Jim is quite right about surnames so search first name and birth place <G> do it exact and change Jim to James and so on. You should hit it, but then he might have been missed - I have a lot who were caught twice and those who weren't caught at all. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Sid & Nadine Snider via <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have been looking for my dad in the 1940 census. My parents were married in September of 1940 and I’ve found my mother and assume they were living in the same town in Kansas as they worked for the same employer. That is where they met. I’ve tried various forms of his name and all, but so far no luck. He was born in Indian Territory Oklahoma in 1907 13 days before they obtained statehood. So, have looked in Kansas also, thinking he might have gone to visit his grandmother who still lived there. But so far no luck. Does anyone have any suggestions. I have found his mother and younger brother and his older married brother all living in the same county > > Nadine. > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you are depending on Ancestry.com to identify the names with their search system you may not find them. Take the time to look at each page of the census in the towns or townships you think they might live. My family's last name has been transcribed as Lohmeyer (correctly) but depending on the legibility of the census, it has been transcribed as Solmeyer, Lottmire and others. My Laue family becomes Lane, Lamm, Samm etc. The software won't find those discrepancies. It doesn't take long to scan a page with your eyes. When it's someone important it's worth the time to review the document yourself. Most Kansas townships are 10-30 pages long. It may take 3 or 4 townships to find them. Google a map of the townships in the county you think they lived in. Often I find people I wasn't looking for, but since the family was living in communities with other kin, scanning the pages can be interesting even when you don't find what you are looking for. On Wed, Jul 6, 2016, 10:56 PM Sid & Nadine Snider via <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have been looking for my dad in the 1940 census. My parents were > married in September of 1940 and I’ve found my mother and assume they were > living in the same town in Kansas as they worked for the same employer. > That is where they met. I’ve tried various forms of his name and all, but > so far no luck. He was born in Indian Territory Oklahoma in 1907 13 days > before they obtained statehood. So, have looked in Kansas also, thinking he > might have gone to visit his grandmother who still lived there. But so far > no luck. Does anyone have any suggestions. I have found his mother and > younger brother and his older married brother all living in the same county > > Nadine. > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Lori, like Margaret said, siblings will not all have the same matches.  You get about 50% of your DNA from each parent and it's completely random as to what 50% you get.  So, your sibling will likely get a lot of DNA you didn't get from them and vice versa.  That's why it's an excellent idea to test your sibling even though it might not seem like it, since they're so closely related to you. the dna-newbie list is a great place to learn, though a lot of the discussions there are somewhat advanced too.  But you can ask very newbie type questions and the people on the list are very helpful.  Barton On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 01:29 PM, Lori via wrote: > I have a basic (very basic) question about the DNA test. I know there > are > lists to discuss the DNA tests, but they aren't basic enough for me. > Later > when I have more time I'm will delve into this and get up to speed. > > > I took the Ancestry DNA test for myself. We are going on a trip where > we'll > see a family member and I bought the test for him. He agreed to take > it. > He's my brother. Is it possible that the test will show him to be > related > to people that I'm not related to? And BTW, is there a list on > rootsweb or > someplace else which has discussions about DNA which are more basic? > > ~Lori > > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It is so far back in our Ancestry that it likely wouldn't have any effect on our appearance but the DNA is there: http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/new-study-claims-that-irishmen-descended-from-turkish-farmers-83217437-237788351.html Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Lori <america4821@myactv.net> To: 'Joan Young' <jyoung6180@aol.com>; 'ROOTS-L' <ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 10:42 pm Subject: RE: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA I have 2% Middle Eastern as well. I was surprised. I also have Scotch-Irish ancestry. Maybe this is where mine comes from. I'm anxious to see what my brother's results are. My mother always told us that we likely had an Indian ancestor. It was just a family story. I have some ambrotypes (?) of some very dark children. However, my results did not come back with this. It has been very interesting and I wish my parents were still living. After tracing my lineage I learned that my parents were 8th cousins once removed. I am running into matches on both sides which confirm this. Lori I also get a small percentage of Middle Eastern and it appears to come from my Scotch-Irish side. (No fooling.) It seems that many years ago Turkish farmers settled in Ireland and Scotland and intermarried with the local lasses. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Karen Isaacson Leverich via <roots@rootsweb.com> To: Roots mailing list <roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 9:16 pm Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA I just had my aunt (98 years old and vacationing in Alaska!) submit her DNA (um, before she left on the trip) and the results are in. She's definitely my aunt! But her matches aren't the same as mine ... lots of hits in Sweden and Germany (where her parents and my grandparents were born), so I'm quite excited. Not quite sure what to make of her 2% Middle Eastern ancestry (mine was 100% European), and normally I wouldn't stress it, but I'll need to explain to her what that's about, LOL! ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been looking for my dad in the 1940 census. My parents were married in September of 1940 and I’ve found my mother and assume they were living in the same town in Kansas as they worked for the same employer. That is where they met. I’ve tried various forms of his name and all, but so far no luck. He was born in Indian Territory Oklahoma in 1907 13 days before they obtained statehood. So, have looked in Kansas also, thinking he might have gone to visit his grandmother who still lived there. But so far no luck. Does anyone have any suggestions. I have found his mother and younger brother and his older married brother all living in the same county Nadine.

