On 6 Mar 2015 at 19:15, Pat McGrath via wrote: > I did a copy of my database changing the name to include IPAD (eliminate > confusion) and put it into my Dropbox RootsMagic account so that I WAS ABLE to > load it onto my Ipad. GREAT! > > I only want to be able to VIEW it as I travel .. > > 1) IF I go back into my original database that DOES NOT include the word > IPAD in its name, that lives in my RootsMagic folder in documents on my C: > drive ----- will I NOT be accessing the same one that is on the Ipad? That > database DOES NOT reside in my Dropbox folder ... No you will not. That means that if you make any changes, you will need to copy the dastabase again before the changes become visible on your ipad. > 2) Another question: CAN I enter/edit data in and into the database on the > Ipad with that app IF I wanted to????? I don't know enough about ipads to answer that, but if you did, your two databases would be out of sync. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: [email protected] Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

Fantastic! Just what I ‘thought’ but want to be sure …. THANK YOU! Pat From: Tom Holden [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:01 PM To: Pat McGrath; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] Database use on Ipad When you open and edit a database file, only that file is affected. The file in Dropbox is a different file than the one on your C drive and the file on your ipad is a third one. Initially their contents were the same (you copied one to Dropbox and that one was copied to iPad. If you change the one on your C drive, it is different from the one on Dropbox and the iPad until you copy it to Dropbox which leaves the iPad one out of sync until you update it from Dropbox. The iPad app does no editing. It is view only. Tom On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Pat McGrath via <[email protected]> wrote: HELP! Before I shoot myself in the foot let me ask the question! I did a copy of my database changing the name to include IPAD (eliminate confusion) and put it into my Dropbox RootsMagic account so that I WAS ABLE to load it onto my Ipad. GREAT! I only want to be able to VIEW it as I travel .. 1) IF I go back into my original database that DOES NOT include the word IPAD in its name, that lives in my RootsMagic folder in documents on my C: drive ----- will I NOT be accessing the same one that is on the Ipad? That database DOES NOT reside in my Dropbox folder ... 2) Another question: CAN I enter/edit data in and into the database on the Ipad with that app IF I wanted to????? Thanks a million Pat =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When you open and edit a database file, only that file is affected. The file in Dropbox is a different file than the one on your C drive and the file on your ipad is a third one. Initially their contents were the same (you copied one to Dropbox and that one was copied to iPad. If you change the one on your C drive, it is different from the one on Dropbox and the iPad until you copy it to Dropbox which leaves the iPad one out of sync until you update it from Dropbox. The iPad app does no editing. It is view only. Tom On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Pat McGrath via < [email protected]> wrote: > HELP! Before I shoot myself in the foot let me ask the question! > > > > I did a copy of my database changing the name to include IPAD (eliminate > confusion) and put it into my Dropbox RootsMagic account so that I WAS ABLE > to load it onto my Ipad. GREAT! > > > > I only want to be able to VIEW it as I travel .. > > > > 1) IF I go back into my original database that DOES NOT include the word > IPAD in its name, that lives in my RootsMagic folder in documents on my C: > drive ----- will I NOT be accessing the same one that is on the Ipad? That > database DOES NOT reside in my Dropbox folder ... > > > > 2) Another question: CAN I enter/edit data in and into the database on the > Ipad with that app IF I wanted to????? > > > > Thanks a million > > Pat > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I suggest you wait until the last minute to copy your database to Ipad. Then you won't be making to your main database and the Ipad copy will be current. Using a notepad type you can copy any data you receive on the trip and wait to add it to your main database. This way you will know what you already have and what is still missing. Have a good trip. Jon On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Pat McGrath via < [email protected]> wrote: > HELP! Before I shoot myself in the foot let me ask the question! > > > > I did a copy of my database changing the name to include IPAD (eliminate > confusion) and put it into my Dropbox RootsMagic account so that I WAS ABLE > to load it onto my Ipad. GREAT! > > > > I only want to be able to VIEW it as I travel .. > > > > 1) IF I go back into my original database that DOES NOT include the word > IPAD in its name, that lives in my RootsMagic folder in documents on my C: > drive ----- will I NOT be accessing the same one that is on the Ipad? That > database DOES NOT reside in my Dropbox folder ... > > > > 2) Another question: CAN I enter/edit data in and into the database on the > Ipad with that app IF I wanted to????? > > > > Thanks a million > > Pat > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

