I started using dropbox as a backup "cloud" program for several years, specifically when I was using RM4. Suzie Henderson, website manager for Fannin Co., Texas' genealogy website introduced me to dropbox when she started using it to backup all the data for the Fannin County website. If you take a look at the "new" Fannin County, Texas website you will see it contains extrtraordinary amount of material with plans for adding two-three times data as much data as it now contains. Suzie tried several clouds and says she's happier with dropbox than any of the others. Many individiduals who submit data to Suzie generally do so via dropbox. The current goal of the website is to collect as obituary and/or death record, military records, etc., as can be found for each individual buried in Fannin County and "attaching" or linking that data to the "cemetery/burial" record. Eventually, land deeds and other misc. records may be added. Recently, I lost data I'd back up to another cloud, but all the genealogy and photos I'd backed up to dropbox was "safe" and downloadable. I'm very pleased with dropbox. Although I've not much effort to get free space by encouraging friends and acquaintances to use dropbox, over the years I've gained a fair amount of extra space by sharing gedcom's and/or photos via dropbox. Every time I close my RM software program, it is authomatically backed up to a folder I use for that purpose in dropbox. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL REICH Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:34 AM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RMagic] A More basic question about dropbox Dropbox is a completely separate program that has nothing to do with any version of RootsMagic. The latest RM is optimized to allow using Dropbox, but the utility is for sharing/syncing files between devices, such as PC, laptop, Mac, smartphone, etc. You "drop" files in the DropBox folder and they are copied automatically to the DropBox server and subsequently to any devices you have linked to your DropBox account. So you could keep your password data file in Dropbox and have it available for use on any device. Or a spreadsheet. Or your RM data files. Or you can give others access to specific files you wish to share. Dropbox provides 2 GB of storage free and you can purchase additional storage. Detailed info is available at www.dropbox.com

Dropbox is a completely separate program that has nothing to do with any version of RootsMagic. The latest RM is optimized to allow using Dropbox, but the utility is for sharing/syncing files between devices, such as PC, laptop, Mac, smartphone, etc. You "drop" files in the DropBox folder and they are copied automatically to the DropBox server and subsequently to any devices you have linked to your DropBox account. So you could keep your password data file in Dropbox and have it available for use on any device. Or a spreadsheet. Or your RM data files. Or you can give others access to specific files you wish to share. Dropbox provides 2 GB of storage free and you can purchase additional storage. Detailed info is available at www.dropbox.com I have been happily plodding along still using RM3, partly due to finances, partly because I've followed with some confusion all the varied questions on the list every time there's an upgrade. However, I'm interested in the small discussion about using Dropbox. I hadn't heard that before. Is this for backup AND for syncing? Can somebody please tell me which version of RM this facility became available? Would I have to go right up to version 6 to access this? And do I take it that this only involves Dropbox? I've currently using SugarSync for backup and syncing (and loving it) but I guess Dropbox is much the same. Thanks for any help and answers. Judith Harper Nelson, NZ On 19/01/2013 08:19, Nancy Fischer wrote: Are there any instructions on the Rootsmagic tutorials on how to use Dropbox? I tried a couple of places, but didn’t find it. I have downloaded Dropbox to my desktop, but don’t see how to get it on the laptop. Download it again? Log on from the laptop and it will so it itself? How do I tell Rootsmagic to backup files to Dropbox? Thank you, Nancy