I have 2% Middle Eastern as well. I was surprised. I also have Scotch-Irish ancestry. Maybe this is where mine comes from. I'm anxious to see what my brother's results are. My mother always told us that we likely had an Indian ancestor. It was just a family story. I have some ambrotypes (?) of some very dark children. However, my results did not come back with this. It has been very interesting and I wish my parents were still living. After tracing my lineage I learned that my parents were 8th cousins once removed. I am running into matches on both sides which confirm this. Lori I also get a small percentage of Middle Eastern and it appears to come from my Scotch-Irish side. (No fooling.) It seems that many years ago Turkish farmers settled in Ireland and Scotland and intermarried with the local lasses. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Karen Isaacson Leverich via <roots@rootsweb.com> To: Roots mailing list <roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 9:16 pm Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA I just had my aunt (98 years old and vacationing in Alaska!) submit her DNA (um, before she left on the trip) and the results are in. She's definitely my aunt! But her matches aren't the same as mine ... lots of hits in Sweden and Germany (where her parents and my grandparents were born), so I'm quite excited. Not quite sure what to make of her 2% Middle Eastern ancestry (mine was 100% European), and normally I wouldn't stress it, but I'll need to explain to her what that's about, LOL! ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also get a small percentage of Middle Eastern and it appears to come from my Scotch-Irish side. (No fooling.) It seems that many years ago Turkish farmers settled in Ireland and Scotland and intermarried with the local lasses. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Karen Isaacson Leverich via <roots@rootsweb.com> To: Roots mailing list <roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 9:16 pm Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA I just had my aunt (98 years old and vacationing in Alaska!) submit her DNA (um, before she left on the trip) and the results are in. She's definitely my aunt! But her matches aren't the same as mine ... lots of hits in Sweden and Germany (where her parents and my grandparents were born), so I'm quite excited. Not quite sure what to make of her 2% Middle Eastern ancestry (mine was 100% European), and normally I wouldn't stress it, but I'll need to explain to her what that's about, LOL! ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just had my aunt (98 years old and vacationing in Alaska!) submit her DNA (um, before she left on the trip) and the results are in. She's definitely my aunt! But her matches aren't the same as mine ... lots of hits in Sweden and Germany (where her parents and my grandparents were born), so I'm quite excited. Not quite sure what to make of her 2% Middle Eastern ancestry (mine was 100% European), and normally I wouldn't stress it, but I'll need to explain to her what that's about, LOL!

