You just made the simple statement KISS. Why complicate life which already has a learning curve of it's own. Em -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynne Roberts via Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:50 PM To: 'Lou Love'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] Famalies are getting complicated Me, too. I don't get why so many Roots Magic users seem to feel compelled to have such a variety of facts and other features that express such details - complex details built into the program. To me, the single advantage of Roots Magic has been the simplicity of using it. I'm in this to do family history research - not to be a computer programmer and data entry clerk. I see Roots Magic as a tool to organize and simplify my genealogical research - I provide the detail in notes or comments - I don't want detail in the program. In fact, it has always seemed clear to me that the great advantage of Roots Magic is that it was developed by someone who did genealogy and also saw it as a tool to aid the research - not an end in itself. Being simple and still effective is the great quality of RM - something Ancestry and Legacy could learn. Simple is golden - and the hardest thing of all to achieve. And it seems to me that remaining simple and intuitive are the qualities at greatest risk in the future. Lynne Lynne Roberts Roseville, CA http://www.lynnesgenealogy.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lou Love via Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 10:24 AM To: James Shaw; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] Famalies are getting complicated That's the kind of info I put in the marriage Notes. Love, Lou Louis E. Love, O.D. ________________________________ From: James Shaw via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:09 AM Subject: [RMagic] Famalies are getting complicated I seek to make a distinction between: . "I know from some source that there was a marriage, but I have no information about it", (blank marriage fact, source noted?) . "I'm not sure there was a marriage but I'm giving the parents the benefit of the doubt", (blank marriage fact, no source note, but a clarification Note?) and . "I definitely know that there was not a legal marriage (including common law), I'm just documenting DNA heritage" for medical history reasons. This covers liberal parents (no marriage fact)and/or rape cases. (newly designed rape fact?), . Surrogacy, etc. I'm not seeing provision for these fact types in R7. Perhaps a Note at the Family level? Thoughts? Jim Shaw =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can put notes on the tree, I think, but think before you do, and be tactful. Information that seems critical to you could be perceived by them as messing with their tree. For instance, I keep online databases about all McKinstry families I have information about, as recently as I have information about them. I'll find notes added informing me that thus and such a person did a whole bunch of stuff in 1900, and I'm like, why. Then I often delete it. And don't use that feature to argue with people. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Trae Myers via Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:38 PM To: Emery St Cyr ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] contacting owners of family trees posted That may be a better question to ask ancestry.com. This board is unaffiliated with them and is not equipped to answer questions for them. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Emery St Cyr via > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello listers > > > > I have recently found two different people on ancestry that had trees > which > were members of my family. They had some information missing (unavailable) > that I have and would be glad to share with them but I don't know how to > get > in touch with them. > > > > Any help will be gratefully appreciated. > > Em > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

You have to contact them through the ancestry system; they can't let you know their e-mail address even if they want to. If you're lucky they'll both log in this year and look at their contacts. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Emery St Cyr via Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RMagic] contacting owners of family trees posted Hello listers I have recently found two different people on ancestry that had trees which were members of my family. They had some information missing (unavailable) that I have and would be glad to share with them but I don't know how to get in touch with them. Any help will be gratefully appreciated. Em =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

You know there's a notes field, right? There are separate notes fields for marriage and for the person overall. You can write notes about anything including information and evaluations of the quality of your sources that wouldn't fit in the source fields. If someone told you there was a marriage and that is all you know, you can cite that person and the conversation as your source. Should be a source template for that. I put all my notes and all my sources, stories and whatever else in the general notes field. I don't bother with the others. Dora -----Original Message----- From: James Shaw via Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [RMagic] Famalies are getting complicated I seek to make a distinction between: . "I know from some source that there was a marriage, but I have no information about it", (blank marriage fact, source noted?) . "I'm not sure there was a marriage but I'm giving the parents the benefit of the doubt", (blank marriage fact, no source note, but a clarification Note?) and . "I definitely know that there was not a legal marriage (including common law), I'm just documenting DNA heritage" for medical history reasons. This covers liberal parents (no marriage fact)and/or rape cases. (newly designed rape fact?), . Surrogacy, etc. I'm not seeing provision for these fact types in R7. Perhaps a Note at the Family level? Thoughts? Jim Shaw =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

