Thank you all for the suggestions. I will check those out. I wrote "Some use Mac, some Wintel, so I would like recommendations for both." Apparently I should have written "Some use Mac so I want Mac software for them. Some use Wintel so I want Wintel software for them." As I said, low price and ease of viewing are important. If anyone has further suggestions, I will welcome them too. adTHANKSvance!

Yes, that is a Mac version Not the Windows version The Mac version will only work on a Mac computer The Windows version will only work on a Windows computer (unless to use a Windows emulator on a Mac) ie they are not compatible for both Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14/07/2016 22:44, MScheffler via wrote: >>From the Rootsmagic webpage: > > RootsMagic for Mac is different than other solutions you may be familiar > with. For starters, it does not install Windows on your Mac. It also does > not create a slow and bulky virtual computer. It runs right on your Mac, > using your Mac file system. You can even put the RootsMagic icon on your > dock for easy one-click access! So while we are busily working on an actual > native Mac version of RootsMagic, RootsMagic 7 for Mac gives you the ability > to work on a Mac today.

According to the Rootsmagic web page It is not Mac compatible But it can be run using a Windows emulator which of course would be true of any windows software I know of no software that will run on a Mac and Windows without an emulator http://www.rootsmagic.co.uk/about/compatibility.php Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14/07/2016 20:41, MScheffler via wrote: > Rootsmagic works on both Windows platforms and Mac. > M.Scheffler > > -----Original Message----- > From: jan via > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Software for Non-Genealogists? > > Considering no proprogram can run cross platfirm, do a pedigree/family > chart and an ancestor report starting with them and do it in a pdf, > which is cross platform and works well. > > jan > > On 07/14/2016 11:32 AM, Carol Botteron via wrote: >> Looking for free or inexpensive software that can import a GEDCOM file and >> display a tree in a >> way that is clear to a non-genealogist. I have done research for several >> relatives and friends, >> who are not interested in doing further research but would like to see >> their own family trees etc. >> >> Some use Mac, some Wintel, so I would like recommendations for both. >> adTHANKSvance!

Regarding software for non-genealogists, a previous responder suggested creating a pdf. This is a decent option, the receiver can read information like a book. Another option - my program/s (I have two) both offer the capability for creating a website. Create your website using the program and save it to your local disk. You can then e-mail this data, as an attachment, to your relative. This file can be rather large for emailing, you may want to burn a disc with the website data. When it is opened the remote computer ( Mac, Linux, and Windows) will prompt to select a web browser to read the information. They can navigate around as if at a website. Carl

>From the Rootsmagic webpage: RootsMagic for Mac is different than other solutions you may be familiar with. For starters, it does not install Windows on your Mac. It also does not create a slow and bulky virtual computer. It runs right on your Mac, using your Mac file system. You can even put the RootsMagic icon on your dock for easy one-click access! So while we are busily working on an actual native Mac version of RootsMagic, RootsMagic 7 for Mac gives you the ability to work on a Mac today. -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via According to the Rootsmagic web page It is not Mac compatible But it can be run using a Windows emulator which of course would be true of any windows software....... Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14/07/2016 20:41, MScheffler via wrote: > Rootsmagic works on both Windows platforms and Mac. > M.Scheffler > On 07/14/2016 11:32 AM, Carol Botteron via wrote: >> Looking for free or inexpensive software that can import a GEDCOM file >> and >> display a tree in a >> way that is clear to a non-genealogist. I have done research for several >> relatives and friends, >> who are not interested in doing further research but would like to see >> their own family trees etc. >> >> Some use Mac, some Wintel, so I would like recommendations for both. >> adTHANKSvance!

Rootsmagic works on both Windows platforms and Mac. M.Scheffler -----Original Message----- From: jan via Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Software for Non-Genealogists? Considering no proprogram can run cross platfirm, do a pedigree/family chart and an ancestor report starting with them and do it in a pdf, which is cross platform and works well. jan On 07/14/2016 11:32 AM, Carol Botteron via wrote: > Looking for free or inexpensive software that can import a GEDCOM file and > display a tree in a > way that is clear to a non-genealogist. I have done research for several > relatives and friends, > who are not interested in doing further research but would like to see > their own family trees etc. > > Some use Mac, some Wintel, so I would like recommendations for both. > adTHANKSvance!

Considering no proprogram can run cross platfirm, do a pedigree/family chart and an ancestor report starting with them and do it in a pdf, which is cross platform and works well. HTH jan On 07/14/2016 11:32 AM, Carol Botteron via wrote: > Looking for free or inexpensive software that can import a GEDCOM file and display a tree in a > way that is clear to a non-genealogist. I have done research for several relatives and friends, > who are not interested in doing further research but would like to see their own family trees etc. > > Some use Mac, some Wintel, so I would like recommendations for both. adTHANKSvance! > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for free or inexpensive software that can import a GEDCOM file and display a tree in a way that is clear to a non-genealogist. I have done research for several relatives and friends, who are not interested in doing further research but would like to see their own family trees etc. Some use Mac, some Wintel, so I would like recommendations for both. adTHANKSvance!

