I have, and have had, a login for www.familysearch.org for years. Will RootsMagic5 connect to the Family Tree? Is the information on the Family Tree the same as new.FamilySearch.org? Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shanna Jones" <shannasjones@msn.com> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] FamilySearch > FamilySearch has a new program that soon will be replacing > new.familysearch.org. It is called Family Tree and it will be found at > www.familysearch.org. You should register for a free account there. You > will find all sorts of free images and indexed records at this site. I > can > send you an invite to the Family Tree access if you contact me off list, > member of the LDS Church or not, doesn't matter, it is a worldwide family > tree. > Shanna > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You will just have to turn County Check off until and unless it is improved. I think that's what most people do. I agree that County Check is a good idea, just a good idea that is very poorly implemented. In particular with respect to it being a good idea, it is date sensitive. That is, it checks the place you enter as compared to the date of the event. So it knows when various counties were first created. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Hare Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:28 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Place Database The CountyCheck sounds like an excellent idea, however I like to have the word "County" as part of the location, to help others avoid confusion when there is a town and a county that have the same name. For example, in Iowa, there is a Des Moines (town) and a Des Moines (county). To make it even more confusing, Des Moines, the town, is *not* in Des Moines, the county. For someone who would enter Des Moines, Iowa, I would "assume" they would mean the town of Des Moines, which is in Polk County, Iowa.

Ludlow, that was the same answer I got from the helpline a over a year ago :( Apparently Non LDS members are a VERY low priority. Paul On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Ludlow Bay <ludlow.bay@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If you have a current account (user name/password) for: > > familysearch.org > indexing.familysearch.org > wiki.familysearch.org > > you are ALREADY REGISTERED for new.familysearch.org > > > The issue is that not all accounts in the first group have been authorized > for > new.familysearch.org > > Most, if not all church members are now authorized. User accounts for > non-church members are being authorized in small batches. YOU JUST HAVE > TO WAIT > YOUR TURN. There is nothing you can do to hasten your authorization. > > > The only feature in new.familysearch.org is the web application for > family trees > (encompassing data from Ancestral File, Pedigree Resource File, > International > Genealogical Index, etc. This application is currently known as > "NewFamilySearch" and is in final beta testing. Once released, it will > REPLACE > the current Trees (Family Tree) feature available at familysearch.org and > will > be called FamilySearch FamilyTrees. At that time, the website > new.familysearch.org will disappear. > > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Paul

Ron, So, if what you say is true, then how do we connect as well? Some time ago, Bruce said "RM is set up to do it, but FS has to set up their end to connect to it," or words to that effect. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Bernier Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:22 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search David, RM5 has been able to connect to New Fanily Search since the release of RM5. The issue is whether your log in to NFS will work or not. Some non LDS members are able to access the information andd others are bot (yet). More and more folks are gaining access almost daily. Ron Bernier Woonsocet, RI

