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Then there is the problem that Legacy outputs incorrect code for Cause of Death, causing other programs to import it as either Description for the death event or as a Note. We can't win Hugh. On Nov 24, 2012 10:19 AM, "J. Hugh Sullivan" <sull1927@bellsouth.net> wrote: > For several years I used both FO/RM and Legacy. I could switch from one to > the other because files export/gedcom between programs with no changes (I > thought). Then I noticed a problem. > > Legacy allows me to record a source for name. RM sources a name for print > purposes but exports to Legacy as an unassigned source. Suddenly I found > myself having to move the unassigned source in Legacy to the name in > several > thousand instances individually. So I quit using RM at RM4 and have not > upgraded since. I'm surprised that RM does not allow sourcing of name that > will export as name source. > > Does the newest version of RM assign a source for name that will export to > Legacy as name or does it still export to unassigned source? > > Hugh > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

RM6 exports a citation that appears in the Person row of its Edit Person table at the same GEDCOM level as Name or any Event. Therefore it is not a Name citation but a citation for the Individual. For example: 0 @I252@ INDI 1 NAME Elizabeth Emily /Holden/ ... 1 SOUR @S1@ 1 REFN Groves261 ... There is no way to enter a citation for the Name, only for the Indi. You can add citations to Alternate Names. On import, citations against the primary Name are stored in the database against the Name but are not outputted to reports. They might, though, be re-exported to GEDCOM. You could verify that by bouncing a GEDCOM from Legacy to the free RM6 Essentials and back. I would recommend you explore for yourself. It might be possible with a scripting language with multiline regular expression search and replace capability to batch revise a GEDCOM so that such INDI citations become NAME citations. In fact, it might lend itself readily to a BASIC script. It's simply a matter of finding every "1 SOUR" line within a body of lines beginning "0 @I", changing the "1 SOUR" to "2 SOUR" and relocating them between the 1 NAME and the next line beginning with 1. I encountered the disappearance of Name citations on importing from Ancestry and Family Tree Maker and have reported that as a "bug". Using SQLite, I converted them to Person citations in the RM database. The reverse should also be possible so, if RM exports its hidden Name citations, one could maintain this particular GEDCOM compatibility in both directions by flipping between Person and Name citations within the RM database, using these complementary SQLite queries. Tom -----Original Message----- From: J. Hugh Sullivan Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:17 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] ROOTSMAGIC-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 341 For several years I used both FO/RM and Legacy. I could switch from one to the other because files export/gedcom between programs with no changes (I thought). Then I noticed a problem. Legacy allows me to record a source for name. RM sources a name for print purposes but exports to Legacy as an unassigned source. Suddenly I found myself having to move the unassigned source in Legacy to the name in several thousand instances individually. So I quit using RM at RM4 and have not upgraded since. I'm surprised that RM does not allow sourcing of name that will export as name source. Does the newest version of RM assign a source for name that will export to Legacy as name or does it still export to unassigned source? Hugh =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The short answer is that citations entered in RootsMagic6 attached to the Person field end up in Legacy 7.5 attached to the Unspecified rather than Name field. I know because I just tried it. Why that happens I do not understand (or care to understand;-) The other problem you will have is that if you use source templates in either program (other than Free-Form in RootsMagic and Basic in Legacy), the citations will be garbled when transferred to the other program. I've found no loss of data, i.e. the citation elements transfer, but the citation "sentence" will print in a different sequence than one would hope for because of the limitations of GEDCOM. Connie

On 24/11/12 01:57, Alfred wrote: > There may be 45 people with some linkage to one or more of the 6 places > containing 'peterculter' > Indeed, there *are*. That's my point - why aren't they listed in the 'search everywhere'? I forgot to mention that the 'Mary Massie' that came up had 6 facts on her record - all of them had 'peterculter' as the place. Why only one listing, of the research n0te detail? It looks to me that the 'search everywhere' doesn't search personal fact places. > Alfred > ===== > > David Massie wrote: >> I just tried 'Search Everywhere', and I think it's buggy. Or I'm >> misunderstanding it badly. >> >> Looking up a newspaper report of an 'A Massie, of Peterculter' I use >> 'peterculter' as the single search key, and get the following results: >> >> People: >> 1) a note with Peterculter in the text >> 2) a Mary Massie, with residence note detail of peterculter. >> 3) Death note with peterculter in it. >> >> Families: >> 1) A note with Peterculter in it. >> >> Sources: >> 3 texts with peterculter in them >> >> Citations: >> Hundreds of citations, as there should be - because there are >> *hundreds* of facts with these citations. Where are they? >> >> PLACES: >> >> 6 variants on the place (West Peterculter etc), >> >> Using RM explorer, and looking for any fact place = 'peterculter' >> produces 45 individuals. So the 'search everywhere' seems to have >> missed 42 of them. Anyone else get this? >> > -- Regards Dave

