected people "end of line" click on generate report. On 5/19/2016 12:16 PM, Sue Maxwell wrote: > Pat, here is a post that Renee listed from 2013 in the online forum: > > You can create a list or group of your end-of-line ancestors using > RootsMagic. > > Reports > Lists > Individual List > No parents > People to include: select from a list > Highlight the starting person and check their box > then click on Mark group, select "Ancestors of highlighted person" > Direct ancestors - set the number of generations > Click OK, OK, generate report > > You can also create a group of your end-of-line ancestors and filter > your list on them. > > Create a Group - New > Highlight starting person > Click Mark Group > Select all ancestors of a person - direct ancestors only > Click Unmark Group > Clear people by data fields > Select "Number of sets of parents", "greater than" and enter 0 > Click OK, OK, OK > Enter name for the group > > > > -- > Sue Maxwell > http://granitegenealogy.blogspot.com/ > Utah Sandy Area Family History Advisor > > -- ====================================================== Charles R. Weese, Jackson, OH I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm I am also the listowner of the Jackson County mailing list: ohjackso@rootsweb.ancestry.com and the Vinton County mailing list: ohvinton@rootsweb.ancestry.com however, someone else has the Gallia County mailing list. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Are you sure you are doing it exactly as described? If you do, there is no way it can be printing your entire database. You will only print your ancestors who have no sets of parents. On 5/19/2016 11:34 AM, Pat McGrath wrote: > Having no luck! It colors the correct folks, but then pulls a report with > my entire database regardless of having done the 'color is' selection !!!!! > > Anyone else have any suggestion for 'end of line' report? What folks in a > give line, or even in the entire database (directs only) do not have parents > entered yet !!!! > > Pat Mc > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles R. Weese [mailto:cweese@hughes.net] > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:12 PM > To: Pat McGrath; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report > > If I understand what you want, this will do it. > > Be sure the person you want the ancestors for is highlighted. > > Go to Tools>Color Code People > Set color to "whatever" > For these people = ancestors of current person > Click OK > > Go to Reports>Lists>Individual List > Click Create Report > Selected People = select from list > Click Mark Group > Select people by data fields > Select fields = Number of sets of parents equal 0 > and Color coding is "whatever" > OK > OK > OK > then use check boxes to select what info you want to include for each person > on the report Click Generate Report > > > On 5/12/2016 5:54 PM, Pat McGrath via wrote: >> Trying to get a report of the people that are at the 'end of the line' in > my >> various lines that do not have parents so I can search for them! Seems > like >> a simple basic report, but I can't seem to find one .. Did find the >> Individual List --- can select either 'no parents' for everyone in the >> database which then includes folks not in my 'direct line'. >> >> >> >> I want my direct lines .. End of line folks OR be able to find those folks >> in my 'group' for a specific line >> >> >> >> No luck with either attempt! >> >> >> >> Help!!!! >> >> >> >> Pat Mc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -- ====================================================== Charles R. Weese, Jackson, OH I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm I am also the listowner of the Jackson County mailing list: ohjackso@rootsweb.ancestry.com and the Vinton County mailing list: ohvinton@rootsweb.ancestry.com however, someone else has the Gallia County mailing list. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Having no luck! It colors the correct folks, but then pulls a report with my entire database regardless of having done the 'color is' selection !!!!! Anyone else have any suggestion for 'end of line' report? What folks in a give line, or even in the entire database (directs only) do not have parents entered yet !!!! Pat Mc -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Weese [mailto:cweese@hughes.net] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:12 PM To: Pat McGrath; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report If I understand what you want, this will do it. Be sure the person you want the ancestors for is highlighted. Go to Tools>Color Code People Set color to "whatever" For these people = ancestors of current person Click OK Go to Reports>Lists>Individual List Click Create Report Selected People = select from list Click Mark Group Select people by data fields Select fields = Number of sets of parents equal 0 and Color coding is "whatever" OK OK OK then use check boxes to select what info you want to include for each person on the report Click Generate Report On 5/12/2016 5:54 PM, Pat McGrath via wrote: > Trying to get a report of the people that are at the 'end of the line' in my > various lines that do not have parents so I can search for them! Seems like > a simple basic report, but I can't seem to find one .. Did find the > Individual List --- can select either 'no parents' for everyone in the > database which then includes folks not in my 'direct line'. > > > > I want my direct lines .. End of line folks OR be able to find those folks > in my 'group' for a specific line > > > > No luck with either attempt! > > > > Help!!!! > > > > Pat Mc > > > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ====================================================== Charles R. Weese, Jackson, OH I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm I am also the listowner of the Jackson County mailing list: ohjackso@rootsweb.ancestry.com and the Vinton County mailing list: ohvinton@rootsweb.ancestry.com however, someone else has the Gallia County mailing list. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Charles, I may be doing something wrong but this report does not give the end-of-line parent as Pat is asking for. I could not choose my ancestors only; the report gave me all the ancestors in my database which include my husband's and children's spouses. I even tried creating a group but when I click on No Parents, the report ignores the group I have chosen. Perhaps I am creating this report incorrectly, but I could not find another way to do it. Margie in Washington State Message: 5 Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 13:08:13 -0400 From: "Charles R. Weese" <cweese@hughes.net> Subject: Re: [RMagic] HELP - need 'End of Line' report To: Sue Maxwell <smaxwl@earthlink.net>, rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <689c71ea-0aae-604a-f8b9-8cbd820c4c4b@hughes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed This will create a named group of the end of line ancestors, but I don't think there is a way to print a named group in RM7. My procedure logically does the same thing but it creates a report that can be printed. By the way, there now appears to be an end of line report in RM7. I don't know when it appeared. Highlight the individual you want the ancestors of then Go to Reports>lists>individual list click on create report selected people "end of line"