That may be a better question to ask ancestry.com. This board is unaffiliated with them and is not equipped to answer questions for them. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Emery St Cyr via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello listers > > > > I have recently found two different people on ancestry that had trees which > were members of my family. They had some information missing (unavailable) > that I have and would be glad to share with them but I don't know how to get > in touch with them. > > > > Any help will be gratefully appreciated. > > Em > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I seek to make a distinction between: . "I know from some source that there was a marriage, but I have no information about it", (blank marriage fact, source noted?) . "I'm not sure there was a marriage but I'm giving the parents the benefit of the doubt", (blank marriage fact, no source note, but a clarification Note?) and . "I definitely know that there was not a legal marriage (including common law), I'm just documenting DNA heritage" for medical history reasons. This covers liberal parents (no marriage fact)and/or rape cases. (newly designed rape fact?), . Surrogacy, etc. I'm not seeing provision for these fact types in R7. Perhaps a Note at the Family level? Thoughts? Jim Shaw

Easy - look at the top of the web page of the family tree - you'll find a tab labeled "Owner" with a silhouette and then a username - click on that - it will take you to the owner's info and the ability to contact them - click on the the key labeled contact and you'll be able to email them. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emery St Cyr via Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [RMagic] contacting owners of family trees posted Hello listers I have recently found two different people on ancestry that had trees which were members of my family. They had some information missing (unavailable) that I have and would be glad to share with them but I don't know how to get in touch with them. Any help will be gratefully appreciated. Em =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Me, too. I don't get why so many Roots Magic users seem to feel compelled to have such a variety of facts and other features that express such details - complex details built into the program. To me, the single advantage of Roots Magic has been the simplicity of using it. I'm in this to do family history research - not to be a computer programmer and data entry clerk. I see Roots Magic as a tool to organize and simplify my genealogical research - I provide the detail in notes or comments - I don't want detail in the program. In fact, it has always seemed clear to me that the great advantage of Roots Magic is that it was developed by someone who did genealogy and also saw it as a tool to aid the research - not an end in itself. Being simple and still effective is the great quality of RM - something Ancestry and Legacy could learn. Simple is golden - and the hardest thing of all to achieve. And it seems to me that remaining simple and intuitive are the qualities at greatest risk in the future. Lynne Lynne Roberts Roseville, CA http://www.lynnesgenealogy.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lou Love via Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 10:24 AM To: James Shaw; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] Famalies are getting complicated That's the kind of info I put in the marriage Notes. Love, Lou Louis E. Love, O.D. ________________________________ From: James Shaw via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:09 AM Subject: [RMagic] Famalies are getting complicated I seek to make a distinction between: . "I know from some source that there was a marriage, but I have no information about it", (blank marriage fact, source noted?) . "I'm not sure there was a marriage but I'm giving the parents the benefit of the doubt", (blank marriage fact, no source note, but a clarification Note?) and . "I definitely know that there was not a legal marriage (including common law), I'm just documenting DNA heritage" for medical history reasons. This covers liberal parents (no marriage fact)and/or rape cases. (newly designed rape fact?), . Surrogacy, etc. I'm not seeing provision for these fact types in R7. Perhaps a Note at the Family level? Thoughts? Jim Shaw =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's the kind of info I put in the marriage Notes. Love, Lou Louis E. Love, O.D. ________________________________ From: James Shaw via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:09 AM Subject: [RMagic] Famalies are getting complicated I seek to make a distinction between: . "I know from some source that there was a marriage, but I have no information about it", (blank marriage fact, source noted?) . "I'm not sure there was a marriage but I'm giving the parents the benefit of the doubt", (blank marriage fact, no source note, but a clarification Note?) and . "I definitely know that there was not a legal marriage (including common law), I'm just documenting DNA heritage" for medical history reasons. This covers liberal parents (no marriage fact)and/or rape cases. (newly designed rape fact?), . Surrogacy, etc. I'm not seeing provision for these