Hi David, Have you tried calling them and explaining the issue? I think someone else said they had the same issue that you have. That person called them, to have the issue fixed right away. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Cann" <decann@infionline.net> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search > Brenda, > > I've tried NUMEROUS time, but without success, including just a few > minutes > ago. It appears the problem is the fact that I have a current account > with > "old" Family Search, but that log in is no good with "new" Family Search, > and the system will likewise not allow me to create an account with "new" > FS > because my valid email address, username, password and other information > are > already in use IN MY OLD FS account, so there is no way around it. Even > if > I did create a new username and password, I HOPE I don't have to get > another > email address just for that purpose. Very frustrating when Ron (see > below) > and others tell me that others CAN do it but I cannot. :-( > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > or "david.e.cann" on Skype > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Hare > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:06 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search > > https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/unsec/welcome > > As far as I know, this is the link to the nFS. Can you log in here? I'm > not LDS, so this is just my understanding of it, but I "think" if you can > log in here, then you should be able to connect to the database with RM4 > or > RM5. > > Brenda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David E. Cann" <decann@infionline.net> > To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search > > >> Ron, >> >> So, if what you say is true, then how do we connect as well? Some time >> ago, >> Bruce said "RM is set up to do it, but FS has to set up their end to >> connect >> to it," or words to that effect. >> >> >> David E. Cann >> decann@infionline.net >> or "david.e.cann" on Skype >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Bernier >> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:22 PM >> To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search >> >> David, >> >> RM5 has been able to connect to New Fanily Search since the release of >> RM5. >> The issue is whether your log in to NFS will work or not. Some non LDS >> members are able to access the information andd others are bot (yet). >> More >> and more folks are gaining access almost daily. >> >> Ron Bernier >> Woonsocet, RI > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shanna Jones: I don't believe that your invitation can be used to circumvent the "waiting list" of users whose accounts have not yet been migrated from familysearch.org (or indexing.familysearch.org or wiki.familysearch.org). In other words, if a non-member tries to use one of your invitations, he/she will get the same results as if trying to log in natively at new.familysearch.org Is that correct? > /From:/ Shanna Jones <shannasjones@msn.com <mailto:shannasjones@msn.com>> > /Subject:/ Re: [RMagic] FamilySearch > /Date:/ Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:57:22 -0600 > FamilySearch has a new program that soon will be replacing > new.familysearch.org. It is called Family Tree and it will be found at > www.familysearch.org. You should register for a free account there. You > will find all sorts of free images and indexed records at this site. I can > send you an invite to the Family Tree access if you contact me off list, > member of the LDS Church or not, doesn't matter, it is a worldwide family > tree. > Shanna

David, RM5 has been able to connect to New Fanily Search since the release of RM5. The issue is whether your log in to NFS will work or not. Some non LDS members are able to access the information andd others are bot (yet). More and more folks are gaining access almost daily. Ron Bernier Woonsocet, RI On Sunday, October 14, 2012, David E. Cann wrote: > Can RM5 now connect to Family Search directly from the RM interface yet, > Jon? I've not tried in awhile, but last I hear that feature in RM5 still > would not connect to Family Search until they (FS) set it up at their end. > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net <javascript:;> > or "david.e.cann" on Skype > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com <javascript:;> > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf > Of Jon Czarowitz > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:39 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com <javascript:;> > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search > > New Family Search requires a new registration. This new registration is > being required for both LDS and non-LDS members because the original did > not > separate the two parts. > Much is now added to th new FS and is available for those reregistered > non-LDS. > > Using RM in researching you can get death indexes and if signed in get a > photocopy of the original. Other things have been added, but I don't have > that list here. > > Hope this helps. > Jon > *** > -- Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI

David Cann: The login routine available from within RootsMagic by way of "File/Family Search Central" *IS* the login for new.familysearch.org - it says so right on the sign-in screen. It has NOTHING to do with "old" familysearch.org It is obvious that your account is not one that has been migrated from "old" familysearch.org to "new" new.familysearch.org And so you will wait. > /From:/ "David E. Cann" <decann@infionline.net <mailto:decann@infionline.net>> > /Subject:/ Re: [RMagic] Family Search > /Date:/ Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:09:36 -0400 > /References:/ <507B32D6.1030308@gmail.com> > /In-Reply-To:/ <507B32D6.1030308@gmail.com> > Ludlow Bay, > > As noted previously, I have already done that, and cannot connect to family > search from RM. I am looking for a way of doing it, but it appears there is > none, despite folks telling me here that there is. That is the problem, it > appears, we are "talking about apples and oranges." Your last line is > incorrect though, because I CANNOT connect to FS (old or new) using > "File/Family Search Central" but I can connect to "old" only using a > stand-alone URL. > > I have submitted another query to FS Support for whatever good it might do, > but I've been told for a year or two now to "be patient and wait," but I am > afraid that patience is not my most notable trait. > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net <mailto:decann@infionline.net> > or "david.e.cann" on Skype

