I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription shows the following citation details: "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 January 2015), Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, Norfolk, England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't find anything that looked similar. Thanks. Cheers David

That comes fairly close to the way FamilySearch tells you, at the bottom of the search results, to cite the record. I find that some of the records in a given database will have an image and some won't, so if there is an image, I put that in the "Item of Interest" box. If you want a separate source for every record you find, you could just copy the source info from FamilySearch and paste it into the "Free Form" template, I suppose. Carol Anne On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Carol Anne <[email protected]> wrote: > I use the Basic Ancestry Images Template and this is the result: > > Footnote: > "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, > FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ : accessed 18 January 2015), > entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New > Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. > Digital image. > > Short Footnote: > "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, > FamilySearch, entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing > Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm > 961,018. Digital image. > > Bibliography: > "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956." Index and images. > FamilySearch. https://familysearch.org/ : 2015. > > > I put all of this in the "Item of Interest" box "entry for John Grigg > and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey > State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. Digital image" > > That way, I can use "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956" for > other marriages in the database, but you could put it in "Credit Line" > if you want to create a separate source for every record. I just copy > and paste the info from FamilySearch and make a few changes. > > Carol Anne > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Lynne Roberts via > <[email protected]> wrote: >> In my personal opinion, there is no such source as "England Marriages" - the >> source is where all of those English marriage records came from - and >> usually there is a blurb noting where all of those records originated. I >> know that Ancestry is getting much better about that. It's important to >> know, because I only want information from government or church records - I >> do NOT want information provided by other genealogists. >> >> >> >> Lynne >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Jon Czarowitz [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:29 AM >> To: Lynne Roberts; rootsmagic-users >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch >> >> >> >> The source that FS has given here is ENGLAND MARRIAGES and the URL to that >> site. I would use Family Search as your source, but if the related quoted >> source is listed you show their source as well. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Lynne Roberts via >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> wrote: >> >> I sympathize - it took an act of Congress to convince Familysearch that >> Familysearch wasn't an acceptable source! You have to drill down - and at >> times I've had to make personal inquiries to determine the source of their >> information. Having the film # is helpful, but of course that's where you >> access it - it isn't the source. Start digging - and if you can't find it >> from the site, don't hesitate to email them for the information - but be >> sure that you retain all the information so you can relate it to them. >> >> Lynne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of David Finnigan >> via >> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:37 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch >> >> I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription shows the >> following citation details: >> >> >> >> "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch >> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 January 2015), >> Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, Norfolk, >> England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. >> >> >> >> Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't find >> anything that looked similar. Thanks. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC >> Hempel Genealogist since 1986 >> Retired International Genealogist for >> http://www.clancunninghamintl.org >> RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com >> CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! >> >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can also copy the source you created in RM and paste it to other sources. I did that for 17 Naval records fir my dad. Then I put details in citations for each along with date, ship location, an signing officer and date. The whole idea is that someone cand trace your fact to the original and verify. Documents, computers, storages can burn, abandon, shutdown in the blink of an eye. Without sources your work is gossip. On Jan 31, 2015 2:40 PM, "Carol Anne via" <[email protected]> wrote: > That comes fairly close to the way FamilySearch tells you, at the > bottom of the search results, to cite the record. I find that some of > the records in a given database will have an image and some won't, so > if there is an image, I put that in the "Item of Interest" box. > > If you want a separate source for every record you find, you could > just copy the source info from FamilySearch and paste it into the > "Free Form" template, I suppose. > > Carol Anne > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Carol Anne <[email protected]> wrote: > > I use the Basic Ancestry Images Template and this is the result: > > > > Footnote: > > "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, > > FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ : accessed 18 January 2015), > > entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New > > Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. > > Digital image. > > > > Short Footnote: > > "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, > > FamilySearch, entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing > > Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm > > 961,018. Digital image. > > > > Bibliography: > > "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956." Index and images. > > FamilySearch. https://familysearch.org/ : 2015. > > > > > > I put all of this in the "Item of Interest" box "entry for John Grigg > > and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey > > State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. Digital image" > > > > That way, I can use "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956" for > > other marriages in the database, but you could put it in "Credit Line" > > if you want to create a separate source for every record. I just copy > > and paste the info from FamilySearch and make a few changes. > > > > Carol Anne > > > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Lynne Roberts via > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In my personal opinion, there is no such source as "England Marriages" > - the > >> source is where all of those English marriage records came from - and > >> usually there is a blurb noting where all of those records originated. > I > >> know that Ancestry is getting much better about that. It's important to > >> know, because I only want information from government or church records > - I > >> do NOT want information provided by other genealogists. > >> > >> > >> > >> Lynne > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Jon Czarowitz [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:29 AM > >> To: Lynne Roberts; rootsmagic-users > >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch > >> > >> > >> > >> The source that FS has given here is ENGLAND MARRIAGES and the URL to > that > >> site. I would use Family Search as your source, but if the related > quoted > >> source is listed you show their source as well. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Lynne Roberts via > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > >> > >> I sympathize - it took an act of Congress to convince Familysearch that > >> Familysearch wasn't an acceptable source! You have to drill down - and > at > >> times I've had to make personal inquiries to determine the source of > their > >> information. Having the film # is helpful, but of course that's where > you > >> access it - it isn't the source. Start digging - and if you can't find > it > >> from the site, don't hesitate to email them for the information - but be > >> sure that you retain all the information so you can relate it to them. > >> > >> Lynne > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> [mailto:[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of David > Finnigan > >> via > >> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:37 PM > >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected] > > > >> Subject: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch > >> > >> I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription shows > the > >> following citation details: > >> > >> > >> > >> "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch > >> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 January > 2015), > >> Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, Norfolk, > >> England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. > >> > >> > >> > >> Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't find > >> anything that looked similar. Thanks. > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> David > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> with the word > 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> with the word > 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> -- > >> Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > >> Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > >> Retired International Genealogist for > >> http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > >> RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com > >> CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > >> > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Barbara - if the NEW Password / Pass-code you received with your purchase of RM7 doesn't work - you need to contact RM support and get some help. Good Hunting, Love, Lou ________________________________ From: BRCogburn via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:26 PM Subject: [RMagic] Problem Updating RM7 When I got the message about the new RM 7 version for update, I went to Help but it told me told me I was using the most current version 6.3.3.2. So I went to the Website and downloaded 7.0.4.0 from there. Since I have had the full registered versions for years, I chose to Unlock Version 7. The screen which comes up when I enter my name and registration number has the Unlock choice grayed out and is unclickable. When I cancel it RM Essential Version opens immediately. I need to know how to fix this problem so I can use the features in the new version. Barbara =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I use the Basic Ancestry Images Template and this is the result: Footnote: "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ : accessed 18 January 2015), entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. Digital image. Short Footnote: "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, FamilySearch, entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. Digital image. Bibliography: "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956." Index and images. FamilySearch. https://familysearch.org/ : 2015. I put all of this in the "Item of Interest" box "entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. Digital image" That way, I can use "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956" for other marriages in the database, but you could put it in "Credit Line" if you want to create a separate source for every record. I just copy and paste the info from FamilySearch and make a few changes. Carol Anne