fact types in R7. Perhaps a Note at the Family level? Thoughts? Jim Shaw =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 1/23/2015 1:45 AM, Lynne Roberts via wrote: > Thank you for that thorough and understandable comparison of the three > styles available for web pages - I have wondered about that ever since I > loaded my RM7 update. I use the pre-RM6 for my web site - and I use both > the family group sheets/pedigree style and the descendent narrative along > with added articles and pictures. And I have a commercially hosted url (I > Page). My concern is that now that RM seems to be migrating to their own > web space, that down the line they will stop supporting this static HTML > style. That would be fatal to me and others like me who use it and would > force us to find another software program. > > Lynne Lynne, I doubt that RM will ever eliminate that feature, but even it they did, one doesn't really need the Pre-RM6 web page creation to generate a web page if you like the Static page type. RM can generate everything that goes into the web page by existing reports. I've never used the Pre-RM6 page generation, but I've had a Static page up on Rootsweb since the days of Family Origins (It's the third link in my sig, below) and it's still the page most visited by people looking for Hoffpauir information. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://sites.rootsmagic.com/CharlieHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir

Go to the edit screen on the child. Click on the parents listed. Select from the adopted for each parent. Birth if one is natural parent. Jon On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:34 PM, James Shaw via < [email protected]> wrote: > When I add a child to a family, the relation for the child is set to > 'birth' > which I assume that the child is related 'by birth' to the parents. I have > a case where the child is related to the parents 'by adoption' and I have > used the Adoption fact to document this. However R7 still reports the > child's relation is 'birth'. The adoption fact is the only fact recorded > for this child. > > > > What's the story here? > > > > Jim Shaw > > > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Thank you for that thorough and understandable comparison of the three styles available for web pages - I have wondered about that ever since I loaded my RM7 update. I use the pre-RM6 for my web site - and I use both the family group sheets/pedigree style and the descendent narrative along with added articles and pictures. And I have a commercially hosted url (I Page). My concern is that now that RM seems to be migrating to their own web space, that down the line they will stop supporting this static HTML style. That would be fatal to me and others like me who use it and would force us to find another software program. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Bryan via Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM To: [email protected] >> RootsMagic Subject: Re: [RMagic] The new "MyRootsMagic" webpage for RM7 On 1/22/2015 1:57 PM, David E. Cann via wrote: > > On a side but related note, what is the difference in a few words > between the "Pre-RootsMagic 6" option and the "RootsMagic 6" option in > creating a webpage with RM7? There are really three different options available: pre-RM6, RM6, and RM7. The pre-RM6 web pages are static HTML. A bunch of different kinds of Web pages are available: Family Group Sheets, Pedigree Charts, Pedigree Charts with group sheets, Ancestor Book, Descendant book, and Alphabetical book. You can do things like preview these pages on your hard disk, burn these pages to CD's to share with family members, and upload these pages to a Web site. But you are totally responsible for providing the Web site. You cannot use the free space provided by RootsMagic for these Web pages.If you upload these static Web pages to your own Web page or pages, they typically can be discovered by anybody who does a Google search. RM6 introduced a limited amount of disk space provided free by RootsMagic whereby you can create web pages from RootsMagic and RootsMagic will host them for you. The RM6 Web pages are not HTML at all. Rather, the web pages you see on the screen are generated dynamically at the time they are viewed. Unless you are pretty much into making Web pages, the difference between static HTML and dynamically created Web pages may be difference without a distinction. But the RM6 Web pages cannot be discovered by doing a Google search. Also, the RM6 Web pages have a very different look and feel than the pre-RM6 static HTML pages. Some people might prefer look and feel of the pre_RM6 pages and other people might prefer the look and feel of the RM6 pages. The RM6 Web pages can be previewed on your hard disk, burned to CD's to share with family members, uploaded to the free RootsMagic Web site, and uploaded to your own Web site. If you privatize RM6 Web pages (tell it not to display living people), the privatized data does not become a part of the data that is uploaded anywhere. By the way, the pre-RM6 Web pages still work in RM6 just like they did before. RM7 supports both the pre-RM6 Web pages and the RM6 style Web pages, in addition to supporting the new RM7 style Web pages. You can still do anything with the pre-RM6 Web pages that you could do before. You can still do most of the things with the RM6 Web pages that you could do before. However, the RM6 style Web pages can no longer be uploaded to the space provided for you for free by RootsMagic. If you want RM6 style Web pages to appear on the Web, you have to provide your own Web site. RM7 style Web pages have very much the same look and feel as do the RM6 Web pages, but the