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    1. Re: [RMagic] Making paragraphs 7.0.2.2
    2. Tom Holden via
    3. This is a bleaker picture than is actually the case. I don't know what a Journal report is but RootsMagic Narrative reports supports paragraphing in more places than the auto-paragraphing settings: - within Notes for persons/couples/facts/events/sources/citations/... - within sentence templates for fact types and locally customised sentences There are things about paragraphing that could be improved but don't hesitate to experiment. Tom > On Jan 12, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Tom Momeyer via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jim, > > You posted a question (below) saying, "... how I can include paragraphs > where I actually want to put them... ." I recognize you as a TMG user, > either evaluating or having made the switch to RM (apologies if this is not > the case). In TMG, it's possible to use "carriage return" codes in the > events / facts, resulting in Journal or Narrative reports with paragraphs > that are user created, wherever you want them to be. I don't see a way to > do this in RM; having searched the Help content, find nothing equivalent, > other than the RM options previously mentioned that you found... one run-on > paragraph of all events / facts or each event / fact in its own paragraph. > > On the Rootsweb TMG-Refugees list, we discussed this same topic: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/tmg-refugees/2014-11/141671621 > 6 > (be careful with word wrap, some of the link may need to be copied manually) > > In the message noted above, there is a link to additional discussion: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/tmg-refugees/2014-10/141454776 > 6 > (same word wrap issue on the link above, copy / paste the entire link for it > to work) > > You also may be interested in checking out the TMG-Refugees separate > website, a google groups site, with comparison notes and data posted for > several different software options. There is one page noting "sentence > template" comparisons. TMG includes "carriage returns" under formatting > options and RM does not. > > If you dig through the Rootsweb TMG-Refugees comments and responses in the > links noted above, you may find someone saying they found a way to include > carriage returns in their RM narratives... after their import from TMG. I > see a couple of issues related to that method, (1) the carriage returns (for > creating paragraphs) are lost in RM import of TMG, (2) if you can add them > back following import and do it where you want them, not limited to the 3 > (global report) options previously noted, then where is the documentation > for it, so as to be confirmed by the developer(s) and not lost in future > development as a temporary work-a-round. > > Good luck and post here or on the TMG-Refugees list if you find a way to > keep and continue to use paragraphs from TMG into RM. > > Tom M. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Payne via > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 9:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [RMagic] Making paragraphs 7.0.2.2 > > When I look at the page "Book Options" which I have printed out to help I'm > not certain now how I got it :( I do see comments about paragraphs and I > have been playing about with the three suggestions to see what { can do > > What I am wanting is to know how I can include paragraphs where I actually > want to put them in > > * A book > > * A Report (especially in a Narrative Report) > > Jim > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/12/2015 03:31:38
    1. Re: [RMagic] Making paragraphs 7.0.2.2
    2. Tom Momeyer via
    3. Jim, You posted a question (below) saying, "... how I can include paragraphs where I actually want to put them... ." I recognize you as a TMG user, either evaluating or having made the switch to RM (apologies if this is not the case). In TMG, it's possible to use "carriage return" codes in the events / facts, resulting in Journal or Narrative reports with paragraphs that are user created, wherever you want them to be. I don't see a way to do this in RM; having searched the Help content, find nothing equivalent, other than the RM options previously mentioned that you found... one run-on paragraph of all events / facts or each event / fact in its own paragraph. On the Rootsweb TMG-Refugees list, we discussed this same topic: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/tmg-refugees/2014-11/141671621 6 (be careful with word wrap, some of the link may need to be copied manually) In the message noted above, there is a link to additional discussion: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/tmg-refugees/2014-10/141454776 6 (same word wrap issue on the link above, copy / paste the entire link for it to work) You also may be interested in checking out the TMG-Refugees separate website, a google groups site, with comparison notes and data posted for several different software options. There is one page noting "sentence template" comparisons. TMG includes "carriage returns" under formatting options and RM does not. If you dig through the Rootsweb TMG-Refugees comments and responses in the links noted above, you may find someone saying they found a way to include carriage returns in their RM narratives... after their import from TMG. I see a couple of issues related to that method, (1) the carriage returns (for creating paragraphs) are lost in RM import of TMG, (2) if you can add them back following import and do it where you want them, not limited to the 3 (global report) options previously noted, then where is the documentation for it, so as to be confirmed by the developer(s) and not lost in future development as a temporary work-a-round. Good luck and post here or on the TMG-Refugees list if you find a way to keep and continue to use paragraphs from TMG into RM. Tom M. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Payne via Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 9:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RMagic] Making paragraphs 7.0.2.2 When I look at the page "Book Options" which I have printed out to help I'm not certain now how I got it :( I do see comments about paragraphs and I have been playing about with the three suggestions to see what { can do What I am wanting is to know how I can include paragraphs where I actually want to put them in * A book * A Report (especially in a Narrative Report) Jim