we had a webinar which covered it Working with files. Jon On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Judith Harper <quester@orcon.net.nz> wrote: > > > I have been happily plodding along still using RM3, partly due to > finances, partly because I've followed with some confusion all the > varied questions on the list every time there's an upgrade. > > However, I'm interested in the small discussion about using Dropbox. I > hadn't heard that before. Is this for backup AND for syncing? Can > somebody please tell me which version of RM this facility became > available? Would I have to go right up to version 6 to access this? > And do I take it that this only involves Dropbox? I've currently using > SugarSync for backup and syncing (and loving it) but I guess Dropbox is > much the same. > > Thanks for any help and answers. > > Judith Harper > Nelson, NZ > > On 19/01/2013 08:19, Nancy Fischer wrote: > > Are there any instructions on the Rootsmagic tutorials on how to use > Dropbox? I tried a couple of places, but didn’t find it. I have > downloaded Dropbox to my desktop, but don’t see how to get it on the > laptop. Download it again? Log on from the laptop and it will so it itself? > > > > How do I tell Rootsmagic to backup files to Dropbox? > > > > Thank you, > > Nancy > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 5 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Yes, it is for both backup and syncing as well as for sharing with others. If you give others permission, they can look at some of your files even if they don't have Dropbox. It doesn't matter what version of RM you use. You can put any kinds of files in Dropbox: photos, word processing, spread sheets, etc. Jim Bullock Littleton, Colorado -----Original Message----- From: rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rootsmagic-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judith Harper Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:06 PM To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [RMagic] A More basic question about dropbox I have been happily plodding along still using RM3, partly due to finances, partly because I've followed with some confusion all the varied questions on the list every time there's an upgrade. However, I'm interested in the small discussion about using Dropbox. I hadn't heard that before. Is this for backup AND for syncing? Can somebody please tell me which version of RM this facility became available? Would I have to go right up to version 6 to access this? And do I take it that this only involves Dropbox? I've currently using SugarSync for backup and syncing (and loving it) but I guess Dropbox is much the same. Thanks for any help and answers. Judith Harper Nelson, NZ

This link explains how to get Dropbox on all your devices https://www.dropbox.com/help/4/en Dropbox was included in RootsMagic Webinar #6, Working with Files and Folders in RootsMagic. http://www.rootsmagic.com/Webinars/ Bruce's discussion on Dropbox starts at about 54:09 and covers how to set up Dropbox and how to back up RootsMagic to it. Yvonne > Are there any instructions on the Rootsmagic tutorials on how to use > Dropbox? I tried a couple of places, but didn’t find it. I have > downloaded Dropbox to my desktop, but don’t see how to get it on the > laptop. Download it again? Log on from the laptop and it will so it > itself? > > How do I tell Rootsmagic to backup files to Dropbox?

Dropbox needs to be installed on each device on which you wish to use it, including iPad, iPhone, laptop, desktop, etc. Once installed, link each installation to the same Dropbox account. On 1/18/13 1:19 PM, Nancy Fischer wrote: > Are there any instructions on the Rootsmagic tutorials on how to use Dropbox? I tried a couple of places, but didn’t find it. I have downloaded Dropbox to my desktop, but don’t see how to get it on the laptop. Download it again? Log on from the laptop and it will so it itself? > > How do I tell Rootsmagic to backup files to Dropbox? > > Thank you, > Nancy > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, to install Dropbox on your laptop, you would normally just download it again. To tell RootsMagic 6 to backup your files to Dropbox: 1. Tools 2. Program Options... 3. Folders 4. Click on the ... to the right of the Backup files line and navigate to your Dropbox folder. You can use a sub-folder within your Dropbox folder (Make New Folder), if you like. 5. Click "OK". Drew Smith On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Nancy Fischer <nmfischer@roadrunner.com> wrote: > Are there any instructions on the Rootsmagic tutorials on how to use Dropbox? I tried a couple of places, but didn’t find it. I have downloaded Dropbox to my desktop, but don’t see how to get it on the laptop. Download it again? Log on from the laptop and it will so it itself? > > How do I tell Rootsmagic to backup files to Dropbox?

