LO 3.6, just downloaded today. But don't take my word for it. Make an FGS or probably any report with indexes and endnotes (don't know about footnotes) and see for yourself. If your findings are different, that's worth knowing about. I'm not optimistic that there is any real alternative to Word - maybe Apple Write or whatever it's called, but that's a whole other ball game. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Jon Czarowitz Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 4:06 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet Tom Were you using Libreoffikced 3.5 or 3.6, the new one? Jon *** On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > Some enthusiasm has been shown here for LibreOffice Writer as an > alternative. I reaffirm that it is not. Indexes and hyperlinks from > superscripts to end notes are screwed up. There are also some table > formatting issues - I haven't tested more than one FGS with no photo so > there may be other issues with it.

I use MS Word 2010 and have a complete display from the same RTF that Betty gets only the first line. That RTF was generated from her database on my computer from RM 5.0.4.1. There are anomalies between RM Preview and what MS Word displays but no loss of data; my issues are the table format goes a bit wonky and portraits get cut off. Some enthusiasm has been shown here for LibreOffice Writer as an alternative. I reaffirm that it is not. Indexes and hyperlinks from superscripts to end notes are screwed up. There are also some table formatting issues - I haven't tested more than one FGS with no photo so there may be other issues with it. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Alfred Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:56 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet I think that MS Word must have recently changed their specifications for RTF files because I have no problem with Word 2000 either. SO, if you have problems with Word, what version of Word is it? Likewise, if you are posting that you have no problems with FGS displays, the name of the software and the Version. It isn't really RootsMagic's fault if Microsoft decided to "improve" things again. Alfred ============= P Summers-Smith wrote: > It seems to generate and open the RTF file fine for me. I am running > RM 5.0.4.1 and it opens in MSWord 2007 without any problems. > > Patricia > > > =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You don't change Windows File Associations with RM. You can from Windows Explorer, as I explained earlier today. Right-click on a file of the type you wish to associate with LibreOffice Writer, e.g., RTF and select Open With from the popup menu. Then, "Select default program" and "Browse" to where LibreOffice is installed (typ C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 3.6) and go open its "program" folder. Then select swriter.exe and click "Open". On the next "Open with" window, you should see the LibreOffice Writer icon already selected; if not, select it. Make sure to check the box "Always use the selected program to open this type of file" and "OK". From that point on, when RM saves RTF and automatically calls Windows to open it, Windows will open it with LO Writer. Now, is this a good thing? Nope! Indexes are screwed up. So LO Writer is not going to be satisfactory to anyone wanting indexes. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Betty Stokes Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:55 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet How do I change the file association with RM? That should fix it if I could get it into a Word format, then I could save it to rtf. I downloaded everything I could think of from the Micrsoft site. I've been getting along without it for a long time. I can just keep using the individual summary. It works for what I need it for. Betty -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Holden Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 1:41 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet http://www.libreoffice.org/ Should coexist just fine with Word. You may have to fiddle the File Associations to set which one you want to open specific document types. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Betty Stokes Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:16 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet Where do you get Libre Office Writer. How does it coexist with Microsoft Word? Betty =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom Were you using Libreoffikced 3.5 or 3.6, the new one? Jon *** On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > I use MS Word 2010 and have a complete display from the same RTF that Betty > gets only the first line. That RTF was generated from her database on my > computer from RM 5.0.4.1. There are anomalies between RM Preview and what > MS > Word displays but no loss of data; my issues are the table format goes a > bit > wonky and portraits get cut off. > > Some enthusiasm has been shown here for LibreOffice Writer as an > alternative. I reaffirm that it is not. Indexes and hyperlinks from > superscripts to end notes are screwed up. There are also some table > formatting issues - I haven't tested more than one FGS with no photo so > there may be other issues with it. > > cutoff **-*

Does the list even accept RTF? -----Original Message----- From: Betty Stokes Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:15 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet No problem generating a pdf. Just can't do it in rtf. I only need it to send to lists where they don't accept anything but text. Family Origins used to do it. Betty -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rodney Whale Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:43 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet Hello Everybody, Have I missed the point? My understanding is that people are having problems generating a Family Group Sheet, or am I mistaken? I ask because I find that by clicking on a person in the database, over 6000 people, then clicking on Reports and selecting Family Group Sheet, then clicking on Generate Report, I get a complete F.G.S. on the screen that I can print. Am I the lucky one? I am using the free version. Regards, Rod. =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was checking my cemeteries on people view using place detail as alpha. When I got to the oners in McKinney that should have been Pecan Grove Cemetery, it should 1405 W Louisiana which was a residence address. In checking the edit screen I found that every McKinney burials had that address, not the cemetery. Also the place detail view for all uses of McKinney had the same listing including cemeteries. I made the mistaker of deleting the unwanted details from the death place detail list. It removed the same ones from all place detail lists for that location. If anyone has had the same problem, can you tell when it started. I have gone back many backups and find the same thing. I am using XP with latest updates for RM 5. I can duplicate the problem. It is using the first name in the place detail list. Because of the detail deletion of the cemetery on that one place i have no cemetery for McKinney place detail location and a blank where the cemetery should be on the edit screen and people view. Thanks for your help. -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

http://www.libreoffice.org/ Should coexist just fine with Word. You may have to fiddle the File Associations to set which one you want to open specific document types. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Betty Stokes Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:16 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet Where do you get Libre Office Writer. How does it coexist with Microsoft Word? Betty