HELP! Before I shoot myself in the foot let me ask the question! I did a copy of my database changing the name to include IPAD (eliminate confusion) and put it into my Dropbox RootsMagic account so that I WAS ABLE to load it onto my Ipad. GREAT! I only want to be able to VIEW it as I travel .. 1) IF I go back into my original database that DOES NOT include the word IPAD in its name, that lives in my RootsMagic folder in documents on my C: drive ----- will I NOT be accessing the same one that is on the Ipad? That database DOES NOT reside in my Dropbox folder ... 2) Another question: CAN I enter/edit data in and into the database on the Ipad with that app IF I wanted to????? Thanks a million Pat

I don't tend to look at them by clicking on the checkmark. I got into the habit of clicking the source button on the bottom right of the edit person screen instead. Guess it really is the same 'list of sources' but they are seen completely there. Tom, I agree, going through and memorize/cut/paste all of them would WORK, but that is exactly what that would be A LOT OF WORK! It's not that critical and that method would certainly create opportunities for me to create an entirely new problem!!!! The other thing I do miss from TMG was the ability to 'rank' as source best, very good, good, fair, poor by selecting a number. Haven't done it yet, but am thinking about putting something into my source or source title to force that ability such as TITLE OF EXCELLENT SOURCE [1] because it's the highest ranked source or a TITLE OF POOR SOURCE [5] because although I took the data it's not what I'd call a good or even very good source and I want to continue to search for a better source! I have so many different areas where I'm trying to 'clean up' my data this may take a back seat! Thanks for all your input!!!! Never know if I can't do something or just have not yet figured out how! Pat -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Maxwell via Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 5:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] Moving sources in a given fact type Pat, are you referring to the list of sources, for instance, when you select a check mark for sources attached to a person or a fact? Are you marking the quality so that it appears in the list? If you do that it will show the ones that are primary vs secondary or derivatives, etc. In reports, they appear in the order of the footnote numbers. Sue On 3/6/2015 1:44 PM, Pat McGrath via wrote: > Quick question! In TMG when I had multiple sources for a given fact > type, I was able to change the order in which they appeared by moving > them up or down in the list . usually putting the one I thought was > the most reliable source at the top of the list and the least reliable > source at the bottom of the list. > > > > In RootsMagic, it appears that a new source is just added to the end > of whatever sources are already showing, not sorted alphabetically or > in any particular order as far as I can tell. I do see any way that I > can reorganize the list, such as in a list of children one could > either drag/drop to a different order or sort by date. > > > > Does one exist and I have just missed it or does it actually NOT exist > and they just go to the end of the line? > > > > Pat > > -- Sue Maxwell http://granitegenealogy.blogspot.com/ Utah Sandy Area Family History Advisor =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Afterthought... say you have two sources for a fact and you want to change the order. Try this. Using the Citation Manager for a fact, Memorize the first source and then Paste it to create a copy of the citation at the bottom of the list. Delete the first. You will see that the order has been swapped. With three or more sources, it will take more thought as you cycle through Memorize, Paste, Delete in descending order of importance. It is indirect, cumbersome and awkward but the only way currently available to change the order. Tom On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Tom Holden <[email protected]> wrote: > RootsMagic has no capability to change the order of source citations. > > Tom > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Carol Anne via < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I really miss this feature too! When I find a better source, I like to >> be able to move it to the top of the list. Seems odd to have a >> derivative source placed before a primary one. >> >> Carol Anne >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Pat McGrath via >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Quick question! In TMG when I had multiple sources for a given fact >> type, I >> > was able to change the order in which they appeared by moving them up or >> > down in the list . usually putting the one I thought was the most >> reliable >> > source at the top of the list and the least reliable source at the >> bottom of >> > the list. >> > >> > >> > >> > In RootsMagic, it appears that a new source is just added to the end of >> > whatever sources are already showing, not sorted alphabetically or in >> any >> > particular order as far as I can tell. I do see any way that I can >> > reorganize the list, such as in a list of children one could either >> > drag/drop to a different order or sort by date. >> > >> > >> > >> > Does one exist and I have just missed it or does it actually NOT exist >> and >> > they just go to the end of the line? >> > >> > >> > >> > Pat >> > >> > >> > >> > =================================== >> > RM list Archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> =================================== >> RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS >> WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: >> http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