On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Lynne Roberts via <[email protected]> wrote: > In my personal opinion, there is no such source as "England Marriages" - the > source is where all of those English marriage records came from - and > usually there is a blurb noting where all of those records originated. I > know that Ancestry is getting much better about that. It's important to > know, because I only want information from government or church records - I > do NOT want information provided by other genealogists. > > > > Lynne > > > > > > From: Jon Czarowitz [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:29 AM > To: Lynne Roberts; rootsmagic-users > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch > > > > The source that FS has given here is ENGLAND MARRIAGES and the URL to that > site. I would use Family Search as your source, but if the related quoted > source is listed you show their source as well. > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Lynne Roberts via > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > wrote: > > I sympathize - it took an act of Congress to convince Familysearch that > Familysearch wasn't an acceptable source! You have to drill down - and at > times I've had to make personal inquiries to determine the source of their > information. Having the film # is helpful, but of course that's where you > access it - it isn't the source. Start digging - and if you can't find it > from the site, don't hesitate to email them for the information - but be > sure that you retain all the information so you can relate it to them. > > Lynne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of David Finnigan > via > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:37 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch > > I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription shows the > following citation details: > > > > "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 January 2015), > Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, Norfolk, > England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. > > > > Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't find > anything that looked similar. Thanks. > > > > Cheers > > David > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > Retired International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com > CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I got the message about the new RM 7 version for update, I went to Help but it told me told me I was using the most current version 6.3.3.2. So I went to the Website and downloaded 7.0.4.0 from there. Since I have had the full registered versions for years, I chose to Unlock Version 7. The screen which comes up when I enter my name and registration number has the Unlock choice grayed out and is unclickable. When I cancel it RM Essential Version opens immediately. I need to know how to fix this problem so I can use the features in the new version. Barbara

Amen! When I first started researching my family, I got a head start with a compiled genealogy produced by about three generations of my family going back from my grandmother. And they had records that seemed to suport it. I incorporated that genealogy into my new research. Eventually, in the search for full documentation I came to the realization that that long established genealogy was incorrect - a case of same name, right time, right location - a major coincidence, but but the wrong progenitor. It took me about 2 years to completely research and document a new genealogy for the Roberts line. And everyone who copied and pasted information off my website, off my family tree, and didn't do any research on their own, copied wrong information. So I know whereof I speak - and I am appalled at the number of people who continue to copy genealogy from someone else's tree. Just 'cause it's on the internet, doesn't make it so. Just 'cause it looks right in name, time and place, doesn't make it so, either. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kate Redford via Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:57 PM To: [email protected]; Carol Anne Subject: Re: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch You can also copy the source you created in RM and paste it to other sources. I did that for 17 Naval records fir my dad. Then I put details in citations for each along with date, ship location, an signing officer and date. The whole idea is that someone cand trace your fact to the original and verify. Documents, computers, storages can burn, abandon, shutdown in the blink of an eye. Without sources your work is gossip. On Jan 31, 2015 2:40 PM, "Carol Anne via" <[email protected]> wrote: > That comes fairly close to the way FamilySearch tells you, at the > bottom of the search results, to cite the record. I find that some of > the records in a given database will have an image and some won't, so > if there is an image, I put that in the "Item of Interest" box. > > If you want a separate source for every record you find, you could > just copy the source info from FamilySearch and paste it into the > "Free Form" template, I suppose. > > Carol Anne > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Carol Anne <[email protected]> wrote: > > I use the Basic Ancestry Images Template and this is the result: > > > > Footnote: > > "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, > > FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ : accessed 18 January 2015), > > entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New > > Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. > > Digital image. > > > > Short Footnote: > > "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, > > FamilySearch, entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; > > citing Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL > > microfilm 961,018. Digital image. > > > > Bibliography: > > "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956." Index and images. > > FamilySearch. https://familysearch.org/ : 2015. > > > > > > I put all of this in the "Item of Interest" box "entry for John > > Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New Jersey, New > > Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. Digital image" > > > > That way, I can use "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956" for > > other marriages in the database, but you could put it in "Credit Line" > > if you want to create a separate source for every record. I just > > copy and paste the info from FamilySearch and make a few changes. > > > > Carol Anne > > > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Lynne Roberts via > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In my personal opinion, there is no such source as "England Marriages" > - the > >> source is where all of those English marriage records came from - > >> and usually there is a blurb noting where all of those records originated. > I > >> know that Ancestry is getting much better about that. It's > >> important to know, because I only want information from government > >> or church records > - I > >> do NOT want information provided by other genealogists. > >> > >> > >> > >> Lynne > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Jon Czarowitz [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:29 AM > >> To: Lynne Roberts; rootsmagic-users > >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch > >> > >> > >> > >> The source that FS has given here is ENGLAND MARRIAGES and the URL > >> to > that > >> site. I would use Family Search as your source, but if the related > quoted > >> source is listed you show their source as well. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Lynne Roberts via > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > >> > >> I sympathize - it took an act of Congress to convince Familysearch > >> that Familysearch wasn't an acceptable source! You have to drill > >> down - and > at > >> times I've had to make personal inquiries to determine the source > >> of > their > >> information. Having the film # is helpful, but of course that's > >> where > you > >> access it - it isn't the source. Start digging - and if you can't > >> find > it > >> from the site, don't hesitate to email them for the information - > >> but be sure that you retain all the information so you can relate it to them. > >> > >> Lynne > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> [mailto:[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of David > Finnigan > >> via > >> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:37 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected] > > > >> Subject: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch > >> > >> I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription > >> shows > the > >> following citation details: > >> > >> > >> > >> "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch > >> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 > >> January > 2015), > >> Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, > >> Norfolk, England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. > >> > >> > >> > >> Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't > >> find anything that looked similar. Thanks. > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> David > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> with the word > 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> with the word > 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> -- > >> Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > >> Retired International Genealogist for > >> http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 > >> http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS > >> WORLDWIDE! > >> > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty The side by side function was why I consented to be the Genealogist for Clan Cunningham Being being to compare members files was a big help in matching family researchers. I was also seeking researchers of my direct line. Ones I found were doing his brothers. Jon . On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Betty Stokes via < [email protected]> wrote: > I didn't know about the compare function in version 7. For a long time, I > have been creating 2 descendant trees in Microsoft Word. Then lining them > up > side by side and fixing the one that needs fixing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Holden via > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:52 AM > To: Dora Smith > Cc: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [RMagic] comparing 2 family files in RM6 > > You cannot do any report from RM that covers two databases but RM7 does > compare two. I was suggesting the same custom report from each. > > > > > On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:50 PM, "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Tom, how can you do a custom report that includes information from more > than one database? > > > > Dora > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Tom Holden via > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:46 AM > > To: Maggie Champion ; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [RMagic] comparing 2 family files in RM6 > > > > Upgrade to RM7 which has a File Compare function which looks for matching > people and works best if each file descended from a common file. > > > > If you are stuck on RM6, you could open both files and tile their windows > side-by-side. Customize People View to add th column "Date lasted edited" > and maybe add the Record Number" column. Arrange these to be right next to > the name column. Sort on the name columns and scan for matching record > numbers, different names, which has the later dates, etc. Or you could make > a custom report in each database with these fields, print to paper and > compare. > > > > Tom > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Dora RM has had side by side file compare since version 5. The new File Compare uses a different method to compare files one individual at a time and show you the ones that don't match. It is for comparing an older file with the newer one to find if theyt are alike or the differences. The drag and drop has been available since version 5. Yes the sources built in are moved also. Those that are user designed are not. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Dora Smith via < [email protected]> wrote: > Just to compare them I would think you could just arrange the two windows > so > that you can compare the lists or else the family screens. Unless you can > drag and drop in RM 6 and I don't know it, you won't be able to do as much > about it if they don't match. > > Dora > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Hayes via > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 4:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RMagic] comparing 2 family files in RM6 > > On 29 Jan 2015 at 11:46, Tom Holden via wrote: > > > Upgrade to RM7 which has a File Compare function which looks for matching > > people and works best if each file descended from a common file. > > > > If you are stuck on RM6, you could open both files and tile their windows > > side-by-side. Customize People View to add th column "Date lasted edited" > > and > > maybe add the Record Number" column. Arrange these to be right next to > the > > name column. Sort on the name columns and scan for matching record > > numbers, > > different names, which has the later dates, etc. Or you could make a > > custom > > report in each database with these fields, print to paper and compare. > > Or you could export both files to Gedcom and use this to compare them: > > GENMatcher - Compare genealogy files for matches or duplicates. > > Find common individuals between files.Find duplicates keep your > genealogy > data clean.Side-by-side and color-coded formatting makes it easy to see > differences in the details.Directly reads GEDCOM, PAF 3- 5, TMG 4, 5, 6 and > 7 > (The Master Genealogist), Family Tree Maker 2006 and previous versions, > Legacy 3-7 files and RootsMagic 2 and 3.Compare files between any of the > supported genealogy file formats. Files do not have to be the same format > to > be compared!No risk to your data: compare without needing to import. > > http://mudcreeksoftware.com/ > > > -- > Keep well, > Steve Hayes > Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com > Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm > E-mail: [email protected] > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

The source that FS has given here is ENGLAND MARRIAGES and the URL to that site. I would use Family Search as your source, but if the related quoted source is listed you show their source as well. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Lynne Roberts via < [email protected]> wrote: > I sympathize - it took an act of Congress to convince Familysearch that > Familysearch wasn't an acceptable source! You have to drill down - and at > times I've had to make personal inquiries to determine the source of their > information. Having the film # is helpful, but of course that's where you > access it - it isn't the source. Start digging - and if you can't find it > from the site, don't hesitate to email them for the information - but be > sure that you retain all the information so you can relate it to them. > > Lynne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Finnigan > via > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch > > I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription shows the > following citation details: > > > > "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 January > 2015), > Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, Norfolk, > England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. > > > > Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't find > anything that looked similar. Thanks. > > > > Cheers > > David > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Copy the one Family search gave and put it into the source Family Search. It is one that is on the main source list. Ref to the one that FS provided is a good idea. Jon On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:36 PM, David Finnigan via < [email protected]> wrote: > I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription shows the > following citation details: > > > > "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 January > 2015), > Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, Norfolk, > England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. > > > > Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't find > anything that looked similar. Thanks. > > > > Cheers > > David > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

I think you put more in your citation than I would - but I heartily agree with your inclusion of the actual source of the original document - Sussesx, NJ, NJ State Archives, and the film number - as well as the access point. That way if you want more vital record material from Sussex Co, NJ, this source also tells you where to look for it. And you have the confidence of knowing it came from a government record and not from a compiled genealogy. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Anne via Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch I use the Basic Ancestry Images Template and this is the result: Footnote: "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ : accessed 18 January 2015), entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. Digital image. Short Footnote: "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956," index and images, FamilySearch, entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. Digital image. Bibliography: "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956." Index and images. FamilySearch. https://familysearch.org/ : 2015. I put all of this in the "Item of Interest" box "entry for John Grigg and Kezia Hunt, 29 Dec 1802; citing Sussex, New Jersey, New Jersey State Archives, Trenton; FHL microfilm 961,018. Digital image" That way, I can use "New Jersey, County Marriages, 1682-1956" for other marriages in the database, but you could put it in "Credit Line" if you want to create a separate source for every record. I just copy and paste the info from FamilySearch and make a few changes. Carol Anne On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Lynne Roberts via <[email protected]> wrote: > In my personal opinion, there is no such source as "England Marriages" > - the source is where all of those English