    01/12/2015 01:53:34
    1. Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com
    2. Dora Smith via
    3. Two differences; Ancestry is more affordable, since they have an affordable monthly subscription option, and far more people have subscriptions to Ancestry. MyHeritage wants to work with 23andMe, as I understand it. They'll get far more subscriptions if they stop with the high annual or semi-annual fee. It's the biggest thing in their way. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:37 PM To: Lynne Roberts ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com Well, not totally useless. I've gotten valuable hints from MyHeritage, though of course one can't take full advantage without the subscription. I have a suggestion, though. Any mileage in looking to get a similar arrangement with Ancestry? Dunno, maybe Family Tree Maker has that sewed up, which would be way too bad because Family Tree Maker is crappy software that can't even handle the depth of research that Ancestry supports. Dora -----Original --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

    01/12/2015 01:42:41
    1. Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com
    2. Dora Smith via
    3. Well, not totally useless. I've gotten valuable hints from MyHeritage, though of course one can't take full advantage without the subscription. I have a suggestion, though. Any mileage in looking to get a similar arrangement with Ancestry? Dunno, maybe Family Tree Maker has that sewed up, which would be way too bad because Family Tree Maker is crappy software that can't even handle the depth of research that Ancestry supports. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Lynne Roberts via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:43 PM To: 'Tom Holden' ; [email protected] ; 'Drew Smith' Subject: Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com Totally agree with you, Tom - and I'm unsettled by the statement that equates to a fiat - that there is no further discussion - . Isn't that attitude antithetical to the whole concept of an email list? Considering the fact that Roots Magic had incorporated familysearch and My Heritage inextricably into the program, it's difficult to understand why Roots Magic administration isn't interested in permitting further discussion. I am assuming that you are voicing the opinion of Roots Magic - is that incorrect? Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Holden via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 1:12 PM To: Drew Smith; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com Hi Drew, This is a very narrow view of the purpose of the list, in my opinion. "*Topic:* A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information regarding the RootsMagic genealogy software program from RootsMagic." WebHints from MyHeritage is now a feature of RootsMagic which is useless without a subscription to MyHeritage. So a discussion about the RootsMagic WebHints feature cannot be separated from the question of the subscription. If somebody asks, "is it worthwhile upgrading to RM7?", how can it be answered without touching on the cost and benefits of a MyHeritage subscription? Regards, Tom On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Drew Smith via < [email protected]> wrote: > Apparently I'm overdue in making my annual welcome to the > RootsMagic-Users list. > > In place of that, I will make the unfortunately necessary reminder > that this list exists to discuss *RootsMagic*, and this list does > *not* exist to discuss whether or not someone should or should not > subscribe to MyHeritage. > > Now that you've all been reminded, I can expect this list to get back > to the purpose of its existence. > > Happy New Year! > > Drew Smith > RootsMagic-Users List Administrator > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

    01/12/2015 01:37:25
    1. [RMagic] [ADMIN] A reminder from the Welcome message
    2. Drew Smith via
    3. Let me share with all of you part of the Welcome message that was sent to you when you subscribed to the RootsMagic-Users list (and that was previously posted to the list more than once a few years back for people who had already been subscribed when I took over the list): INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT: Please do not send the following kinds of messages to the list: Discussions about whether the content of someone else’s message is inappropriate or off-topic, or whether a topic has gone on for too long. If you have a concern about any of these issues, email the list administrator directly. *** So, when you joined the list, you were told the rules. This list is not run according to any other list's rules or degree of "leniency". It is run according to the rules that were sent to you. And when I say that something is off-topic, then it's off-topic, and there is no discussion about that *on the list*. You can dislike the rules. You can disagree with me. You can say so...privately. But you cannot continue to participate on the list if you're going to ignore the rules that you were already given. It's really up to you. Drew Smith RootsMagic-Users List Administrator