Hi everyone Thanks to you that answered in reference to the above, re Leno FULLIN/FULLIM etc (such weird spelling) on the 1830 Census, well could be Magdalena? Will just pencil it in on the timeline for now at least it is something. Regards and thanks Dianna

Hi everyone Could someone tell me please IF the 1830 Census is available online anywhere for Washington County PA. I am trying to find the “Fullum’s” mentioned there around Robinson Twp (and other Twp’s) in Washington. I have this which was found by a researcher I have hired to find information, don’t know why it is not available from familysearch, Ancestry or ?? Any help finding other “Fullum” family members would be very much appreciated. Kind regards Dianna 1830 Census lists a Leno Fullim [Magdalena?] with all columns blank on page one under “free white persons.” However, under “Free Colored Persons”: 2 males < 10 1 male 10–23 1 male 36–54 1 male 55–99 3 females < 10 2 females 10–23 1 female 24–35 1 female 36–54 Total of 12 people in the household

From my own experience some years ago, I discovered that _you have to be very careful with_ _"Washington County' terminology_ before the 1850 census records. My people were living in _Armstrong and Indiana Counties_ _in 'Washington Township'_. As several of the family names in the 1850 census, were not found in "Washington County" I decided to look for those names _in the two counties where I knew that they should be. And there they were!_ Also be careful of county boundaries. I had been unable to find very early records in Huntingdon county and then a clue came about that prehaps they were in the parent county of Bedford, and there they were, approximately 10-15 years before they were listed in Huntingdon county records. Susan E, On 7/12/2016 7:47 AM, Mark Shaffer via wrote: > Here are some Pennsylvania 1830 census films. You'll have to check if with > Washington County is one of them. > > https://archive.org/details/1830_census?and[]=subject%3A%22Pennsylvania%22 > > Mark > > > On 7/12/2016 3:00 AM, roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> [ROOTS-L] 1830 CENSUS > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Here are some Pennsylvania 1830 census films. You'll have to check if Washington County is one of them. https://archive.org/details/1830_census?and[]=subject%3A%22Pennsylvania%22 Mark On 7/12/2016 3:00 AM, roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > [ROOTS-L] 1830 CENSUS

Regarding query by Dianna Charles, "Any help finding other ?Fullum? family members would be very much appreciated. Kind regards Dianna" Using ancestry.com, searching on: len* in Washington county, pa, I found the family, I believe. Note: changing from html to plain text removed formatting, but the data is still understandable. I saved the image of the census page if you need it. Sue A. Name: Leno Trullim [Leno Fllins]  Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Robinson, Washington, Pennsylvania Free Colored Persons - Males - Under 10: 2 Free Colored Persons - Males - 10 thru 23: 1 Free Colored Persons - Males - 36 thru 54: 1 Free Colored Persons - Males - 55 thru 99: 1 Free Colored Persons - Females - Under 10: 3 Free Colored Persons - Females - 10 thru 23: 2 Free Colored Persons - Females - 24 thru 35: 1 Free Colored Persons - Females - 36 thru 54: 1 Total Free Colored Persons: 12 Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 12

On 6/26/16, 12:00 AM, roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: <much snipped> > > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 20:56:39 -0400 > From: "Barton Lewis"<bartonlewis@optonline.net> > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Interpreting DNA results > To: "'MScheffler'"<mscheffler@verizon.net>,<Roots-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<004d01d1cf45$993a1a70$cbae4f50$@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > You can transfer your kit from Ancestry to FTDNA for only $39. There you will see your matches and precisely where they match you on your chromosomes. You will have the benefit of having your DNA at both companies, with their separate databases which don't always (or even mostly) overlap. > > > I'm not sure what my problem is, but I'm not seeing good instructions on either AncestryDNA or FTDNA about how to do this. I did the download from Ancestry to my hard drive OK, but it then says on FTDNA to click "Upload Raw Data" to select the file. I can't see anything there about uploading anything, nor does a broader google search answer this. Anybody have an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Dick Stephens

