Thanks. Previously I had missed seeing the "date last edited" even though I had searched for it. LOL Lindell -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alfred Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:01 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Report of Individuals Modification Date Try doing a report - list - Individual list of selected people. Select by data fields. Date last edited -- is after -- Dec 31 2012 (or whatever date you want to use.) I suppose you could do it for those edited in a given period: Date last edited -- is after -- 31 Dec 2011 AND -- Date last edited is before -- July 1 2012 Should get you those edited or entered in the first half of last year. Alfred =========== Lindell Martin wrote: > I would like to compare a couple of database files since it's possible > that I've made changes in each. It seems that a report could be made > to show all individuals edited/created during a certain time period. > Could someone give me guidance on how to create such a report? > > > > Gratefully, > > Lindell >

I had two master sources (freeform) called "Cemetery Records" and unwittingly caused a problem when I merged them. One has "Rootsweb" as the repository (from years ago). After merging the two, I tried to delete "Rootsweb" but I can't find any way to edit or delete the repository. Is there any way? This affects over 3,000 sources, most of which will be wrong. TIA. Laurie Nelson

Would someone explain to me how to enter adoptees into families in my RootsMagic 5 database when I have no information on their biological parents. Thanks. Tom Howle

Assuming you are adding an adopted child to parents you already have in your database: Add child as you regularly would. After he/she is added, open the adopted child's Edit Person screen. Highlight the two parents. On the right side, change the "Relationship to father" from "Birth" to "Adopted." Do same with mother. If you want to track both the birth parents and the adoptive parents, you can add a second set of parents. On 1/9/2013 5:26 PM, thomaschowle wrote: > Would someone explain to me how to enter adoptees into families in my RootsMagic 5 database when I have no information on their biological parents. Thanks. Tom Howle > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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I think the answer to your last question - attaching documents to sources - depends on how you define the Source. Is it the Birth Certificate? In which case the document would be attached to the Source (and consequently available to all Facts that use that Source). This of course results in a lot more sources. Or is it the Provider of the Birth Certificate (ie there are multiple certificates from the one source, such as the GRO in England)? In which case the document would be attached to those Facts which are using a specific certificate as a source. I use the latter method. I have heard that others use the former method. I'm not sure whether there is a 'right' or 'wrong' way of doing this - genealogically speaking. If you are using the former method and you have either originals or photocopies of original certificates, the 'provider' source will usually be part of the certificate. David Sydney Australia - very hot -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg LeBaron Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2013 2:43 PM To: ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] Preparing Sources and Attaching Documents I am working through the documents I have for my ancestors and trying to improve my source citations. I reviewed Elizabeth S. Mills' Evidence Explained and the source outlines she provides. I am using Roots Magic which uses her guides for preparing sources. My question is about a number of documents that I have which don't seem to fit the guides, and maybe that is why the Free-Form source is provided. My concern is with the following: What do you do with birth certificates and other vital records that have been handed down and you don't have the information about how to obtain them for completing a normal source? What do you do with less formal documents like funeral programs, birth announcements, and all the other similar information that my mother and others kept and passed down to me? The next issue deals with attaching the documents. Do I attach the document to the source or as a media item, or both -- If I have an item like a birth certificate or wedding announcement, do I attach the document only to the source for the person; or do I attach it only as a media item to the person; or do I attach it to the source AND as a media item? Attaching it to the source "buries" it so it is difficult to access; attaching it as a media item makes it easier to access, but divorces it from other information. What is generally done? =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is new with 6004? -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 5 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Try doing a report - list - Individual list of selected people. Select by data fields. Date last edited -- is after -- Dec 31 2012 (or whatever date you want to use.) I suppose you could do it for those edited in a given period: Date last edited -- is after -- 31 Dec 2011 AND -- Date last edited is before -- July 1 2012 Should get you those edited or entered in the first half of last year. Alfred =========== Lindell Martin wrote: > I would like to compare a couple of database files since it's possible that > I've made changes in each. It seems that a report could be made to show all > individuals edited/created during a certain time period. Could someone give > me guidance on how to create such a report? > > > > Gratefully, > > Lindell >

