Go to Webinars http://rootsmagic.com/webinars/ lots of items for RM5 could watch no. 33 or 37. -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Jones Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:15 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] On This Day I recently upgraded to RM5. While reading the back of the CD cover it refers to a new feature of 'On This Day', can anyone tell me where to find this. Many thanks Lynne =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Reports > Lists > On This Day List FL Rose Sent from my Netbook ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Jones" <lynne_mike@tiscali.co.uk> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: [RMagic] On This Day >I recently upgraded to RM5. While reading the back of the CD cover it > refers to a new feature of 'On This Day', can anyone tell me where to find > this. > Many thanks > > Lynne > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I read all the comments that have arrived. I don't think it really belongs in a Misc fact although you could customize the sentences to your satisfaction. I have a "Court" fact that must have come on some imported gedcom a long time ago. I don't recall using it, but it would have more use than just a crime. There might be name changes that are done through the courts or some other type of civil suit also. Jinny Angelis > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:35:21 -0700 > From: mabeldin@gmail.com > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RMagic] Fact template for arrest and Court appearance? > > Okay, aside from using Miscellaneous, has anyone created a Fact that would > cover a person getting arrested for a crime? > > My gr gr grandmother was arrested for having 3 dozen bottles of lager in > her home in 1888. While I am not proud of this (although it does make me > chuckle), I have prayed and prayed for one of my ancestors to have > committed some sort of crime (albeit a minor one) so that I could find at > least SOMETHING on them. I have those kind of ancestors who seemed to have > been born, married and died in a void, or that big black hole in the sky. > So when I found a newspaper article naming my grandmother and a neighbor as > each having 3 dozen bottles of beer in their house, I have to say I was > somewhat excited. > > I have the newspaper article and plan to go to the courthouse to try and > find the court records. But my problem is, how would I enter this fact in > RootsMagic? > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Margie in Washington State > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have a custom fact "Court Record." I have families with Preachers in them, but they are also the ones who have Court Records. Particularly after the Civil War (War Between the States) in Texas. Betty -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. A. Beldin Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:35 PM To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Fact template for arrest and Court appearance? Okay, aside from using Miscellaneous, has anyone created a Fact that would cover a person getting arrested for a crime? My gr gr grandmother was arrested for having 3 dozen bottles of lager in her home in 1888. While I am not proud of this (although it does make me chuckle), I have prayed and prayed for one of my ancestors to have committed some sort of crime (albeit a minor one) so that I could find at least SOMETHING on them. I have those kind of ancestors who seemed to have been born, married and died in a void, or that big black hole in the sky. So when I found a newspaper article naming my grandmother and a neighbor as each having 3 dozen bottles of beer in their house, I have to say I was somewhat excited. I have the newspaper article and plan to go to the courthouse to try and find the court records. But my problem is, how would I enter this fact in RootsMagic? Any suggestions? Thanks Margie in Washington State =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
David Have you tried 'printmychart' which still seems to exist in my RM program data Regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David E. Cann Sent: 29 August 2012 01:26 To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts Jon, Yes, in a great many cases we do have pics, although many (not all) of the earlier ones are grave markers. My g-grandfather was a ship captain for example, and in his case we have pictures not only of him but a few of his ships. . .but no grave marker. He was cremated in 1934 and his ashes scattered at sea. My grandson doesn't start school until next Tuesday, but the little guy has been interested in the genealogy all summer while he stayed with us during the day. He asked if we could let him take some of this to school, so I would just like to give it to him, so that is the reason we are talking about some printouts and charts that might be appropriate for him to be able to take and explain to other kids. I had originally thought about a pedigree chart, but now we're looking at others as well. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jon Czarowitz Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:05 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts David Have you got pictures of your ancestors? Makes a great teaching tool. Especially if they are in the dress of their time. Even cousins and other relatives are interesting. Try maps from their time with pictures of the old house you once lived in. This with trips to cemeteries can enhance. Jon -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have a Newspaper fact for puting stuff from newspapers and then I transcribe the article into it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. A. Beldin" <mabeldin@gmail.com> To: "ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com" <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: [RMagic] Fact template for arrest and Court appearance? Okay, aside from using Miscellaneous, has anyone created a Fact that would cover a person getting arrested for a crime? My gr gr grandmother was arrested for having 3 dozen bottles of lager in her home in 1888. While I am not proud of this (although it does make me chuckle), I have prayed and prayed for one of my ancestors to have committed some sort of crime (albeit a minor one) so that I could find at least SOMETHING on them. I have those kind of ancestors who seemed to have been born, married and died in a void, or that big black hole in the sky. So when I found a newspaper article naming my grandmother and a neighbor as each having 3 dozen bottles of beer in their house, I have to say I was somewhat excited. I have the newspaper article and plan to go to the courthouse to try and find the court records. But my problem is, how would I enter this fact in RootsMagic? Any suggestions? Thanks Margie in Washington State
The one I encountered was still living, and for reasons of maintaining family peace (I was working with a close family member at the time and it was not my family) I just put it into: MISC Research note The note reads just as the online records showed except for here I have used dots to obscure the surnames . . . . , ANTHONY M. Records 1 to 2 of 2 * Anthony M . . . . , 54, Mentor, & Ralph . . . , 56, Willoughby, sentenced to prison for stealing more than $500,000 from Eaton Corp Plain Dealer 20 Dec, 1994, pg. 2 sec. B * Eaton Corp employees Anthony M . . . . , 54, & Ralph . . . , 56, have been charged with mail fraud for stealing up to $20,000 a month in insurance checks during the last five years Plain Dealer 25 May, 1994, pg. 3 sec. B Paul A. Studly, Esq. paulstudly@studly.net Cleveland/Chesterland, Ohio 440-829-9207 Verizon Cell IRS Circular 230 - Any tax advice contained in the body of this correspondence was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. A. Beldin Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:35 PM To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Fact template for arrest and Court appearance? Okay, aside from using Miscellaneous, has anyone created a Fact that would cover a person getting arrested for a crime? My gr gr grandmother was arrested for having 3 dozen bottles of lager in her home in 1888. While I am not proud of this (although it does make me chuckle), I have prayed and prayed for one of my ancestors to have committed some sort of crime (albeit a minor one) so that I could find at least SOMETHING on them. I have those kind of ancestors who seemed to have been born, married and died in a void, or that big black hole in the sky. So when I found a newspaper article naming my grandmother and a neighbor as each having 3 dozen bottles of beer in their house, I have to say I was somewhat excited. I have the newspaper article and plan to go to the courthouse to try and find the court records. But my problem is, how would I enter this fact in RootsMagic? Any suggestions? Thanks Margie in Washington State =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>> I had my computer go down and wipe out one winters work. I did have it on paper for the most part. I don't have the gumpsion to type it back in. << You might look into Omni-Page software by Nuance Software This is OCR (Optical Character Recognition) software Basically you scan the pages in say PDF format and the PDF file is interacted with Omni-Page software and the output is a standard MS Word file format. Accuracy is pretty good and if the spell checker aspect is turned on errors, if any, will be highlighted. Beats hell out of re-typing. A lawyer would send me a brief, I wanted to use part, so I would OCR the document and thereafter block & copy as I chose. Presently version 18, you might find an earlier version on eBay for less. I have version 16. Lots of scanners even ship with some kind of OCR software. http://shop.nuance.com/store/nuanceus/html/pbPage.seasonal-deals/ThemeID.205 45600/OfferID.22716247509?resid=UD4SbAoBAlkAAHI2ARwAAAAx&rests=1346245228282 On sale now for $99 >>With OmniPage Professional 18, the best just got even better. Better OCR speed, better accuracy, better performance. With new improvements and added functionality, OmniPage 18 is still the markets leading OCR and scanning solution and one that saves you time and money while increasing overall productivity. Requirements SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS Windows® 7 32-bit or 64-bit Editions, Windows Vista 32-bit or 64-bit Editions with Service Pack 2, Windows XP 32-bit Edition with Service Pack 3 A computer with a 1 GHz Intel® Pentium®, or higher, or equivalent processor. Multi-Core processor recommended for advanced performance 512 MB of memory (RAM), 1 GB recommended for advanced performance 250 MB of free hard disk space for the application files and sample images, plus 100 MB working space during installation. An additional 230 MB for RealSpeak® Solo speech modules. 