Elizabeth Shown Mills was the one who stated using the NA (US) Manuscripts in an archived discussion on APG listserve. RM set up the template to follow that format from Evidence Explained. For those of you who wish to create your own template you may want to see this pamphlet on the NA site. http://www.archives.gov/publications/general-info-leaflets/17-citing-records.pdf Suzanne On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Genbits <genbits@charter.net> wrote: > There are five choices in the "military" sources templates. Are your > copies photo copies or digitized copies? I would choose one of the under > Military choices and use one for all parts of one Civil War Pension. I > have > affidata's request for , payroll sheet etc.. in one Pension File with one > record number. I may use one of template: Military. > > Mine are actual photo copies direct from NARA [1983] way before any were > digitized and put on web sites. But I always state in the footnote, date > of > assessed and type of copy. I also have not transferred this source from the > way it was in free form before the templates became available. There are > some other more inclusive free forms templates in forum section on Tips and > Helps, that might work better for you. TomH has one on his website I > believe. > > Tough choice. Remember you want you or someone else to be able to find it > again... > > Nettie's Genbits > Annette DeCourcy Towler > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Like Stan, I, too, would prefer to use historically accurate names associated with each event and am disappointed to have to compromise in this respect. Leamington, Leamington Priors, Leamington Spa and Royal Leamington Spa are all valid names for the same place at different times in history. Rob. Stan Armstrong wrote: >I guess what I am asking is whether RM might be given an alternate place >facility comparable to its alternate name facility. RM would then be >able to link many alternate historical place names to the same modern >place name. >I like to have historically accurate names associated with each event >where possible.

Hi Nancy, Yes, I'm also anxious to see if there are any customized templates out there in RM land. Tim On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, <ndmessier@aol.com> wrote: > Bless you for asking this question, Tim! > > I'm in the same situation (plus I'm new to RootsMagic). > > Someone (somewhere in my readings) recommended citing each document in the > pension file (each one you use for gen. purposes, anyway) as a separate > source. I can see that this could have some merit, especially since my > pension files has several dozen documents, only a few of which contain gen. > information. > > I'd love to hear what others who are experienced have done with regard to > Civil War pension files. > > Thanks, > Nancy. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Cox <timdcoxsf@gmail.com> > To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS <ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Jun 9, 2012 3:45 pm > Subject: [RMagic] Source Template for Civil War Pension files > > > I recently received photographs of the complete pension and CMSR. Hundreds > of photos taken by a friend while at NARA. > I want to source them correctly but can't figure out exactly how to make it > a good citation. > > I looked at the templates already in RM5 but all of them are for filmed > versions of the records. I tried to create a new source citation, but it > just doesn't look right. > > Has anyone created a source citation, and is willing to share it, for Civil > War Pension files and the CMSR that are not filmed, but are digital images > of the actual papers? > > Thanks for helping! > > -- > Tim Cox > timdcoxsf@gmail.com > San Francisco > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Tim Cox timdcoxsf@gmail.com San Francisco

Thanks Suzanne. I looked at that one but wasn't sure if it was the best one to use but since you mentioned it, I'll look at it again. No need to re-create the wheel! I'm still interested in seeing if anyone has created some customized templates they are willing to share. Tim On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Suzanne Brayer <sybrayer@gmail.com> wrote: > Under Source Types select N.A. (U.S.) Manuscripts. This references Evidence > Explained [EE, QC-11, p 541, sec 11.43, p 608] No need to create a new > template. > Suzanne > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, <ndmessier@aol.com> wrote: > > > Bless you for asking this question, Tim! > > > > I'm in the same situation (plus I'm new to RootsMagic). > > > > Someone (somewhere in my readings) recommended citing each document in > the > > pension file (each one you use for gen. purposes, anyway) as a separate > > source. I can see that this could have some merit, especially since my > > pension files has several dozen documents, only a few of which contain > gen. > > information. > > > > I'd love to hear what others who are experienced have done with regard to > > Civil War pension files. > > > > Thanks, > > Nancy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Cox <timdcoxsf@gmail.com> > > To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS <ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Jun 9, 2012 3:45 pm > > Subject: [RMagic] Source Template for Civil War Pension files > > > > > > I recently received photographs of the complete pension and CMSR. > Hundreds > > of photos taken by a friend while at NARA. > > I want to source them correctly but can't figure out exactly how to make > it > > a good citation. > > > > I looked at the templates already in RM5 but all of them are for filmed > > versions of the records. I tried to create a new source citation, but it > > just doesn't look right. > > > > Has anyone created a source citation, and is willing to share it, for > Civil > > War Pension files and the CMSR that are not filmed, but are digital > images > > of the actual papers? > > > > Thanks for helping! > > > > -- > > Tim Cox > > timdcoxsf@gmail.com > > San Francisco > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of > > the message > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Tim Cox timdcoxsf@gmail.com San Francisco