Pat, here is a post that Renee listed from 2013 in the online forum: You can create a list or group of your end-of-line ancestors using RootsMagic. Reports > Lists > Individual List > No parents People to include: select from a list Highlight the starting person and check their box then click on Mark group, select "Ancestors of highlighted person" Direct ancestors - set the number of generations Click OK, OK, generate report You can also create a group of your end-of-line ancestors and filter your list on them. Create a Group - New Highlight starting person Click Mark Group Select all ancestors of a person - direct ancestors only Click Unmark Group Clear people by data fields Select "Number of sets of parents", "greater than" and enter 0 Click OK, OK, OK Enter name for the group -- Sue Maxwell http://granitegenealogy.blogspot.com/ Utah Sandy Area Family History Advisor

Today I reported the problem I'm seeing (described below) to RM support. They had me send a copy of my database, and a short time later sent me a workaround that I've since tested and found to work. So, I guess my database is "not" the problem. In case anyone else encounters the problem, here's the workaround that Terri sent: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wanted to get back to you and give you some instructions to have you try. Testing your file out and running the descendant list report it gave me a "Range Check Error" message. Usually when you get this type of error message its because your trying to generate a report that is HUGE!! I was able to get around this error and generate a report for 9 generations. Here are the instructions that I would like to have you try: 1. Open up the Descendant List report to the main settings screen. 2. Click on the Numbering Style button and select Outline from the options 3. Under the generations you will first need to select 7 generations 4. On the Spaces to Indent Each Generation I need for you to set that to 6 5. Uncheck the options bellow for: a. Print Color Coding b. Print Place Details c. Print Private Facts d. Print Preparer Information 6. Once you have done all of this you will need to generate the report The report will open up and you will have about 339 pages on this report. Here is what you will need to do to get 8 generations: 1. Once you have generated the 7 generations with 339 pages you will need to click on the settings button located in the upper left corner of the report viewer screen. This will take you back into the Descendant List report settings screen. 2. When you get into this screen you will need to increase the generations from 7 to 8 3. Then generate the report again. When you do this it will generate the report and it might take a while depending on your computer. Most likely towards the end it will try to bring up a RootsMagic Error screen. When you see this screen come up it might be blank and you might not see the report message this time. Leave this screen sitting there for a good minute. Then click on the red button with the white x mark on it located in the upper right corner of the screen. This will close that error screen out. Then the report will open up with the additional pages. With 8 generations I was able to generate 532 pages. That was a huge leap from the 7 generations with 339 pages. So you can see this is why you kept running into the error. Now, if you want to add a 9th generation to the report you will need to repeat those last steps all over again by clicking on the settings button in the top left corner of the screen and bumping the report up to 9 generations. Then generate the report again. If the RootsMagic Error screen opens up again wait a good minute and close out if it. Then this should bring up the 9 generations with 541 pages this time. Do not try and bump the report up to 9 generations all at one time. If you do it might give you that error again and you might have to start generating the report all over again from scratch. Just generate the report one generation at a time starting with generation 7 and bump it up one generation at a time from that point on. Let me know if you run into any issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------- As I mentioned, I ran the report and was successful in generating a 10 generation descendant list ( I only have 10 generations so far from my original Hoffpauir ancestor). The report is large, 2206 pages of descendants, but I asked for an index as well, which increased the total length of the report to 2486 pages. I was able to save the report as a PDF after following all the steps in the workaround. > > Anyone else having this kind of problem? I know RM has had problems in > the past with large descendants lists, but I thought they had been > corrected in earlier versions (I'm using 7.2.0.1) The program seems to > complete the generation of the list, but when I go to view or save it, > it simply locks up and I have to go to Task Manager to close RM. I don't > know how large the list is because I haven't been able to view it all, > but the screen shows nearly a thousand pages, even thought it's locked > up and I can only view page 1. > > -- > Charlie Hoffpauir > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> > > -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://sites.rootsmagic.com/CharlieHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir

You could go: Reports -> Lists -> Individual List -> Create Report Selected People = Select from List Mark Group -> Select People by Data Fields -> Burial / Place Details / Contains / "cemetery name" OK -> OK -> OK -> Generate Report Unfortunately this only gives you a list of names - no details about when they were buried. You could create a Custom Report, with the appropriate fields (and use the same selection criteria from above), to get the extra detail. David -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of itsallrelatives via Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2016 11:52 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Cemetery Report Can someone please tell me how or direct me where to find how to do a report of everyone buried in a specific cemetery? Thanks, Yvonne B. =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tamara Jones blogged on the loops topic three years ago in http://www.tamurajones.net/FindingAncestralLoops.xhtml . Some software that has loop detection is listed there but there may be more developed since. Tom > On May 17, 2016, at 7:09 AM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > > ... you have an ancestor linked to himself also as a descendant. In RM, there is no tool to find such loops. There is in some other software. You might detect it by visual inspection of the report you succeeded in getting - there should be much repetition.

I downloaded version 6 and tried the same report (Descendant List) with the same error as I got with version 7, so I am either mistaken that the problem was fixed with version 6, or the problem is in my database. RM tech support now has a copy of the database, so I'll soon know if the problem is with the data. Thanks to everyone who tried to help with the problem, support on this list is really great. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://sites.rootsmagic.com/CharlieHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir

On 5/17/2016 8:58 AM, Kenneth Harrington via wrote: > OK. This is exactly why I remain in the background. > > First, I was describing a scientific method for testing for a potential issue in RootsMagic. I went to a very large number and then a smaller number that would bound the potential problem to see if I could isolate the problem with a second database. And I found a similar (maybe not the same) issue and reported it. > > Yes, it could be that both databases have circular logic. However, scientifically, it tells me that there may also be an issue with RootsMagic. It is telling that there is a report of the issue in an early version that disappeared in a subsequent version and now has reappeared in the current version. (Not my testing but another's.) Going back to test one of the databases with the version that supposedly worked would be a validation process. > > For me, at this point, I don't care. Those who wish to debate genealogical research methods and motivations need to take that discussion elsewhere. This is a discussion about RootsMagic. > > BTW, I do not have 300 generations. I do not have 100 generations. However, my test did note a difference in the two list requests. The 300 request kept compiling for over a half hour. The 100 generation request generated an error in a much shorter time. Those are again data points for someone to look at if anyone is really interested in issues with RootsMagic. > Ken, Sorry to have involved you in the harassment, but really appreciate your input. As an update, I've turned the "problem" over to RM support, including sending them a copy of my database so they can reproduce what I'm seeing. I'll post back here with whatever they come up with, including if it is all simply a problem with my database. > > > -----Original Message----- > <snipped> -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://sites.rootsmagic.com/CharlieHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir

OK. This is exactly why I remain in the background. First, I was describing a scientific method for testing for a potential issue in RootsMagic. I went to a very large number and then a smaller number that would bound the potential problem to see if I could isolate the problem with a second database. And I found a similar (maybe not the same) issue and reported it. Yes, it could be that both databases have circular logic. However, scientifically, it tells me that there may also be an issue with RootsMagic. It is telling that there is a report of the issue in an early version that disappeared in a subsequent version and now has reappeared in the current version. (Not my testing but another's.) Going back to test one of the databases with the version that supposedly worked would be a validation process. For me, at this point, I don't care. Those who wish to debate genealogical research methods and motivations need to take that discussion elsewhere. This is a discussion about RootsMagic. BTW, I do not have 300 generations. I do not have 100 generations. However, my test did note a difference in the two list requests. The 300 request kept compiling for over a half hour. The 100 generation request generated an error in a much shorter time. Those are again data points for someone to look at if anyone is really interested in issues with RootsMagic. -----Original Message----- From: George W. Durman via <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> To: Pat McGrath <patnbrian@charter.net>; rootsmagic-users <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 16, 2016 11:11 pm Subject: Re: [RMagic] RM crashing in creating a large descendants list. Pat, there is no way that would be possible!!!!! 300 generations, at about 25 years per generation, would be about 7,500 years ago. Ken, have you discovered some kind of crystal ball that lets you look back that far? Why would anyone even try to do a 300, 100, 50, or 25 generation list? Utter nonsense! Yeah, I know, some "researchers" have traced their ancestors back to Adam and Eve. Don't know how many generations that would be. George At 16-05-2016 07:35 PM Monday, you wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >HOW did you manage to create a database back 300 generations???? I am >jealous!!!!! > >Pat Mc > >-----Original Message----- >From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harringkbat via >Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:24 PM >To: Charlie Hoffpauir; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [RMagic] RM crashing in creating a large descendants list. > >I needed a break. So I started to play. I tried generating a 300 >generation list. After 30 minutes, I cancelled it. Then I tried 100 >generations; that generated an error. Then I tried 50, then 25, then 15; >all of them generated an error. > >So I went back to the default 10 generations and no problem. It was very >fast. Then I started to increase the number of generations: 11, 12, and 13. >Each list got progressively slower. It generated an error again at 14. > >Saving to a pdf was no problem at 13 generations. > >I am glad I don't use descendants lists very often. > >Ken > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 16, 2016, at 2:05 PM, Charlie Hoffpauir via ><rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > >> On 5/16/2016 3:48 PM, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: > >>> On 5/16/2016 3:08 PM, Jesse Davis wrote: > >>> I just created a NEHGS descendant list with no problems. > >>> It had 2500 pages, 4062 sources and about 31750 names. > >>> I am using version 7.2.0.0 on WIN7. > >>> J Davis > >> Jesse, > >> > >> Thanks for that feedback. I just tried again, and it seems that the > >> problem I'm getting is when RM attempts to save the list as a PDF. > >> This time I first saved it as an RTF file, which opened fine in Word. > >> But I then tried to save it as a PDF and it once again locked up. so > >> now I at least have the problem narrowed down. I closed the program > >> (again using Task manager) and re-opened and this time choose only 4 > >> generations, and this time the program generated the PDF just fine. > >> I'll keep testing and post again when I determine at just how many > >> generations the lockup occurs.... although based on your data, it > >> seems to handle much larger data sets than mine. (My RTF file > >> resulted in a Word doc file of 973 pages, I don't know how many names > >> that is, but it's got to be much less than my entire database of > >> 33783 people) > >> > >> I just noticed that you mentioned that you created a NEHGS descendant > >> list. I was NOT generating that kind of narrative report.... just a > >> simple Descendant list showing names of descendants, their spouse, > >> and birth and death date. > > <snip> > > This is not working out as expected. This time I got a Range Error > > message from RM instead of completing the generation of the list, when > > I had worked up to 7 generations of descendants. This makes me wonder > > if the earlier list I'd generated is complete, or if it's missing many > > names, since it was set for 10 generations, and the program "completed" > > the report. All in all I have to say that this is very disturbing. I > > did check the box showing the Range Error to send information to RM > > about the problem. > > > > -- > > Charlie Hoffpauir > > > > http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ > > http://sites.rootsmagic.com/CharlieHoffpauir/ > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ > > http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >=================================== >RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >=================================== >RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** George W. 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Start with your database; select People View; Look on right side for Burials. If not there, go to Burials. If not listed, go to Customize and add or subtract as it suits you. When you go back to list it will be there; now at the top click the column heading for an arrangement that suits you. You can take each place; click on it which brings you back to person edit view ; color code and return to people view for next one. When complete you can make a group of the color. Jon On 5/16/16, its all relatives via <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Can someone please tell me how or direct me where to find how to do a > report of everyone buried in a specific cemetery? > > Thanks, > Yvonne B. > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Cunningham Genealogist since 1987 Retired International Genealogist RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com

Ken, regardless of the number of generations in your database, it should not matter how many you specify for the report, within reason. There is a limit of 32 for reports that use Ahnentafel numbering. The testing you have done is perfectly valid in trying to ascertain a breaking point. I daresay that there is a generational loop in both yours and Charlie's databases that comes into play at fewer than the number of generations at which you detect a slowdown. By that I mean you have an ancestor linked to himself also as a descendant. In RM, there is no tool to find such loops. There is in some other software. You might detect it by visual inspection of the report you succeeded in getting - there should be much repetition. Tom On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Harringkbat via < rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I needed a break. So I started to play. I tried generating a 300 > generation list. After 30 minutes, I cancelled it. Then I tried 100 > generations; that generated an error. Then I tried 50, then 25, then 15; > all of them generated an error. > > So I went back to the default 10 generations and no problem. It was very > fast. Then I started to increase the number of generations: 11, 12, and 13. > Each list got progressively slower. It generated an error again at 14. > > Saving to a pdf was no problem at 13 generations. > > I am glad I don't use descendants lists very often. > > Ken > > > >