RootsMagic has no capability to change the order of source citations. Tom On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Carol Anne via < [email protected]> wrote: > I really miss this feature too! When I find a better source, I like to > be able to move it to the top of the list. Seems odd to have a > derivative source placed before a primary one. > > Carol Anne > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Pat McGrath via > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Quick question! In TMG when I had multiple sources for a given fact > type, I > > was able to change the order in which they appeared by moving them up or > > down in the list . usually putting the one I thought was the most > reliable > > source at the top of the list and the least reliable source at the > bottom of > > the list. > > > > > > > > In RootsMagic, it appears that a new source is just added to the end of > > whatever sources are already showing, not sorted alphabetically or in any > > particular order as far as I can tell. I do see any way that I can > > reorganize the list, such as in a list of children one could either > > drag/drop to a different order or sort by date. > > > > > > > > Does one exist and I have just missed it or does it actually NOT exist > and > > they just go to the end of the line? > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > =================================== > > RM list Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I really miss this feature too! When I find a better source, I like to be able to move it to the top of the list. Seems odd to have a derivative source placed before a primary one. Carol Anne On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Pat McGrath via <[email protected]> wrote: > Quick question! In TMG when I had multiple sources for a given fact type, I > was able to change the order in which they appeared by moving them up or > down in the list . usually putting the one I thought was the most reliable > source at the top of the list and the least reliable source at the bottom of > the list. > > > > In RootsMagic, it appears that a new source is just added to the end of > whatever sources are already showing, not sorted alphabetically or in any > particular order as far as I can tell. I do see any way that I can > reorganize the list, such as in a list of children one could either > drag/drop to a different order or sort by date. > > > > Does one exist and I have just missed it or does it actually NOT exist and > they just go to the end of the line? > > > > Pat > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Quick question! In TMG when I had multiple sources for a given fact type, I was able to change the order in which they appeared by moving them up or down in the list . usually putting the one I thought was the most reliable source at the top of the list and the least reliable source at the bottom of the list. In RootsMagic, it appears that a new source is just added to the end of whatever sources are already showing, not sorted alphabetically or in any particular order as far as I can tell. I do see any way that I can reorganize the list, such as in a list of children one could either drag/drop to a different order or sort by date. Does one exist and I have just missed it or does it actually NOT exist and they just go to the end of the line? Pat

Pat, are you referring to the list of sources, for instance, when you select a check mark for sources attached to a person or a fact? Are you marking the quality so that it appears in the list? If you do that it will show the ones that are primary vs secondary or derivatives, etc. In reports, they appear in the order of the footnote numbers. Sue On 3/6/2015 1:44 PM, Pat McGrath via wrote: > Quick question! In TMG when I had multiple sources for a given fact type, I > was able to change the order in which they appeared by moving them up or > down in the list . usually putting the one I thought was the most reliable > source at the top of the list and the least reliable source at the bottom of > the list. > > > > In RootsMagic, it appears that a new source is just added to the end of > whatever sources are already showing, not sorted alphabetically or in any > particular order as far as I can tell. I do see any way that I can > reorganize the list, such as in a list of children one could either > drag/drop to a different order or sort by date. > > > > Does one exist and I have just missed it or does it actually NOT exist and > they just go to the end of the line? > > > > Pat > > -- Sue Maxwell http://granitegenealogy.blogspot.com/ Utah Sandy Area Family History Advisor