Under Source Types select N.A. (U.S.) Manuscripts. This references Evidence Explained [EE, QC-11, p 541, sec 11.43, p 608] No need to create a new template. Suzanne On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, <ndmessier@aol.com> wrote: > Bless you for asking this question, Tim! > > I'm in the same situation (plus I'm new to RootsMagic). > > Someone (somewhere in my readings) recommended citing each document in the > pension file (each one you use for gen. purposes, anyway) as a separate > source. I can see that this could have some merit, especially since my > pension files has several dozen documents, only a few of which contain gen. > information. > > I'd love to hear what others who are experienced have done with regard to > Civil War pension files. > > Thanks, > Nancy. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Cox <timdcoxsf@gmail.com> > To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS <ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Jun 9, 2012 3:45 pm > Subject: [RMagic] Source Template for Civil War Pension files > > > I recently received photographs of the complete pension and CMSR. Hundreds > of photos taken by a friend while at NARA. > I want to source them correctly but can't figure out exactly how to make it > a good citation. > > I looked at the templates already in RM5 but all of them are for filmed > versions of the records. I tried to create a new source citation, but it > just doesn't look right. > > Has anyone created a source citation, and is willing to share it, for Civil > War Pension files and the CMSR that are not filmed, but are digital images > of the actual papers? > > Thanks for helping! > > -- > Tim Cox > timdcoxsf@gmail.com > San Francisco > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Under Source Type use NA (U.S.) Manuscripts. This references Evidence Explained [EE, QC-11, p 541, sec 11.43, p 608] No need to create your own. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Tim Cox <timdcoxsf@gmail.com> wrote: > I recently received photographs of the complete pension and CMSR. Hundreds > of photos taken by a friend while at NARA. > I want to source them correctly but can't figure out exactly how to make it > a good citation. > > I looked at the templates already in RM5 but all of them are for filmed > versions of the records. I tried to create a new source citation, but it > just doesn't look right. > > Has anyone created a source citation, and is willing to share it, for Civil > War Pension files and the CMSR that are not filmed, but are digital images > of the actual papers? > > Thanks for helping! > > -- > Tim Cox > timdcoxsf@gmail.com > San Francisco > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I recently received photographs of the complete pension and CMSR. Hundreds of photos taken by a friend while at NARA. I want to source them correctly but can't figure out exactly how to make it a good citation. I looked at the templates already in RM5 but all of them are for filmed versions of the records. I tried to create a new source citation, but it just doesn't look right. Has anyone created a source citation, and is willing to share it, for Civil War Pension files and the CMSR that are not filmed, but are digital images of the actual papers? Thanks for helping! -- Tim Cox timdcoxsf@gmail.com San Francisco

I have several locations where I want the historical name also. I have put "(historical)" in the name field. You could also enter the dates by the (historical 1729 -1768) or whaterver the date ranges are. For these locations , I go to the internet and look up the location and use the wikipedia entry and copy it to the notes. Looks to me like this would word great for the Leamington situation. There already ways help trace the migration patterns for particular area/times etc so I would not be interested in some report that showed a breakout in the manner you are asking for in West Virginia / Virginia. I have counties in NY which changed names back and forth a couple times. I don't want to see all the entries then as it would just probably muddy the brain even more! Learning about migration patterns in general seems to be of more use overall, up the Hudson, out the Erie Canal, across the Great Lakes or looking at the land routes though Ohio will keep you busy for awhile. The 1861 split from Virginia to form West Virginia also an interesting period. I would rather use software and historical information outside of RM to gather this info. Jinny Angelis > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:39:09 -0300 > From: mfseeker@gmail.com > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Differing names for the same place > > Using GeoCodes and Notes will do just fine once you are looking at a > particular event in a given person's life. > > However, suppose you have an ancestor, Harlow Clark, who lived in > Morgantown, West Virginia in 1880. You want to research other ancestors > of the Clark and allied families, some of whom lived there prior to > 1863, when the town was in Virginia. It would be convenient if you could > do a place report that included all the relevant events, whether in > Virginia or West Virginia. > > I guess what I am asking is whether RM might be given an alternate place > facility comparable to its alternate name facility. RM would then be > able to link many alternate historical place names to the same modern > place name. > > I like to have historically accurate names associated with each event > where possible. I am currently researching German ancestors, and, as Jon > notes, they are notoriously fluid. GeoCoding or modern naming will > locate places unambiguously, but they do not enable us to easily produce > historically accurate reports. > > Stan > > Jon Czarowitz wrote: > > You can put the older name in notes and use the modern geocode if there is > > one. > > For others use the "AKA" with older name. > > In some of the EU countries and others as well the places changed names > > with the officials in office. > > Post Offices did too and may have been located on the county which changed > > too with the move. > > Just indicate what the name was and RM will accept it. The note is for the > > reader not RM. > > *** > > Jon > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Stan Armstrong<mfseeker@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Is there a way to tell RM that two different names refer to the same > >> place during different historical periods? > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This only applies to the United States, but I use AniMap (www.goldbug.com), which is a historical county boundary mapping program. I can plot a town and go to the date that I want and then see where the county lines are to identify which county the town is in. I also prefer to be historically correct with my place names.

