Origins have just announced they have completed their own indexing of the 1881 for England and Wales They state they have 25,974,439 individuals Ancestry have England 24,766,872 Wales 1,588,506 ================== Total 26,355,378 ================== The above does not include the Isle of Man, Channel Islands but does include Royal Navy & ships at sea (it used to be very easy to work out the likes of ships at sea but with the *improved*? new search it no longer is) Findmypast have England 24,384,407 Wales 1,573,172 ================== Total 25,957,579 ================== The above does not include the Channel Islands, Isle of Man, Ships at sea ======= Which begs the question of where have all the missing people gone? Or where the extras come from ? Depending upon how you look at it ;-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)