The only Francis married to Margaret Pawlett was this: Margaret married Francis PAYNTER of Boskenna, son of Arthur PAYNTER of Trelissick and Mary PRAED5. (Francis PAYNTER of Boskenna was born in 1662.) She was named in her husband's will (according to the author of the lineage), but of course, it did not likely have her father's name. Children listed were: William PAYNTER (d.y.) Arthur PAYNTER (d.y.) Francis PAYNTER+ William PAYNTER Margaret PAYNTER+ Mary PAYNTER+ Elizabeth PAYNTER Jane PAYNTER (d.y.) Arthur PAYNTER Diana PAYNTER For Francis we have: General Notes: Named in his father's will, and in the will of his son-in-law Francis PAYNTER 1716. Town Clerk of Penzance Will 13 Jun 1723, proved 25 Jan 1725 P.C.C. The sources for this appear to be primarily from the IGI. At least one of the trees for Francis and Agnes has this: Francis Paynter (1639 - 1720) Parents William Paynter 1612-69 Jane Keigwin 1610-Unknown Spouses & Children Agnes Leane Unknown-1748 Children . Francis Paynter . Hercules Paynter . John Paynter There were quite a few Francis Paynters, so it is possible that there is a generational issue here. The Francis married to Margaret was born in 1662, the Francis married to Agnes was born 1639. Note, however, that this is only looking at the mostly un-sourced files on the internet. You will have to do the usual legwork -- beginning with the first Paynter in your tree (most recent, that is) and working back one generation at a time. I find the family in Burke's Family Records. In order to read these, you need to understand that the boys are listed and numbered first in a generation. The girls follow, beginning the numbering again. Burke's Family Records, page 468 has: The eldest son, WILLIAM PAYNTER, of Trelissick, m. at St. Paul's co. Cornwall, 23 april, 1632, Jane, said to be a dau. Of Richard Keigwin, of Mousehole, and was buried at St.Erth, 29 March, 1669, leaving issue, I.Arthur, of Trelissick, bapt., at St. Erth, 20 July, 1633, named in Subsidy Roll, 1663, m. Mary, dau of James Praed, and was buried at St. Erth, 12 Dec. 1679 (will dated 30 Oct. 1679, proved 7 June, 1684), having by her, who was buried at St. Erth, 19 March, 1673, had issue, 1. William, of Trelissick, bapt. 1 July 1661 (will dated 23 Aug. proved PCC [Prerogative Court of Canterbury] 4 Sept, 1691). 2. Francis, of Trelissick, heir to his brother, bapt 1 Jun 1662, m 1st, a dau. Of --- Sutherland, and by her had a son, James, who dsp [died without children] He m. 2ndly, 8 July 1706, *Margaret, dau of Francis Paynter, of Boskenna*, and d (will dated 18 May, proved 8 Oct 1720), having by her (will dated 2 Mar 1725, proved 3 March 1727) had issue, (1) Susanna; (2) Margaret, bapt at St. Burian, 2 Oct 1787; and (3) Mary, m 20 Mar 1726, John Hearle of Penrhyn, and had issue, three daus. And co-heiresses. 3. Arthur, bapt. At St. Erth, 18 Sept 1663, buried at Madron, 8 Mar 1681. 4. James, bapt. At St. Erth, 18 Aug 1666 5. Jenkyn, bapt at St. Erth 9 Nov 1668. (more here I won't quote) (page 469) has: II. William (Rev.) bapt 7 Dec 1637, DD Fellow of Exeter Coll. Oxon, and rector of Wootton Hants, Vice-Chancelor of Oxford, d 19 Feb 1714-15. III. FRANCIS, of whom presently. IV. John, bapt 3 Dec 1640, m Barbara Sampson, and d 21 July 1721, leaving issue, 1. John' 2. George; 1. Catherine, m John Roger; 2. Phillippa, m Martin Kelly; 3. Grace, m Roger Hamley; 4 Rebecca, m Edward Bone; 5. Frances, m John Boswothick; 6. Sarah; and 7. Ann. I Elizabeth, bapt. Feb 1635, m Reginald Trenhaile, vicar of Madron, and had issue, a son, James. The third son FRANCIS PAYNTER bapt. At St. Erth, 14 March, 1639, m. at Gwennap, co. Cornwall, 19 Dec. 1681, Agnes, dau. Of --- Leane, and was brued there, 2 May 1720 (will dagted 28 April, proved 6 Oct. 1720), having by her, who was buried at St. Issey 28 Jan. 1748, had issue, i. John, bapt, at Gwennap 5 Nov 1682, buried there 14 Aug 1684 ii. FRANCIS, of whom presently. iii. Hercules, bapt. 5 March, 1687, buried 30 april, 1740 iv. John bapt, 3 June 1689, buried 27 Feb 1732. i. Joan bapt 5 May 1694 ii. Agnes, bapt. 6 Aug 1696 The second son, FRANCIS PAYNTER, bapt. 12 June, 1685, m. 27 June, 1715, Grace, dau. Of Johnson Vyvian (through whom her descendants trace their descent from King Edward I), and was buried 12 May 1750, having by her, who was buried Jan 1758, had issue, i. William, bapt. 11 Aug 1716, buried 4 April, 1725. ii. Hercules, bapt. 24 Jan 1718, buried 25 March 1719 iii. WILLIAM of whom presently. i. Ann, bapt. 11 april 1721, buried 10 March 1723 ii. Ann, bapt. 10 April 1724 iii. Elizabeth, bapt. 24 Jan. 1731. So, what you have here, with Francis of Trelissick, who married a Sutherland, and then married what appears to be a cousin, Margaret, daughter of Francis Paynter of Boskenna. What might have happened is that cousin Margaret Paynter of Boskenna had been married to a Pawlett? Or, that the originators of this tree just flat got it wrong. Nothing in Burkes to identify WHICH Francis Paynter was the father of Margaret, however. She only shows up in the one reference I mentioned. Hope this helps. By the way, in sourcing this, I got it from an image: Ancestry.com. Burke's Family Records (Indexed) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Original data: Burke, Ashworth P. Burke's Family Records. Baltimore, MD, USA: Clearfield Company (Genealogical Publishing Co.), 1994. About Burke's Family Records (Indexed) Burke's Family Records, contained in this database, record the genealogy of the junior houses of British nobility. The "cadets" or younger sons of a noble family did not usually receive inherited lands or titles and their descendents were often overlooked by lineage records of the peerage (titled British nobles). Details of family origins, surnames, events, and locations are recorded for about 300 British cadet lines; some are accompanied by coats of arms. At the beginning of the work is an index of pedigrees and alliances. Author Ashworth P. Burke is the son of Sir Bernard Burke who published many works regarding British genealogy with his father, John Burke Esquire. Sir Bernard and Ashworth co-wrote the Peerage and Baronetage and the Landed Gentry about ancestral lineages of English, Scottish, and Welsh nobility and gentry. Burke's Family Records is meant to supplement the Peerage and Baronetage and there are several additional genealogical works compiled by the Burke family. Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leonie Chirgwin Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:16 AM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Francis PAYNTER There are many references to Francis Paynter,born 1639, on the Internet. Roughly 50% say he married Agnes Leane, and the other 50% say he married Margaret Paulet. He can't have married both,as they were both alive and having children at the same time. S0--which one did he marry, and which Francis Paynter married the other one? thanks, Leonie ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message