On 3/15/15 6:54 PM, Robert and Torie Salas via wrote: > I have an ancestor who fathered 10 children with the same > wife over 12 years, and I have now obtained the 10 birth > certificates. Each states that he was a butcher and lived > at the same place. Do people add 10 Occupation facts, each > with a different source and 10 Residence facts, each with a > different source to the one ancestor? I understand that > philosophically / methodologically this is what should be > done but doesn't such activity create a lot of clutter? > > > > This is posted here as I couldn't find anywhere else that > seemed more suitable. If there is, I am happy for > suggestions. > > > > Cheers > > Robert Salas > > (South Australia) > the subject and the body of the message > It really depend on how you intend to use the database. If your intent is to be a detail list of known evidence, then you should enter a separate tag for each source since the data is slightly different (different effective dates). More commonly, the database is used as a summary of your conclusions, with the accumulation of the evidence provided by the sources, in which case, you have a single occupation and residence fact, with 10 sources (or more from other evidence) attached. The latter method will generate better output for most casual usage. -- Richard Damon

Robert- I'm a TMG user just beginning to learn RM, so I don't know if what I'm about to say applies or not. In TMG, I entered each and every residence and occupation mentioned in every document with a "-" in front of the sentence that would be produced. This caused the sentence not to print. Then I created a Residence Summary and Occupation Summary fact whereby I summarized the information into a readable format. If my ancestor changed jobs partway through his life, I could create another Occupation Summary fact and place it where I wanted it to go in the narrative. I preferred to enter each instance separately so it would be placed in the timeline of his life, but it made for boring narratives. Does anyone know if the same thing can be accomplished in RM? Sandy I have an ancestor who fathered 10 children with the same wife over 12 years, and I have now obtained the 10 birth certificates. Each states that he was a butcher and lived at the same place. Do people add 10 Occupation facts, each with a different source and 10 Residence facts, each with a different source to the one ancestor? I understand that philosophically / methodologically this is what should be done but doesn't such activity create a lot of clutter? Robert Salas (South Australia)

I would put the occupation only on the Father between years x - y. Use an occupation note that reference was noted on the 10 children's Birth Certificates as his occupation. I would also use a Family Residence between those same years. Use an residence note that reference was noted on the 10 children's Birth Certificates as the parents' residence. Jon On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Robert and Torie Salas via < [email protected]> wrote: > I have an ancestor who fathered 10 children with the same > wife over 12 years, and I have now obtained the 10 birth > certificates. Each states that he was a butcher and lived > at the same place. Do people add 10 Occupation facts, each > with a different source and 10 Residence facts, each with a > different source to the one ancestor? I understand that > philosophically / methodologically this is what should be > done but doesn't such activity create a lot of clutter? > > > > This is posted here as I couldn't find anywhere else that > seemed more suitable. If there is, I am happy for > suggestions. > > > > Cheers > > Robert Salas > > (South Australia) > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

You actually have the capability to do it anyway you want. To me it depends on your goal. If you want to eventually pass on your family story then add enough to make it enjoyable to read. For example, "he resided in named city from 1900 to at least 1940 and he was a farmer throughout those years. ". You can document this with one residence fact and attach all sources. I like to source based on each person so they stand alone when running reports or when writing a story about a group of people or families. If you want to document every source for serious genealogists then list every residence, year, and occupation and provide every source. You can adjust each sentence any way you want. Sue > On Mar 15, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Robert and Torie Salas via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have an ancestor who fathered 10 children with the same > wife over 12 years, and I have now obtained the 10 birth > certificates. Each states that he was a butcher and lived > at the same place. Do people add 10 Occupation facts, each > with a different source and 10 Residence facts, each with a > different source to the one ancestor? I understand that > philosophically / methodologically this is what should be > done but doesn't such activity create a lot of clutter? > > > > This is posted here as I couldn't find anywhere else that > seemed more suitable. If there is, I am happy for > suggestions. > > > > Cheers > > Robert Salas > > (South Australia) > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is no philosophical or methodological reason to do this. Make one residence fact and one occupation fact, use a range for the dates, and attached all the sources to the consolidated facts. On 3/15/2015 4:54 PM, Robert and Torie Salas via wrote: > I have an ancestor who fathered 10 children with the same > wife over 12 years, and I have now obtained the 10 birth > certificates. Each states that he was a butcher and lived > at the same place. Do people add 10 Occupation facts, each > with a different source and 10 Residence facts, each with a > different source to the one ancestor? I understand that > philosophically / methodologically this is what should be > done but doesn't such activity create a lot of clutter? > > > > This is posted here as I couldn't find anywhere else that > seemed more suitable. If there is, I am happy for > suggestions. > > > > Cheers > > Robert Salas > > (South Australia) > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The birth certificates are primary and direct evidence of the birth of the individual. I would not use information from the birth certificate for the father's personal details. That information in considered secondary as the informant is unknown. Also, since it appears to be redundant it would, as you pointed out, "clutter" things. A caveat to that would be if you had conflicting information on the father's details and the birth certificates could corroborate already obtained information. Suzanne On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Robert and Torie Salas via < [email protected]> wrote: > I have an ancestor who fathered 10 children with the same > wife over 12 years, and I have now obtained the 10 birth > certificates. Each states that he was a butcher and lived > at the same place. Do people add 10 Occupation facts, each > with a different source and 10 Residence facts, each with a > different source to the one ancestor? I understand that > philosophically / methodologically this is what should be > done but doesn't such activity create a lot of clutter? > > > > This is posted here as I couldn't find anywhere else that > seemed more suitable. If there is, I am happy for > suggestions. > > > > Cheers > > Robert Salas > > (South Australia) > > > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