Not sure exactly what a 'marriage contract' means but I know that Marriage Banns doesn't guarantee a marriage - so there shouldn't necessarily be a replacement fact, ie one doesn't automatically follow the other - unlike Baptism to Birth and Burial to Death. Cheers David Sydney Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lou Love via Sent: Friday, 6 March 2015 8:18 AM To: Pat McGrath; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] Fact type 'replacement' Pat that's one one the spots where I use the est or abt date for a fact. If I can find dates of birth for children, I'll subtract a year and use that as an est marriage date. Just my way to record my folks. Good hunting, Love, Lou Louis E. Love. O.D. ________________________________ From: Pat McGrath via <[email protected]> To: 'RootsMagic Users List ' <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 2:30 PM Subject: [RMagic] Fact type 'replacement' Hi: IF I don't have a birth day but do have a baptism/christening date, the fact type CHRISTEN will print on reports in the birth field. Similarly if I do not have a death date the BURIAL will print on those same reports. BUT, if I don't have a MARRIAGE, but I DO HAVE a 'marriage contract' date ... THAT does not appear at least on the screens for the family . IS there a 'replacement' fact type that would print / show in this case??? Pat Mc =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 5 Mar 2015 at 18:57, Pat McGrath via wrote: > Thanks for the feedback! After I sent my message I did do an 'Abt xxxx' with > the same year as the 'marriage contract' ---- document drawn up by a notary > found a LOT in French Canadian marriages/records ---- so something would show > in the field and give me a 'vague idea' when they might have gotten married. Here in South Africa such a contract is usually an Ante-Nuptial Contract, and very rarely a Post-Nuptial Contract, so where I have it and not the actual marriage date I put an Abt date for the marriage, as the marriage usually took place within the next couple of months. If there are children, the likelihoodf that the marriage did not take place is fairly remote. If it is a Post-Nuptial contract, obviously the marriage must have taken place, even if you don't know the date, but it could be quite a long time before the contract date. > > Then, one of the responses mentioned that marriage banns didn't necessarily > result in a marriage, and that might be the same case with a marriage contract > --- can be cancelled or annulled --- so absolutely correct that it is possible > for a marriage NOT to have taken place. -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: [email protected]

> > You can print a list with all the Place Details. Go to: > Lists|Place Lists|Print|Print all places in database with the box opposite > Print place details checked|Generate Report > > That will generate a list of all the Places with the Place Details > indented so you can easily see them. You can then easily see if there are > dups by scrolling through the list. > > Alternately, you can also save the list as a text file, open it in a text > handling program like Notebook, copy the text and paste the information in > a spreadsheet. The Place Details will go in the second column. You can then > easily scroll down to each Place Detail. > > __________________________________________________ >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:00:25 -0800 >> From: Betty Briggs <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [RMagic] Duplicated "place detail" names >> To: "David E. Cann" <[email protected]>, >> [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> David, I have the same problem and am working on cleaning it up. I don?t >> know if this is what you want, but it?s what works for me. >> >> First, when I find a duplication of Cemeteries as you have, I edit them >> one at a time: >> Edit place >> Split place/details - I split out all text except the county, state, >> country and enter that in the Place Detail box. >> With the county name now coming first, I click on the name of the county >> that is already in the format I want, then click on Merge and select the >> entry I just split. >> I repeat with each of the cemeteries with multiple places, then click on >> place details and merge all the cemeteries, making sure any city, township, >> etc, details are in the final selection. >> >> One cemetery I merged today was listed 5 ways, and I merged them by >> merging place details. I figure I?ll finish merging places sometime in the >> year 2020. :) >> >> Good luck! >> Betty >> >> > On Feb 28, 2015, at 2:06 PM, David E. Cann via < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Jim, >> > >> > I understand that, but you can't do it if you don't know they are there >> in >> > the first place. I am trying to figure out (not very successfully) a >> way of >> > entering them only once and avoiding the duplication first off. :-( >> > >> > >> > David E. Cann >> > [email protected] >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim >> Belanger via >> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 3:50 PM >> > To: David E. Cann via >> > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Duplicated "place detail" names >> > >> > You can merge similar place details just like you do places. >> > >> > >> > >> > Jim Belanger >> > NH State Representative >> > [email protected] >> > Town Moderator; Hollis, NH >> > Sent from my iPad >> > >> >> On Feb 28, 2015, at 3:10 PM, David E. Cann via >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I think I already know the answer to this question, but is there any >> >> way of avoiding duplicated Place DETAIL name at entry, such as with >> >> the following actual example: >> >> >> >> Sugar Grove Cemetery, Union Township, Clinton County, Ohio Sugar Grove >> >> Cemetery, Wilmington, Clinton County, Ohio Sugar Grove Cemetery, >> >> Clinton County, Ohio >> >> >> >> The above are shown as an example of what I mean ONLY, but the >> >> cemetery IS truly not only in the city but in the township and county >> >> as well, all at the same time. Now approaching 58,000 individuals, >> >> each entered one fact at a time, I am starting to realize that some of >> >> my place details are entered twice because not only did the source >> >> state them inconsistently, but I did not catch them each at time of >> >> entry. With a place name entry, RM suggests a currently entered entry >> >> for you making is pretty easy to avoid duplication of places, but >> there is >> > no such feature with place details that I know of. >> >> I don't know if such a feature is even possible given the structure of >> >> our place and/or place detail names, but speaking only for myself it >> >> would sure save me some time going back and correcting work already >> >> done fixing duplicate entries. >> >> >> >> I've even tried to find a report to list all place details in >> >> alphabetical order, so I can check it by county or some such every now >> >> and then, but I'm unable to think of any list, report or tool that >> >> effectively works for something like this. I welcome any ideas from >> >> anyone on this. Maybe the RootsMagician can come up with the means of >> >> using the "smart entry" tool (or whatever it is called) currently >> >> doing wonderful things with place name entries, and modify it to >> >> create one to work effectively in place details but I fear that may >> >> not be feasible. :-( >> >> >> >> >> >> David E. Cann >> >> [email protected] >> >