https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/unsec/welcome As far as I know, this is the link to the nFS. Can you log in here? I'm not LDS, so this is just my understanding of it, but I "think" if you can log in here, then you should be able to connect to the database with RM4 or RM5. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Cann" <decann@infionline.net> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search > Ron, > > So, if what you say is true, then how do we connect as well? Some time > ago, > Bruce said "RM is set up to do it, but FS has to set up their end to > connect > to it," or words to that effect. > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > or "david.e.cann" on Skype > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Bernier > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:22 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search > > David, > > RM5 has been able to connect to New Fanily Search since the release of > RM5. > The issue is whether your log in to NFS will work or not. Some non LDS > members are able to access the information andd others are bot (yet). > More > and more folks are gaining access almost daily. > > Ron Bernier > Woonsocet, RI > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FamilySearch has a new program that soon will be replacing new.familysearch.org. It is called Family Tree and it will be found at www.familysearch.org. You should register for a free account there. You will find all sorts of free images and indexed records at this site. I can send you an invite to the Family Tree access if you contact me off list, member of the LDS Church or not, doesn't matter, it is a worldwide family tree. Shanna

Can RM5 now connect to Family Search directly from the RM interface yet, Jon? I've not tried in awhile, but last I hear that feature in RM5 still would not connect to Family Search until they (FS) set it up at their end. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jon Czarowitz Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:39 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search New Family Search requires a new registration. This new registration is being required for both LDS and non-LDS members because the original did not separate the two parts. Much is now added to th new FS and is available for those reregistered non-LDS. Using RM in researching you can get death indexes and if signed in get a photocopy of the original. Other things have been added, but I don't have that list here. Hope this helps. Jon ***

David Cann: although you have already been told that not all user accounts have been authorized for access to new.familysearch.org, you don't need RootsMagic to determine whether yours is one of them. Go directly to the new.familysearch.org website and fill in your user name and password in the boxes on the left, using your current, valid familysearch.org login credentials. If they work, great. If they don't, *you *have *not *yet *been *authorized. Whatever happens on the website is exactly the same experience you'll have from within RootsMagic. > /From:/ "David E. Cann" <decann@infionline.net <mailto:decann@infionline.net>> > /Subject:/ Re: [RMagic] Family Search > /References:/ > <CALLfTbpD9CDQWOEnAeX9qhqOM1En2zHV=CDeH+j9QGNahTW1WQ@mail.gmail.com> > <000e01cdaa2d$c8dd50d0$5a97f270$@net> > <7C959801FB164190A01C183C1883FF4A@toshiba> > <CAAd6FzwC-em-KAVN1m9JPp8mxf1Z8dCCd2VXLjjwZwhLn8-C6g@mail.gmail.com> > <001d01cdaa3d$b47cfef0$1d76fcd0$@net> > <CAOxLRwa5NzRfwM5MCv5DkMnrQPokrysZQzvJMSfJw0oG1vnRbA@mail.gmail.com> > <001e01cdaa44$9b8d28f0$d2a77ad0$@net><507B1CAE.6030403@bernfrin.net> > /In-Reply-To:/ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:29:14 -0400 > Ron, > > Okay, I just found what you are referring to, but it has nothing to do with > the connection from RM to "new" Family Search found at "File/Family Search > Central." Following the displayed prompts, mine will not recognize my valid > log-in for familysearch.org. :-( > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net <mailto:decann@infionline.net> > or "david.e.cann" on Skype