ClanDig wrote: > Is there a PlaceFinder for Windows 8.1 ? If you have the PlaceFinder from RM3, it runs fine under Windows 8.1. Jim

Is there a PlaceFinder for Windows 8.1 ?

Hi Joan, I think you will be very pleased to step up to version 6. There were some problems with version 4 in that that I bought it and never used it -- the only version that I I never installed. I think it was due to the change in program engine (not a problem), but the fact it did not have all the reports of version 3 (if I am remembering correctly). Anyway, you don't have to even look at the new features if you don't want to use them. If you want to make use of the additional features when using FamilySearch, you might want to go ahead and get RM7. Otherwise, I have not noticed much difference in the features I regularly use. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: Joan Woodhull via Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [RMagic] Thanks Thanks for all who answered my question. I am using RootsMagic 4, but I have purchased RootsMagic 6, just haven't installed it yet. I do not like change, I would probably still have been using DOS, but look what I would have missed! Thanks again, I will see if 6 solves my problem. ...Joan Woodhull

I never used it much either, not particularly specific with help === but there is a new version which is supposed to be better. Got it but have not used it since RM has come out with a lot of other 'help' stuff to play with!! Pat -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary Finley via Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [RMagic] RootsMagic and GenSmarts I just came across an old CD for GenSmarts Version 2 and realized it is still on my hard drive. It says it connects with RootsMagic 4. I am upgraded to 7. Two questions-Is there a way to get GenSmarts to interface with RM 7? -is GenSmarts obsolete given all the info I can get with RM7? Obviously, I didn't use GenSmarts all that much since I haven't missed it! Thanks for any feedback. Regards, Mary McCanney Finley =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just came across an old CD for GenSmarts Version 2 and realized it is still on my hard drive. It says it connects with RootsMagic 4. I am upgraded to 7. Two questions-Is there a way to get GenSmarts to interface with RM 7? -is GenSmarts obsolete given all the info I can get with RM7? Obviously, I didn't use GenSmarts all that much since I haven't missed it! Thanks for any feedback. Regards, Mary McCanney Finley

Thanks for all who answered my question. I am using RootsMagic 4, but I have purchased RootsMagic 6, just haven't installed it yet. I do not like change, I would probably still have been using DOS, but look what I would have missed! Thanks again, I will see if 6 solves my problem. ...Joan Woodhull

On 12 Mar 2015 at 16:23, Joan Woodhull via wrote: > My Family Search in RootsMagic worked fine for several months, but now > when I click on a person to see what information Family Search has about them, > I get an Error message. It says - Gone API Deprecated (0110) also - Error > #410 Gone API Deprecated (0110). The server Error says - 404 File or > directory not found - any help appreciated. ...Joan Woodhull You could try logging in to FamilySearch directly, and see what has happened there. Look for when and by whom the person was last edited. It could be that there was a duplicate, and someone combined tghem, and theb reference number changed. In RM 6 it is unfortunately not possible to edit the FamilySearch reference number in cases like that. Perhaps that has been fixed in RM 7. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: [email protected] Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525

What version of RootsMagic? Maybe you need to update to 7.0.5 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Joan Woodhull via < [email protected]> wrote: > My Family Search in RootsMagic worked fine for several months, but now > when I click on a person to see what information Family Search has about > them, I get an Error message. It says - Gone API Deprecated (0110) also > - Error #410 Gone API Deprecated (0110). The server Error says - 404 > File or directory not found - any help appreciated. > ...Joan Woodhull > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My Family Search in RootsMagic worked fine for several months, but now when I click on a person to see what information Family Search has about them, I get an Error message. It says - Gone API Deprecated (0110) also - Error #410 Gone API Deprecated (0110). The server Error says - 404 File or directory not found - any help appreciated. ...Joan Woodhull