You can print a list with all the Place Details. Go to: Lists|Place Lists|Print|Print all places in database with the box opposite Print place details checked|Generate Report That will generate a list of all the Places with the Place Details indented so you can easily see them. You can then easily see if there are dups by scrolling through the list. Alternately, you can also save the list as a text file, open it in a text handling program like Notebook, copy the text and paste the information in a spreadsheet. The Place Details will go in the second column. You can then easily scroll down to each Place Detail. __________________________________________________ > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:00:25 -0800 > From: Betty Briggs <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Duplicated "place detail" names > To: "David E. Cann" <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > David, I have the same problem and am working on cleaning it up. I don?t > know if this is what you want, but it?s what works for me. > > First, when I find a duplication of Cemeteries as you have, I edit them > one at a time: > Edit place > Split place/details - I split out all text except the county, state, > country and enter that in the Place Detail box. > With the county name now coming first, I click on the name of the county > that is already in the format I want, then click on Merge and select the > entry I just split. > I repeat with each of the cemeteries with multiple places, then click on > place details and merge all the cemeteries, making sure any city, township, > etc, details are in the final selection. > > One cemetery I merged today was listed 5 ways, and I merged them by > merging place details. I figure I?ll finish merging places sometime in the > year 2020. :) > > Good luck! > Betty > > > On Feb 28, 2015, at 2:06 PM, David E. Cann via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Jim, > > > > I understand that, but you can't do it if you don't know they are there > in > > the first place. I am trying to figure out (not very successfully) a > way of > > entering them only once and avoiding the duplication first off. :-( > > > > > > David E. Cann > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim > Belanger via > > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 3:50 PM > > To: David E. Cann via > > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Duplicated "place detail" names > > > > You can merge similar place details just like you do places. > > > > > > > > Jim Belanger > > NH State Representative > > [email protected] > > Town Moderator; Hollis, NH > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Feb 28, 2015, at 3:10 PM, David E. Cann via > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I think I already know the answer to this question, but is there any > >> way of avoiding duplicated Place DETAIL name at entry, such as with > >> the following actual example: > >> > >> Sugar Grove Cemetery, Union Township, Clinton County, Ohio Sugar Grove > >> Cemetery, Wilmington, Clinton County, Ohio Sugar Grove Cemetery, > >> Clinton County, Ohio > >> > >> The above are shown as an example of what I mean ONLY, but the > >> cemetery IS truly not only in the city but in the township and county > >> as well, all at the same time. Now approaching 58,000 individuals, > >> each entered one fact at a time, I am starting to realize that some of > >> my place details are entered twice because not only did the source > >> state them inconsistently, but I did not catch them each at time of > >> entry. With a place name entry, RM suggests a currently entered entry > >> for you making is pretty easy to avoid duplication of places, but there > is > > no such feature with place details that I know of. > >> I don't know if such a feature is even possible given the structure of > >> our place and/or place detail names, but speaking only for myself it > >> would sure save me some time going back and correcting work already > >> done fixing duplicate entries. > >> > >> I've even tried to find a report to list all place details in > >> alphabetical order, so I can check it by county or some such every now > >> and then, but I'm unable to think of any list, report or tool that > >> effectively works for something like this. I welcome any ideas from > >> anyone on this. Maybe the RootsMagician can come up with the means of > >> using the "smart entry" tool (or whatever it is called) currently > >> doing wonderful things with place name entries, and modify it to > >> create one to work effectively in place details but I fear that may > >> not be feasible. :-( > >> > >> > >> David E. Cann > >> [email protected] >