marriage records came from > - and usually there is a blurb noting where all of those records > originated. I know that Ancestry is getting much better about that. > It's important to know, because I only want information from > government or church records - I do NOT want information provided by other genealogists. > > > > Lynne > > > > > > From: Jon Czarowitz [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:29 AM > To: Lynne Roberts; rootsmagic-users > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch > > > > The source that FS has given here is ENGLAND MARRIAGES and the URL to > that site. I would use Family Search as your source, but if the > related quoted source is listed you show their source as well. > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Lynne Roberts via > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > I sympathize - it took an act of Congress to convince Familysearch > that Familysearch wasn't an acceptable source! You have to drill down > - and at times I've had to make personal inquiries to determine the > source of their information. Having the film # is helpful, but of > course that's where you access it - it isn't the source. Start > digging - and if you can't find it from the site, don't hesitate to > email them for the information - but be sure that you retain all the information so you can relate it to them. > > Lynne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of David > Finnigan via > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:37 PM > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch > > I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription shows > the following citation details: > > > > "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 January > 2015), Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, > Norfolk, England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. > > > > Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't find > anything that looked similar. Thanks. > > > > Cheers > > David > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > > -- > Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC > Hempel Genealogist since 1986 > Retired International Genealogist for > http://www.clancunninghamintl.org > RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - > CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"England Marriages" would be a database of index entries. As long as the citation provides the microfilm number of the image copy of the ultimate source, I don't see the problem. On 1/31/2015 10:47 AM, Lynne Roberts via wrote: In my personal opinion, there is no such source as "England Marriages" - the source is where all of those English marriage records came from - and usually there is a blurb noting where all of those records originated. I know that Ancestry is getting much better about that. It's important to know, because I only want information from government or church records - I do NOT want information provided by other genealogists. Lynne

I didn't know about the compare function in version 7. For a long time, I have been creating 2 descendant trees in Microsoft Word. Then lining them up side by side and fixing the one that needs fixing. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Holden via Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:52 AM To: Dora Smith Cc: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [RMagic] comparing 2 family files in RM6 You cannot do any report from RM that covers two databases but RM7 does compare two. I was suggesting the same custom report from each. > On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:50 PM, "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tom, how can you do a custom report that includes information from more than one database? > > Dora > > -----Original Message----- From: Tom Holden via > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:46 AM > To: Maggie Champion ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RMagic] comparing 2 family files in RM6 > > Upgrade to RM7 which has a File Compare function which looks for matching people and works best if each file descended from a common file. > > If you are stuck on RM6, you could open both files and tile their windows side-by-side. Customize People View to add th column "Date lasted edited" and maybe add the Record Number" column. Arrange these to be right next to the name column. Sort on the name columns and scan for matching record numbers, different names, which has the later dates, etc. Or you could make a custom report in each database with these fields, print to paper and compare. > > Tom =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In my personal opinion, there is no such source as "England Marriages" - the source is where all of those English marriage records came from - and usually there is a blurb noting where all of those records originated. I know that Ancestry is getting much better about that. It's important to know, because I only want information from government or church records - I do NOT want information provided by other genealogists. Lynne From: Jon Czarowitz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:29 AM To: Lynne Roberts; rootsmagic-users Subject: Re: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch The source that FS has given here is ENGLAND MARRIAGES and the URL to that site. I would use Family Search as your source, but if the related quoted source is listed you show their source as well. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Lynne Roberts via <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I sympathize - it took an act of Congress to convince Familysearch that Familysearch wasn't an acceptable source! You have to drill down - and at times I've had to make personal inquiries to determine the source of their information. Having the film # is helpful, but of course that's where you access it - it isn't the source. Start digging - and if you can't find it from the site, don't hesitate to email them for the information - but be sure that you retain all the information so you can relate it to them. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of David Finnigan via Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:37 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription shows the following citation details: "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 January 2015), Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, Norfolk, England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't find anything that looked similar. Thanks. Cheers David =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -- Jon P Czarowitz, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

