Hi Lynn and Pat Thanks very much again for your help, just going to meet Kathy now (Henry's GGGGranddaughter) I'm going to get all my notes that I gave to her from 2010, still making enquires at Cuyahoga and Ohio as well just to double check and see if there is an obituary or bio in some dusty old book somewhere (I wish) anyway will talk to you soon and Lynn I will still keep trying to fix the email problem when I have a clear head. Regards to you both Dianna