1) and 2) are the same. Attaching a source to a fact creates a citation-footnote-endnote so "Facts without Sources" is actually "Facts without Citations". 3) is a bit ambiguous because media can be tagged to the Fact and/or a Master Source and/or to a Citation. Whatever, I agree that there is no report or tool in RM to readily provide "Facts without Media", "Sources without Media" and "Citations without Media", let alone "Facts having Citations without having any media tagged to any of the Fact, its Citations or the latter's Master Sources". I would use SQLite queries to answer these questions. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Red Fenton Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:01 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Identifing missing source support data in the database The way I have entered by source data in my database results in the following rules. 1) for every fact there should be one or more sources. 2) for every Fact-Source combination there should be a citation. 3) for every Fact-Source-Citation combination there should be a media item attached. The missing sources from rule 1 are easily identified by "Facts without Sources" list. Does anyone have any ideas of how i could identify the missing data from rules 2 and 3? I know I could write a program to analyze the gedcom output from the database and identify the missing data, but I am hopeful of an easier solution. Red Fenton =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Those are many comments and questions, Brenda. I'll try to answer some of them. Places and Place Details have fields for the entry of Latitude and Longitude, but no direct interface to a GPS device. Whatever your source of geographical coordinates, you have to enter them manually. Beware that if you enter decimal coordinates that negative values are West of Greenwich. Having geo-coded your Places and Place Details enables more useful mapping (Tools > Mapping > People) and Place List report, notably the option "Print events near a place". There is no Mac version. Bruce and Renee have stated that it is a goal but has to await a specific development tool. That said, there are some who have sucessfully run RM on a Windows Virtual Machine on a Mac, using one of Wine, Parallels, VMware Fusion, et al. RootsMagic To Go, installs a portable version of RootsMagic on a drive (commonly a USB portable flash drive) that can run on any Windows PC without being installed on the PC. It also compares database files between the base and the portable 'home' folders and carries out transfers between them under user control. I should think that a Mac with USB port and a Windows Virtual Machine should be able to have RootsMagic To Go installed and run and also be able to run the RM portable version on a flash drive. I'm pretty sure desktop and notebook Macs have USB ports but perhaps not the MacAir. As for RM on Android, not yet. A RM reader app for iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch (i.e., any of the Apple iOS devices) is currently under beta test and has been promised for free release by Christmas (N.B. this is a read-only app, for now). I think we will have to wait and see how well RM installs or runs off the flash drive on Windows 8 tablets. I think the big issue will be the lack of mouse and keyboard and small screen size when working with an application that thrives on keyboard shortcuts and mouse interface and has very detailed screens. In my view, RM would need an extensive redesign to work well with a touch interface. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Hare Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:28 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Place Database The CountyCheck sounds like an excellent idea, however I like to have the word "County" as part of the location, to help others avoid confusion when there is a town and a county that have the same name. For example, in Iowa, there is a Des Moines (town) and a Des Moines (county). To make it even more confusing, Des Moines, the town, is *not* in Des Moines, the county. For someone who would enter Des Moines, Iowa, I would "assume" they would mean the town of Des Moines, which is in Polk County, Iowa. Other times, though, when I have seen information entered for other states, not being familiar with the other state, I would often "assume" that what is entered could be the county, not the town or the village. At best, it's an impossible guess. Someone asked me if I am using GPS with RootsMagic. Does RM have GPS coordinates that can be entered somewhere? How does that work? I am familiar with GPS and have GPS in the car, but did not know that RM has GPS capabilities. The other person may have meant geocoding rather than GPS, but she said GPS. Another question I have been asked is whether or not there is a Mac version of RootsMagic. If not, are there plans for a Mac version? While on this same thought, I have to admit that I have never used the "RootsMagic to Go". It's my understanding that this allows RM to run from a USB drive on any computer. Is my understanding correct? If so, could a Mac user run RM from a USB drive? (Do Macs even have USB drives? I'm guessing NOT?) I have been thinking about getting a little tablet of some sort. I have been looking at the Android tablets, wondering if "RootsMagic to Go" could be run on one of them, but I don't think they have USB drives... so I think I have answered my own question there. I did find one tablet that did have a USB drive (not Android) which led me to wonder if "RootsMagic to Go" could be run on one of the small tablets. Microsoft is coming out with a Windows 8 platform on November 27th, or so I have read. The estimated retail price is around $200, so I imagine it wouldn't have enough gusto to run "RootsMagic to Go" -- or would it? Next February there is to be another Windows 8 platform tablet coming out that sounds like it can actually load Windows programs and run actual programs, so I will probably hold off and see what the future brings. I am getting ready to do a seminar this coming Saturday on features of RootsMagic v5, so I am trying to get ready for questions that I don't currently use. Thanks to all help anyone / everyone might be able to give me. 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I'm not a member of LDS but have access to New.FamilySearch.org and to FamilySearch.org under a common user name, both of which access Family Tree, the latest interface, which I am able to edit. I registered for nFS a year or so ago and did not have access for some time. I do not use RM with either except occasionally WebSearch on the FamilySearch.org database. Tom -----Original Message----- From: David E. Cann Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:03 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search I am far from expert on this question, but I've asked this myself in the past. It is my understanding that RM5 is now set up to connect us "non-Mormons" (including this Presbyterian, I hope) but the current hold is at the Family Search end where they still need to set up things to receive such connections. Not long ago, I contacted Family Search about a different issue and asked a very helpful lady while I had her on the phone, and all she could tell me was that "we are working on it, but no estimate on time is available yet." Last I looked, information on their webpage said pretty much the same thing. I know this isn't much of an answer, but it's the best I can do. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Dobson Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:08 PM To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Family Search Any word when us non-Mormons in the rest of the world will be able to use Family Search Thank you Roy =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Using RM in researching you can get death indexes and if signed in get a > photocopy of the original. Other things have been added, but I don't have > that list here. Does this mean that if I had a sign in to the new Family Search and connect to the nFS with RM5, I could somehow "see" the images, if they are there? Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Czarowitz" <czarowitz@gmail.com> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] Family Search > New Family Search requires a new registration. This new registration is > being required for both LDS and non-LDS members because the original did > not separate the two parts. > Much is now added to th new FS and is available for those reregistered > non-LDS. > > Using RM in researching you can get death indexes and if signed in get a > photocopy of the original. Other things have been added, but I don't have > that list here. > > Hope this helps. > Jon > *** > > > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com > CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tom, Thank you for responding to my questions. Actually on tablet that I looked at (cannot remember which one because I looked at about 2 dozen different brands and models) had an add on keyboard that had a USB connection for a mouse, if you were so inclined to have a keyboard and mouse. It was a tiny keyboard, but still a keyboard. This was not an Android O/S, but I cannot remember what it was. That was the only brand and model that had a keyboard that could be purchased as an add on device. I often would like to have something available, just read only, just so I can verify a birth date / death date, etc. When traveling, I try to print out everything that I think I might ever want to know on the trip, and put into a notebook. I also do carry my laptop with me, but hate to take it into some libraries, and especially court houses, when I'm there to search, not look through a lot of books. Once in a while I will see a name and wonder if it's one of my ancestors / relatives, but I don't know the exact time period my person might have been there, so I'm never sure if it could be mine or just someone else with the same name. This is a good time to have some sort of tablet with my info in it. I do thank you for responding. It will help me a lot in case I get asked questions this Saturday about Macs and features that I really don't use (yet). I realize I'm not going to be able to answer all questions, but I can at least give some help. Brenda