I would like to compare a couple of database files since it's possible that I've made changes in each. It seems that a report could be made to show all individuals edited/created during a certain time period. Could someone give me guidance on how to create such a report? Gratefully, Lindell

When I try to Publish Online a second site it overwrites the first one. Is it necessary to register a new account to publish a second one or is it not possible to do it? Jess Davis *********************** The limit is on the number of sites you can have hosted on MyRootsMagic.com, which can be created solely by Publish Online. Tom >

The limit is on the number of sites you can have hosted on MyRootsMagic.com, which can be created solely by Publish Online. Tom >

Is the site limit of 2 for publish online , create an html site or a combination of both? J Davis

I am working through the documents I have for my ancestors and trying to improve my source citations. I reviewed Elizabeth S. Mills’ Evidence Explained and the source outlines she provides. I am using Roots Magic which uses her guides for preparing sources. My question is about a number of documents that I have which don’t seem to fit the guides, and maybe that is why the Free-Form source is provided. My concern is with the following: What do you do with birth certificates and other vital records that have been handed down and you don’t have the information about how to obtain them for completing a normal source? What do you do with less formal documents like funeral programs, birth announcements, and all the other similar information that my mother and others kept and passed down to me? The next issue deals with attaching the documents. Do I attach the document to the source or as a media item, or both -- If I have an item like a birth certificate or wedding announcement, do I attach the document only to the source for the person; or do I attach it only as a media item to the person; or do I attach it to the source AND as a media item? Attaching it to the source “buries” it so it is difficult to access; attaching it as a media item makes it easier to access, but divorces it from other information. What is generally done?

It sounds like the notes window is simply not the "focus" window because it's underneath other windows. I don't know why it would be losing focus as soon as it opens but that would explain why it appears the program has stopped responding. You assume the program has stopped responding and use Task Manager to end it, not "open" it. If it's just a focus issue, it's not failing to respond, it's waiting for you to do something in the window you opened, but which is not in focus. Have you simply tried ALT-Tab or CTRL-Tab to bring the notes window to the front? On 1/7/13 8:50 PM, Arthur Dirks wrote: > I may have posted on this before, but I'm still hoping to solve my issue. I > often have to force RM subwindows - mostly Note windows - to open with task > manager. I haven't seen it listed elsewhere so I have to assume it's a > problem in my environment. It was a problem with RM-5 and persists in RM-6. > The Note subscreen/window blinks as if trying to open but drops behind other > screens and the program stops responding perhaps 60-80% of instances. When I > force RM to respond (ctrl-alt-del), the Notes subscreen seems to come from > behind other RM windows and proceeds normally. I've disabled most of my > seemingly-unnecessary start-ups. I usually have a browser, file manager and > a text editor open with RM, but they're presence or not seems unrelated. I'm > running Win7-64bit on an Asus P8z68 board with 8 gb of memory and an i5 > 2.67Ghz . I did not have this problem on my old Gigabyte AMD 32 bit WinXP. I > have a hefty application list but this is the only problem of this nature. > > > > I'm wondering if others have confronted this or have most-likely-culprit > suggestions. I can deal, but it's very annoying. Thanks for any help. > > > > Arthur Dirks > > adirks@dirksdesigns.com > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I may have posted on this before, but I'm still hoping to solve my issue. I often have to force RM subwindows - mostly Note windows - to open with task manager. I haven't seen it listed elsewhere so I have to assume it's a problem in my environment. It was a problem with RM-5 and persists in RM-6. The Note subscreen/window blinks as if trying to open but drops behind other screens and the program stops responding perhaps 60-80% of instances. When I force RM to respond (ctrl-alt-del), the Notes subscreen seems to come from behind other RM windows and proceeds normally. I've disabled most of my seemingly-unnecessary start-ups. I usually have a browser, file manager and a text editor open with RM, but they're presence or not seems unrelated. I'm running Win7-64bit on an Asus P8z68 board with 8 gb of memory and an i5 2.67Ghz . I did not have this problem on my old Gigabyte AMD 32 bit WinXP. I have a hefty application list but this is the only problem of this nature. I'm wondering if others have confronted this or have most-likely-culprit suggestions. I can deal, but it's very annoying. Thanks for any help. Arthur Dirks adirks@dirksdesigns.com