Are there any instructions on the Rootsmagic tutorials on how to use Dropbox? I tried a couple of places, but didn’t find it. I have downloaded Dropbox to my desktop, but don’t see how to get it on the laptop. Download it again? Log on from the laptop and it will so it itself? How do I tell Rootsmagic to backup files to Dropbox? Thank you, Nancy

I find that in the publishing window there is an icon symbol that is 8 circles in varying color that should indicate program is working, By rotating the circles. None of them work in the publishing window. John S Wilkinson Rome, NY

Jon: Thank you for that information. Ink did not show low but changed blue cartridge and no more pink. I never would have figured that one out. Sally ---- Jon Czarowitz <czarowitz@gmail.com> wrote: > You are also needing to change the color ink cartridge. Iy is out. 1st sign > is that pink. > Jon > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM, <pegrags@kc.rr.com> wrote: > > > Hello: > > When printing a Family Group Sheet the picture and "Children" line > > print pink. The rest of the page is black printing. How can I eliminate > > the color? Sally > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 5 http://www.rootsmagic.com > CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On the Select a source screen or the Source Template screen, all you have to do is start typing the name of rhe template, Typing cen will take you to the Census templates. Typing w will take you to source templates starting with W. On the Select a source screen, highlight a source template. Click on the star just to the left of the Favorites menu at the top of the screen. The star next to the menu will turn gold and the template is added to the Favorites menu. Clicking on the star again removes the template from the menu. Add a frequently used source template to the Master source list as a source. Start the source name with a character and Template. It will sort to the top of the list. Enter any information that will always be used with a source from that template, such as County and State, special directions to yourself for when you use that source entered into the text or comments, or Repositories. When you want to use that source template again, copy the source template from the Master source list and make needed changes to the copy. I use this method for my Free Form sources. In the Master source text for the template source, I enter a source detail template for data to be entered into the Page number box for that type source. This can be read in or copied from the right pane when entering the source detail. Making a Master source template is the answer to not having to do the same thing over and over again. For instance, I have different source templates for censuses for the counties and states I use the most. I only have to change the year and the NARA number and roll and the source name. I suggest your friend go to http://www.bcgcertification.org/ for specific information on what it takes to get certified. Laura --------------- From: Paul Studly <paulstudly@att.net> I pointed her toward the <web site multiple databases> choice and she initially thought that would be a big help. Primary sources obtained via internet services were troubling her especially. Of course "W" for "web . . . " is near the bottom of the choice listing. <sigh> It might be helpful to others if <web site multiple databases> were the second item in the listing of choices given its common use these days. <Free form> is all right if one is not bothered by repeatedly DOING THE SAME THING. HAVING LEARNED THAT CREATING ONE'S OWN TEMPLATES ARE POSSIBLE WILL HELP TOO. I over heard that one had to submit 5 samples and that approval was quite fussy.

You are also needing to change the color ink cartridge. Iy is out. 1st sign is that pink. Jon On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM, <pegrags@kc.rr.com> wrote: > Hello: > When printing a Family Group Sheet the picture and "Children" line > print pink. The rest of the page is black printing. How can I eliminate > the color? Sally > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 5 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