150 MB for PDF Create and 500 MB for PaperPort. 30 MB for Nuance Cloud Connector 1024x768 pixel color monitor with 16-bit color or greater video card CD-ROM drive for installation WIA, TWAIN or ISIS scanner driver 2-megapixel digital camera with auto-focus or higher for digital camera text capture Web access required for online Activation, Registration, Live Update and Nuance Cloud Connectors Note: Performance and speed will be enhanced if your computers processor, memory, and available disk space exceed minimum requirements. This is especially true when converting very large color PDF files. Paul A. Studly, Esq. paulstudly@studly.net Cleveland/Chesterland, Ohio 440-829-9207 Verizon Cell IRS Circular 230 - Any tax advice contained in the body of this correspondence was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Ronnerud Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:19 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large pedigree charts HI: I had my computer go down and wipe out one winters work. I did have it on paper for the most part. I don't have the gumpsion to type it back in. Since then I paid for an off site back up program and an external hard to back things up. It was cheap when figuring the time and effort to redo it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:42 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large pedigree charts When my computer crashed, taking my 17000 + with it, my sister mentioned that I had made a pedigree "fan chart" for her son when he was a 4th grader for his school project! Darned if the lovely young man knew exactly where it was (he is 22 now) and presented it to her with pride. Luckily I found an old, old backup, so I am now only missing 3,000 peeps. Sis has ironed that thing out and retaped it. I think it was 12 or 13 generations. It did not go all the way back to our Viking ancestors. I liked to use that to show who needed more research. Kathy Parkinson -----Original Message----- From: David E. Cann Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:54 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Large pedigree charts Tom, Woops! Your are right, and I should have said PEDIGREE chart. That is what I get for asking this in a day such as this has been, but do you know of any means of printing a very large PEDIGREE CHART such as I described? Not many fourth graders have much need for descendancy charts. <eye roll> David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Holden Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:24 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts I wonder if an ancestry or pedigree chart would be better for his purpose, starting with him. Else he would need two descendant charts just to cover the two early colonists. Tom On 2012-08-27, at 4:35 PM, "David E. Cann" <decann@infionline.net> wrote: > We have a 9 year old grandson about to begin the 4th grade in a week, > and he is starting to ask questions and show an interest in our family > genealogy that Grandma & Grandpa always talk about. Between my wife > and I, he has 2 ancestors who arrived on the Mayflower, 1 an original > settle at Jamestown, 1 who arrived with William Penn on the ship > Welcome, numerous kings and queens from both of us, and a lot of other > neat stuff that he learns about in school. The little squirt really > seems interested, and now wants to take some information to school > with him, which leads me to my question that makes it on-topic for > this list. :-) > > Does RM5 print out a descendancy chart that can be pieced together > with tape showing 12 or 15 generations? Either that, or else perhaps > save it to CD and take it to Staples or somewhere else for printing on > a printer with a larger platen than ours with letter or legal sized > paper? We found a blank > "15 Generation Descendancy Chart" on a trip once, and my wife has > begun the long and tedious task of filling in all of the information > BY HAND, but it is sure a tedious and time consuming task, especially > when your hands and eyes are as old as ours are. Any ideas along this > line would be very helpful. > > I've been using RM and FO forever, but I've not done many descandency > charts that took more than a single sheet of paper before. Based on > his questions, the little guy has figured out the connection between > his ancestry and the history he learns in school, and we want to > encourage him to study this if he does have the interest. If anyone > can offer any suggestions on how to approach this, hopefully allowing > us to print out a very large descendency chart, I would love to hear > from you. > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