A longshot that I think you would have noticed in other places, but check to make sure you do not have the "Hover" feature enabled in your mouse settings. This would have the effect of having a larger window that contained the mouse pointer automatically gaining focus over what should be the active window. Neat when it works correctly, but it can be equally frustrating. *Control Panel> Ease of Access> Change How Your Mouse Works* scroll down, UNcheck box/"Activate a window by hovering over it with the mouse/" > /From:/"Arthur Dirks" <adirks@dirksdesigns.com <mailto:adirks@dirksdesigns.com>> > /Subject:/[RMagic] Arthur Dirks > /Date:/Mon, 7 Jan 2013 21:50:54 -0500 > > > I may have posted on this before, but I'm still hoping to solve my issue. I > often have to force RM subwindows - mostly Note windows - to open with task > manager. I haven't seen it listed elsewhere so I have to assume it's a > problem in my environment. It was a problem with RM-5 and persists in RM-6. > The Note subscreen/window blinks as if trying to open but drops behind other > screens and the program stops responding perhaps 60-80% of instances. When I > force RM to respond (ctrl-alt-del), the Notes subscreen seems to come from > behind other RM windows and proceeds normally. I've disabled most of my > seemingly-unnecessary start-ups. I usually have a browser, file manager and > a text editor open with RM, but they're presence or not seems unrelated. I'm > running Win7-64bit on an Asus P8z68 board with 8 gb of memory and an i5 > 2.67Ghz . I did not have this problem on my old Gigabyte AMD 32 bit WinXP. I > have a hefty application list but this is the only problem of this nature. > > > > I'm wondering if others have confronted this or have most-likely-culprit > suggestions. I can deal, but it's very annoying. Thanks for any help. > > > > Arthur Dirks > > adirks@dirksdesigns.com <mailto:adirks@dirksdesigns.com>

The busy discussion under the topic "RootsMagic 6 - sorting of birth, death and burial events when all occur in the same year" failed to highlight the fact that RootsMagic 6 does not even have a tool with which one can readily find these out-of-natural-order events when they are dated the same or not at all. So even those users who think that having control over the Sort date is all they need are faced with having to detect such disturbing sequences by laborious, manual inspection followed by even more laborious, manual editing of the Sort date. To get a picture of the size of the problem, I developed a SQLite script that does not modify your data but does report many kinds of 'unnatural' sequences that could be jarring in the Edit Person or RM Explorer screens or in the Timeline View and may make a disturbing sequence of events and sentences in reports. It's found at http://sqlitetoolsforrootsmagic.wikispaces.com/Facts+-+Sort+Order+Problems and is experimental and not optimised for speed. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Tom Holden Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:53 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] RootsMagic 6 - sorting of birth, death and burial events when all occur in the same year Merry Xmas day, everyone! Remarkable discussion for a big holiday ;-) My SQLite script works only on selected events having the same date. If memory serves, that may include undated events. It does not address your example, Bruce, of undated birth and death relative to a dated marriage. Perhaps one could address those cases but is it not preferable that the user input, at the least, estimated dates for birth and death? That helps to narrow the results of searches on databases and is almost essential to the analysis of potentially relevant data, e.g., the TimeLine View. I think SortDate is a great feature for controlling the order of facts but it is also underutilized by users and the program could exploit it more than it does. Cheers! Tom On 2012-12-25, at 11:48 AM, RootsMagic <rootsmagic@gmail.com> wrote: > Paul, > > I think I understand how dates and sort dates work ;-) > > What I meant by saying if there is no date (thus no sort date), is > that what is being asked for is for RM to *automatically* put those > events in BMD order. If I enter a birth and death event with no date, > RM does not just make up a sort date (thus no sort date by default). > > So if I entered the events as per my original post (birth and death > with no date... and no sort date, and a marriage with a date), how > does Tom's script handle that? Adding a -# to a sort date that > doesn't exist won't work like it does when there *is* a sort date. > > - Also, if I have a birth and death with no date (and therefor no > automatic sort date), should RM make up sort dates based on the other > events in the person's life to try and make the birth appear before > them and the death to appear after them? > > - Additionally, if it *did* make up sort dates based on other events > in the person's life... how far should it adjust them before (or > after) the existing events? > > - And if it *did* make up sort dates based on other events, and the > user later added an event before the fake birth sort date or after the > fake death sort date, should RM re-adjust the fake sort dates to keep > them in place. > > - And if it *did* make up sort dates, how should those sort dates be > handled when RM needs to show multiple people's events together (like > in a timeline)? > > We have tried in the past to explain the complexities behind this, but > some folks seem to think we are just being lazy or unwilling to listen > to users on this topic. > > - Bruce > http://www.rootsmagic.com > > > On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Paul Studly <paulstudly@att.net> wrote: >> A sort date is not the same as an event date. See your book and the >> event >> entry screen >> >> birth bef 1800 >> married 1800 >> death aft 1800 >> >> Paul A. Studly, Esq. >> Chesterland/Cleveland, OH >> 440-829-9207 Verizon cell >> paulstudly@studly.net >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: RootsMagic <rootsmagic@gmail.com> >> To: "rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com" <rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tue, December 25, 2012 9:39:05 AM >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] RootsMagic 6 - sorting of birth, death and burial >> events >> when all occur in the same year >> >> Jerry, >> >> I haven't tried Tom's script, but I see that it puts a -# on the end of >> the >> sort date. I'm asking the following questions just to get an idea of how >> it handles situations which aren't simply two events with the same date. >> >> How does it handle a birth and death where neither has a date (and >> therefore no sort dates). >> >> How does it handle a situation like this? >> >> Married 1800 >> Born (no date) >> Died (no date) >> >> - Bruce >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 25, 2012, Jerry Bryan wrote: >> >>> Although it is a total crock... what if I have a single birth source >>> with a date of 1900, and a single death source with a date of 1899? >>> >>> Which order should we display this? >>> >>> Born 1900 >>> Died 1899 >>> >>> or >>> >>> Died 1899 >>> Born 1900 >>> >>> Keep in mind that whatever order you choose, someone else will want it >>> the other way. >>> >>> - Bruce >>> http://www.rootsmagic.com >>> >>> >>> Bruce, your point is well taken with this particular example. I’m >>> doubtful >>> that you would get disagreement from very many users that the default >>> order >>> in the case below should be death before birth, and that the user could >>> override the default order by using sort dates: >>> >>> Died 1899 >>> Born 1900 >>> >>> >>> >>> But that’s not the issue at hand. The issue at hand and what has always >>> been the issue is when the dates are the same. When the dates are the >>> same, >>> the following is just wrong. >>> >>> Died 1900 >>> Born 1900 >>> >>> >>> Just to amplify this point further, Tom Holden’s neat little SQLite >>> script >>> to fix obvious event ordering problems will fix the “died 1900, born >>> 1900” >>> case (as well it should), and his script will not fix the “born 1899, >>> died >>> 1900” case (as well it should not). The “born 1899, died 1900” case >>> should >>> only be fixed by some sort of conscious decision by the user – such as >>> adding sort dates or such as deciding that the death source is more >>> credible than the birth source or vice versa. >>> >>> Jerry >>> >>> >>> =================================== >>> RM list Archives: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >>> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >>> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com <javascript:;> with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >> >> >> >> -- >> - Bruce >> http://www.rootsmagic.com >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might be able to reduce that number a bit by going to the tools menu and choosing the Set living item. Set living to false for a selected group of people and choose: Any fact -- date -- is before -- 1900 ( or sometime like that.) Alfred ========== Myrna wrote: > Drew: > Thank you for the information. It worked great. I was really surprised > when I found I have 54 pages with names to check. > Myrna > > -----Original Message----- > From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Drew Smith > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:11 AM > To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Custom list of people who are listed as living > > 1. Reports > Print a Report... > 2. Lists > Individual List > 3. Create Report > 4. People to include (change dropdown from "Everyone" to "Select from list" > 3. Mark group > Select people by data fields 4. Living flag - is True 5. OK, > OK, Generate Report > > Drew Smith > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Myrna <m5y13@ida.net> wrote: > >> I have been trying to create a list of everyone in my database that >> will show everyone I have marked as living. There are some that have >> died that haven't been changed. >> >> Is there a way to do that. >> > >

