It must be tagged to the Person, in addition to any fact or whatever, and that Person tag must be set as Primary. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wem Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:00 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Photo display I am unable to display a jpeg photograph of my g daughter on a RM window with her other details near the top of the screen even though I can get to it from the edit screen. I am using RM6. I still have RM5 installed. Using restore from my RM5 backup file with RM5 activated shows same result. Suggestions or other advice welcomed. TIA Jim Wem =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have FTM 2012 and I can import an RM gedcom into it with out any trouble. I think FTM 2011 worked ok as well. I haven't used any version of FTM before that. Kim On 12/06/2012 07:04 PM, David E. Cann wrote: > Huh? You're kidding. Somehow, based on my own minimal knowledge of FTM I > am not surprised, but is there any sort of a "workaround" or will it work in > a newer version of FTM or are they all "mathematically challenged" along > with 2009? > >

Huh? You're kidding. Somehow, based on my own minimal knowledge of FTM I am not surprised, but is there any sort of a "workaround" or will it work in a newer version of FTM or are they all "mathematically challenged" along with 2009? Add that as ANOTHER reason I've been using FO and/or RM so long, but I better not go there. :-( David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RootsMagic Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 6:54 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Is RM6 GEDCOM too old? No, it means FTM doesn't know that 5.5.1 is newer than 5.5. FTM just checks for 5.5 and assumes anything different is older. - Bruce http://www.rootsmagic.com On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:45 PM, David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> wrote: > I have created a GEDCOM using RM6, but when we attempt to import it > into FTM > 2009 it results in a dialogue saying it will not import a GEDCOM that > is not version 5.5 or higher. Does this mean RM6 is creating GEDCOMs > too old to be imported into commonly-used software? Is there any way > of creating on in a higher version of GEDCOM than whatever it creates > now? I hope the RootsMagician or one of his folks is out there this > evening, because I have no difficulty seeing this work into a real problem. Please help. > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > or "david.e.cann" on Skype

I have created a GEDCOM using RM6, but when we attempt to import it into FTM 2009 it results in a dialogue saying it will not import a GEDCOM that is not version 5.5 or higher. Does this mean RM6 is creating GEDCOMs too old to be imported into commonly-used software? Is there any way of creating on in a higher version of GEDCOM than whatever it creates now? I hope the RootsMagician or one of his folks is out there this evening, because I have no difficulty seeing this work into a real problem. Please help. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype

You could edit the GEDCOM and change the line near the beginning from 5.5.1 to 5.5 and resave the GEDCOM. Then FTM will think it is new enough. ;-) - Bruce http://www.rootsmagic.com On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:04 PM, David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> wrote: > Huh? You're kidding. Somehow, based on my own minimal knowledge of FTM I > am not surprised, but is there any sort of a "workaround" or will it work in > a newer version of FTM or are they all "mathematically challenged" along > with 2009? > > Add that as ANOTHER reason I've been using FO and/or RM so long, but I > better not go there. :-( > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > or "david.e.cann" on Skype > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RootsMagic > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 6:54 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Is RM6 GEDCOM too old? > > No, it means FTM doesn't know that 5.5.1 is newer than 5.5. FTM just checks > for 5.5 and assumes anything different is older. > > - Bruce > http://www.rootsmagic.com > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:45 PM, David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> wrote: >> I have created a GEDCOM using RM6, but when we attempt to import it >> into FTM >> 2009 it results in a dialogue saying it will not import a GEDCOM that >> is not version 5.5 or higher. Does this mean RM6 is creating GEDCOMs >> too old to be imported into commonly-used software? Is there any way >> of creating on in a higher version of GEDCOM than whatever it creates >> now? I hope the RootsMagician or one of his folks is out there this >> evening, because I have no difficulty seeing this work into a real > problem. Please help. >> >> >> David E. Cann >> decann@infionline.net >> or "david.e.cann" on Skype > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, it means FTM doesn't know that 5.5.1 is newer than 5.5. FTM just checks for 5.5 and assumes anything different is older. - Bruce http://www.rootsmagic.com On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:45 PM, David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> wrote: > I have created a GEDCOM using RM6, but when we attempt to import it into FTM > 2009 it results in a dialogue