    01/12/2015 01:35:43
    1. Re: [RMagic] Import to RM7 and Living Persons
    2. Darcy Drews via
    3. Thank you Tom and Victoria. Yes, I did import a GEDCOM from another software company. Although I did not set living individuals to private, the software did it automatically when exporting the GEDCOM. I had to go to Ancestry and export my tree's GEDCOM which *did not* set my living persons to private. Then in RM I uploaded that Ancestry GEDCOM and now all is well is my little world. Thank you for your responses! >From one of the "lurkers" in the users list that decided to buy RootsMagic7 based on the greater flexibility in reporting and wealth of support I witnessed being available in the users list :) *Darcy L. Drews* [email protected]

    01/12/2015 12:57:29
    1. Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com
    2. Michael G. McManness via
    3. Carol, I'm also new to RM having come from TMG. I've already experienced problems in that the rootsmagic operation does not run as smoothly or is not as well-oiled as TMG. I won't go into detail on the list, but if Bruce Buzbee, and the company wants to expand its presence and profitability in the marketplace it will have to become better organized. Lee Hoffman (TMG Admin) was very lenient but fair. He understood the significance of issues like this and gave leeway. Drew Smith (RM Admin) is trying to prevent the discussion from getting out of hand or becoming an ongoing problem for him. Most people would obviously prefer the more lenient method of admin the list because we are adults. I agree with everyone that the discussion is pertinent to RM which is the basis for this list. Unfortunately, the genealogy database companies are all about making a profit or the bottom line which includes Ancestry/RootsWeb which is a Heritage competitor that also provides this discussion list. Perhaps, if enough people contacted Drew off-list [ [email protected] ] , and provided their perspective to lobby him to be more lenient, he might change or at least moderate his position or stance. The decision is completely up to Drew, the list admin, but it couldn't hurt to contact him regarding your preference as to how the list should be admin when there are gray areas or questions like the one that arises. Good luck! Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Anne via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:16 PM To: Ron Bernier; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com I am new to RM, coming from TMG. The administrator of the TMG list was very lenient, only prohibiting a discussion if it was really off topic AND had really gone on too long. I can't imagine why this discussion would be off limits as it seems important to me to learn whether or not my genealogy program is integrated with a shady company. That's scary! Carol Anne On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Ron Bernier via <[email protected]> wrote: > Lynne, Drew is the list administrator, but fortunately he has nothing > to do with RootsMagic (the product) administration. Unfortunately, > there may be lurkers contemplating switching to RM and the list > administrators attitude is enough to scare them off if they think the > list is representative of RM customer service. > > On Monday, January 12, 2015, Lynne Roberts via < > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Totally agree with you, Tom - and I'm unsettled by the statement that >> equates to a fiat - that there is no further discussion - . Isn't >> that attitude antithetical to the whole concept of an email list? >> Considering the fact that Roots Magic had incorporated familysearch >> and My Heritage inextricably into the program, it's difficult to >> understand why Roots Magic administration isn't interested in >> permitting further discussion. I am assuming that you are voicing >> the opinion of Roots Magic - is that incorrect? >> >> Lynne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom >> Holden via >> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 1:12 PM >> To: Drew Smith; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com >> >> Hi Drew, >> >> This is a very narrow view of the purpose of the list, in my opinion. >> "*Topic:* A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of >> information regarding the RootsMagic genealogy software program from RootsMagic." >> >> WebHints from MyHeritage is now a feature of RootsMagic which is >> useless without a subscription to MyHeritage. So a discussion about >> the RootsMagic WebHints feature cannot be separated from the question of the subscription. >> If somebody asks, "is it worthwhile upgrading to RM7?", how can it be >> answered without touching on the cost and benefits of a MyHeritage >> subscription? >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Drew Smith via < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Apparently I'm overdue in making my annual welcome to the >> > RootsMagic-Users list. >> > >> > In place of that, I will make the unfortunately necessary reminder >> > that this list exists to discuss *RootsMagic*, and this list does >> > *not* exist to discuss whether or not someone should or should not >> > subscribe to MyHeritage. >> > >> > Now that you've all been reminded, I can expect this list to get >> > back to the purpose of its existence. >> > >> > Happy New Year! >> > >> > Drew Smith >> > RootsMagic-Users List Administrator >> > >> > >> > =================================== >> > RM list Archives: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > Ron Bernier, > Woonsocket, RI > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/12/2015 12:22:38
    1. Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com
    2. Carol Anne via