In the USA wilderness a Marriage Bann was the announcement of Marriage intention; whereas Marriage Contract was one often arranged by the Guardian or parents. The marriage was performed by circuit preachers when they came thru. Jon On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Pat McGrath via < [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the feedback! After I sent my message I did do an 'Abt xxxx' > with the same year as the 'marriage contract' ---- document drawn up by a > notary found a LOT in French Canadian marriages/records ---- so something > would show in the field and give me a 'vague idea' when they might have > gotten married. > > Then, one of the responses mentioned that marriage banns didn't necessarily > result in a marriage, and that might be the same case with a marriage > contract --- can be cancelled or annulled --- so absolutely correct that it > is possible for a marriage NOT to have taken place. > > By using the 'Abt' or 'by' (something) at least I'd know that around that > timeframe a marriage might have taken place when I'm searching records or > trying to have a timeframe for births, etc. > > Thanks again! > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: MScheffler [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 5:05 PM > To: Pat McGrath; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Fact type 'replacement' > > Hi Pat, > > If I only have the marriage intention date, I use that either with > "abt" > > in front of the date or perhaps that intention date with "aft" before the > intention date in the marriage field. Then I may put the intention or > contract date in the marriage note. > > In general I use a lot of estimated dates when I do not have actual > dates for birth & marriage fields. That helps keep one from mixing up > generations, as one finds frequently when they query the LDS FamilySearch > through Rootsmatic for clues. > > Something that you did not ask, but by accident I find that Bruce has > included "by" as a modifier we can now use for estimated dates. I used to > be frustrated when transcribing from books that I had to use "bef" when the > book had "by". > > There is one downside to using estimated dates at time of data entry. > RM will not necessarily pick up a duplicate that it might have caught, had > I > not used estimated dates. That is a choice I frequently make in entering > new > data. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat McGrath via > > Hi: IF I don't have a birth day but do have a baptism/christening date, > the > fact type CHRISTEN will print on reports in the birth field. Similarly if > I > do not have a death date the BURIAL will print on those same reports. > > BUT, if I don't have a MARRIAGE, but I DO HAVE a 'marriage contract' date > ... THAT does not appear at least on the screens for the family . > IS there a 'replacement' fact type that would print / show in this case??? > > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

Yes -- there is a place for media items and notes for places and place details -- go to: Lists|Place List you can then select a place by clicking on it which will open an edit window. At the bottom of the edit window, you can click on the icon to add notes or media. For adding notes or media to place details, in the Place List, select a place with Place Details. You will see a Place Details section of the window at the bottom right with a Notes and a Media icon at the top just like for people. You can add notes and media there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 00:30:56 -0500 > From: "Richard W. Harris" <[email protected]> > Subject: [RMagic] Attaching Media and Notes to Places and Place > Details > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello, > > For the past four or five years I have slowly been transferring 30 years of > ongoing research from more than twenty 3-ring binders into Family Tree > Maker, but for various reasons I became dissatisfied with that programme's > performance, and after trying three alternatives I settled on RM6 last > summer and recently upgraded to RM7. > > I currently have several hundred media pictures and maps of places, and > where appropriate I have recently started to attach these to specific > places > rather than repeatedly attaching them to individual facts that include a > reference to the same place. It would, however, seem that there is nothing > in the Edit Screen to indicate whether there is an image or note attached > to > the place and that the only way to find out is to click on the Place List > button. > > Am I missing something or doing something wrong? Personally I would like > to > see a positive indication or link displayed somewhere on the Edit Screen > showing where media items or notes exist for a particular place. > > Regards > > Richard Harris >