saying it will not import a GEDCOM that is not > version 5.5 or higher. Does this mean RM6 is creating GEDCOMs too old to be > imported into commonly-used software? Is there any way of creating on in a > higher version of GEDCOM than whatever it creates now? I hope the > RootsMagician or one of his folks is out there this evening, because I have > no difficulty seeing this work into a real problem. Please help. > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > or "david.e.cann" on Skype > > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any fact can have its sentence customised at the individual without changing the default or master sentence so I'm guessing your main concern is the label displayed on Individual Summary and Family Group Sheet. Then maybe it makes sense to create a custom fact so that the fact name is more meaningful than Miscellaneous and more appropriate than Adoption. Maybe "Orphaned" for the children. Since the guardian family was unrelated, will they even be persons in the database? The Orphaned fact can be shared with a person not in the database or you can simply incorporate their names in the Description so they come out in the Summary and FGS. Tom -----Original Message----- From: David E. Cann Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 11:20 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Legal guardian fact? Tom, I first tried the Adoption fact, but there was no obvious way to modify that so that it didn't look like a. . .well, an adoption. I'm now tinkering with Miscellaneous to see what I can do with that, but this is the first time I've ever run across 200 year old guardianship documents so I want to see this come out right. The parents died, and an unrelated family legally agreed to look after the six children. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Holden Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:47 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Legal guardian fact? I guess you could use Miscellaneous and customise the sentence at each instance of the fact. For each ward you could use the date range covering the period from the start of guardianship to the date the ward reached the age of majority. The sentence could read something like [person] was under the guardianship of Joe Blow [Date]. For the legal guardian, the end date could be the date of release of the youngest ward and the sentence could be [person] acted as the legal guardian of the children of so and so [Date]. You might try a shared fact but I'm not sure which way to go on this. If the guardian is the principal role, then only the start date is common to all the wards. If the ward is principal, and each ward gets his own fact and shares it with the guardian, then the guardian ends up with multiple shared facts but the date ranges work. Perhaps the first makes sense and add an individual fact to each ward that has to do with what he did when he came out from under guardianship. Tom -----Original Message----- From: David E. Cann Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:01 PM To: RootsMagic Users List Posting Subject: [RMagic] Legal guardian fact? As long as I have been using this software I never thought I would be saying this, but how do I enter a legal guardian for someone? I have never run into this before. The guardian did not adopt them (6 siblings), so adoption doesn't appear to be the right choice of fact, but what is? I am thinking about using the generic "Miscellaneous" fact, but I don't really care for that, either. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom, I first tried the Adoption fact, but there was no obvious way to modify that so that it didn't look like a. . .well, an adoption. I'm now tinkering with Miscellaneous to see what I can do with that, but this is the first time I've ever run across 200 year old guardianship documents so I want to see this come out right. The parents died, and an unrelated family legally agreed to look after the six children. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Holden Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:47 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Legal guardian fact? I guess you could use Miscellaneous and customise the sentence at each instance of the fact. For each ward you could use the date range covering the period from the start of guardianship to the date the ward reached the age of majority. The sentence could read something like [person] was under the guardianship of Joe Blow [Date]. For the legal guardian, the end date could be the date of release of the youngest ward and the sentence could be [person] acted as the legal guardian of the children of so and so [Date]. You might try a shared fact but I'm not sure which way to go on this. If the guardian is the principal role, then only the start date is common to all the wards. If the ward is principal, and each ward gets his own fact and shares it with the guardian, then the guardian ends up with multiple shared facts but the date ranges work. Perhaps the first makes sense and add an individual fact to each ward that has to do with what he did when he came out from under guardianship. Tom -----Original Message----- From: David E. Cann Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:01 PM To: RootsMagic Users List Posting Subject: [RMagic] Legal guardian fact? As long as I have been using this software I never thought I would be saying this, but how do I enter a legal guardian for someone? I have never run into this before. The guardian did not adopt them (6 siblings), so adoption doesn't appear to be the right choice of fact, but what is? I am thinking about using the generic "Miscellaneous" fact, but I don't really care for that, either. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype

I guess you could use Miscellaneous and customise the sentence at each instance of the fact. For each ward you could use the date range covering the period from the start of guardianship to the date the ward reached the age of majority. The sentence could read something like [person] was under the guardianship of Joe Blow [Date]. For the legal guardian, the end date could be the date of release of the youngest ward and the sentence could be [person] acted as the legal guardian of the children of so and so [Date]. You might try a shared fact but I'm not sure which way to go on this. If the guardian is the principal role, then only the start date is common to all the wards. If the ward is principal, and each ward gets his own fact and shares it with the guardian, then the guardian ends up with multiple shared facts but the date ranges work. Perhaps the first makes sense and add an individual fact to each ward that has to do with what he did when he came out from under guardianship. Tom -----Original Message----- From: David E. Cann Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:01 PM To: RootsMagic Users List Posting Subject: [RMagic] Legal guardian fact? As long as I have been using this software I never thought I would be saying this, but how do I enter a legal guardian for someone? I have never run into this before. The guardian did not adopt them (6 siblings), so adoption doesn't appear to be the right choice of fact, but what is? I am thinking about using the generic "Miscellaneous" fact, but I don't really care for that, either. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm sorry Yvonne, I didn't know they were currently charging for something I read was in Beta testing. Nothing I've read online so far had suggested that. I assumed that when it came OUT of beta testing they would likely have a fee of some kind or a lower free vr more optioned paid version. Since I still haven't received a download link or code of any kind I haven't tried it out yet. But from what I've read online, and I can't say how accurate this is, that what they are trying to do is have the program read the fact RM creates and convert it directly into the format another program creates with out mangling the data in anyway. And then if you made changes in another program, it would convert that directly back into RM format. Also to be able to update your online trees from one file. They also want to offer a way for people to share a database in a group so everyone can work on it at the same time. It sounds interesting to me, although I don't think I would use this with anything but a backup copy of my data. Kim On 12/05/2012 09:17 PM, Yvonne Scott wrote: > I thought AncestorSync was free because I did not see a price on their > website. After I downloaded the program they sent me an email with a link to > confirm my email address. After clicking the link I saw they wanted me to > pay $35/yr. So I emailed them and told them I was deleting the program and > would not pay since there is nothing about $35/yr on their website. I told > them I'd be glad to be a beta testor and they sent me the code to put in. > They said it would enable me to test the software for 3 months. > > They recommend you use a copy of your database for testing and said: > "AncestorSync will work with RootsMagic 4 and 5 and we are in the process of > updating it to work with RootsMagic 6 files. If you are using RootsMagic 6 > already, please check back with us in about 3 weeks to see if we have it > ready for testing with RM 6. You do not need to register or add the code > until you are ready to test. The three months will start when you > register." > > Yvonne Scott >

That's an important point, Bruce. Is there any cooperation between AncestorSync and yourself? Tom -----Original Message----- From: RootsMagic Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:22 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? If another (non-RootsMagic) program writes into your RM database and corrupts it, we (RootsMagic) will not be responsible for recovering lost data. - Bruce http://www.rootsmagic.com On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Yvonne Scott <scottlass@triad.rr.com> wrote: > I thought AncestorSync was free because I did not see a price on their > website. After I downloaded the program they sent me an email with a link > to > confirm my email address. After clicking the link I saw they wanted me to > pay $35/yr. So I emailed them and told them I was deleting the program and > would not pay since there is nothing about $35/yr on their website. I told > them I'd be glad to be a beta testor and they sent me the code to put in. > They said it would enable me to test the software for 3 months. > > They recommend you use a copy of your database for testing and said: > "AncestorSync will work with RootsMagic 4 and 5 and we are in the process > of > updating it to work with RootsMagic 6 files. If you are using RootsMagic > 6 > already, please check back with us in about 3 weeks to see if we have it > ready for