With MS Vista, I use the Windows Explorer, (or My computer if you want to call it that) and navigate to an RTF file, right click on it and click Properties. In the general section, third line down is : "Open with XXX" and the button for "Change". Click on that and choose the program you want to use to view the RTF files. If it isn't listed, you can Browse through all the Program Files folder to pick what you want. Alfred ================ Betty Stokes wrote: > How do I change the file association with RM? That should fix it if I could > get it into a Word format, then I could save it to rtf. > I downloaded everything I could think of from the Micrsoft site. I've been > getting along without it for a long time. I can just keep using the > individual summary. It works for what I need it for. > Betty >

Yes, you have, Ron! The point is that the RTF file saved from a perfectly satisfactory report as seen in the RM Report Viewer does not appear to be complete in some instances of Microsoft Word, which should be the benchmark for RTF compliance since Microsoft invented RTF. Tom On 2012-10-05, at 1:42 PM, "Rodney Whale" <clargo@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > Have I missed the point? > > My understanding is that people are having problems generating a Family > Group Sheet, or am I mistaken? > > I ask because I find that by clicking on a person in the database, over 6000 > people, then clicking on Reports and selecting Family Group Sheet, then > clicking on Generate Report, I get a complete F.G.S. on the screen that I > can print. > > Am I the lucky one? I am using the free version. > > Regards, Rod. > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty sent me a database. I created a FGS RTF, PDF and a PDF from the RTF via Word 2010. All were complete. Sent her the RTF and all she sees is one line. She sent it back to me - it's complete so it survived the round trip without error. This seems to be an issue with Word, especially now that we see that LibreOffice Writer handles the RTF okay. Tom On 2012-10-05, at 1:29 PM, Jon Czarowitz <czarowitz@gmail.com> wrote: > I had done that. Still leaves off header, Tom. > Jon > *** > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A suggestion you could try: create a new database and drag one family to >> it. Then make a RTF from it and open with MS Word. Any improvement? If not, >> there's a small sample database to share with Tech Support. You could even >> send it to me for a quick response ;) >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> On 2012-10-04, at 11:07 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Verrry strange, indeed. I use Word from Office 2010. Just took a guess >> at LibreOffice Writer, based on my experience with the others. It's bizarre >> that you have the opposite result with the same version of Word. Mine is >> installed in Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium but the OS should not make any >> difference. I'm using RM 5.0.4.1. >>> >>> Maybe those of you having this problem with RTF in Word should submit a >> trouble ticket to Tech Support and attach your database to see if they can >> replicate the problem. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2012-10-04, at 10:10 PM, Don Strack <donstrack@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I just created an RTF from RM 5. Word from Office 2010 opened it as a >>>> garbled document. LibreOffice Writer opened and printed it just fine. >>>> >>>> Don Strack >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> The ONLY program that will almost correctly handle the RTF files saved >> from RootsMagic is Microsoft Word (unsure what the oldest version is that >> does), NOT WordPad, NOT WordPerfect, NOT Open Office's equivalent, and not >> likely Libre Office's equivalent. >>>>> >>>>> To cause the saved RTF file to automatically open in MS Word and not >> something else, you need to set the File Association for RTF to Always Open >> with MS Word. In Windows Explorer, find any RTF file, right click on it, >> select Open With and check the box once you select MS Word. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =================================== >>>> RM list Archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >>>> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com > CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think that MS Word must have recently changed their specifications for RTF files because I have no problem with Word 2000 either. SO, if you have problems with Word, what version of Word is it? Likewise, if you are posting that you have no problems with FGS displays, the name of the software and the Version. It isn't really RootsMagic's fault if Microsoft decided to "improve" things again. Alfred ============= P Summers-Smith wrote: > It seems to generate and open the RTF file fine for me. I am running > RM 5.0.4.1 and it opens in MSWord 2007 without any problems. > > Patricia > > >