Thanks for the feedback! After I sent my message I did do an 'Abt xxxx' with the same year as the 'marriage contract' ---- document drawn up by a notary found a LOT in French Canadian marriages/records ---- so something would show in the field and give me a 'vague idea' when they might have gotten married. Then, one of the responses mentioned that marriage banns didn't necessarily result in a marriage, and that might be the same case with a marriage contract --- can be cancelled or annulled --- so absolutely correct that it is possible for a marriage NOT to have taken place. By using the 'Abt' or 'by' (something) at least I'd know that around that timeframe a marriage might have taken place when I'm searching records or trying to have a timeframe for births, etc. Thanks again! Pat -----Original Message----- From: MScheffler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 5:05 PM To: Pat McGrath; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RMagic] Fact type 'replacement' Hi Pat, If I only have the marriage intention date, I use that either with "abt" in front of the date or perhaps that intention date with "aft" before the intention date in the marriage field. Then I may put the intention or contract date in the marriage note. In general I use a lot of estimated dates when I do not have actual dates for birth & marriage fields. That helps keep one from mixing up generations, as one finds frequently when they query the LDS FamilySearch through Rootsmatic for clues. Something that you did not ask, but by accident I find that Bruce has included "by" as a modifier we can now use for estimated dates. I used to be frustrated when transcribing from books that I had to use "bef" when the book had "by". There is one downside to using estimated dates at time of data entry. RM will not necessarily pick up a duplicate that it might have caught, had I not used estimated dates. That is a choice I frequently make in entering new data. -----Original Message----- From: Pat McGrath via Hi: IF I don't have a birth day but do have a baptism/christening date, the fact type CHRISTEN will print on reports in the birth field. Similarly if I do not have a death date the BURIAL will print on those same reports. BUT, if I don't have a MARRIAGE, but I DO HAVE a 'marriage contract' date ... THAT does not appear at least on the screens for the family . IS there a 'replacement' fact type that would print / show in this case???

Hi Pat, If I only have the marriage intention date, I use that either with "abt" in front of the date or perhaps that intention date with "aft" before the intention date in the marriage field. Then I may put the intention or contract date in the marriage note. In general I use a lot of estimated dates when I do not have actual dates for birth & marriage fields. That helps keep one from mixing up generations, as one finds frequently when they query the LDS FamilySearch through Rootsmatic for clues. Something that you did not ask, but by accident I find that Bruce has included "by" as a modifier we can now use for estimated dates. I used to be frustrated when transcribing from books that I had to use "bef" when the book had "by". There is one downside to using estimated dates at time of data entry. RM will not necessarily pick up a duplicate that it might have caught, had I not used estimated dates. That is a choice I frequently make in entering new data. -----Original Message----- From: Pat McGrath via Hi: IF I don't have a birth day but do have a baptism/christening date, the fact type CHRISTEN will print on reports in the birth field. Similarly if I do not have a death date the BURIAL will print on those same reports. BUT, if I don't have a MARRIAGE, but I DO HAVE a 'marriage contract' date ... THAT does not appear at least on the screens for the family . IS there a 'replacement' fact type that would print / show in this case???

Hi: IF I don't have a birth day but do have a baptism/christening date, the fact type CHRISTEN will print on reports in the birth field. Similarly if I do not have a death date the BURIAL will print on those same reports. BUT, if I don't have a MARRIAGE, but I DO HAVE a 'marriage contract' date ... THAT does not appear at least on the screens for the family . IS there a 'replacement' fact type that would print / show in this case??? Pat Mc