For several years I used both FO/RM and Legacy. I could switch from one to the other because files export/gedcom between programs with no changes (I thought). Then I noticed a problem. Legacy allows me to record a source for name. RM sources a name for print purposes but exports to Legacy as an unassigned source. Suddenly I found myself having to move the unassigned source in Legacy to the name in several thousand instances individually. So I quit using RM at RM4 and have not upgraded since. I'm surprised that RM does not allow sourcing of name that will export as name source. Does the newest version of RM assign a source for name that will export to Legacy as name or does it still export to unassigned source? Hugh

I just tried 'Search Everywhere', and I think it's buggy. Or I'm misunderstanding it badly. Looking up a newspaper report of an 'A Massie, of Peterculter' I use 'peterculter' as the single search key, and get the following results: People: 1) a note with Peterculter in the text 2) a Mary Massie, with residence note detail of peterculter. 3) Death note with peterculter in it. Families: 1) A note with Peterculter in it. Sources: 3 texts with peterculter in them Citations: Hundreds of citations, as there should be - because there are *hundreds* of facts with these citations. Where are they? PLACES: 6 variants on the place (West Peterculter etc), Using RM explorer, and looking for any fact place = 'peterculter' produces 45 individuals. So the 'search everywhere' seems to have missed 42 of them. Anyone else get this? -- Regards Dave

Tom Thank you for this info. It works a treat. I normally "play" with all the options and forgot this one Richard in UK and just updated to 6.0.0.2 From: "Tom Holden" <ve3meo@gmail.com> > To select the spelling dictionary, you > -open the Notes Editor on a note, > -(right-click or Tools > spellcheck) or F7, > -Options > -Language tab > -check English (UK) to add it in.

There may be 45 people with some linkage to one or more of the 6 places containing 'peterculter' Alfred ===== David Massie wrote: > I just tried 'Search Everywhere', and I think it's buggy. Or I'm > misunderstanding it badly. > > Looking up a newspaper report of an 'A Massie, of Peterculter' I use > 'peterculter' as the single search key, and get the following results: > > People: > 1) a note with Peterculter in the text > 2) a Mary Massie, with residence note detail of peterculter. > 3) Death note with peterculter in it. > > Families: > 1) A note with Peterculter in it. > > Sources: > 3 texts with peterculter in them > > Citations: > Hundreds of citations, as there should be - because there are *hundreds* > of facts with these citations. Where are they? > > PLACES: > > 6 variants on the place (West Peterculter etc), > > Using RM explorer, and looking for any fact place = 'peterculter' > produces 45 individuals. So the 'search everywhere' seems to have missed > 42 of them. Anyone else get this? > >

This is in no way a problem, just something that struck me as odd after all these years of using The RootsMagician's magnificent toys. I am referring to the place name database that installs with RM if you let it do so. I have just completed upgrading to RM 6 (and subsequently 6.0.0.2) in our three machines, two Dell desktops and a Dell laptop, all three of which run on Windows 7 if that matters with anything. All three upgrades worked without difficulty, but in one of the desktops it also installed (or at least it said it did) the Family Atlas place name database. Does that mean my wife has been running without it all of this time, or else an older copy of it? I try to keep all three of them current, but I suppose it is possible that I overlooked it at some point in the one machine. As I said, it is no big deal at this point, but it struck me as rather odd. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype

Greetings It may be worth asking RM in US what the difference is and who wrote the 'UK version'. (( I would have thought that Bruce or the webmaster would have commented by now - or perhaps I am not getting any of this thread of emails I will have to check if put in junk or spam folder. )) Just for the record I can do all those bullet point things * but see %%% and $$$ ref spelling. Perhaps someone can help me on that. In the version I bought from US You can set dates in any format you want so our way is an option - I use it (Tools prog options general) %%% There is an English dictionary ( where ? I know it exists . I wonder if I did not select when installing ? Is it the .adm file. can I access it from RM6 now ? ) . and you can set up your own dictionary as well. $$$ I must admit I have just done a spell check and it did not recognise programme or colour (you can add in yourself as OK ) It underlines things it does not recognise as you type in if you set as (Tools prog options general) I do not know what is meant by UK sources. You add sources yourself. eg 1841 census or birth cert etc. and can also select from a list when you add new and if UK slightly different, then they are available eg census UK. is available in my (US) version as a source BUT I make my own as well. It is easy. It is easy to go to any web site without going through RM and some UK are included also in RM. You do what you want to do in any case. Ancestry and fmp and WVR give same results wherever you live .co and .com are basically the same. I use either. When you click websearch in RM you can select a source from list or put own in. You will get a result or many results but not see details. eg I just clicked on web search for my grandfather and selected Ancestry click on Census and narrow in to UK 1911 and I get his name and birth year and residence (and many more similar) BUT unless you are subscriber you cannot see the original. (If you subscribe (as I do to all 3 ) The only difference is that you pay more to include US censuses etc in the world subscription (but you can get a lot free also)) Support from US via RMlist or contact direct Therefore works OK in UK (except spell ?) Richard UK Any more advice needed we are only too pleased to help wherever you bought from. > Thanks for all the opinions on the UK vs US version. > > I've now also asked the UK distributor what the points of difference > are, and they say that the UK-specific features include: > * UK spellcheck > * UK date formats > * UK sources > * links to UK websites in the WebSearch tab > They also offer free technical support. > > At the time of writing, I think I'm now inclined to go for the UK > version - though knowing me, I might change my mind a few more times... > > Arthur > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To select the spelling dictionary, you -open the Notes Editor on a note, -(right-click or Tools > spellcheck) or F7, -Options -Language tab -check English (UK) to add it in. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Web Croker Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:22 PM To: kengen@paxnet.co.uk ; rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Upgrading RM5 (UK) to RM6 %%% There is an English dictionary ( where ? I know it exists . I wonder if I did not select when installing ? Is it the .adm file. can I access it from RM6 now ? ) . and you can set up your own dictionary as well. $$$ I must admit I have just done a spell check and it did not recognise programme or colour (you can add in yourself as OK ) It underlines things it does not recognise as you type in if you set as (Tools prog options general)

I believe that UK spellcheck and date formats are inherent in the downloadable version. They are settings you choose and change to suit the way you want to work. I don't know what is meant by UK sources; there are some source templates for UK sources in the standard version. As for links to UK websites, you can add whatever ones you want; that said, the results from a .co.uk website may be no different from those from its sister .com website, if it has one, e.g., Ancestry and FindMyPast. Tom On 2012-11-22, at 12:19 PM, Arthur & Pauline Kennedy <kengen@paxnet.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks for all the opinions on the UK vs US version. > > I've now also asked the UK distributor what the points of difference > are, and they say that the UK-specific features include: > * UK spellcheck > * UK date formats > * UK sources > * links to UK websites in the WebSearch tab > They also offer free technical support. > > At the time of writing, I think I'm now inclined to go for the UK > version - though knowing me, I might change my mind a few more times... > > Arthur > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for all the opinions on the UK vs US version. I've now also asked the UK distributor what the points of difference are, and they say that the UK-specific features include: * UK spellcheck * UK date formats * UK sources * links to UK websites in the WebSearch tab They also offer free technical support. At the time of writing, I think I'm now inclined to go for the UK version - though knowing me, I might change my mind a few more times... Arthur