testing with RM 6. You do not need to register or add the code > until you are ready to test. The three months will start when you > register." > > Yvonne Scott > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Holden" <ve3meo@gmail.com> > To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? > > >> Of the $15/yr, I am not aware for AncestorSync. I saw that for >> SharingTime. >> But as I have received no confirmation from AncestorSync, perhaps my >> submission of the online form somehow failed. >> > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry for not reply sooner. I applied to be a beta tester as well. I haven't received a tester code yet. But the same day I applied I sent their support an email. I was interested in if they would soon support RM 6 and if it handled the shared facts. Their reply was that they are working on supporting RM 6 and hope to have that done in about 3 weeks. AncestorSync does not yet support RM shared facts, but this is something they are going to work on. They said they would send me a tester code, but I have not received it yet. They also suggested that as this is in testing to use a copy of your file and not your master database. Of course! :) I'm looking forward to trying this out. It would be nice to have a way to keep my files in multiple genealogy programs up to date. However the largest benefit to me would be if they were able to get something that properly converted shared facts to individual facts. Although, I'm still hoping for this as a native RM feature. :-D Kim On 12/05/2012 08:27 PM, Tom Holden wrote: > Of the $15/yr, I am not aware for AncestorSync. I saw that for SharingTime. > But as I have received no confirmation from AncestorSync, perhaps my > submission of the online form somehow failed. > > Tom >

I thought AncestorSync was free because I did not see a price on their website. After I downloaded the program they sent me an email with a link to confirm my email address. After clicking the link I saw they wanted me to pay $35/yr. So I emailed them and told them I was deleting the program and would not pay since there is nothing about $35/yr on their website. I told them I'd be glad to be a beta testor and they sent me the code to put in. They said it would enable me to test the software for 3 months. They recommend you use a copy of your database for testing and said: "AncestorSync will work with RootsMagic 4 and 5 and we are in the process of updating it to work with RootsMagic 6 files. If you are using RootsMagic 6 already, please check back with us in about 3 weeks to see if we have it ready for testing with RM 6. You do not need to register or add the code until you are ready to test. The three months will start when you register." Yvonne Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Holden" <ve3meo@gmail.com> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? > Of the $15/yr, I am not aware for AncestorSync. I saw that for > SharingTime. > But as I have received no confirmation from AncestorSync, perhaps my > submission of the online form somehow failed. >

As long as I have been using this software I never thought I would be saying this, but how do I enter a legal guardian for someone? I have never run into this before. The guardian did not adopt them (6 siblings), so adoption doesn't appear to be the right choice of fact, but what is? I am thinking about using the generic "Miscellaneous" fact, but I don't really care for that, either. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype

Of the $15/yr, I am not aware for AncestorSync. I saw that for SharingTime. But as I have received no confirmation from AncestorSync, perhaps my submission of the online form somehow failed. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Hare Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:24 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? Tom, By signing up for beta testing, do you mean you signed up for the $15 / year offer? Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Holden" <ve3meo@gmail.com> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? > Thanks for the tip, Kim. I find it really interesting that they work > directly on the database of the different softwares. I see that Geni.com > is in beta test but no sync yet with any other online tree. Interestingly, > the mailing address is shared by http://www.sharingtime.com which does > work with New Family Search but AncestorSync may be awaiting the > stabilization of Family Search Family Tree, just as RootsMagic is. > > I just signed up for beta testing... > > Tom > > > > On 2012-12-03, at 8:44 PM, Kim <kim.mills@wightman.ca> wrote: > >> I was wondering if anyone has used AncestorSync? >> http://ancestorsync.com/ I stumbled onto their website tonight after >> looking for ideas to sync databases. Their website seems to show that >> it can sync your RootsMagic database and convert it into other formats. >> I've also read on many genealogy blogs that it was allowing users to >> sync to Geni.com, new Family Search and a few others. >> >> Normally to update my Ancestry.com tree I export my RM gedcom then >> import and merge it into FTM 2012 and then sync it online. Something >> like this might make this process a bit simpler... Although it shows it >> works with FTM 2011, not 2012 yet. >> >> I'm curious if anyone using RM has tried this out? How did you find it >> handled converting facts, notes etc? Anyone