To Paul and the others who answered my query, thanks! Paul, thanks for giving me the letters WTCU. I had searched online to see if Massachusetts or Berkshire County was a dry county at the time of the "crime". But found no evidence that it was in the late 1800s. I did some other searching but found nothing. I have even written to the reference librarian in Pittsfield and they have searched but came up with nothing as well. However, the string "WCTU" searched in Google gave me lots of hits although I don't have time right now to read all of the articles. But I do know there was a temperance union in Pittsfield at this time because they are listed in the city directories. Good old city directories are always full of useful information. So, your suggestion may lead me to more definitive information. And, if I can ever find the court records (someone has mentioned that Massachusetts law does not require documents to be saved after 1600, so the records may have been destroyed), I may find out exactly what law she and her neighbor were breaking. Historically, my gr gr grandfather had died 10 years earlier. My gr gr grandmother was left with two children at home and a house but was an illiterate Irish woman who probably had few choices as to how to make a living. She was running a boarding house and may have been selling the alcohol to supplement her income. I may never know but at least I finally have some information on my gr gr grandmother other than her name and the fact she was Irish. Someday maybe I will know if she was desperate to keep a roof over her head or if she was just a bit rebellious. Either way, it will be "fun" to find more documents on her arrest and get to know her a little better. Thanks all, Margie in Washington State On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:10 AM, <rootsmagic-users-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:52:38 -0400 > From: "Paul Studly" <paulstudly@att.net> > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Fact template for arrest and Court appearance? > To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <3e6901cd85e5$2bdfe1b0$839fa510$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I might try > > 1888 > MISC Newspaper mentions - illegal beer possession > > put the detail in the notes > > If you of a mind to explore further see what you can learn of the times > in > that place, > when-how-why voted dry etc; what was the WTCU doing in that locale > > > > Paul A. Studly, Esq. > paulstudly@studly.net > Cleveland/Chesterland, Ohio > 440-829-9207 Verizon Cell > ? > IRS Circular 230 - Any tax advice contained in the body of this > correspondence was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, > by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed > under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law > provisions. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne Brayer > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:54 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Fact template for arrest and Court appearance? > > My first comment is that you need not be proud or not of the actions of > this > ancestor. We are not here to judge, but to record the facts of the person. > This type of information does give us a sense of the person, but remember > to > put it into context of the time period. What were the laws of the time and > location? Was she rebelling or trying to earn a living? > > Second: How to note this in RootsMagic. - The fact list does not give any > choice for this except Misc. Be sure to include the specific source and its > details. > > > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:35 PM, M. A. Beldin <mabeldin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Okay, aside from using Miscellaneous, has anyone created a Fact that > > would cover a person getting arrested for a crime? > > > > My gr gr grandmother was arrested for having 3 dozen bottles of lager > > in her home in 1888. While I am not proud of this (although it does > > make me chuckle), I have prayed and prayed for one of my ancestors to > > have committed some sort of crime (albeit a minor one) so that I could > > find at least SOMETHING on them. I have those kind of ancestors who > > seemed to have been born, married and died in a void, or that big black > hole in the sky. > > So when I found a newspaper article naming my grandmother and a > > neighbor as each having 3 dozen bottles of beer in their house, I have > > to say I was somewhat excited. > > > > I have the newspaper article and plan to go to the courthouse to try > > and find the court records. But my problem is, how would I enter this > > fact in RootsMagic? > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks > > Margie in Washington State > > > > > >
I might try 1888 MISC Newspaper mentions - illegal beer possession put the detail in the notes If you of a mind to explore further see what you can learn of the times in that place, when-how-why voted dry etc; what was the WTCU doing in that locale Paul A. Studly, Esq. paulstudly@studly.net Cleveland/Chesterland, Ohio 440-829-9207 Verizon Cell IRS Circular 230 - Any tax advice contained in the body of this correspondence was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne Brayer Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:54 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Fact template for arrest and Court appearance? My first comment is that you need not be proud or not of the actions of this ancestor. We are not here to judge, but to record the facts of the person. This type of information does give us a sense of the person, but remember to put it into context of the time period. What were the laws of the time and location? Was she rebelling or trying to earn a living? Second: How to note this in RootsMagic. - The fact list does not give any choice for this except Misc. Be sure to include the specific source and its details. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:35 PM, M. A. Beldin <mabeldin@gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, aside from using Miscellaneous, has anyone created a Fact that > would cover a person getting arrested for a crime? > > My gr gr grandmother was arrested for having 3 dozen bottles of lager > in her home in 1888. While I am not proud of this (although it does > make me chuckle), I have prayed and prayed for one of my ancestors to > have committed some sort of crime (albeit a minor one) so that I could > find at least SOMETHING on them. I have those kind of ancestors who > seemed to have been born, married and died in a void, or that big black hole in the sky. > So when I found a newspaper article naming my grandmother and a > neighbor as each having 3 dozen bottles of beer in their house, I have > to say I was somewhat excited. > > I have the newspaper article and plan to go to the courthouse to try > and find the court records. But my problem is, how would I enter this > fact in RootsMagic? > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Margie in Washington State > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The only reason to create a Crime or other custom fact is if you wanted to search for all persons having that fact type. Otherwise, just use the Miscellaneous fact and customize the sentence for that person to read the way you want. Tom
My first comment is that you need not be proud or not of the actions of this ancestor. We are not here to judge, but to record the facts of the person. This type of information does give us a sense of the person, but remember to put it into context of the time period. What were the laws of the time and location? Was she rebelling or trying to earn a living? Second: How to note this in RootsMagic. - The fact list does not give any choice for this except Misc. Be sure to include the specific source and its details. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:35 PM, M. A. Beldin <mabeldin@gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, aside from using Miscellaneous, has anyone created a Fact that would > cover a person getting arrested for a crime? > > My gr gr grandmother was arrested for having 3 dozen bottles of lager in > her home in 1888. While I am not proud of this (although it does make me > chuckle), I have prayed and prayed for one of my ancestors to have > committed some sort of crime (albeit a minor one) so that I could find at > least SOMETHING on them. I have those kind of ancestors who seemed to have > been born, married and died in a void, or that big black hole in the sky. > So when I found a newspaper article naming my grandmother and a neighbor as > each having 3 dozen bottles of beer in their house, I have to say I was > somewhat excited. > > I have the newspaper article and plan to go to the courthouse to try and > find the court records. But my problem is, how would I enter this fact in > RootsMagic? > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Margie in Washington State > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Okay, aside from using Miscellaneous, has anyone created a Fact that would cover a person getting arrested for a crime? My gr gr grandmother was arrested for having 3 dozen bottles of lager in her home in 1888. While I am not proud of this (although it does make me chuckle), I have prayed and prayed for one of my ancestors to have committed some sort of crime (albeit a minor one) so that I could find at least SOMETHING on them. I have those kind of ancestors who seemed to have been born, married and died in a void, or that big black hole in the sky. So when I found a newspaper article naming my grandmother and a neighbor as each having 3 dozen bottles of beer in their house, I have to say I was somewhat excited. I have the newspaper article and plan to go to the courthouse to try and find the court records. But my problem is, how would I enter this fact in RootsMagic? Any suggestions? Thanks Margie in Washington State
I've been holding off contributing to this discussion because I'm afraid my comments are off-topic, but the discussion seems to be going that way. I agree about the photos. There's a company online where you can have a deck of cards made with photos on the front - 52 different photos, or 13 repeated 4 times. I think that would be a great learning tool. You could also make a match game using those cards or using photos of the ancestors and have him match the photos to stories, locations, spouses, etc. Lots of possibilities to keep your grandson's interest up and help him learn at the same time. Nancy. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Czarowitz <czarowitz@gmail.com> To: rootsmagic-users <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 28, 2012 8:10 pm Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts David Have you got pictures of your ancestors? Makes a great teaching tool. Especially if they are in the dress of their time. Even cousins and other relatives are interesting. Try maps from their time with pictures of the old house you once lived in. This with trips to cemeteries can enhance. Jon -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Jon, Yes, in a great many cases we do have pics, although many (not all) of the earlier ones are grave markers. My g-grandfather was a ship captain for example, and in his case we have pictures not only of him but a few of his ships. . .but no grave marker. He was cremated in 1934 and his ashes scattered at sea. My grandson doesn't start school until next Tuesday, but the little guy has been interested in the genealogy all summer while he stayed with us during the day. He asked if we could let him take some of this to school, so I would just like to give it to him, so that is the reason we are talking about some printouts and charts that might be appropriate for him to be able to take and explain to other kids. I had originally thought about a pedigree chart, but now we're looking at others as well. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jon Czarowitz Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:05 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts David Have you got pictures of your ancestors? Makes a great teaching tool. Especially if they are in the dress of their time. Even cousins and other relatives are interesting. Try maps from their time with pictures of the old house you once lived in. This with trips to cemeteries can enhance. Jon -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC
If you search Google using < SSCE5232.dll > you will find sites to download the needed file. as well as some explanation. Paul A. Studly, Esq. paulstudly@studly.net Cleveland/Chesterland, Ohio 440-829-9207 Verizon Cell IRS Circular 230 - Any tax advice contained in the body of this correspondence was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Hare Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:25 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] SSCE5232.dll is missing Thank you Alfred and Tom. I posted the question for a girlfriend who uses RM4, but is not extremely computer literate. I should have asked her how she is trying to open it (or WHY she is trying to open it.) I'll ask more questions. MANY thanks. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred" <adeller@santel.net> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] SSCE5232.dll is missing > How are you trying to open it? > > A GEDCOM file is a plain text file that you should be able to open with > WordPad or NotePad. > > Open the WordPad program first, the using it's File menu select OPEN, > navigate to the folder, it sounds like it is the C:\desktop, at the > bottom of the window, where is asks "Files of type", select all > documents. Navigate to your file, keyes.ged and double click on it or > highlight it and click on the open button displayed. > > You should see a text document, if so, you should be abble to write an > email and attach it there. > > If you really want to see what is in that file, create a new file in > RootsMagic and IMPORT the GEDCOM filr you just created. > > Alfred > ============= > > > Brenda Hare wrote: >> I want to send a GEDCOM , a partial one, from Rootsmagic >> >> I go to file >> click on export >> the box asks everyone or select from list >> I select from list >> desktop and name keyes.ged >> It shows on desktop but says it will not open because SSCE5232.dll is >> missing >> >> 1. Am I doing it wrong ? I would like to just be able to attach it to an >> email. >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Studly" <paulstudly@att.net> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] SSCE5232.dll is missing If you search Google using < SSCE5232.dll > you will find sites to download the needed file. as well as some explanation. Paul A. Studly, Esq. paulstudly@studly.net Cleveland/Chesterland, Ohio 440-829-9207 Verizon Cell IRS Circular 230 - Any tax advice contained in the body of this correspondence was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Hare Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:25 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] SSCE5232.dll is missing Thank you Alfred and Tom. I posted the question for a girlfriend who uses RM4, but is not extremely computer literate. I should have asked her how she is trying to open it (or WHY she is trying to open it.) I'll ask more questions. MANY thanks. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred" <adeller@santel.net> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] SSCE5232.dll is missing > How are you trying to open it? > > A GEDCOM file is a plain text file that you should be able to open with > WordPad or NotePad. > > Open the WordPad program first, the using it's File menu select OPEN, > navigate to the folder, it sounds like it is the C:\desktop, at the > bottom of the window, where is asks "Files of type", select all > documents. Navigate to your file, keyes.ged and double click on it or > highlight it and click on the open button displayed. > > You should see a text document, if so, you should be abble to write an > email and attach it there. > > If you really want to see what is in that file, create a new file in > RootsMagic and IMPORT the GEDCOM filr you just created. > > Alfred > ============= > > > Brenda Hare wrote: >> I want to send a GEDCOM , a partial one, from Rootsmagic >> >> I go to file >> click on export >> the box asks everyone or select from list >> I select from list >> desktop and name keyes.ged >> It shows on desktop but says it will not open because SSCE5232.dll is >> missing >> >> 1. Am I doing it wrong ? I would like to just be able to attach it to an >> email. >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