Joan - What I've found is that it appears as though the person has been moved or had other changes that exclude our match. I unmatch that person and then search for matches to relocate and re-match the person. Don't know if that's the "right" way to do it - but it works for me. I bet "The Roots Magician" has the solution at hand and will jump in. Good Hunting, Love, Lou ________________________________ From: Joan Woodhull via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:23 PM Subject: [RMagic] Family Search Error My Family Search in RootsMagic worked fine for several months, but now when I click on a person to see what information Family Search has about them, I get an Error message. It says - Gone API Deprecated (0110) also - Error #410 Gone API Deprecated (0110). The server Error says - 404 File or directory not found - any help appreciated. ...Joan Woodhull =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>>RM versions has a lot of Note space, but not a general note << I believe this is erroneous. The icon to the right of the yellow black arrow up icon brings up the general note edit screen Paul A. Studly, Esq. Chesterland/Cleveland, OH 440-829-9207 Verizon cell [email protected] Twitter @PaulStudly ________________________________ From: Jon Czarowitz via <[email protected]> To: Leslie Anderson <[email protected]>; Emery St Cyr via <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [RMagic] Tks . . . Is there a "write as you go along" feature? I use a open notepad txt file. I can go from one to the other as needed. I copy and paste if completed, otherwise do just a save so don't lose the thoughts. OH! Don't forget to give it a name to remember. Leave it on desktop so reopening will be easy.. RM versions has a lot of Note space, but not a general note You can use the space on Research Log or To Do as needed, but still not general fort jotting down data as you go to come back to later. Latest update in RM 7 is 7.0.5.0. Best to find something that works for you. Jon On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Leslie Anderson via < [email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Leslie Anderson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Is there a feature in (or a location in ) RM6 where you can store a > > *draft * about an individual? > > > > I don't mean individual items or notes but something more like the > > beginnings of a coherent essay or article about the target ancestor? > > > > Thank you. > > Leslie > > > > > I've been offline for a bit. > I apologize for the delayed response. > Thank you for your suggestions. > > Leslie > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE! =================================== RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I use a open notepad txt file. I can go from one to the other as needed. I copy and paste if completed, otherwise do just a save so don't lose the thoughts. OH! Don't forget to give it a name to remember. Leave it on desktop so reopening will be easy.. RM versions has a lot of Note space, but not a general note You can use the space on Research Log or To Do as needed, but still not general fort jotting down data as you go to come back to later. Latest update in RM 7 is 7.0.5.0. Best to find something that works for you. Jon On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Leslie Anderson via < [email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Leslie Anderson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Is there a feature in (or a location in ) RM6 where you can store a > > *draft * about an individual? > > > > I don't mean individual items or notes but something more like the > > beginnings of a coherent essay or article about the target ancestor? > > > > Thank you. > > Leslie > > > > > I've been offline for a bit. > I apologize for the delayed response. > Thank you for your suggestions. > > Leslie > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Leslie Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Is there a feature in (or a location in ) RM6 where you can store a > *draft * about an individual? > > I don't mean individual items or notes but something more like the > beginnings of a coherent essay or article about the target ancestor? > > Thank you. > Leslie > I've been offline for a bit. I apologize for the delayed response. Thank you for your suggestions. Leslie

When dealing with pedigrees watch out for common ancestors that can make some multiple names come up. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Pat McGrath via < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi: I just (few minutes ago) sent an email with a screenshot of what I > just > discovered AGAIN in my database ---- triplicated couples as parents and > grandparents of EACH OTHER. This is the same thing I came across a few > weeks ago and Bruce thought I had probably accessed a wrong database (could > be possible) and assured me that 'backup/restore' constantly could NOT have > created the problem. > > I ONLY found this one, same as the previous one, as I was randomly doing > some clean-up!!!! > > > > The furthest back backup and/or database I appear to have is February 2014 > .. the triplication of what I found two weeks (or so) ago is NOT in that > database. > > > > The triplication of what I found just now (screenshot TURGEON) IS IN THAT > DATABASE > > > > These folks all only have one ID number, not duplicates. I did finally > find > the person from whom it begins to triplicate (or worse) back. > > > > I have NO IDEA how to search for more of these critters that may exist > throughout my database to fix/untangle them .. > > > > I have NO IDEA what is making it happen .. > > > > I will have lost WAY TOO MUCH DATA that I can't recover if I kill this > database (backup) .. > > > > HELP! > > > > =================================== > RM list Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ROOTSMAGIC-USERS/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=ROOTSMAGIC-USERS > WISH LIST: http://www.rootsmagic.com/forums/ BLOG: > http://blog.rootsmagic.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- *Jon P Czarowitz*, NHC, GF, GGF, IGC Hempel Genealogist since 1986 Retired International Genealogist for http://www.clancunninghamintl.org RootsMagic 7 http://www.rootsmagic.com CUNNINGHAMS TOGETHER - CUNNINGHAMS WORLDWIDE!