I believe both Ancestry and FTDNA have some good explanatory material about how DNA works. If you "google" DNA, you can find videos from various places, some relatively easy to understand and others not. To answer your question, you and your brother will not have all the same matches. We did 4 kits for siblings in my family. Many matches are the same, but a number are not. It has to do with with how the DNA sequences are arranged. You need to have a certain number in a row that match with others. Siblings do not inherit exactly the same DNA unless they are identical twins, and I am not sure whether or not there can be variations there. Margaret Scheffler -----Original Message----- From: Lori via Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:29 PM To: 'ROOTS-L' Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA I have a basic (very basic) question about the DNA test. I know there are lists to discuss the DNA tests, but they aren't basic enough for me. Later when I have more time I'm will delve into this and get up to speed. I took the Ancestry DNA test for myself. We are going on a trip where we'll see a family member and I bought the test for him. He agreed to take it. He's my brother. Is it possible that the test will show him to be related to people that I'm not related to? And BTW, is there a list on rootsweb or someplace else which has discussions about DNA which are more basic? ~Lori

Okay, that’s what I was thinking. Thanks, Joan. Lori -------------------- Yes, it is possible that your sibling may have matches you don't and vice versa because of the random inheritance if autosomal DNA. That doesn't mean you are not related to the same people only that one of you lost the matching segment with the other person. There is a Facebook group you might find helpful: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dnanewbie/ Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com

I have a basic (very basic) question about the DNA test. I know there are lists to discuss the DNA tests, but they aren't basic enough for me. Later when I have more time I'm will delve into this and get up to speed. I took the Ancestry DNA test for myself. We are going on a trip where we'll see a family member and I bought the test for him. He agreed to take it. He's my brother. Is it possible that the test will show him to be related to people that I'm not related to? And BTW, is there a list on rootsweb or someplace else which has discussions about DNA which are more basic? ~Lori

Genealogy on the TRAME Family

According to docdat.com, the website was last updated in 2015. According to Alexa, the primary visitors are from Eastern Europe. According to GoDaddy, it is registered by one Damir Adamanov, private person, in the Crimea. I went to the website and the language is Cyrillic or Russian. I ran through the index and all the papers (the first couple pages of the index) I looked at were scientific, mostly chemistry. There are thirteen documents with "genealogy" as a key word, including "the Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy" and a bunch of other similar material. Maybe the guy is a genealogist with some American relatives? Now, as to your paper. Did you ever send it via email. Perhaps to yourself? Did you ever upload it? Maybe to a cloud server? This site looks pretty tame (in other words, doesn't look like a site that is going to download bad stuff to your computer, but safe rather than sorry, don't download anything here.) Otherwise, I don't know what to say about this. It is certainly rather odd. Pat Dunford Tucson | -----Original Message----- | From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] | On Behalf Of jbletch via | Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 2:02 AM | To: roots@rootsweb.com | Subject: [ROOTS-L] how could my info show up on docdata.com | | The oddest thing has happened and I would like to know if any one can explain | it. | I wrote up a history on word, titled "Strong Family of Port Hope" stuck in a | notebook for the day any of my family showed an interest. I shared bits and | pieces with others over the years but never copied verbatim what I had written. | Today I was trying to find a detail of one of the couples and typed on google | "Walter Kittredge and Eliza Jane Strong" | A hit came up on something called kk.docdat.com. The site appears to be in | code or an unknown language. | My entire chapter on this couple is copied verbatim along with a notation of | page 3, which this chapter started on. | I typed this up about three years ago. | what the heck??? | ===== | If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots- | admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS- | request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the | subject and the body of the message

The oddest thing has happened and I would like to know if any one can explain it. I wrote up a history on word, titled "Strong Family of Port Hope" stuck in a notebook for the day any of my family showed an interest. I shared bits and pieces with others over the years but never copied verbatim what I had written. Today I was trying to find a detail of one of the couples and typed on google "Walter Kittredge and Eliza Jane Strong" A hit came up on something called kk.docdat.com. The site appears to be in code or an unknown language. My entire chapter on this couple is copied verbatim along with a notation of page 3, which this chapter started on. I typed this up about three years ago. what the heck???