I don't remember the date for the 1940 census but if before the marriage date they would be listed where they were living on official date of census. Sally Smith -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sid & Nadine Snider via Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 8:54 PM To: roots; ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Question about 1940 census I have been looking for my dad in the 1940 census. My parents were married in September of 1940 and I’ve found my mother and assume they were living in the same town in Kansas as they worked for the same employer. That is where they met. I’ve tried various forms of his name and all, but so far no luck. He was born in Indian Territory Oklahoma in 1907 13 days before they obtained statehood. So, have looked in Kansas also, thinking he might have gone to visit his grandmother who still lived there. But so far no luck. Does anyone have any suggestions. I have found his mother and younger brother and his older married brother all living in the same county Nadine. ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't forget though that the ethnicity comparisons sometimes include ancient DNA samples. So, yes, that facet of DNA testing CAN be reflected in our DNA. Anyone who has used the ancient ethnicity tools on GEDMatch can tell you that. I learned from a single SNP that I had Middle Eastern Arab ancestry years ago from my health reports on 23andme. I have a non-ABO blood antigen that only 8% of Europeans have but 25% of the Arabic population in the Middle East have. The origin of the mutation is the Middle East even though on 23andme there wasn't enough DNA remaining of that origin to show up other than through my single mutation. In a forum on 23andme we discussed the ancestry of those of us who 1) were 100% European and 2) had the non-ABO blood mutation. The only thing we all had in common was Irish or Scotch-Irish ancestry. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Joan Young via <roots@rootsweb.com> To: JYoung6180 <JYoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 3:35 pm Subject: PML Search Result matching "Joan Young" ===================================================================== A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ===================================================================== Source: ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA It is so far back in our Ancestry that it likely wouldn't have any effect on our appearance but the DNA is there: http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/new-study-claims-that-irishmen-descended-from-turkish-farmers-83217437-237788351.html Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Lori <america4821@myactv.net> To: 'Joan Young' <jyoung6180@aol.com>; 'ROOTS-L' <ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 10:42 pm Subject: RE: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA I have 2% Middle Eastern as well. I was surprised. I also have Scotch-Irish ancestry. Maybe this is where mine comes from. I'm anxious to see what my brother's results are. My mother always told us that we likely had an Indian ancestor. It was just a family story. I have some ambrotypes (?) of some very dark children. However, my results did not come back with this. It has been very interesting and I wish my parents were still living. After tracing my lineage I learned that my parents were 8th cousins once removed. I am running into matches on both sides which confirm this. Lori I also get a small percentage of Middle Eastern and it appears to come from my Scotch-Irish side. (No fooling.) It seems that many years ago Turkish farmers settled in Ireland and Scotland and intermarried with the local lasses. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Karen Isaacson Leverich via <roots@rootsweb.com> To: Roots mailing list <roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 9:16 pm Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA I just had my aunt (98 years old and vacationing in Alaska!) submit her DNA (um, before she left on the trip) and the results are in. She's definitely my aunt! But her matches aren't the same as mine ... lots of hits in Sweden and Germany (where her parents and my grandparents were born), so I'm quite excited. Not quite sure what to make of her 2% Middle Eastern ancestry (mine was 100% European), and normally I wouldn't stress it, but I'll need to explain to her what that's about, LOL! ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Jul 7, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Karen Isaacson Leverich via <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: Got an eloquent request this morning to remind everyone how important it is to TRIM OFF most of the quoted material in responses to ROOTS messages. << The above trimming was done by simply highlighting that portion of the message BEFORE hitting “reply” so you are ready to type your response and move along to better stuff. Gale Gorman

Just a general census question that I should already know the answer to... In the 1820 census images of a rural area, are the names shown generally in a close physical location? I think I've seen some census images for some years that seem to be in alphabetical order, indicating maybe recopying of the census for that purpose, but my specific case isn't that. I think US censuses generally are shown in a location/neighbor/address arrangement, correct? Specifically, this is for Washington County, KY. Thanks, Dick Stephens

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Hi all! Got an eloquent request this morning to remind everyone how important it is to TRIM OFF most of the quoted material in responses to ROOTS messages. Why? Well, among other things, all the messages from the day get clumped together into the digest. People reading the digest just scroll through it. So if the first message is a request for information, and the second a response (quoting the full request AND the directions on how to unsubscribe), and the third message is a response to that response (quoting the entire second message, so thus another copy of the first message, plus TWO copies of the directions on how to unsubscribe), and the fourth message ... You get my drift. I've been told that etiquette "requires" that one quote the entire message to which one is responding. No, it doesn't. List etiquette is to quote nothing or just a snippet, so there's context for the response. Everything else is unnecessary fluff. I've been told that the e-mail program being used doesn't "allow" for the original message to be trimmed off. Yes, it does. But I don't use the same program (anyone else still using elm?), so I can't explain how. In gmail, just highlight the whole thing and hit backspace, poof!, it's gone. I've been told that the quoted material wasn't even there, when the response was written. Presumably hackers or some such inserted it, after "send" was hit. Nope, it was there all along. On gmail, it's those three greyed out dots at the bottom ... click on them and boom! there's all that quoted material. I've been told none of this works when using a SmartPhone. Maybe, I don't know, but check out the next suggestion. If all else fails, just start a NEW message. Address it to roots@rootsweb.com, but something descriptive in the subject line, add a bit of context and carry on: I was interested to read Susie's query about the Griznatch family of Puyallup. I have a Griznatch connection, but in Boston. Etc. Have a great day! Karen karen@mtpinos.com P.S. I don't really have any Griznatches and probably Susie doesn't, either.