underlying technology is very different. On the positive side of things, RM7 style Web pages can be discovered by anybody who does a Google search. On the negative side of things, RM7 style Web pages cannot be previewed on your hard disk, they cannot be burned to CD's to be shared with family members, and data for privatized individuals is uploaded to you free RootsMagic Web pages but the pages are not displayed (or they are not displayed unless you have possession of a password). This latter point has generated some controversy about whether the security of the privatized data is good enough or not. I only use the pre-RM6 Web pages, so I'm a little fuzzy on one key point. I can't remember if RM7 Web pages can be uploaded to your own Web site, or if they can only be uploaded to the free space provided by RootsMagic. Jerry =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You do not upload RM7 Web Pages to MyRootsMagic.com. The entire database is uploaded to the server which runs PHP scripts or whatever with a data connection to your uploaded .rmgc file in order to generate web pages on-the-fly as demanded by a browser. So you cannot upload RM7 web pages to another host because your RootsMagic software does not generate any (or, if it does, it is only the home page). Tom On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Jerry Bryan via < [email protected]> wrote: > > On 1/22/2015 1:57 PM, David E. Cann via wrote: > > > > > On a side but related note, what is the difference in a few words between > > the "Pre-RootsMagic 6" option and the "RootsMagic 6" option in creating a > > webpage with RM7? > > There are really three different options available: pre-RM6, RM6, and RM7. > > The pre-RM6 web pages are static HTML. A bunch of different kinds of Web > pages are available: Family Group Sheets, Pedigree Charts, Pedigree Charts > with group sheets, Ancestor Book, Descendant book, and Alphabetical book. > You can do things like preview these pages on your hard disk, burn these > pages to CD's to share with family members, and upload these pages to a Web > site. But you are totally responsible for providing the Web site. You > cannot > use the free space provided by RootsMagic for these Web pages.If you upload > these static Web pages to your own Web page or pages, they typically can be > discovered by anybody who does a Google search. > > RM6 introduced a limited amount of disk space provided free by RootsMagic > whereby you can create web pages from RootsMagic and RootsMagic will host > them for you. The RM6 Web pages are not HTML at all. Rather, the web pages > you see on the screen are generated dynamically at the time they are > viewed. > Unless you are pretty much into making Web pages, the difference between > static HTML and dynamically created Web pages may be difference without a > distinction. But the RM6 Web pages cannot be discovered by doing a Google > search. Also, the RM6 Web pages have a very different look and feel than > the > pre-RM6 static HTML pages. Some people might prefer look and feel of the > pre_RM6 pages and other people might prefer the look and feel of the RM6 > pages. The RM6 Web pages can be previewed on your hard disk, burned to CD's > to share with family members, uploaded to the free RootsMagic Web site, and > uploaded to your own Web site. If you privatize RM6 Web pages (tell it not > to display living people), the privatized data does not become a part of > the > data that is uploaded anywhere. By the way, the pre-RM6 Web pages still > work > in RM6 just like they did before. > > RM7 supports both the pre-RM6 Web pages and the RM6 style Web pages, in > addition to supporting the new RM7 style Web pages. You can still do > anything with the pre-RM6 Web pages that you could do before. You can still > do most of the things with the RM6 Web pages that you could do before. > However, the RM6 style Web pages can no longer be uploaded to the space > provided for you for free by RootsMagic. If you want RM6 style Web pages to > appear on the Web, you have to provide your own Web site. RM7 style Web > pages have very much the same look and feel as do the RM6 Web pages, but > the > underlying technology is very different. On the positive side of things, > RM7 > style Web pages can be discovered by anybody who does a Google search. On > the negative side of things, RM7 style Web pages cannot be previewed on > your > hard disk, they cannot be burned to CD's to be shared with family members, > and data for privatized individuals is uploaded to you free RootsMagic Web > pages but the pages are not displayed (or they are not displayed unless you > have possession of a password). This latter point has generated some > controversy about whether the security of the privatized data is good > enough > or not. I only use the pre-RM6 Web pages, so I'm a little fuzzy on one key > point. I can't remember if RM7 Web pages can be uploaded to your own Web > site, or if they can only be uploaded to the free space provided by > RootsMagic. > > Jerry > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 1/22/2015 1:57 PM, David E. Cann via wrote: > > On a side but related note, what is the difference in a few words between > the "Pre-RootsMagic 6" option and the "RootsMagic 6" option in creating a > webpage with RM7? There are really three different options available: pre-RM6, RM6, and RM7. The pre-RM6 web pages are static HTML. A bunch of different kinds of Web pages are available: Family Group Sheets, Pedigree Charts, Pedigree Charts with group sheets, Ancestor Book, Descendant book, and Alphabetical book. You can do things like preview these pages on your hard disk, burn these pages to CD's to share with family members, and upload