I have several land transaction deeds which H. G. Dunbar and Edna S. Dunbar signed. These deeds cover a period around 1890 in Crossville, Tenn.. They are of no use to me and if anyone of this linage would like to have them email your address to Jamesgrimes@comcast.net James Grimes "Saved by Grace" Ephesians 2:8-9

I have a family bible from the James Fisher family that I would like to return to this family James Fisher b. 7-23-1835, Wayne Co., OH, CW vet. d. 1888 prob. El Dorado, Butler Co., KS. m 1st. Mary Olive Chambers b. 1-14- 1841 (can’t read third # of the year) on 11-4-1868 in Louisville, Clay Co., IL, d. 10-10-1871 m 2nd Alcinda M. Ross on 4-20-1873 in Clay Co., IL, b. 9-25-1844 in Marion Co., W VA d. 8-29-1922 child of James & Alcinda-Mary Gertrude Fisher b. Butler Co., KS, d. 2-18-1913 of consumption age 33y, 8 mo. & 2 d. (obit) obit states 3 brothers, George of Kansas City, MO., Sherman & John of El Dorado, [Butler Co., OH] Bible is big and heavy 12x10x3.5 in. Cathy Keeler

RH Blood Factor: You are fine with RH negative blood. It is the women with Rh negative blood that had the problem, and only if the father was Rh positive and the baby was Rh positive. Two Rh negative parents would not have any problem. Generally the first 2 babies managed OK. Each RH incompatible pregnancy ( mother neg and baby positive) cause antibodies to be formed, causing more problems with subsequent pregnancies. My mother was Rh neg and my Dad was positive. Babies 5 and 6 had problems. Probably not a factor in a single pregnancy. In the 1900's infant and childhood mortality was high. There were also epidemics. Kathy Kathy Walsh On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 3:02 AM, <roots-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > If you respond to this digest, please replace the subject line of > your response (so it doesn't read "Re: ROOTS-L Digest") and please don't > quote the digest ... a few lines from the message to which you are > responding or (better still) a brief summary of that message will do. > Thanks! > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RH blood factor (Barbara Young) > 2. Christopher and Arabella FULLER (dianna charles) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 07:58:25 -0400 > From: Barbara Young <bayofcc@comcast.net> > Subject: [ROOTS-L] RH blood factor > To: ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <57765AE1.5050702@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I have RH- blood and, luckily, had no problems with either of my children. > > I have often wondered why my father was an only child but never asked. > He was the maternal grandson of the subject family. I am now in > possession of a photo that was taken around 1900 +/- ? number of years. > It is from a glass negative. > > This photo is possibly of my ggrandparents and their children. I know of > only two children of that marriage and there are five in the picture. I > have since found that three died at varying young ages. > > With only that information, I am inclined to wonder if they died because > the blood type. > > What might have been cited, back then, as cause of death? > > Thank you very much. > Barbara in MA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 07:54:21 +1000 > From: "dianna charles" <diamonddi57@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Christopher and Arabella FULLER > To: <Roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <8734865A049F4AF3B58F79BD966F261F@DESKTOP> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi everyone > I?m looking for information on the above couple as I have been trying > to find a picture of Christopher Henry FULLER and wife Arabella nee FYE to > compare with my other ?Fuller Family Photos?. Also anyone else doing > research on this family > > Christopher Henry FULLER > Son of Henry FULLER and Mary Ann ROSE > b Dec 19 1855 Co Armstrong PA > d Oct 4 1930 Oconto Falls WI > m Arabella FYE 1874 > > Children: (7) a) William Henry b) John c) Adeline= Collier b) Samuel > Franklin e) George Harrison f) Orin Arnold g) Matilda = Coopman h) > Elizabeth = August PAGEL 1914 WI . Kind regards Dianna > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ROOTS mailing list, send an email to > ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ROOTS Digest, Vol 11, Issue 77 > ************************************* >