    3. I am new to RM, coming from TMG. The administrator of the TMG list was very lenient, only prohibiting a discussion if it was really off topic AND had really gone on too long. I can't imagine why this discussion would be off limits as it seems important to me to learn whether or not my genealogy program is integrated with a shady company. That's scary! Carol Anne On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Ron Bernier via <[email protected]> wrote: > Lynne, Drew is the list administrator, but fortunately he has nothing to do > with RootsMagic (the product) administration. Unfortunately, there may be > lurkers contemplating switching to RM and the list administrators attitude > is enough to scare them off if they think the list is representative of RM > customer service. > > On Monday, January 12, 2015, Lynne Roberts via < > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Totally agree with you, Tom - and I'm unsettled by the statement that >> equates to a fiat - that there is no further discussion - . Isn't that >> attitude antithetical to the whole concept of an email list? Considering >> the fact that Roots Magic had incorporated familysearch and My Heritage >> inextricably into the program, it's difficult to understand why Roots Magic >> administration isn't interested in permitting further discussion. I am >> assuming that you are voicing the opinion of Roots Magic - is that >> incorrect? >> >> Lynne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Holden via >> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 1:12 PM >> To: Drew Smith; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com >> >> Hi Drew, >> >> This is a very narrow view of the purpose of the list, in my opinion. >> "*Topic:* A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information >> regarding the RootsMagic genealogy software program from RootsMagic." >> >> WebHints from MyHeritage is now a feature of RootsMagic which is useless >> without a subscription to MyHeritage. So a discussion about the RootsMagic >> WebHints feature cannot be separated from the question of the subscription. >> If somebody asks, "is it worthwhile upgrading to RM7?", how can it be >> answered without touching on the cost and benefits of a MyHeritage >> subscription? >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Drew Smith via < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Apparently I'm overdue in making my annual welcome to the >> > RootsMagic-Users list. >> > >> > In place of that, I will make the unfortunately necessary reminder >> > that this list exists to discuss *RootsMagic*, and this list does >> > *not* exist to discuss whether or not someone should or should not >> > subscribe to MyHeritage. >> > >> > Now that you've all been reminded, I can expect this list to get back >> > to the purpose of its existence. >> > >> > Happy New Year! >> > >> > Drew Smith >> > RootsMagic-Users List Administrator >> > >> > >> > =================================== >> > RM list Archives: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > Ron Bernier, > Woonsocket, RI > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/12/2015 11:16:19
    1. Re: [RMagic] Import to RM7 and Living Persons
    2. Tom Holden via
    3. I suspect you will find that those are the names in the GEDCOM. However it was created, the originator suppressed info about living persons. Tom On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Darcy Drews via < [email protected]> wrote: > I recently purchased RM7. I don't know if I did something wrong in my > GEDCOM import to RM7. All my living persons, including me, show up in my > RM7 tree as "Living SURNAME". When I open a record, everything is blank. > Did I do something horribly wrong? I tried deleting the database from RM7, > re-importing a new GEDCOM and re-uploading the new GEDCOM to RM7, same > result. I specifically looked for an option about how to handle Living > Persons during the 2nd import and did not see anything. > > Your guidance is appreciated :) > > -- > *Darcy L. Drews* > [email protected] > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/12/2015 11:11:15
    1. Re: [RMagic] Making paragraphs 7.0.2.2
    2. Charlie Hoffpauir via
    3. On 1/11/2015 8:57 PM, James Payne via wrote: > When I look at the page "Book Options" which I have printed out to help I'm > not certain now how I got it :( I do see comments about paragraphs and I > have been playing about with the three suggestions to see what { can do > > What I am wanting is to know how I can include paragraphs where I actually > want to put them in > > * A book > > * A Report (especially in a Narrative Report) > > Jim > > > Jim, I haven't seen any other response to your question, so I'll take a try at it. I read your question two different ways: The comment under help has to do with how the "auto" script that RM generates in a narrative report is put together. It (at your choice) will include the sentences that RM generates for facts all in one paragraph, or will put each fact sentence into a new paragraph. I suggest that you try generating a sample "book" of only one or two people for which you have a lot of data (facts) on. Try both options, and see which one produces the "look" you prefer. The other possibility of what you are referring to is how to include a paragraph of your own composition within a book or report that RM generates. If that's what you mean, then it's a different reply. For that you have to use RM's publisher. Click the ADD button drop down arrow, and from the drop down list, select Other Reports, then scroll to Text Page and select that. You can then give the page a title (or not) and either type your paragraph directly into the box, or paste previously edited material in. With this, you are somewhat limited in where you can then place this paragraph. (Only 'between" chapters already set.) I hope this helps. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.hoffpauir http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir

    01/12/2015 11:04:47
    1. [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com
    2. Ron Bernier via
    3. Lynne, Drew is the list administrator, but fortunately he has nothing to do with RootsMagic (the product) administration. Unfortunately, there may be lurkers contemplating switching to RM and the list administrators attitude is enough to scare them off if they think the list is representative of RM customer service. On Monday, January 12, 2015, Lynne Roberts via < [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > Totally agree with you, Tom - and I'm unsettled by the statement that > equates to a fiat - that there is no further discussion - . Isn't that > attitude antithetical to the whole concept of an email list? Considering > the fact that Roots Magic had incorporated familysearch and My Heritage > inextricably into the program, it's difficult to understand why Roots Magic > administration isn't interested in permitting further discussion. I am > assuming that you are voicing the opinion of Roots Magic - is that > incorrect? > > Lynne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Holden via > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 1:12 PM > To: Drew Smith; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com > > Hi Drew, > > This is a very narrow view of the purpose of the list, in my opinion. > "*Topic:* A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information > regarding the RootsMagic genealogy software program from RootsMagic." > > WebHints from MyHeritage is now a feature of RootsMagic which is useless > without a subscription to MyHeritage. So a discussion about the RootsMagic > WebHints feature cannot be separated from the question of the subscription. > If somebody asks, "is it worthwhile upgrading to RM7?", how can it be > answered without touching on the cost and benefits of a MyHeritage > subscription? > > Regards, > > Tom > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Drew Smith via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Apparently I'm overdue in making my annual welcome to the > > RootsMagic-Users list. > > > > In place of that, I will make the unfortunately necessary reminder > > that this list exists to discuss *RootsMagic*, and this list does > > *not* exist to discuss whether or not someone should or should not > > subscribe to MyHeritage. > > > > Now that you've all been reminded, I can expect this list to get back > > to the purpose of its existence. > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > Drew Smith > > RootsMagic-Users List Administrator > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Ron Bernier, Woonsocket, RI

    01/12/2015 11:00:59
    1. [RMagic] Import to RM7 and Living Persons
    2. Darcy Drews via
    3. I recently purchased RM7. I don't know if I did something wrong in my GEDCOM import to RM7. All my living persons, including me, show up in my RM7 tree as "Living SURNAME". When I open a record, everything is blank. Did I do something horribly wrong? I tried deleting the database from RM7, re-importing a new GEDCOM and re-uploading the new GEDCOM to RM7, same result. I specifically looked for an option about how to handle Living Persons during the 2nd import and did not see anything. Your guidance is appreciated :) -- *Darcy L. Drews* [email protected]