How do I change the file association with RM? That should fix it if I could get it into a Word format, then I could save it to rtf. I downloaded everything I could think of from the Micrsoft site. I've been getting along without it for a long time. I can just keep using the individual summary. It works for what I need it for. Betty -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Holden Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 1:41 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet http://www.libreoffice.org/ Should coexist just fine with Word. You may have to fiddle the File Associations to set which one you want to open specific document types. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Betty Stokes Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:16 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet Where do you get Libre Office Writer. How does it coexist with Microsoft Word? Betty =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.libreoffice.org/ ok so far Jon On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Betty Stokes <betinhou@comcast.net> wrote: > Where do you get Libre Office Writer. How does it coexist with Microsoft > Word? > Betty > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Holden > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 1:06 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet > > Betty sent me a database. I created a FGS RTF, PDF and a PDF from the RTF > via Word 2010. All were complete. Sent her the RTF and all she sees is one > line. She sent it back to me - it's complete so it survived the round trip > without error. This seems to be an issue with Word, especially now that we > see that LibreOffice Writer handles the RTF okay. > > Tom > > On 2012-10-05, at 1:29 PM, Jon Czarowitz <czarowitz@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I had done that. Still leaves off header, Tom. > > Jon > > *** > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> A suggestion you could try: create a new database and drag one family > >> to it. Then make a RTF from it and open with MS Word. Any > >> improvement? If not, there's a small sample database to share with > >> Tech Support. You could even send it to me for a quick response ;) > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2012-10-04, at 11:07 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Verrry strange, indeed. I use Word from Office 2010. Just took a > >>> guess > >> at LibreOffice Writer, based on my experience with the others. It's > >> bizarre that you have the opposite result with the same version of > >> Word. Mine is installed in Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium but the OS > >> should not make any difference. I'm using RM 5.0.4.1. > >>> > >>> Maybe those of you having this problem with RTF in Word should > >>> submit a > >> trouble ticket to Tech Support and attach your database to see if > >> they can replicate the problem. > >>> > >>> Tom > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2012-10-04, at 10:10 PM, Don Strack <donstrack@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I just created an RTF from RM 5. Word from Office 2010 opened it as > >>>> a garbled document. LibreOffice Writer opened and printed it just > fine. > >>>> > >>>> Don Strack > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> The ONLY program that will almost correctly handle the RTF files > >>>>> saved > >> from RootsMagic is Microsoft Word (unsure what the oldest version is > >> that does), NOT WordPad, NOT WordPerfect, NOT Open Office's > >> equivalent, and not likely Libre Office's equivalent. > >>>>> > >>>>> To cause the saved RTF file to automatically open in MS Word and > >>>>> not > >> something else, you need to set the File Association for RTF to > >> Always Open with MS Word. In Windows Explorer, find any RTF file, > >> right click on it, select Open With and check the box once you select MS > Word. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> =================================== > >>>> RM list Archives: > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >>>> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> RM list Archives: > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > > International Genealogist for > > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > > RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - > > CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Another point. I just opened all problem filesd with Libreoffice that MS word messed up; I did not change anything except to open with Libreoffice. I'll go with thed LO for my rtf files. Jon *** On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, you have, Ron! The point is that the RTF file saved from a perfectly > satisfactory report as seen in the RM Report Viewer does not appear to be > complete in some instances of Microsoft Word, which should be the benchmark > for RTF compliance since Microsoft invented RTF. > > Tom > > On 2012-10-05, at 1:42 PM, "Rodney Whale" <clargo@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hello Everybody, > > > > Have I missed the point? > > > > My understanding is that people are having problems generating a Family > > Group Sheet, or am I mistaken? > > > > I ask because I find that by clicking on a person in the database, over > 6000 > > people, then clicking on Reports and selecting Family Group Sheet, then > > clicking on Generate Report, I get a complete F.G.S. on the screen that I > > can print. > > > > Am I the lucky one? I am using the free version. > > > > Regards, Rod. > > > > > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Where do you get Libre Office Writer. How does it coexist with Microsoft Word? Betty -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Holden Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 1:06 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet Betty sent me a database. I created a FGS RTF, PDF and a PDF from the RTF via Word 2010. All were complete. Sent her the RTF and all she sees is one line. She sent it back to me - it's complete so it survived the round trip without error. This seems to be an issue with Word, especially now that we see that LibreOffice Writer handles the RTF okay. Tom On 2012-10-05, at 1:29 PM, Jon Czarowitz <czarowitz@gmail.com> wrote: > I had done that. Still leaves off header, Tom. > Jon > *** > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A suggestion you could try: create a new database and drag one family >> to it. Then make a RTF from it and open with MS Word. Any >> improvement? If not, there's a small sample database to share with >> Tech Support. You could even send it to me for a quick response ;) >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> On 2012-10-04, at 11:07 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Verrry strange, indeed. I use Word from Office 2010. Just took a >>> guess >> at LibreOffice Writer, based on my experience with the others. It's >> bizarre that you have the opposite result with the same version of >> Word. Mine is installed in Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium but the OS >> should not make any difference. I'm using RM 5.0.4.1. >>> >>> Maybe those of you having this problem with RTF in Word should >>> submit a >> trouble ticket to Tech Support and attach your database to see if >> they can replicate the problem. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2012-10-04, at 10:10 PM, Don Strack <donstrack@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I just created an RTF from RM 5. Word from Office 2010 opened it as >>>> a garbled document. LibreOffice Writer opened and printed it just fine. >>>> >>>> Don Strack >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> The ONLY program that will almost correctly handle the RTF files >>>>> saved >> from RootsMagic is Microsoft Word (unsure what the oldest version is >> that does), NOT WordPad, NOT WordPerfect, NOT Open Office's >> equivalent, and not likely Libre Office's equivalent. >>>>> >>>>> To cause the saved RTF file to automatically open in MS Word and >>>>> not >> something else, you need to set the File Association for RTF to >> Always Open with MS Word. In Windows Explorer, find any RTF file, >> right click on it, select Open With and check the box once you select MS Word. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =================================== >>>> RM list Archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >>>> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - > CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No problem generating a pdf. Just can't do it in rtf. I only need it to send to lists where they don't accept anything but text. Family Origins used to do it. Betty -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rodney Whale Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:43 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Group Sheet Hello Everybody, Have I missed the point? My understanding is that people are having problems generating a Family Group Sheet, or am I mistaken? I ask because I find that by clicking on a person in the database, over 6000 people, then clicking on Reports and selecting Family Group Sheet, then clicking on Generate Report, I get a complete F.G.S. on the screen that I can print. Am I the lucky one? I am using the free version. Regards, Rod. =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try saving it for reuse in pdf form. Users wan ting to send it to others. Jon *** On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Rodney Whale <clargo@tinyworld.co.uk>wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > Have I missed the point? > > My understanding is that people are having problems generating a Family > Group Sheet, or am I mistaken? > > I ask because I find that by clicking on a person in the database, over > 6000 > people, then clicking on Reports and selecting Family Group Sheet, then > clicking on Generate Report, I get a complete F.G.S. on the screen that I > can print. > > Am I the lucky one? I am using the free version. > > Regards, Rod. > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