these pages to a Web site. But you are totally responsible for providing the Web site. You cannot use the free space provided by RootsMagic for these Web pages.If you upload these static Web pages to your own Web page or pages, they typically can be discovered by anybody who does a Google search. RM6 introduced a limited amount of disk space provided free by RootsMagic whereby you can create web pages from RootsMagic and RootsMagic will host them for you. The RM6 Web pages are not HTML at all. Rather, the web pages you see on the screen are generated dynamically at the time they are viewed. Unless you are pretty much into making Web pages, the difference between static HTML and dynamically created Web pages may be difference without a distinction. But the RM6 Web pages cannot be discovered by doing a Google search. Also, the RM6 Web pages have a very different look and feel than the pre-RM6 static HTML pages. Some people might prefer look and feel of the pre_RM6 pages and other people might prefer the look and feel of the RM6 pages. The RM6 Web pages can be previewed on your hard disk, burned to CD's to share with family members, uploaded to the free RootsMagic Web site, and uploaded to your own Web site. If you privatize RM6 Web pages (tell it not to display living people), the privatized data does not become a part of the data that is uploaded anywhere. By the way, the pre-RM6 Web pages still work in RM6 just like they did before. RM7 supports both the pre-RM6 Web pages and the RM6 style Web pages, in addition to supporting the new RM7 style Web pages. You can still do anything with the pre-RM6 Web pages that you could do before. You can still do most of the things with the RM6 Web pages that you could do before. However, the RM6 style Web pages can no longer be uploaded to the space provided for you for free by RootsMagic. If you want RM6 style Web pages to appear on the Web, you have to provide your own Web site. RM7 style Web pages have very much the same look and feel as do the RM6 Web pages, but the underlying technology is very different. On the positive side of things, RM7 style Web pages can be discovered by anybody who does a Google search. On the negative side of things, RM7 style Web pages cannot be previewed on your hard disk, they cannot be burned to CD's to be shared with family members, and data for privatized individuals is uploaded to you free RootsMagic Web pages but the pages are not displayed (or they are not displayed unless you have possession of a password). This latter point has generated some controversy about whether the security of the privatized data is good enough or not. I only use the pre-RM6 Web pages, so I'm a little fuzzy on one key point. I can't remember if RM7 Web pages can be uploaded to your own Web site, or if they can only be uploaded to the free space provided by RootsMagic. Jerry

I keep the last information from each of the previous versions also. I create a directory similar to you - Rootsmagic5, Rootsmagic6, Rootsmagic7. Under each one I create some sub-folders for the program's use - - Backups (I keep a copy in the RM directory as well as elsewhere) - Gedcoms (for various gedcoms I prepare for others) - Reports (the default for any reports I save) - Database (where any databases reside) - Web (where I save any websites I create) And a few others I keep my source and family files (vital records, census, scanned book pages, etc) elsewhere in another file structure, not in the RM directories, so that as I upgrade RM I don't have to move them, which would cause bad links and I'd have to clean that up. When I upgraded to 7, I created a RM7 directory and installed it there. Then I created the sub-folders. Then I COPIED my current zuber.rmgc file from the RM6/Database folder into the RM7/Database folder. Once I opened this new file in RM7, I updated the program and file properties to make sure they point at the new directories and not at the old RM6 directories and that it has all the settings I like. So now I have my RM6 data as of the last time I updated it still residing in my RM6 folder. And I have a new copy of it that I can now open and continue updating in RM7. I know some people would say this is overkill but it's the way that seems most comfortable to me. I'm always hesitant about totally converting a file until I've worked with an upgrade (any program, not just RM) so this way if something goes wrong I can easily go back to my last RM6 file and keep working with that. Cheri Zuber http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~zuber/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MScheffler via Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RMagic] Upgrading to RM7 Is there a way to upgrade from RM6 to 7 in such a way that I do NOT lose my spell dictionary and my "not a problem " lists? It is so frustrating to lose these with every upgrade. RM 6 is installed in C:\Rootsmagic6 and my data is in C:\RM6data. Where should I install version 7 to make this happen? I usually keep all my old versions, but guess I don't have to keep all. I do not plan to compare my database with FamilySearch or any other large database. I am assuming I can turn this feature off. I also do not want to have the program make changes to the way I have entered places. Can that feature also be turned off? Margaret Scheffler =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 1/22/2015 1:57 PM, David E. Cann via wrote: > Can anyone out there kindly send me a link for his/her shiny new webpage on > the My RootsMagic sites that now come with RM7 please? I've just created > the new account and am very seriously thinking about putting a new page on > it, but would like to take a look at one in place before taking