I pointed her toward the <web site multiple databases> choice and she initially thought that would be a big help. Primary sources obtained via internet services were troubling her especially. Of course "W" for "web . . . " is near the bottom of the choice listing. <sigh> It might be helpful to others if <web site multiple databases> were the second item in the listing of choices given its common use these days. <Free form> is all right if one is not bothered by repeatedly DOING THE SAME THING. HAVING LEARNED THAT CREATING ONE'S OWN TEMPLATES ARE POSSIBLE WILL HELP TOO. I over heard that one had to submit 5 samples and that approval was quite fussy. Paul A. Studly, Esq. Chesterland/Cleveland, OH 440-829-9207 Verizon cell paulstudly@studly.net ________________________________ From: Connie Sheets <clsheets1@yahoo.com> To: rootsmagic-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, January 13, 2013 11:50:00 AM Subject: Re: [RMagic] Conforming RM to Elizabeth Mills for Certified Genealogist status purposes Paul, The RM source templates are based upon Mrs. Mills Evidence Explained, although no genealogy program can anticipate all possible sources that will need to be cited. If the RM templates don't fit your friends needs, she can either modify them as previously explained, or use the free-form template. Perhaps I misunderstood your post, but BCG certification does not require "5 genealogies." While an RTF report download or copying and pasting from RM might be able to serve as a basis for some of the certification requirements, considerable editing in a word processor will be required. Many of those who have achieved certification, or are working on their portfolios, find it much easier to write the required narratives from scratch. Connie Paul Studly <paulstudly@att.net> wrote: > A friend and more recent > convert to RM is desirous of doing the required > 5 genealogies sourced with RM sourcing tools. > > Conforming RM to Elizabeth Mills for Certified Genealogist > status purposes. > > She would appreciate any advice available. > > Is it possible to create any of your own source > templates? I seen to > recall - not possible. But perhaps some have thought of > useful work > around's. > =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul, The RM source templates are based upon Mrs. Mills Evidence Explained, although no genealogy program can anticipate all possible sources that will need to be cited. If the RM templates don't fit your friends needs, she can either modify them as previously explained, or use the free-form template. Perhaps I misunderstood your post, but BCG certification does not require "5 genealogies." While an RTF report download or copying and pasting from RM might be able to serve as a basis for some of the certification requirements, considerable editing in a word processor will be required. Many of those who have achieved certification, or are working on their portfolios, find it much easier to write the required narratives from scratch. Connie Paul Studly <paulstudly@att.net> wrote: >   A friend and more recent > convert to RM is desirous  of doing the required > 5 genealogies sourced with RM sourcing tools. > > Conforming RM to Elizabeth Mills for Certified Genealogist > status purposes. > >   She would appreciate any advice available. > >   Is it possible to create any of your own source > templates? I seen to > recall - not possible. But perhaps some have thought of > useful work > around's. >

A friend and more recent convert to RM is desirous of doing the required 5 genealogies sourced with RM sourcing tools. Conforming RM to Elizabeth Mills for Certified Genealogist status purposes. She would appreciate any advice available. Is it possible to create any of your own source templates? I seen to recall - not possible. But perhaps some have thought of useful work around's. Paul A. Studly, Esq. <mailto:paulstudly@studly.net> paulstudly@studly.net Cleveland/Chesterland, Ohio 440-829-9207 Verizon Cell IRS Circular 230 - Any tax advice contained in the body of this correspondence was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions.

Go to Lists, Source templates, Add and create a new user defined source template. Copying and changing an existing template is the other way to make a user defined template. This has been possible ever since Source templates were introduced. Laura ------------- *From:* "Paul Studly" <paulstudly@att.net> ** Is it possible to create any of your own source templates? I seen to recall - not possible. But perhaps some have thought of useful work around's.

As we begin 2013, it occurs to me that I have been the RootsMagic-Users List Administrator for a year. I am grateful for all of the list subscribers who share their expertise and assist others with using the RootsMagic software. I have updated the welcome message that all new subscribers automatically get. To make certain that *all* subscribers know what it says, I am reproducing it at the end of this message. Regards, Drew Smith RootsMagic-Users List Administrator *** Welcome to the RootsMagic-Users Mailing List. The purpose of this list is to allow current or potential users of the RootsMagic software to ask questions or share information relevant to the use of the software. NOT AN OFFICIAL COMPANY VEHICLE: Although representatives from RootsMagic, Inc. monitor this list, the list is *not* an official communications channel for the company, and the company does not operate this list in any way. Do not share or request software registration keys or other private information on this list. To contact RootsMagic, visit their website at www.rootsmagic.com. INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT: Please do not send the following kinds of messages to the list: 1. "Test" messages, or any other message that concerns a problem with using the list itself. If you think that you are having a problem with using the list, email the list administrator directly. 2. "Thank you" messages. If you appreciate an answer that you got from another list subscriber, email that list subscriber directly. 3. Messages that are not about using the RootsMagic software but instead are about genealogy research in general or about specific families. Use other, more appropriate genealogy mailing lists for that kind of content. 4. Replies to digests where the subject line was not changed from the digest subject line to the original message subject line, or where the rest of the digest apart from the portion being responded to was not edited from the message. Failure to abide by this rule may result in your subscription being changed from digest mode to individual message mode. 5. Rude or insulting content. Messages containing this kind of content, at the sole discretion of the list administrator, may result in the list subscriber being placed on moderated status without warning. 6. Discussions about whether the content of someone else’s message is inappropriate or off-topic, or whether a topic has gone on for too long. If you have a concern about any of these issues, email the list administrator directly. OTHER TIPS: 1. When you are replying to a message, it is not necessary for you to include the entire message you’re replying to. Include only the relevant portions. 2. Use a brief but informative subject line that describes the content of your message. Do not use subject lines that consist of nothing more than "Help" or "Question" or "Problem".