Thanks Bruce, You are correct that the folder's name was changed from the original name where it was installed. The original folder name was \RootsMagic 4\. After I upgraded to Version 5, I renamed the folder \RootsMagic 5\. I reinstalled RM5 into \RootsMagic\ and all is well now. Thanks, George At 20 11 2012 08:33 AM Tuesday, RootsMagic wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >The program thinks you are in To-Go mode because the copy of RM you >are running is not in the same folder you installed it in. When you >install RM, the installer keeps track of the folder that the program >was installed in (all installers do this). If you later hand move the >files to a different folder, or change the name of your program >folder, or for some other reason a different version of RootsMagic >than the one you installed, RM will think it is running in To-Go mode. > >- Bruce >http://www.rootsmagic.com > > >On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:47 PM, George W. Durman ><GermannaResearch@comcast.net> wrote: >> For some reason, when I try to check for updates to RM, I get this message: >> >> "You are running in To-Go mode. Update your desktop copy of Rootsmagic and then run RootsMagic To-Go to update this copy." >> >> I AM NOT running RM in the "To-Go" mode! Why does the program think I am doing so? >> >> How in Hades do I convince RM that I'm running the program from my desktop? >> >> I've searched all the FAQs and can find nothing to explain this problem. >> >> Any help appreciated. >> >> George W. Durman >> Sarge >> >> Germanna Database at Ancestry: >> http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/family >> >> My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna >> >> My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: >> http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >=================================== >RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Germanna Database at Ancestry: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/family My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Jon, RM6 is a new program. Updates are point releases of the existing 5.x, 6.x etc Regards, Andrew On 22 November 2012 10:46, Jon Czarowitz <czarowitz@gmail.com> wrote: > Is this a new program or update? The help keeps telling me I am using the > latest version of RM 5 and stops there. > The download requires a new passcode. > > -- > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 5 http://www.rootsmagic.com > CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Web: http://www.kempfamilyhistory.com Email: kemp.andrew@gmail.com

Jon, If you want a paid version of RM6 you will need to purchase RM6 from RootsMagic.com Once purchased, you will have a key which you can then install in the RM6 download version which will convert this from the Essentials free version to a full version. Regards, Andrew On 22 November 2012 10:19, Jon Czarowitz <czarowitz@gmail.com> wrote: > I downloaded RM 6 and installed, but did not replace RM 5. RM 6 wantsd my > user name and passcode and will not accept RM 5 code. > How do I get it installed with paid version ? > > -- > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 5 http://www.rootsmagic.com > CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Web: http://www.kempfamilyhistory.com Email: kemp.andrew@gmail.com

It's okay now. The original was on my desktop computer where it would not accept the key. I did a fresh install on my laptop and was able to create an account at my.rootsmagic.com just fine. However, I won't be uploading data from the laptop. I'll be doing it from the desktop. Maybe I'll uninstall the original install on my desktop and reinstall there to make sure the registration is fine there too. Can someone tell me if there is also something I need to do other than uninstall and reinstall? Something with the registration on my desktop computer itself? Is there a better plan for ensuring everything is okay with computer registration on the desktop? Thanks, Patricia At 07:20 AM 11/22/2012, you wrote: >Yes, I do, and it's registered. In fact, I have two... Both registered. > >Patricia > > >On Nov 22, 2012, at 7:10 AM, "Genbits@charter.net" ><genbits@charter.net> wrote: > > > Have valid registration code? That is what software usually look for.... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of P Summers-Smith > > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 8:40 AM > > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [RMagic] "Key Not Valid for Creating User Account" > > > > After purchasing, downloading and installing RM6, and converting my data, I > > attempted to set up an account at my.rootsmagic.com to upload my > data later. > > However, when I submitted my desired username and password, I receive a > > popup window that says "Key not valid for creating user account". What am I > > doing wrong? > > > > Patricia > >

Have valid registration code? That is what software usually look for.... -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of P Summers-Smith Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 8:40 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] "Key Not Valid for Creating User Account" After purchasing, downloading and installing RM6, and converting my data, I attempted to set up an account at my.rootsmagic.com to upload my data later. However, when I submitted my desired username and password, I receive a popup window that says "Key not valid for creating user account". What am I doing wrong? Patricia =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"If folks have put off upgrading, Ithink it is definitely worth the $20 upgrade price." It's the most important element of your genealogy organization, preparation, and presentation, and probably the least expensive! Bruce's RootsMagic is the epitome of great software. Dick On 21 Nov 2012 at 18:07, Betty Stokes wrote: > I saw the Webinar on Tuesday night for the new version of Roots Magic. There > are definitely new features and fixes. If folks have put off upgrading, I > think it is definitely worth the $20 upgrade price. > > > > Betty > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message