That is sometimes the only thing one can do if a computer hangs. However, it isn't a good solution long term. It can corrupt your operating system. In fact, last fall, when I was helping college students connect their assorted devices to an ISP, one of those students who always just presses the power off button and won't be talked into shutting it down properly, found right at that exact moment that the computer wouldn't boot. He'd corrupted the operating system. In the long run one needs to figure out why the computer is hanging and solve that problem. Also, there is more that one can do with control alt delete to shut down a hung program than either of us put in our posts last night before Emery St Cyr resorted to the power button. Dora -----Original Message----- From: MScheffler via Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:29 PM To: Emery St Cyr ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] emergency help now Rootsmagic (or any program for that matter) can stop working or "hang" at points. When I have problems with RM, once out of the problem, I always restart the computer. Often we may have several programs open at the same time, which can occasionally cause conflicts. Starting with a fresh reboot clears out the computer's memory and may well solve the problem. You may not lose anything by turning off the computer, but it is always wise to backup your RM database every hour or so. It does not take much time, and it gives one peace of mind should some problem occur Margaret Scheffler -----Original Message----- From: Emery St Cyr via I was on rm6 and clicked on the person that I wanted to add a fact to and when I clicked on add a fact I got the little blue circle that goes around next to the pointer and it never goes off and I can't do anything on rm. I can go back to office 2010 and use it but and look at other mail but can nut shut down or do anything with rm. Can I just turn off the computer? Will I lose anything? =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Em: Send your phone number to villandra at gmail dot com, and we can work on it tonight. (I don't know if I had trouble subscribing but I'm subscribed from more than one e-mail account.) Also post what operating system you are using - Mac, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, or a different version of Windows, or one of the Linux operating systems. Then it is possible that what you said below will make instant sense to someone. Most of what you said below is that you have no idea what to do with a window, but if you're using Windows 8 it would confuse the nether end off a horse, and the latest Mac operating system unfortunately tried to imitate Windows 8. (Windows 8 is so unpopular it nearly brought the computer industry to a complete halt; people who don't know how to build their own computer stopped buying - I don't know what is WITH these corporate people.) I have training in Windows desktop support, and have done a call center job where I had to help people with Macs as well, so we ought to be able to figure it out. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Emery St Cyr via Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:31 AM To: 'MScheffler' ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] emergency help now Margaret, I did close down and restart and everything came back. The only other window that I had open was my mail and I did shut that down. This is the first time that it has happened to me and it was confusing. I did notice that I had on the desk top a frame that went around the edge of the screen and it had the three boxes at the upper right to minus, reduce and close out (x). I couldn't get rid of that either. I remember expanding a frame to see more of the data and didn't reduce it, but not sure if that had anything to do with it. I did back up my data a few days ago on to a cd but I couldn't get it onto my flash drive with RM to go. I had a red flag saying there was a problem and I didn't know what to do about it. Thanks for a listening ear. Em -----Original Message----- From: MScheffler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:30 PM To: Emery St Cyr; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] emergency help now Rootsmagic (or any program for that matter) can stop working or "hang" at points. When I have problems with RM, once out of the problem, I always restart the computer. Often we may have several programs open at the same time, which can occasionally cause conflicts. Starting with a fresh reboot clears out the computer's memory and may well solve the problem. You may not lose anything by turning off the computer, but it is always wise to backup your RM database every hour or so. It does not take much time, and it gives one peace of mind should some problem occur Margaret Scheffler -----Original Message----- From: Emery St Cyr via I was on rm6 and clicked on the person that I wanted to add a fact to and when I clicked on add a fact I got the little blue circle that goes around next to the pointer and it never goes off and I can't do anything on rm. I can go back to office 2010 and use it but and look at other mail but can nut shut down or do anything with rm. Can I just turn off the computer? Will I lose anything? =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