The children may have had an RH factor or an ABO blood type incompatibility. Now we can keep these children alive with Rhogam and blood transfusions. Then children died. On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 1:02 AM, <roots-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > If you respond to this digest, please replace the subject line of > your response (so it doesn't read "Re: ROOTS-L Digest") and please don't > quote the digest ... a few lines from the message to which you are > responding or (better still) a brief summary of that message will do. > Thanks! > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RH blood factor (Barbara Young) > 2. Christopher and Arabella FULLER (dianna charles) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 07:58:25 -0400 > From: Barbara Young <bayofcc@comcast.net> > Subject: [ROOTS-L] RH blood factor > To: ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <57765AE1.5050702@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I have RH- blood and, luckily, had no problems with either of my children. > > I have often wondered why my father was an only child but never asked. > He was the maternal grandson of the subject family. I am now in > possession of a photo that was taken around 1900 +/- ? number of years. > It is from a glass negative. > > This photo is possibly of my ggrandparents and their children. I know of > only two children of that marriage and there are five in the picture. I > have since found that three died at varying young ages. > > With only that information, I am inclined to wonder if they died because > the blood type. > > What might have been cited, back then, as cause of death? > > Thank you very much. > Barbara in MA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 07:54:21 +1000 > From: "dianna charles" <diamonddi57@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Christopher and Arabella FULLER > To: <Roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <8734865A049F4AF3B58F79BD966F261F@DESKTOP> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi everyone > I?m looking for information on the above couple as I have been trying > to find a picture of Christopher Henry FULLER and wife Arabella nee FYE to > compare with my other ?Fuller Family Photos?. Also anyone else doing > research on this family > > Christopher Henry FULLER > Son of Henry FULLER and Mary Ann ROSE > b Dec 19 1855 Co Armstrong PA > d Oct 4 1930 Oconto Falls WI > m Arabella FYE 1874 > > Children: (7) a) William Henry b) John c) Adeline= Collier b) Samuel > Franklin e) George Harrison f) Orin Arnold g) Matilda = Coopman h) > Elizabeth = August PAGEL 1914 WI . Kind regards Dianna > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ROOTS mailing list, send an email to > ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ROOTS Digest, Vol 11, Issue 77 > ************************************* >

Infants who have problems with a blood type other than their mother's suffer from something called Erythroblastosis fetalis. This refers to two potentially disabling or fatal blood disorders in infants: Rh incompatibility disease and ABO incompatibility disease. Either disease may be apparent before birth and can cause fetal death in some cases. The disorder is caused by incompatibility between a mother's blood and her unborn baby's blood. Because of the incompatibility, the mother's immune system may launch an immune response against the baby's red blood cells. As a result, the baby's blood cells are destroyed, and the baby may suffer severe anemia (deficiency in red blood cells), brain damage, or death. Generally this condition is a problem during pregnancy and in the period immediately after delivery. It would be obvious at the time of delivery or within a day or two after delivery - depending on the severity of the disease. If your children were old enough for all of them to be together in a photograph then their cause of death would not be Erythroblastosis Fetalis. There could, however, be some other genetic condition that could cause death of a number of children in the same family. Vicky Drake dvicky@cox.net 1. RH blood factor (Barbara Young) 2. Christopher and Arabella FULLER (dianna charles) ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi everyone I’m looking for information on the above couple as I have been trying to find a picture of Christopher Henry FULLER and wife Arabella nee FYE to compare with my other “Fuller Family Photos”. Also anyone else doing research on this family Christopher Henry FULLER Son of Henry FULLER and Mary Ann ROSE b Dec 19 1855 Co Armstrong PA d Oct 4 1930 Oconto Falls WI m Arabella FYE 1874 Children: (7) a) William Henry b) John c) Adeline= Collier b) Samuel Franklin e) George Harrison f) Orin Arnold g) Matilda = Coopman h) Elizabeth = August PAGEL 1914 WI . Kind regards Dianna