up some of > Bruce's server space. Thanks. > > On a side but related note, what is the difference in a few words between > the "Pre-RootsMagic 6" option and the "RootsMagic 6" option in creating a > webpage with RM7? RM7 is the 15th version (including the old FO) I have > used, but the website I created with RM6 and uploaded myself can now only be > created using RM7's "PRE-RootsMagic 6" option. I've finally figured this > out, but not without some confusion because I do not recall any RM6 webpage > that was any different that one from RM5, but am I missing something? > > I understand now that the so-called RM6 version is not HTML but something > else, so after creating one I deleted it until I learn something about it, > but I cannot believe that I missed this option entirely for the couple of > years that I used version 6 if such is the case. I would appreciate hearing > from someone who can explain it to me. I was fortunate to have exchanged a > couple of emails on the subject with Bruce not long ago, and I think I left > him a little peeved with me trying to explain this, so if anyone replies > please don't assume that I know anything on this specific feature because I > clearly and obviously do not. :-( > > > David E. Cann > [email protected] > and the body of the message David, I haven't seen anyone else reply to your questions, so I'll give it a try. The RM6 version creates HTML files that you can view on your computer, the RM7 version does not. I don't know what RM7 does, but it does it quickly and they look pretty good. The Pre RM6 (RM5?) is different in that it produces various pages or FGS sheets or books. Not the pedigree view that you can scroll around in like RM6 or RM7. Both the RM6 and RM7 pages look pretty much the same when viewed on the web. The main difference I've noticed is that the indexing is much neater in RM7. To get a quick look at the two check out these sites: http://my.rootsmagic.com/Hoffpauir/ For my old site created with RM6 http://sites.rootsmagic.com/CharlieHoffpauir/ for my new site created with RM7 Unfortunately, I never used RM5 or earlier web site creation tools. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.hoffpauir http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir

Is there a way to upgrade from RM6 to 7 in such a way that I do NOT lose my spell dictionary and my "not a problem " lists? It is so frustrating to lose these with every upgrade. RM 6 is installed in C:\Rootsmagic6 and my data is in C:\RM6data. Where should I install version 7 to make this happen? I usually keep all my old versions, but guess I don't have to keep all. I do not plan to compare my database with FamilySearch or any other large database. I am assuming I can turn this feature off. I also do not want to have the program make changes to the way I have entered places. Can that feature also be turned off? Margaret Scheffler

And although Bruce didn't mention it, yes, you can turn off FamilySearch and/or MyHeritage web hints. To keep RM from changing your places uncheck the bok "Use CountyCheck when entering places" under program Options - General. On 1/22/2015 4:36 PM, RootsMagic via wrote: > The not a problem list is stored in the database, so you will never lose > that. Your spell check dictionary can be copied from the older version to > the newer one like this: > > http://support.rootsmagic.com/entries/20752128-How-do-I-move-my-Dictionary-from-RM4-to-RM5- > > You can ignore the RM4 to RM5 stuff... it's the same for any of the > versions 4 and later. > > - Bruce > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:27 PM, MScheffler via < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Is there a way to upgrade from RM6 to 7 in such a way that I do NOT >> lose >> my spell dictionary and my "not a problem " lists? It is so frustrating to >> lose these with every upgrade. >> >> RM 6 is installed in C:\Rootsmagic6 and my data is in C:\RM6data. >> Where >> should I install version 7 to make this happen? I usually keep all my old >> versions, but guess I don't have to keep all. >> >> I do not plan to compare my database with FamilySearch or any other >> large database. I am assuming I can turn this feature off. I also do not >> want to have the program make changes to the way I have entered places. >> Can >> that feature also be turned off? >> >> Margaret Scheffler >> >> -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.hoffpauir http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir

When I add a child to a family, the relation for the child is set to 'birth' which I assume that the child is related 'by birth' to the parents. I have a case where the child is related to the parents 'by adoption' and I have used the Adoption fact to document this. However R7 still reports the child's relation is 'birth'. The adoption fact is the only fact recorded for this child. What's the story here? Jim Shaw

On 1/22/2015 3:34 PM, James Shaw via wrote: > When I add a child to a family, the relation for the child is set to 'birth' > which I assume that the child is related 'by birth' to the parents. I have > a case where the child is related to the parents 'by adoption' and I have > used the Adoption fact to document this. However R7 still reports the > child's relation is 'birth'. The adoption fact is the only fact recorded > for this child. > > > > What's the story here? > > > > Jim Shaw > > Jim, Click on the child, EDIT PERSON. In that screen, click on PARENTS In that screen set the correct relationships -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://my.rootsmagic.com/CRHoffpauir/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.hoffpauir http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Hoffpauir