New Family Search requires a new registration. This new registration is being required for both LDS and non-LDS members because the original did not separate the two parts. Much is now added to th new FS and is available for those reregistered non-LDS. Using RM in researching you can get death indexes and if signed in get a photocopy of the original. Other things have been added, but I don't have that list here. Hope this helps. Jon *** -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 4 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

If you have a current account (user name/password) for: familysearch.org indexing.familysearch.org wiki.familysearch.org you are ALREADY REGISTERED for new.familysearch.org The issue is that not all accounts in the first group have been authorized for new.familysearch.org Most, if not all church members are now authorized. User accounts for non-church members are being authorized in small batches. YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT YOUR TURN. There is nothing you can do to hasten your authorization. The only feature in new.familysearch.org is the web application for family trees (encompassing data from Ancestral File, Pedigree Resource File, International Genealogical Index, etc. This application is currently known as "NewFamilySearch" and is in final beta testing. Once released, it will REPLACE the current Trees (Family Tree) feature available at familysearch.org and will be called FamilySearch FamilyTrees. At that time, the website new.familysearch.org will disappear.

I am far from expert on this question, but I've asked this myself in the past. It is my understanding that RM5 is now set up to connect us "non-Mormons" (including this Presbyterian, I hope) but the current hold is at the Family Search end where they still need to set up things to receive such connections. Not long ago, I contacted Family Search about a different issue and asked a very helpful lady while I had her on the phone, and all she could tell me was that "we are working on it, but no estimate on time is available yet." Last I looked, information on their webpage said pretty much the same thing. I know this isn't much of an answer, but it's the best I can do. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Dobson Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:08 PM To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Family Search Any word when us non-Mormons in the rest of the world will be able to use Family Search Thank you Roy