You're right - the whole point of sourcing and citing (just like footnotes in a research paper) is to inform the reader where that original record can be found for further research. I have found a great deal of information simply by searching out sources and citations found in books and other locations. So in your example, if I want to see the original records, I wouldn't have clue where to look. However, if you added a blurb providing the source of the original records, researchers could go back and find the material. No different than with a source that tells you that a will is with specific county court records in a specific will book and on a specific page, e.g., Louisa County, VA Court Records, Will Book K, pp 273-275. Then, no matter where those court records end up (starting in the court house, ending up in a centralized records administration or the state library) you would know exactly what you were looking for in order to see that original record. Family history library films are terrific, and I've certainly used them, but I've found many records that were simply unreadable on the microfilm, and I had to go back and use a copy of the original. Knowing the original source was critical. I also agree that sourcing is being treated like an arcane process - I'm fascinated by the variety of formats offered in Roots Magic. I, too, use generic formats and frequently use free form (thank heavens they retained that!!) especially for census data. I personally think it's become ridiculously overcomplicated. Several basic formats would serve all situations nicely - however, I realize that my opinion is definitely in the minority now. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MScheffler via Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:26 PM To: David Finnigan; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch Are there any reasons why one would need that kind of detail (as the example below) from information found on FamilySearch given the fact that FamilySearch is really not a source. For me it would be a waste of time to make the citation any more specific. I use simply: FamilySearch; LDS database That way anyone noticing that is where I got my "hint" would need to look further for proper verification. I do many transcriptions from standard genealogy reference books, and always attempt to source them as directly and as simply as possible. My goal is for people using my information be able to go back and get the book or census or whatever, and turn to the page to see how I interpreted what is there. It can become very easy to waste time with sourcing when one should spend the time evaluating whether the information one is sourcing actually hangs together and makes sense. I also use generic type sources for census schedules by year, birth certificates, death certificates, etc. Margaret Scheffler -----Original Message----- From: David Finnigan via Subject: [RMagic] Citing FamilySearch I have just found an ancestor on FamilySearch. The transcription shows the following citation details: "England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKK-T4K : accessed 31 January 2015), Samuel Page and Elizabeth Blythe, 26 Oct 1800; citing Ludham, Norfolk, England, reference item 7; FHL microfilm 1,911,695. Which RM source should I be using to get this result? I couldn't find anything that looked similar. Thanks. =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret, I did close down and restart and everything came back. The only other window that I had open was my mail and I did shut that down. This is the first time that it has happened to me and it was confusing. I did notice that I had on the desk top a frame that went around the edge of the screen and it had the three boxes at the upper right to minus, reduce and close out (x). I couldn't get rid of that either. I remember expanding a frame to see more of the data and didn't reduce it, but not sure if that had anything to do with it. I did back up my data a few days ago on to a cd but I couldn't get it onto my flash drive with RM to go. I had a red flag saying there was a problem and I didn't know what to do about it. Thanks for a listening ear. Em -----Original Message----- From: MScheffler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:30 PM To: Emery St Cyr; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] emergency help now Rootsmagic (or any program for that matter) can stop working or "hang" at points. When I have problems with RM, once out of the problem, I always restart the computer. Often we may have several programs open at the same time, which can occasionally cause conflicts. Starting with a fresh reboot clears out the computer's memory and may well solve the problem. You may not lose anything by turning off the computer, but it is always wise to backup your RM database every hour or so. It does not take much time, and it gives one peace of mind should some problem occur Margaret Scheffler -----Original Message----- From: Emery St Cyr via I was on rm6 and clicked on the person that I wanted to add a fact to and when I clicked on add a fact I got the little blue circle that goes around next to the pointer and it never goes off and I can't do anything on rm. I can go back to office 2010 and use it but and look at other mail but can nut shut down or do anything with rm. Can I just turn off the computer? Will I lose anything?

On 30 Jan 2015 at 20:46, Lynne Roberts via wrote: > I sympathize - it took an act of Congress to convince Familysearch that > Familysearch wasn't an acceptable source! Eh? Which Act? How? > You have to drill down - and at > times I've had to make personal inquiries to determine the source of their > information. Having the film # is helpful, but of course that's where you > access it - it isn't the source. Start digging - and if you can't find it > from the site, don't hesitate to email them for the information - but be sure > that you retain all the information so you can relate it to them. In my own research, if I found it in FamilySearch online, that's what I quote. But, if they have an online image of the original document, and I have seen that, then I quote that too. Drill down is right, though. I accepted some of FamilySearch's suggestions as sources to attach, so I attached them, and then tried to find them to get more information, and that proved much more difficult, and took about five clicks to eventually see the original. I don't know how one would do that from within RM. -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: [email protected]