HI: I had my computer go down and wipe out one winters work. I did have it on paper for the most part. I don't have the gumpsion to type it back in. Since then I paid for an off site back up program and an external hard to back things up. It was cheap when figuring the time and effort to redo it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:42 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large pedigree charts When my computer crashed, taking my 17000 + with it, my sister mentioned that I had made a pedigree "fan chart" for her son when he was a 4th grader for his school project! Darned if the lovely young man knew exactly where it was (he is 22 now) and presented it to her with pride. Luckily I found an old, old backup, so I am now only missing 3,000 peeps. Sis has ironed that thing out and retaped it. I think it was 12 or 13 generations. It did not go all the way back to our Viking ancestors. I liked to use that to show who needed more research. Kathy Parkinson -----Original Message----- From: David E. Cann Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:54 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Large pedigree charts Tom, Woops! Your are right, and I should have said PEDIGREE chart. That is what I get for asking this in a day such as this has been, but do you know of any means of printing a very large PEDIGREE CHART such as I described? Not many fourth graders have much need for descendancy charts. <eye roll> David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Holden Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:24 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Large descendancy charts I wonder if an ancestry or pedigree chart would be better for his purpose, starting with him. Else he would need two descendant charts just to cover the two early colonists. Tom On 2012-08-27, at 4:35 PM, "David E. Cann" <decann@infionline.net> wrote: > We have a 9 year old grandson about to begin the 4th grade in a week, > and he is starting to ask questions and show an interest in our family > genealogy that Grandma & Grandpa always talk about. Between my wife > and I, he has 2 ancestors who arrived on the Mayflower, 1 an original > settle at Jamestown, 1 who arrived with William Penn on the ship > Welcome, numerous kings and queens from both of us, and a lot of other > neat stuff that he learns about in school. The little squirt really > seems interested, and now wants to take some information to school > with him, which leads me to my question that makes it on-topic for > this list. :-) > > Does RM5 print out a descendancy chart that can be pieced together > with tape showing 12 or 15 generations? Either that, or else perhaps > save it to CD and take it to Staples or somewhere else for printing on > a printer with a larger platen than ours with letter or legal sized > paper? We found a blank > "15 Generation Descendancy Chart" on a trip once, and my wife has > begun the long and tedious task of filling in all of the information > BY HAND, but it is sure a tedious and time consuming task, especially > when your hands and eyes are as old as ours are. Any ideas along this > line would be very helpful. > > I've been using RM and FO forever, but I've not done many descandency > charts that took more than a single sheet of paper before. Based on > his questions, the little guy has figured out the connection between > his ancestry and the history he learns in school, and we want to > encourage him to study this if he does have the interest. If anyone > can offer any suggestions on how to approach this, hopefully allowing > us to print out a very large descendency chart, I would love to hear from you. > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
David Have you got pictures of your ancestors? Makes a great teaching tool. Especially if they are in the dress of their time. Even cousins and other relatives are interesting. Try maps from their time with pictures of the old house you once lived in. This with trips to cemeteries can enhance. Jon -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!
Thank you Alfred and Tom. I posted the question for a girlfriend who uses RM4, but is not extremely computer literate. I should have asked her how she is trying to open it (or WHY she is trying to open it.) I'll ask more questions. MANY thanks. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred" <adeller@santel.net> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] SSCE5232.dll is missing > How are you trying to open it? > > A GEDCOM file is a plain text file that you should be able to open with > WordPad or NotePad. > > Open the WordPad program first, the using it's File menu select OPEN, > navigate to the folder, it sounds like it is the C:\desktop, at the > bottom of the window, where is asks "Files of type", select all > documents. Navigate to your file, keyes.ged and double click on it or > highlight it and click on the open button displayed. > > You should see a text document, if so, you should be abble to write an > email and attach it there. > > If you really want to see what is in that file, create a new file in > RootsMagic and IMPORT the GEDCOM filr you just created. > > Alfred > ============= > > > Brenda Hare wrote: >> I want to send a GEDCOM , a partial one, from Rootsmagic >> >> I go to file >> click on export >> the box asks everyone or select from list >> I select from list >> desktop and name keyes.ged >> It shows on desktop but says it will not open because SSCE5232.dll is >> missing >> >> 1. Am I doing it wrong ? I would like to just be able to attach it to an >> email. >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message