    01/12/2015 10:50:54
    1. Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com
    2. Charles Apple via
    3. The list Administrators Unwavering Gestapo Tactics, and narrow perspective of reality, as it concerns RootsMagic and its features, gives me no alternative but to unsubscribe from this Users Group. Charles -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Drew Smith via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Tom Holden <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a very narrow view of the purpose of the list, in my opinion. Whether or not it is a very narrow view, as it happens it is the only view that actually counts here. And discussing what is or is not on topic for this list is not up for debate on this list. > WebHints from MyHeritage is now a feature of RootsMagic which is > useless without a subscription to MyHeritage. So a discussion about > the RootsMagic WebHints feature cannot be separated from the question of the subscription. > If somebody asks, "is it worthwhile upgrading to RM7?", how can it be > answered without touching on the cost and benefits of a MyHeritage > subscription? By answering "One new feature of RM7 is to provide WebHints if you have a subscription to MyHeritage. However, discussing whether or not one should have a subscription to MyHeritage is off-topic for this list.". Just as we do not discuss whether or not one should participate in the shared tree on FamilySearch (despite the fact that RootsMagic can synchronize with such a tree), we do not discuss whether or not one should have a subscription to MyHeritage. Clear now? Drew =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/12/2015 10:36:54
    1. [RMagic] Rootsmagic and the Rootsmagic mail list.
    2. Charlie Hoffpauir via
    3. Some information and a few comments..... Rootsmagic is a for profit program, produced by a for-profit company, Rootsmagic, Inc. The Rootsmagic mail list is maintained by Rootsweb, a completely different and independent (of Rootsmagic) organization. Neither organization has "any" control over what the other organization does. The Rootsmagic mail list adheres to the strict requirements of Rootsweb. Rootsweb places complete control of the mail list into the hands of the mail list administrator...... but doesn't allow commercial content (several years ago an administrator of a list I subscribed to was booted out for touting items that he had for sale). What it boils down to is that Drew is the Rootsmagic administrator, and as such has complete control over the content. If he chooses he can control what any individual subscriber can post.... but so far as I know he doesn't do that. He can also control who is allowed to subscribe, but again, so far as I know he doesn't do that. One thing one should NEVER do is to post *to the list* a comment suggesting what the administrator should or should not do. Instead, one should direct such comments directly to the administrator.... he has in the past been readily willing to debate such issues "off-list". -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.hoffpauir http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir

    01/12/2015 10:20:05
    1. Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com
    2. Drew Smith via
    3. On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Tom Holden <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a very narrow view of the purpose of the list, in my opinion. Whether or not it is a very narrow view, as it happens it is the only view that actually counts here. And discussing what is or is not on topic for this list is not up for debate on this list. > WebHints from MyHeritage is now a feature of RootsMagic which is useless > without a subscription to MyHeritage. So a discussion about the RootsMagic > WebHints feature cannot be separated from the question of the subscription. > If somebody asks, "is it worthwhile upgrading to RM7?", how can it be > answered without touching on the cost and benefits of a MyHeritage > subscription? By answering "One new feature of RM7 is to provide WebHints if you have a subscription to MyHeritage. However, discussing whether or not one should have a subscription to MyHeritage is off-topic for this list.". Just as we do not discuss whether or not one should participate in the shared tree on FamilySearch (despite the fact that RootsMagic can synchronize with such a tree), we do not discuss whether or not one should have a subscription to MyHeritage. Clear now? Drew

    01/12/2015 09:28:33
    1. Re: [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com
    2. Tom Holden via
    3. Hi Drew, This is a very narrow view of the purpose of the list, in my opinion. "*Topic:* A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information regarding the RootsMagic genealogy software program from RootsMagic." WebHints from MyHeritage is now a feature of RootsMagic which is useless without a subscription to MyHeritage. So a discussion about the RootsMagic WebHints feature cannot be separated from the question of the subscription. If somebody asks, "is it worthwhile upgrading to RM7?", how can it be answered without touching on the cost and benefits of a MyHeritage subscription? Regards, Tom On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Drew Smith via < [email protected]> wrote: > Apparently I'm overdue in making my annual welcome to the RootsMagic-Users > list. > > In place of that, I will make the unfortunately necessary reminder > that this list exists to discuss *RootsMagic*, and this list does > *not* exist to discuss whether or not someone should or should not > subscribe to MyHeritage. > > Now that you've all been reminded, I can expect this list to get back > to the purpose of its existence. > > Happy New Year! > > Drew Smith > RootsMagic-Users List Administrator > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/12/2015 09:11:31
    1. Re: [RMagic] Named Groups--Dynamic vs Static
    2. Tom Holden via
    3. There has been a longstanding series of "wishes" along these lines. I think the consensus arrived at in the past has been for: - storing the rules, criteria and other steps involved in arriving at the set of people in a named group as a macro - adding a "Refresh" control to cause the macro to be re-executed The term "dynamic" with its implications overstates the objective and there is concern that automatic "refreshing" with every change in the database could very easily cause an adverse performance hit, especially on larger databases. Thus a user-controlled, manual refresh is the necessary and sufficient solution. Tom On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Dan Wych via <[email protected] > wrote: > > While the ability to repeat a search might be helpful, I absolutely do > not > want a "dynamic" named group which would change without my involvement. > Dan > > On 1/12/2015 8:53 AM, Ted Meikle via wrote: > > I am excited that some attention was paid to Named Groups in RM7. > > However, unless I am missing something, there is a feature that could > make them much more elegant and useful. > > Currently, all named groups are static. > > For example, assume I create a new group, then click Mark Group/Select > People by Data Group, then create a search for First Name equals Joe, > and then name the group People Named Joe. > > Afterwards, if a add a new person named Joe, the Data Group will not > include him, because it is static. > > Moreover, if I go back to Edit that group, it does not save the search I > used to create the group in the first place, so I cannot easily update > the Group without re-creating the search. Instead, it shows the last > search I did. > > Some uses of Named Groups created by searches need to remain static; > some only work if they automatically update to include new persons who > meet the criteria of the search. > > Examples of where a dynamic Named Group would be useful: > > A group of all people color-coded a certain color. > A group of all people matched to FamilySearch persons. > > It would be wonderful if one could specify with a checkbox whether a > Named Group created by a search should by Dynamic or Static. If Static, > it would behave as Named Groups now do (except it would save the search > used). If Dynamic, it would save the search criteria, and automatically > rerun the search when the Named Group is opened, showing all people who > currently meet the criteria. > > Or, at least, if the above is not determined to be worth the development > effort, change the current static Named Groups so that if a group is > created by a search, the search is saved with the Named Group so the > group can easily be updated without having to re-create the search. > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: [1] > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > [2]http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: [3]http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: [4] > http://blog.rootsmagi > c.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [5]ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-reque > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject a > nd the body of the message > > References > > 1. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > 2. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > 3. http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ > 4. http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > 5. mailto:[email protected] > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/12/2015 09:02:26
    1. [RMagic] Making paragraphs 7.0.2.2
    2. James Payne via
    3. When I look at the page "Book Options" which I have printed out to help I'm not certain now how I got it :( I do see comments about paragraphs and I have been playing about with the three suggestions to see what { can do What I am wanting is to know how I can include paragraphs where I actually want to put them in * A book * A Report (especially in a Narrative Report) Jim