I too can be sloppy with documenting online searches on the Research Log, so yes, the Web Tags help with this. I use them whether they are formal sources or not, and mostly attach to the Person. I don't like having gazillions of census images, for example, on my hard drive so I use the Web Tags to assist with my "cloud storage." I also use them to link to sites such as online family trees that have the potential to be helpful later. I'm trying to be consistent with adding the date I visited the site and other relevant information, like the website creator, in the Note section of the Web Tag in case the sites disappear down the road. That way, the Way Back Machine or Google might help me find it again. Connie

Somehow, you must have run RootsMagic ToGo and got RootsMagic into the C:\Program Files\ folder because that RootsMagicapp.xml file doesn't normally show up in the C:\Program Files (x86)\RootsMagic 6\ folder, but on mine it is in C:\Program Data\RootsMagic\version 6\ Now, on the flash drive where I have the ToGo version, it IS in the same folder as the program files. I do not understand the error message just giving you a path and filename. If you double click on that file it will open in your web browser and you will see a very short web page with your user name and user registration number, in a code of some kind. I would use Windows Explorer to look for another copy of RootsMagic.exe and see if you have two copies installed. If not, then you could try reinstalling but I think it will still think you are in TOGO mode unless you get rid of those two xml files in there. Deleting the whole RootsMagic 6 folder and reinstalling might be better but be careful that you don't delete any of your data or backup files _ They shouldn't be in the Program Files folder anyway. AND, you MAY have to re enter your user-name and registration number. Alfred =============== Tim Cox wrote: > When I launched RM6 on my desktop it told me that I was using RM To Go but > I wasn't. It would not let me close the program and kept giving me this > error message: > *C:\Program Files (x86)\RootsMagic 6\RootsMagicApp.xml* > I selected to send the error report to you several times and finally had to > close the program via task manager. > > I'm going to SLC on Sunday for a week while attending SLIG and would like > to have my database ready to use. > > > Should I uninstall it and re-install it? Suggestions? > > Thanks, > >

Several years ago I added a user-defined fact called #Not Married. A tip from another user long ago is the reason I add an asterisk in front of my user-defined facts. Makes it a lot easier to know when I can change the fact, rename it, or whatever I want to do with it. I chose not to use #Never Married because there have been times I was told or thought someone never married, only to find a spouse later in my research. I also color code unmarried people, so I can see at a glance not to waste time searching for a spouse for those people. Makes my life easier. I also created a user-defined fact called #childless. I only use it when I know for sure that they never had a child. You could create this fact for a couple and another one to use for individuals when one of them did have children. You could color code those people, too, if you want to. Laurie Nelson -------------------------------------------------- From: "thomaschowle" <thomaschowle@bellsouth.net> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:37 AM To: <ROOTSMAGIC-USERS@rootsweb.com> Subject: [RMagic] Possible Additions to Features of RM > Assuming that they are not already available in RootsMagic and I haven't > found them, I would like to suggest that two features be added. The first > is to be able to add a fact to an individual that would say "Never > Married". The second is to be able to add some sort of fact or note that > would appear on a couple's Family Group Sheet (and maybe other reports) > that would say "No Children". What do you think? Tom >