I had done that. Still leaves off header, Tom. Jon *** On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > A suggestion you could try: create a new database and drag one family to > it. Then make a RTF from it and open with MS Word. Any improvement? If not, > there's a small sample database to share with Tech Support. You could even > send it to me for a quick response ;) > > Tom > > > > On 2012-10-04, at 11:07 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Verrry strange, indeed. I use Word from Office 2010. Just took a guess > at LibreOffice Writer, based on my experience with the others. It's bizarre > that you have the opposite result with the same version of Word. Mine is > installed in Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium but the OS should not make any > difference. I'm using RM 5.0.4.1. > > > > Maybe those of you having this problem with RTF in Word should submit a > trouble ticket to Tech Support and attach your database to see if they can > replicate the problem. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > On 2012-10-04, at 10:10 PM, Don Strack <donstrack@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I just created an RTF from RM 5. Word from Office 2010 opened it as a > >> garbled document. LibreOffice Writer opened and printed it just fine. > >> > >> Don Strack > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> The ONLY program that will almost correctly handle the RTF files saved > from RootsMagic is Microsoft Word (unsure what the oldest version is that > does), NOT WordPad, NOT WordPerfect, NOT Open Office's equivalent, and not > likely Libre Office's equivalent. > >>> > >>> To cause the saved RTF file to automatically open in MS Word and not > something else, you need to set the File Association for RTF to Always Open > with MS Word. In Windows Explorer, find any RTF file, right click on it, > select Open With and check the box once you select MS Word. > >> > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Took awhile.but Libreoffice does a gtreat RTF read job. I had been told that maybe MS was going to no longer support RTF files. This is a great free sub for MS. Jon *** On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Don Strack <donstrack@gmail.com> wrote: > I just created an RTF from RM 5. Word from Office 2010 opened it as a > garbled document. LibreOffice Writer opened and printed it just fine. > > Don Strack > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > > The ONLY program that will almost correctly handle the RTF files saved > from RootsMagic is Microsoft Word (unsure what the oldest version is that > does), NOT WordPad, NOT WordPerfect, NOT Open Office's equivalent, and not > likely Libre Office's equivalent. > > > > To cause the saved RTF file to automatically open in MS Word and not > something else, you need to set the File Association for RTF to Always Open > with MS Word. In Windows Explorer, find any RTF file, right click on it, > select Open With and check the box once you select MS Word. > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

It seems to generate and open the RTF file fine for me. I am running RM 5.0.4.1 and it opens in MSWord 2007 without any problems. Patricia