    01/12/2015 08:57:32
    1. [RMagic] [ADMIN] Re: Myheritage.com
    2. Drew Smith via
    3. Apparently I'm overdue in making my annual welcome to the RootsMagic-Users list. In place of that, I will make the unfortunately necessary reminder that this list exists to discuss *RootsMagic*, and this list does *not* exist to discuss whether or not someone should or should not subscribe to MyHeritage. Now that you've all been reminded, I can expect this list to get back to the purpose of its existence. Happy New Year! Drew Smith RootsMagic-Users List Administrator

    01/12/2015 08:44:43
    1. Re: [RMagic] Named Groups--Dynamic vs Static
    2. Dan Wych via
    3. While the ability to repeat a search might be helpful, I absolutely do not want a "dynamic" named group which would change without my involvement. Dan On 1/12/2015 8:53 AM, Ted Meikle via wrote: I am excited that some attention was paid to Named Groups in RM7. However, unless I am missing something, there is a feature that could make them much more elegant and useful. Currently, all named groups are static. For example, assume I create a new group, then click Mark Group/Select People by Data Group, then create a search for First Name equals Joe, and then name the group People Named Joe. Afterwards, if a add a new person named Joe, the Data Group will not include him, because it is static. Moreover, if I go back to Edit that group, it does not save the search I used to create the group in the first place, so I cannot easily update the Group without re-creating the search. Instead, it shows the last search I did. Some uses of Named Groups created by searches need to remain static; some only work if they automatically update to include new persons who meet the criteria of the search. Examples of where a dynamic Named Group would be useful: A group of all people color-coded a certain color. A group of all people matched to FamilySearch persons. It would be wonderful if one could specify with a checkbox whether a Named Group created by a search should by Dynamic or Static. If Static, it would behave as Named Groups now do (except it would save the search used). If Dynamic, it would save the search criteria, and automatically rerun the search when the Named Group is opened, showing all people who currently meet the criteria. Or, at least, if the above is not determined to be worth the development effort, change the current static Named Groups so that if a group is created by a search, the search is saved with the Named Group so the group can easily be updated without having to re-create the search. =================================== RM list Archives: [1]http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ [2]http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: [3]http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: [4]http://blog.rootsmagi c.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]ROOTSMAGIC-USERS-reque [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject a nd the body of the message References 1. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ 2. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS 3. http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ 4. http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ 5. mailto:[email protected]

    01/12/2015 08:20:38