Drew: Thank you for the information. It worked great. I was really surprised when I found I have 54 pages with names to check. Myrna -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Drew Smith Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:11 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] Custom list of people who are listed as living 1. Reports > Print a Report... 2. Lists > Individual List 3. Create Report 4. People to include (change dropdown from "Everyone" to "Select from list" 3. Mark group > Select people by data fields 4. Living flag - is True 5. OK, OK, Generate Report Drew Smith On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Myrna <m5y13@ida.net> wrote: > I have been trying to create a list of everyone in my database that > will show everyone I have marked as living. There are some that have > died that haven't been changed. > > Is there a way to do that. =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can create a Group for that cemetery. Burial place contains [place name] AND Burial place details contain [cemetery name] Save the Group. Edit the Group and put the same criteria in Find. Click on Next to go to the next person. Unmark the person's who do not have the same dates. Select that Group to show in the Sidebar. Put the main view on Timeline. Highlight each person in turn in the Sidebar and correct the Burial fact in the right pane of the Timeline view. To eliminate the corrected date from the Group, edit the Group: Unmark Burial date contains aft Or you could Customize the People view with the burial date using the Group for a filter and scroll down looking for any dates you missed correcting. Open the Edit person screen and correct the date. If you want a printed list, create a Custom report with name, record number, death date, burial date. Use the above criteria to filter the report. Save and print the report and work from the printed report. I would suggest you also create the group to make it easier to find the people on the printed Custom report. Laura --------- *From:* "David E. Cann" <decann@infionline.net> *Subject:* [RMagic] Burial/death search within by date *Date:* Sat, 5 Jan 2013 19:34:59 -0500 I have tried just about everything I can think of to print a specific report of death and burial dates, but cannot seem to find the right combination of criteria to make it work. What I want to do is to print out a list of individuals who have death and burial dates that ARE THE SAME DATE. I have a fair number of them based on a very large cemetery record I managed to obtain, and when I started to notice what seemed to be more than a few folks shown as buried on the same date they died, I questioned it. I was assured they were correct, so I went ahead and entered them as shown. Now, I have more reason to question them and want to go back and change the date of burial to "aft 5 Feb 1891" (or the like) rather than "5 Feb 1891" that it current states. I am very surprised, but I cannot find any means of setting either Search & Replace or any other search tool to result in telling me who is shown with death and burial dates that are the same. Am I missing something, or is there no way of doing this. I prefer a printed list, that way I can do them one at a time and change them that way for accuracy, but if Search and Replace will do it then I can sure live with it. If anyone out there (are you out there Bruce?) reading this can straighten me out, I would appreciate it. Note that now with burials now being in cemeteries that no longer list in place names but in place details, it is now kind of different than it used to be and I cannot find the right combination to make it work. I appreciate any advice available out there, and thank you in advance. David E. Cann