tried it with shared facts? >> >> Kim >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We are not involved in the development of any other company's products (especially products that would modify the native RM data files). - Bruce http://www.rootsmagic.com On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > That's an important point, Bruce. Is there any cooperation between > AncestorSync and yourself? > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: RootsMagic > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:22 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? > > If another (non-RootsMagic) program writes into your RM database and > corrupts it, we (RootsMagic) will not be responsible for recovering > lost data. > > - Bruce > http://www.rootsmagic.com > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Yvonne Scott <scottlass@triad.rr.com> wrote: >> I thought AncestorSync was free because I did not see a price on their >> website. After I downloaded the program they sent me an email with a link >> to >> confirm my email address. After clicking the link I saw they wanted me to >> pay $35/yr. So I emailed them and told them I was deleting the program and >> would not pay since there is nothing about $35/yr on their website. I told >> them I'd be glad to be a beta testor and they sent me the code to put in. >> They said it would enable me to test the software for 3 months. >> >> They recommend you use a copy of your database for testing and said: >> "AncestorSync will work with RootsMagic 4 and 5 and we are in the process >> of >> updating it to work with RootsMagic 6 files. If you are using RootsMagic >> 6 >> already, please check back with us in about 3 weeks to see if we have it >> ready for testing with RM 6. You do not need to register or add the code >> until you are ready to test. The three months will start when you >> register." >> >> Yvonne Scott >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Holden" <ve3meo@gmail.com> >> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? >> >> >>> Of the $15/yr, I am not aware for AncestorSync. I saw that for >>> SharingTime. >>> But as I have received no confirmation from AncestorSync, perhaps my >>> submission of the online form somehow failed. >>> >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David, I am only familiar with that incident in Tennessee, Kentucky, and North Carolina. That would occur when the head of the household would send the child to live with a particular person who would board them, care for them, and develop their skills for certain types of work; i.e., cobbler, weaver, caretaker, painter, etc. The instrument will sometimes contain all of the specifications; others are just in general terms. It will also contain information and conditions for the completion of the guardianship. This also occurs when both parents or one of the parents dies early in the life of a child. Usually, there are no family members close by, or, doesn't want to accept the responsibilities. I know of one case where a child had a guardian for the younger years and then, transferred to another person who would see that they had skills in the areas where the child could be responsible and care for himself; become employed; and start a family. My maternal 2nd grate grandfather was placed out with a harness maker and cobbler in one state. Next he showed up in North Carolina where he spent several years working as an intern in other skills before moving to Hiseville District, Barren County, KY where he worked in both skills. Then he immigrated to Perry County, Missouri and worked there until his death. This happened frequently in olden times clear back to BC. The skills acquired were metal workers, artisans for jewelry, weaving, making archery and later guns. Just let you imagination run wild and it would probably have guardianships or internships in its history. Sometimes is covered events where the guardianship was punishment for civil deeds or debts. Hope this might give you an idea where to search for other information to accompany this new fact. Good luck with your research. Kate Redford Salem, Oregon, USA -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David E. Cann Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:01 PM To: RootsMagic Users List Posting Subject: [RMagic] Legal guardian fact? As long as I have been using this software I never thought I would be saying this, but how do I enter a legal guardian for someone? I have never run into this before. The guardian did not adopt them (6 siblings), so adoption doesn't appear to be the right choice of fact, but what is? I am thinking about using the generic "Miscellaneous" fact, but I don't really care for that, either. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or "david.e.cann" on Skype =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If another (non-RootsMagic) program writes into your RM database and corrupts it, we (RootsMagic) will not be responsible for recovering lost data. - Bruce http://www.rootsmagic.com On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Yvonne Scott <scottlass@triad.rr.com> wrote: > I thought AncestorSync was free because I did not see a price on their > website. After I downloaded the program they sent me an email with a link to > confirm my email address. After clicking the link I saw they wanted me to > pay $35/yr. So I emailed them and told them I was deleting the program and > would not pay since there is nothing about $35/yr on their website. I told > them I'd be glad to be a beta testor and they sent me the code to put in. > They said it would enable me to test the software for 3 months. > > They recommend you use a copy of your database for testing and said: > "AncestorSync will work with RootsMagic 4 and 5 and we are in the process of > updating it to work with RootsMagic 6 files. If you are using RootsMagic 6 > already, please check back with us in about 3 weeks to see if we have it > ready for testing with RM 6. You do not need to register or add the code > until you are ready to test. The three months will start when you > register." > > Yvonne Scott > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Holden" <ve3meo@gmail.com> > To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? > > >> Of the $15/yr, I am not aware for AncestorSync. I saw that for >> SharingTime. >> But as I have received no confirmation from AncestorSync, perhaps my >> submission of the online form somehow failed. >> > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm glad that is your choice. I don't want anyone penetrating any of my software and data files that is not an authorized tech for my 3rd party, independent software. Kate Redford Salem, Oregon, USA -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RootsMagic Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:31 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? We are not involved in the development of any other company's products (especially products that would modify the native RM data files). - Bruce http://www.rootsmagic.com On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Tom Holden <ve3meo@gmail.com> wrote: > That's an important point, Bruce. Is there any cooperation between > AncestorSync and yourself? > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: RootsMagic > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:22 PM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? > > If another (non-RootsMagic) program writes into your RM database and > corrupts it, we (RootsMagic) will not be responsible for recovering > lost data. > > - Bruce > http://www.rootsmagic.com > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Yvonne Scott <scottlass@triad.rr.com> wrote: >> I thought AncestorSync was free because I did not see a price on >> their website. After I downloaded the program they sent me an email >> with a link to confirm my email address. After clicking the link I >> saw they wanted me to pay $35/yr. So I emailed them and told them I >> was deleting the program and would not pay since there is nothing >> about $35/yr on their website. I told them I'd be glad to be a beta >> testor and they sent me the code to put in. >> They said it would enable me to test the software for 3 months. >> >> They recommend you use a copy of your database for testing and said: >> "AncestorSync will work with RootsMagic 4 and 5 and we are in the >> process of updating it to work with RootsMagic 6 files. If you are >> using RootsMagic >> 6 >> already, please check back with us in about 3 weeks to see if we have >> it ready for testing with RM 6. You do not need to register or add >> the code until you are ready to test. The three months will start >> when you register." >> >> Yvonne Scott >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Holden" <ve3meo@gmail.com> >> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? >> >> >>> Of the $15/yr, I am not aware for AncestorSync. I saw that for >>> SharingTime. >>> But as I have received no confirmation from AncestorSync, perhaps my >>> submission of the online form somehow failed. >>> >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom, By signing up for beta testing, do you mean you signed up for the $15 / year offer? Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Holden" <ve3meo@gmail.com> To: <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [RMagic] AncestorSync? > Thanks for the tip, Kim. I find it really interesting that they work > directly on the database of the different softwares. I see that Geni.com > is in beta test but no sync yet with any other online tree. Interestingly, > the mailing address is shared by http://www.sharingtime.com which does > work with New Family Search but AncestorSync may be awaiting the > stabilization of Family Search Family Tree, just as RootsMagic is. > > I just signed up for beta testing... > > Tom > > > > On 2012-12-03, at 8:44 PM, Kim <kim.mills@wightman.ca> wrote: > >> I was wondering if anyone has used AncestorSync? >> http://ancestorsync.com/ I stumbled onto their website tonight after >> looking for ideas to sync databases. Their website seems to show that >> it can sync your RootsMagic database and convert it into other formats. >> I've also read on many genealogy blogs that it was allowing users to >> sync to Geni.com, new Family Search and a few others. >> >> Normally to update my Ancestry.com tree I export my RM gedcom then >> import and merge it into FTM 2012 and then sync it online. Something >> like this might make this process a bit simpler... Although it shows it >> works with FTM 2011, not 2012 yet. >> >> I'm curious if anyone using RM has tried this out? How did you find it >> handled converting facts, notes etc? Anyone tried it with shared facts? >> >> Kim >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message