Guess the question is, do we want the history or an easy way to currently visit the place? From: Robert Starkey Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:25 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Differing names for the same place Like Stan, I, too, would prefer to use historically accurate names associated with each event and am disappointed to have to compromise in this respect. Leamington, Leamington Priors, Leamington Spa and Royal Leamington Spa are all valid names for the same place at different times in history. Rob. Stan Armstrong wrote: >I guess what I am asking is whether RM might be given an alternate place >facility comparable to its alternate name facility. RM would then be >able to link many alternate historical place names to the same modern >place name. >I like to have historically accurate names associated with each event >where possible. =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5058 - Release Date: 06/09/12

I have taken a slightly different approach. I use the name at the time of event and put the new name in parens with the word was or now. Examples: Angers Abbey, Angers, Maine-et-Loire (was Anjou), France Constinople (now Istanbul), Turkey Elizabethtown (now Rahway), Union County, New Jersey Hockessin, New Castle County (was Chester County, PA), Delaware As with most things in life, there are multiple ways to do anything, so this is just another method. I like it because it shows were the records originally were kept, which in many cases remain today. > > I have several locations where I want the historical name also. I have put > "(historical)" in the name field. You could also enter the dates by the > (historical 1729 -1768) or whaterver the date ranges are. For these > locations , I go to the internet and look up the location and use the > wikipedia entry and copy it to the notes. Looks to me like this would > word great for the Leamington situation. There already ways help trace the > migration patterns for particular area/times etc so I would not be > interested in some report that showed a breakout in the manner you are > asking for in West Virginia / Virginia. I have counties in NY which > changed names back and forth a couple times. I don't want to see all the > entries then as it would just probably muddy the brain even more! > Learning about migration patterns in general seems to be of more use > overall, up the Hudson, out the Erie Canal, across the Great Lakes or > looking at the land routes though Ohio will keep you busy for awhil! > e. The 1861 split from Virginia to form West Virginia also an interesting > period. I would rather use software and historical information outside of > RM to gather this info. > > Jinny Angelis > > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:39:09 -0300 >> From: mfseeker@gmail.com >> To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] Differing names for the same place >> >> Using GeoCodes and Notes will do just fine once you are looking at a >> particular event in a given person's life. >> >> However, suppose you have an ancestor, Harlow Clark, who lived in >> Morgantown, West Virginia in 1880. You want to research other ancestors >> of the Clark and allied families, some of whom lived there prior to >> 1863, when the town was in Virginia. It would be convenient if you could >> do a place report that included all the relevant events, whether in >> Virginia or West Virginia. >> >> I guess what I am asking is whether RM might be given an alternate place >> facility comparable to its alternate name facility. RM would then be >> able to link many alternate historical place names to the same modern >> place name. >> >> I like to have historically accurate names associated with each event >> where possible. I am currently researching German ancestors, and, as Jon >> notes, they are notoriously fluid. GeoCoding or modern naming will >> locate places unambiguously, but they do not enable us to easily produce >> historically accurate reports. >> >> Stan >> >> Jon Czarowitz wrote: >> > You can put the older name in notes and use the modern geocode if there >> > is >> > one. >> > For others use the "AKA" with older name. >> > In some of the EU countries and others as well the places changed names >> > with the officials in office. >> > Post Offices did too and may have been located on the county which >> > changed >> > too with the move. >> > Just indicate what the name was and RM will accept it. The note is for >> > the >> > reader not RM. >> > *** >> > Jon >> > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Stan Armstrong<mfseeker@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> >> Is there a way to tell RM that two different names refer to the same >> >> place during different historical periods? >> >> >> >> >> >> =================================== >> >> RM list Archives: >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> without >> >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Stan and Robert I have one suggestion. Try the new county check. Enter the name of the location and the county and state with USA and have County Check active. See what you get. It has not proven its full potential yet. Some have found city locations not available, but still worth a try. Jon *** On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Robert Starkey <robertstarkey@talktalk.net>wrote: > Like Stan, I, too, would prefer to use historically accurate names > associated with each event and am disappointed to have to compromise in > this > respect. > > > > Leamington, Leamington Priors, Leamington Spa and Royal Leamington Spa are > all valid names for the same place at different times in history. > > > > Rob. > > > > Stan Armstrong wrote: > > >I guess what I am asking is whether RM might be given an alternate place > > >facility comparable to its alternate name facility. RM would then be > > >able to link many alternate historical place names to the same modern > > >place name. > > >I like to have historically accurate names associated with each event > > >where possible. > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Using GeoCodes and Notes will do just fine once you are looking at a particular event in a given person's life. However, suppose you have an ancestor, Harlow Clark, who lived in Morgantown, West Virginia in 1880. You want to research other ancestors of the Clark and allied families, some of whom lived there prior to 1863, when the town was in Virginia. It would be convenient if you could do a place report that included all the relevant events, whether in Virginia or West Virginia. I guess what I am asking is whether RM might be given an alternate place facility comparable to its alternate name facility. RM would then be able to link many alternate historical place names to the same modern place name. I like to have historically accurate names associated with each event where possible. I am currently researching German ancestors, and, as Jon notes, they are notoriously fluid. GeoCoding or modern naming will locate places unambiguously, but they do not enable us to easily produce historically accurate reports. Stan Jon Czarowitz wrote: > You can put the older name in notes and use the modern geocode if there is > one. > For others use the "AKA" with older name. > In some of the EU countries and others as well the places changed names > with the officials in office. > Post Offices did too and may have been located on the county which changed > too with the move. > Just indicate what the name was and RM will accept it. The note is for the > reader not RM. > *** > Jon > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Stan Armstrong<mfseeker@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Is there a way to tell RM that two different names refer to the same >> place during different historical periods? >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >

Is there a way to tell RM that two different names refer to the same place during different historical periods?

You can put the older name in notes and use the modern geocode if there is one. For others use the "AKA" with older name. In some of the EU countries and others as well the places changed names with the officials in office. Post Offices did too and may have been located on the county which changed too with the move. Just indicate what the name was and RM will accept it. The note is for the reader not RM. *** Jon On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Stan Armstrong <mfseeker@gmail.com> wrote: > Is there a way to tell RM that two different names refer to the same > place during different historical periods? > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

The only list RM works with is modern names. If you put in a different name RM will accept it, but can't automatically geocode it. Also the county check will tell you it is not a valid name maybe. I still use them though. Jon *** On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Stan Armstrong <mfseeker@gmail.com> wrote: > Is there a way to tell RM that two different names refer to the same > place during different historical periods? > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Can you give an example of what you mean? On Jun 8, 2012 9:25 AM, "Stan Armstrong" <mfseeker@gmail.com> wrote: > Is there a way to tell RM that two different names refer to the same > place during different historical periods? > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks. I found that when printing reports but I want the list reversed just looking at the list. I rarely print reports. I use the program as a database where I can see what I have. That's why I switched to rootsmagic. I didn't have to too deep into a person to see all the information I have on them. Before legacy I had PAF and everything was in notes, in chronological order. Lisa On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Genbits <genbits@charter.net> wrote: > Yes you can reverse the place list. The first check box on the place list, > right after you create the report. REVERSE PLACE NAMES. > > > Nettie's Genbits > Annette DeCourcy Towler > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes you can reverse the place list. The first check box on the place list, right after you create the report. REVERSE PLACE NAMES. Nettie's Genbits Annette DeCourcy Towler

Hi Gina, Thanks for your comments. I was thinking of trying the parents-family report to see what I can see before going back and unsharing. I will try that. I also don't like how the place name list is only in alpha order by city, county, etc. I used Legacy before and I had an option to have the list be in the "reverse" order. I create all my sources by location. To me location is the most important thing. Lisa On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Gina Gualco <rgualco@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Lisa, > > Don't give up on the Research Notes report just yet. I think it will show > > you some shared facts. I've just started using RootsMagic myself, and I > am also experimenting with the Research Notes report. > > > I always run it for a family, not for an individual, and I've observed > that the > report will show a shared fact on the parents' report if the child is the > > sharer and the parent is the sharee, but, if I run a report for the child > and their spouse, it does not show shared facts where the parent is the > sharer and the child the sharee. (Also, note that the family version of the > report includes the births of children.) > > > Gina > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >