Yes that is my FULLER/FULLUMS will drive me to drink, me thinks LOL. Dianna -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth D Hanebury Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:57 PM To: roots@rootsweb com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] 1870 Census Me I think anything to get is going is good! Is this one of your Full*? On May 27, 2017, at 11:22 PM, dianna charles <diamonddi57@optusnet.com.au> wrote: HI Found the sneeky thing it is the 1870 Census of Russel County Virginia. Thanks and sorry about that. LOL. Dianna ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List I hope someone can help me back track a document I believe I found on ancestry?? Is there anyway to find it from this description:- dvm_LocHist000282-00051-0. I feel really silly having to ask but it is quite important really. I can forward the document on if that helps. Kindest regards with a red face. Dianna

And maybe having the name and date?? or am I assuming too much G> Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Joan Young via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I think you would have to know what database the document was included in. > > > > > > Joan Young > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dianna charles <diamonddi57@optusnet.com.au> > To: Joan Young via <roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, May 27, 2017 8:07 pm > Subject: [ROOTS-L] How to refind a document > > Hi List > I hope someone can help me back track a document I believe I found on ancestry?? Is there anyway to find it from this description:- dvm_LocHist000282-00051-0. I feel really silly having to ask but it is quite important really. I can forward the document on if that helps. Kindest regards with a red face. Dianna > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Surf thru https://www.americanancestors.org/index.aspx Which is the website for New England Historical Genealogical Society they call it the portal for family genealogists There is also their Library portal where you can find sources for their Salem db (if you pay $$$ you can see them too <G>) https://library.nehgs.org/ Also this might give you a place to find where what is History of the Salem Witch Trials – History of Massachusetts Blog historyofmassachusetts.org/the-salem-witch-trials/ Aug 18, 2011 - Events of the Salem Witch Trials: Afflicted Girls: Elizabeth Booth. Court of Oyer and Terminer Judges: Jonathan Corwin. Found Guilty and Executed: Bridget Bishop (June 10, 1692) Refused to enter a plea and tortured to death: Found Guilty and Pardoned: Pled Guilty and Pardoned: Died in Prison: Escaped from Prison: Have fun!! Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 6:03 AM, jbletch--- via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Family touring MA in a few weeks. Where is the best place to find information on the Salem witch trials? > There is a Salem Witch Museum but I was told it is not worth the money. Video presentation and some live acting but little in the way of > document copies or much info. > > thanks, > JBletch@aol.com > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Family touring MA in a few weeks. Where is the best place to find information on the Salem witch trials? There is a Salem Witch Museum but I was told it is not worth the money. Video presentation and some live acting but little in the way of document copies or much info. thanks, JBletch@aol.com

netiquette Just please trim your posts!Don't just add your note to the bottom of a whole bunch ofprevious replies.  Just add the pertinent sentences so itcan be readily understood and followed. For those of us who get these in Digest Form it's really a painto wade through.   And even for those who don't...     Pauline  "A woman is never too old when it comes to the dance she knows."   African Proverb On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:03 AM, "roots-request@rootsweb.com" <roots-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Send ROOTS mailing list submissions to     roots@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/roots or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     roots-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at     roots-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ROOTS digest..." If you respond to this digest, please replace the subject line of your response (so it doesn't read "Re: ROOTS-L Digest") and please don't quote the digest ... a few lines from the message to which you are responding or (better still) a brief summary of that message will do. Thanks! Today's Topics:   1. protocol question (Mark Butler)   2. Re: protocol question (Joan Young)   3. Re: protocol question (Lori ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 07:42:30 -0700 From: "Mark Butler" <mbutler532011@gmail.com> To: <roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ROOTS-L] protocol question Message-ID: <00dc01d2d309$a46dc770$ed495650$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" What's the protocol when I have a question about someone's post. Do I send it roots-wide or reply back to them. I am assuming if it is not of general interest to all I would do a direct email, but I know a lot of people are careful of their email addresses and may not want direct contact except through a relatively safe network. Mark ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 10:51:48 -0400 From: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] protocol question Message-ID: <15c30a48b12-c01-15b7d@webjasstg-vaa09.srv.aolmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, Mark- You can reply to the list or personally to the individual if you wish to. Most choose to reply to the list for genealogical purposes unless the query is a personal one. Since RootsWeb mailing lists only allow subscribers to post to the lists and are plain text only, there is little danger of anything harmful or spammy coming through the list--although it is always wise to not click on ANY link in an email that you are not sure is safe. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Butler <mbutler532011@gmail.com> To: roots <roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 22, 2017 10:43 am Subject: [ROOTS-L] protocol question What's the protocol when I have a question about someone's post. Do I send it roots-wide or reply back to them. I am assuming if it is not of general interest to all I would do a direct email, but I know a lot of people are careful of their email addresses and may not want direct contact except through a relatively safe network. Mark ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 12:30:29 -0400 From: "Lori " <america4821@myactv.net> To: <roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] protocol question Message-ID: <002301d2d318$ba520920$2ef61b60$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please reply to the list unless it's personal.  This list gets little traffic and some of us might be interested in the subject. Lori -----Original Message----- From: ROOTS [mailto:roots-bounces+america4821=myactv.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Butler Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:43 AM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] protocol question What's the protocol when I have a question about someone's post ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the ROOTS list administrator, send an email to ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ROOTS mailing list, send an email to ROOTS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of ROOTS Digest, Vol 12, Issue 160 **************************************

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Please reply to the list unless it's personal. This list gets little traffic and some of us might be interested in the subject. Lori -----Original Message----- From: ROOTS [mailto:roots-bounces+america4821=myactv.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Butler Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:43 AM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] protocol question What's the protocol when I have a question about someone's post

Hi, Mark- You can reply to the list or personally to the individual if you wish to. Most choose to reply to the list for genealogical purposes unless the query is a personal one. Since RootsWeb mailing lists only allow subscribers to post to the lists and are plain text only, there is little danger of anything harmful or spammy coming through the list--although it is always wise to not click on ANY link in an email that you are not sure is safe. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Butler <mbutler532011@gmail.com> To: roots <roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 22, 2017 10:43 am Subject: [ROOTS-L] protocol question What's the protocol when I have a question about someone's post. Do I send it roots-wide or reply back to them. I am assuming if it is not of general interest to all I would do a direct email, but I know a lot of people are careful of their email addresses and may not want direct contact except through a relatively safe network. Mark ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've had some cool finds. One is that distant great grandfather lost his head at the Tower of London. I had known I had English background. But, was shocked when I got my DNA done to find that I am 80% Great Britain. Another find was that several years ago I had made contact with a lady that I knew we were of the same line. Her mother just had her DNA done and her mother and I are 3rd cousins. Another bit of proof of the connection. My husband just had a neat find too. We knew of one family name and knew this man was his 10th great grandfather. Just found information that he came on the Mayflower. Apparently he got in a bit of trouble too. As, he ran an inn., tavern combination and was fined for selling liquor on the "Lords Day". Fun to see will be the next new thing we find out. Nadine

My mother would have loved this DNA stuff. I wonder how many people find something shocking in their results? I know some do because I've heard and read about it. Genealogy is a lot more fun with people to talk about it with. There used to be a group of us who were studying one line. We were all distant cousins and were looking for proof. I get about 1/3 responses to people I write to. I always check to see when they last signed on. Lori -----Original Message----- From: ROOTS [mailto:roots-bounces+america4821=myactv.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MScheffler Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 12:48 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Yes there are a few of us who become addicted to this hobby and most of us have had people roll their eyes at an explanation of one's newest find With the DNA I have learned a lesson. I often

Margaret- One lesson I've learned in contacting my DNA matches on Ancestry is to always include my email contact address. Many matches who don't have an Ancestry subscription don't realize that they can responde via the messaging system but will reply via email. One point I'd add about the value of DNA added to traditional genealogical research is that it can (for some) turn their entire family tree upside down. People often lie but DNA doesn't as long as the person reading the results understands how to interpret what the DNA shows. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: MScheffler <mscheffler@verizon.net> To: roots <roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, May 21, 2017 12:48 pm Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Yes there are a few of us who become addicted to this hobby and most of us have had people roll their eyes at an explanation of one's newest find With the DNA I have learned a lesson. I often write a short message on the DNA message system to "matches" I am interested in or to people that I have information to share that I think they might like. I will give them a set of parents, a spouse, etc. and see if they write back. I prefer corresponding with regular email instead of the Ancestry system since one can attach pedigree charts which I find useful for sharing. I have given up sending detailed information until I am sure the person is interested. I have found a few new clues in the databases of others, mistakes and whatever. I do try to send on corrections for misinformation I find in other's databases. Some say thank you. Many others do not respond. Recently I got a response from someone I had written to a year ago! Margaret Scheffler ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Online Death Indexes and Records website (USA) has some new links or updates for the following states: AK, AZ, AR, CA, CO, GA, IL (Cook County), IN, IA, KS, MA, MI, MO, NJ, NY, NC, OK, OR, PA, RI, SC, TN, TX, VA and WI. You can find a list of the latest additions and updates here: http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/2017/05/online-indexes-for-death-records.html Feel free to share this message with other genealogy newsgroups or Facebook genealogy groups. Happy searching. Regards, Joe -- Online Death Records Indexes, Obituaries and Cemeteries (USA) http://www.deathindexes.com/

There are a few who appear to have a calling to find from whence they came. I am one of those who for the last 45 years have been gathering information on my family, my husbands family and our soninlaws family and some others which contribute to a family file of some 118,000 individuals who are mostly related to one of these groups. I have experienced brick walls some of which I have broken through others remain standing tall. Throughout these years I have been helped by many and have helped many sharing much data with those who are serious about learning more about these families. When I receive a message saying "send me everything you have" the delete key is exercised. I have used DNA results as tools for further research which has helped me narrow down a field of research to a particular branch of a family or eliminated the need for further research in some areas. My golden rule remains "does this fact make sense? If not it is probably bogus". People tend to lose interest when they are not successful, and we all know there are many disappointments when a lead turns into nothing but a wild goose chase. It is my belief that an interest in history is as important as any other tool when researching. Learning more about the culture our ancestors lived in is also import. The history of a family is a puzzle made up of many pieces and fit together by using many research tools. I have also learned of many family secrets that may have been hidden for many years. Most of these remain secrets of my research. Karen Stir Sent from my iPad > On May 19, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Wayne Smith <chessman52@hotmail.com> wrote: > > i agree Lori that people loose interest (short attention span-that isnt beneficial to what they want =wont check) I for one am very happy to find cousin and we connect and share and both benefit and learn bout our ancestors. more than any dollar worth, to learn what never was told. May even find some source of traits we didnt know origin before. endeavor to perservere. > > wayne > > ________________________________ > From: ROOTS <roots-bounces+chessman52=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Lori <america4821@myactv.net> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:12 PM > To: roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA > > Check to see when they last signed on. We had a discussion about this on > another list. Often people lose interest and drop their membership. Or > they change their email address and don't know they have a message. Also, > they have to have it set up so that they can be contacted. I've had someone > apologize by saying she rarely check their her email account. There's that > leaf, but I guess they don't see that. Yes, it is disappointing. Someone > from a line I'm interested in copied something from my tree. I wrote to see > how they were connected, but never heard back. It is possible to 'talk' to > people if they see a message and respond before I sign off. But this is > rare. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ROOTS [mailto:roots-bounces+america4821=myactv.net@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Wayne Smith > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:29 PM > To: roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA > > Im glad we have the system of a place to build our trees. My gribe is having > hundreds of predicted cousins and haveing 1% acually responding to contact > of mutual > > genealogy. That concludes me that there is ghost -bots devised in system. It > just cant be that people arent interested in broading their heretiage > knowledge? > > wayne > > > ________________________________ > From: ROOTS <roots-bounces+chessman52=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of > d-mahurin@comcast.net <d-mahurin@comcast.net> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:26 AM > To: roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA > > Thank you - you are so right. > God bless and happy hunting. Mary Ann > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joan Young via ROOTS" <roots@rootsweb.com> > To: kadica@tds.net, roots@rootsweb.com > Cc: "Joan Young" <jyoung6180@aol.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:31:31 PM > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA > > Quite a few trees contain incorrect information but not everything in the > trees is bogus. Even if some dates or individuals or relationships are > incorrect quite often the locations are. Trees are not used to compile your > DNA matches or other DNA-related information other than Circles, hints, NADs > and Genetic Communities. Ancestry is very much aware that trees (and any use > contributed data) may contain errors but when you take the preponderance of > the information in the 4.5 million trees (if that is the number of trees) > you end up pretty accurate information. For example once DNA clusters and > migration patterns can be established based upon DNA alone tree information > can then be used to establish that the Community is comprised primarily of > Pennsylvania Germans (as just one example). > > > > > > Joan Young > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: TDS <kadica@tds.net> > To: roots <roots@rootsweb.com> > Cc: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> > Sent: Wed, May 17, 2017 5:59 pm > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA > > And how many of the 4.5 million trees on Ancestry are correct? Not many I > suspect. It is almost impossible to correct a line due to erroneous trees > being copied over and over even though chronologically they don't make > sense. Early on an generally accepted error in my tree was compounded over > and over again by many researchers. When proof of the error was found and > the correct information presented it was impossible to correct the original > error due to so many trees being copied over and over. Unfortunately many > are still using the incorrect line. > Karen > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 15, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Joan Young via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> > wrote: >> >> That is like cutting off your nose to spite your face as the old saying > goes. I've tested with both AncestryDNA and 23andme and uploaded my raw data > to FTDNA, MyHeritage, and DNAland. I'd estimate 99% of the matches I can > identify and verify are from AncestryDNA. This is due to the size of their > database (nearly 4.5 million) vs. 23andme about 2 million and FTDNA who > won't release this information but is through to be less than 1 million. It > is also due to more people having tree information on AncestryDNA than the > other sites. I agree that we need a chromosome browser on AncestryDNA to > really make the matches verifiable but uploading the raw data to GEDMatch > can accomplish this. >> >> >> >> >> >> Joan Young >> jyoung6180@aol.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Laura Loding <lloding@cox.net> >> To: roots <roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Mon, May 15, 2017 5:29 pm >> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA >> >> This DNA situation is where GedMatch steps in. You can upload your >> Ancestry results or any of the major outfits to GedMatch and continue >> to find additional matches. >> >> They have some great tools too that can compare segment by segment. >> >> Personally I don't care for Ancestry's policies so I refuse to use >> them for DNA. >> >> Laura Loding >> Hayes, VA >> >> >> >>> From: BARTON LEWIS <bartonlewis@optonline.net> >>> To: Web Roots <roots@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA >>> Message-ID: <464bb937.8d948.15c0d87daf8.Webtop.32@optonline.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; delsp=no >>> >>> Hi Bev, >>> >>> Was the person who told you about the "70% chance" one of Art's matches?? >>> What was the basis for their belief about the couple Art was >>> supposedly descended from?? Since the couple was born about 100 years >>> before Art, >> it's >>> unlikely they were closer than great-grandparents.? If the person who >>> gave >> you >>> that information was basing it on the amount of DNA shared, then the >> question >>> you should be asking is, how do you know it's that set of >> great-grandparents (or >>> great-great-grandparents) and not some other?? For them to be that >> specific, it >>> suggests that they know something about the man who was Art's father >>> and >> this >>> couple's grandson or great-grandson.? >>> >>> Personally I don't find Ancestry DNA's test that helpful.? The reason >>> is >> that they >>> don't give you the segment data - the positions on the chromosomes >>> where >> you >>> share DNA with your matches.? To definitively learn how you are >>> related to >> a >>> match, you need that information because >>> (1) it tells you exactly how much DNA you share with them and >>> therefore >> how >>> closely related they are to you (Ancestry only tells you the total >>> amount >> of DNA >>> but not where you're sharing or the size of the largest segment - a >>> lot of >> your >>> total is made up of tiny random segments that don't mean anything); >>> and >> (2) >>> exactly where you are sharing which is important because you can see >>> the others who are matching on that segment.? If you get several >>> people on a segment, you can perform triangulation - a combination of >>> sharing DNA and, >> if >>> you're lucky, a paper trail to a common ancestor.? That is what what >> breaks >>> down bricks walls and tells you how you and others are descended from >>> a common ancestor. >>> >>> I would suggest testing Art at Family Tree DNA or transferring his >> Ancestry >>> results there.? They have a database that is comprised of many >>> testers who don't test at Ancestry and they give you your segment data.? >>> You will be in a better position to solve the mystery by doing that >>> in my >> opinion. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Barton Lewis >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 01:51 PM, Beverly wrote: >>>> >>>> My husband, Art, who was born in 1938 was adopted. He didn't learn >>>> about it until his birth mother called when he was 25. We had one >>>> visit with her and she said his father was a little blonde guy from >>>> Oklahoma; she didn't remember his name. He was in the Navy. >>>> At this time we were adopting ourselves and didn't pursue a >>>> relationship with her. >>>> >>>> Last year Art took an Ancestry DNA test. Then recently we received a >>>> message that there was up to a 70% chance that he descended from a >>>> couple that were born in Kentucky in 1844 and died in Texas. These >>>> people must be from his paternal side because his maternal side are >>>> from Portugal and didn't go back that far in the USA. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure what to do with this information. Since I have a lot of >>>> time, I started a tree for them and working forward. I knew it was >>>> like looking for a needle in a haystack, but like the saying goes, >>>> no stones unturned. >>>> >>>> Any comments, suggestions, etc., would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> ~Blessings, Bev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ===== >>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ===== >> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ===== >> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest > mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the > digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

i agree Lori that people loose interest (short attention span-that isnt beneficial to what they want =wont check) I for one am very happy to find cousin and we connect and share and both benefit and learn bout our ancestors. more than any dollar worth, to learn what never was told. May even find some source of traits we didnt know origin before. endeavor to perservere. wayne ________________________________ From: ROOTS <roots-bounces+chessman52=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Lori <america4821@myactv.net> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:12 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Check to see when they last signed on. We had a discussion about this on another list. Often people lose interest and drop their membership. Or they change their email address and don't know they have a message. Also, they have to have it set up so that they can be contacted. I've had someone apologize by saying she rarely check their her email account. There's that leaf, but I guess they don't see that. Yes, it is disappointing. Someone from a line I'm interested in copied something from my tree. I wrote to see how they were connected, but never heard back. It is possible to 'talk' to people if they see a message and respond before I sign off. But this is rare. -----Original Message----- From: ROOTS [mailto:roots-bounces+america4821=myactv.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Smith Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:29 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Im glad we have the system of a place to build our trees. My gribe is having hundreds of predicted cousins and haveing 1% acually responding to contact of mutual genealogy. That concludes me that there is ghost -bots devised in system. It just cant be that people arent interested in broading their heretiage knowledge? wayne ________________________________ From: ROOTS <roots-bounces+chessman52=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of d-mahurin@comcast.net <d-mahurin@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:26 AM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Thank you - you are so right. God bless and happy hunting. Mary Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Young via ROOTS" <roots@rootsweb.com> To: kadica@tds.net, roots@rootsweb.com Cc: "Joan Young" <jyoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Quite a few trees contain incorrect information but not everything in the trees is bogus. Even if some dates or individuals or relationships are incorrect quite often the locations are. Trees are not used to compile your DNA matches or other DNA-related information other than Circles, hints, NADs and Genetic Communities. Ancestry is very much aware that trees (and any use contributed data) may contain errors but when you take the preponderance of the information in the 4.5 million trees (if that is the number of trees) you end up pretty accurate information. For example once DNA clusters and migration patterns can be established based upon DNA alone tree information can then be used to establish that the Community is comprised primarily of Pennsylvania Germans (as just one example). Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: TDS <kadica@tds.net> To: roots <roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Wed, May 17, 2017 5:59 pm Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA And how many of the 4.5 million trees on Ancestry are correct? Not many I suspect. It is almost impossible to correct a line due to erroneous trees being copied over and over even though chronologically they don't make sense. Early on an generally accepted error in my tree was compounded over and over again by many researchers. When proof of the error was found and the correct information presented it was impossible to correct the original error due to so many trees being copied over and over. Unfortunately many are still using the incorrect line. Karen Sent from my iPad > On May 15, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Joan Young via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > That is like cutting off your nose to spite your face as the old saying goes. I've tested with both AncestryDNA and 23andme and uploaded my raw data to FTDNA, MyHeritage, and DNAland. I'd estimate 99% of the matches I can identify and verify are from AncestryDNA. This is due to the size of their database (nearly 4.5 million) vs. 23andme about 2 million and FTDNA who won't release this information but is through to be less than 1 million. It is also due to more people having tree information on AncestryDNA than the other sites. I agree that we need a chromosome browser on AncestryDNA to really make the matches verifiable but uploading the raw data to GEDMatch can accomplish this. > > > > > > Joan Young > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Loding <lloding@cox.net> > To: roots <roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, May 15, 2017 5:29 pm > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA > > This DNA situation is where GedMatch steps in. You can upload your > Ancestry results or any of the major outfits to GedMatch and continue > to find additional matches. > > They have some great tools too that can compare segment by segment. > > Personally I don't care for Ancestry's policies so I refuse to use > them for DNA. > > Laura Loding > Hayes, VA > > > >> From: BARTON LEWIS <bartonlewis@optonline.net> >> To: Web Roots <roots@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA >> Message-ID: <464bb937.8d948.15c0d87daf8.Webtop.32@optonline.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; delsp=no >> >> Hi Bev, >> >> Was the person who told you about the "70% chance" one of Art's matches?? >> What was the basis for their belief about the couple Art was >> supposedly descended from?? Since the couple was born about 100 years >> before Art, > it's >> unlikely they were closer than great-grandparents.? If the person who >> gave > you >> that information was basing it on the amount of DNA shared, then the > question >> you should be asking is, how do you know it's that set of > great-grandparents (or >> great-great-grandparents) and not some other?? For them to be that > specific, it >> suggests that they know something about the man who was Art's father >> and > this >> couple's grandson or great-grandson.? >> >> Personally I don't find Ancestry DNA's test that helpful.? The reason >> is > that they >> don't give you the segment data - the positions on the chromosomes >> where > you >> share DNA with your matches.? To definitively learn how you are >> related to > a >> match, you need that information because >> (1) it tells you exactly how much DNA you share with them and >> therefore > how >> closely related they are to you (Ancestry only tells you the total >> amount > of DNA >> but not where you're sharing or the size of the largest segment - a >> lot of > your >> total is made up of tiny random segments that don't mean anything); >> and > (2) >> exactly where you are sharing which is important because you can see >> the others who are matching on that segment.? If you get several >> people on a segment, you can perform triangulation - a combination of >> sharing DNA and, > if >> you're lucky, a paper trail to a common ancestor.? That is what what > breaks >> down bricks walls and tells you how you and others are descended from >> a common ancestor. >> >> I would suggest testing Art at Family Tree DNA or transferring his > Ancestry >> results there.? They have a database that is comprised of many >> testers who don't test at Ancestry and they give you your segment data.? >> You will be in a better position to solve the mystery by doing that >> in my > opinion. >> >> Regards, >> >> Barton Lewis >> >> >>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 01:51 PM, Beverly wrote: >>> >>> My husband, Art, who was born in 1938 was adopted. He didn't learn >>> about it until his birth mother called when he was 25. We had one >>> visit with her and she said his father was a little blonde guy from >>> Oklahoma; she didn't remember his name. He was in the Navy. >>> At this time we were adopting ourselves and didn't pursue a >>> relationship with her. >>> >>> Last year Art took an Ancestry DNA test. Then recently we received a >>> message that there was up to a 70% chance that he descended from a >>> couple that were born in Kentucky in 1844 and died in Texas. These >>> people must be from his paternal side because his maternal side are >>> from Portugal and didn't go back that far in the USA. >>> >>> I'm not sure what to do with this information. Since I have a lot of >>> time, I started a tree for them and working forward. I knew it was >>> like looking for a needle in a haystack, but like the saying goes, >>> no stones unturned. >>> >>> Any comments, suggestions, etc., would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> ~Blessings, Bev >>> >>> >>> >>> ===== >>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Check to see when they last signed on. We had a discussion about this on another list. Often people lose interest and drop their membership. Or they change their email address and don't know they have a message. Also, they have to have it set up so that they can be contacted. I've had someone apologize by saying she rarely check their her email account. There's that leaf, but I guess they don't see that. Yes, it is disappointing. Someone from a line I'm interested in copied something from my tree. I wrote to see how they were connected, but never heard back. It is possible to 'talk' to people if they see a message and respond before I sign off. But this is rare. -----Original Message----- From: ROOTS [mailto:roots-bounces+america4821=myactv.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Smith Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:29 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Im glad we have the system of a place to build our trees. My gribe is having hundreds of predicted cousins and haveing 1% acually responding to contact of mutual genealogy. That concludes me that there is ghost -bots devised in system. It just cant be that people arent interested in broading their heretiage knowledge? wayne ________________________________ From: ROOTS <roots-bounces+chessman52=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of d-mahurin@comcast.net <d-mahurin@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:26 AM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Thank you - you are so right. God bless and happy hunting. Mary Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Young via ROOTS" <roots@rootsweb.com> To: kadica@tds.net, roots@rootsweb.com Cc: "Joan Young" <jyoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Quite a few trees contain incorrect information but not everything in the trees is bogus. Even if some dates or individuals or relationships are incorrect quite often the locations are. Trees are not used to compile your DNA matches or other DNA-related information other than Circles, hints, NADs and Genetic Communities. Ancestry is very much aware that trees (and any use contributed data) may contain errors but when you take the preponderance of the information in the 4.5 million trees (if that is the number of trees) you end up pretty accurate information. For example once DNA clusters and migration patterns can be established based upon DNA alone tree information can then be used to establish that the Community is comprised primarily of Pennsylvania Germans (as just one example). Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: TDS <kadica@tds.net> To: roots <roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Wed, May 17, 2017 5:59 pm Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA And how many of the 4.5 million trees on Ancestry are correct? Not many I suspect. It is almost impossible to correct a line due to erroneous trees being copied over and over even though chronologically they don't make sense. Early on an generally accepted error in my tree was compounded over and over again by many researchers. When proof of the error was found and the correct information presented it was impossible to correct the original error due to so many trees being copied over and over. Unfortunately many are still using the incorrect line. Karen Sent from my iPad > On May 15, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Joan Young via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > That is like cutting off your nose to spite your face as the old saying goes. I've tested with both AncestryDNA and 23andme and uploaded my raw data to FTDNA, MyHeritage, and DNAland. I'd estimate 99% of the matches I can identify and verify are from AncestryDNA. This is due to the size of their database (nearly 4.5 million) vs. 23andme about 2 million and FTDNA who won't release this information but is through to be less than 1 million. It is also due to more people having tree information on AncestryDNA than the other sites. I agree that we need a chromosome browser on AncestryDNA to really make the matches verifiable but uploading the raw data to GEDMatch can accomplish this. > > > > > > Joan Young > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Loding <lloding@cox.net> > To: roots <roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, May 15, 2017 5:29 pm > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA > > This DNA situation is where GedMatch steps in. You can upload your > Ancestry results or any of the major outfits to GedMatch and continue > to find additional matches. > > They have some great tools too that can compare segment by segment. > > Personally I don't care for Ancestry's policies so I refuse to use > them for DNA. > > Laura Loding > Hayes, VA > > > >> From: BARTON LEWIS <bartonlewis@optonline.net> >> To: Web Roots <roots@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA >> Message-ID: <464bb937.8d948.15c0d87daf8.Webtop.32@optonline.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; delsp=no >> >> Hi Bev, >> >> Was the person who told you about the "70% chance" one of Art's matches?? >> What was the basis for their belief about the couple Art was >> supposedly descended from?? Since the couple was born about 100 years >> before Art, > it's >> unlikely they were closer than great-grandparents.? If the person who >> gave > you >> that information was basing it on the amount of DNA shared, then the > question >> you should be asking is, how do you know it's that set of > great-grandparents (or >> great-great-grandparents) and not some other?? For them to be that > specific, it >> suggests that they know something about the man who was Art's father >> and > this >> couple's grandson or great-grandson.? >> >> Personally I don't find Ancestry DNA's test that helpful.? The reason >> is > that they >> don't give you the segment data - the positions on the chromosomes >> where > you >> share DNA with your matches.? To definitively learn how you are >> related to > a >> match, you need that information because >> (1) it tells you exactly how much DNA you share with them and >> therefore > how >> closely related they are to you (Ancestry only tells you the total >> amount > of DNA >> but not where you're sharing or the size of the largest segment - a >> lot of > your >> total is made up of tiny random segments that don't mean anything); >> and > (2) >> exactly where you are sharing which is important because you can see >> the others who are matching on that segment.? If you get several >> people on a segment, you can perform triangulation - a combination of >> sharing DNA and, > if >> you're lucky, a paper trail to a common ancestor.? That is what what > breaks >> down bricks walls and tells you how you and others are descended from >> a common ancestor. >> >> I would suggest testing Art at Family Tree DNA or transferring his > Ancestry >> results there.? They have a database that is comprised of many >> testers who don't test at Ancestry and they give you your segment data.? >> You will be in a better position to solve the mystery by doing that >> in my > opinion. >> >> Regards, >> >> Barton Lewis >> >> >>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 01:51 PM, Beverly wrote: >>> >>> My husband, Art, who was born in 1938 was adopted. He didn't learn >>> about it until his birth mother called when he was 25. We had one >>> visit with her and she said his father was a little blonde guy from >>> Oklahoma; she didn't remember his name. He was in the Navy. >>> At this time we were adopting ourselves and didn't pursue a >>> relationship with her. >>> >>> Last year Art took an Ancestry DNA test. Then recently we received a >>> message that there was up to a 70% chance that he descended from a >>> couple that were born in Kentucky in 1844 and died in Texas. These >>> people must be from his paternal side because his maternal side are >>> from Portugal and didn't go back that far in the USA. >>> >>> I'm not sure what to do with this information. Since I have a lot of >>> time, I started a tree for them and working forward. I knew it was >>> like looking for a needle in a haystack, but like the saying goes, >>> no stones unturned. >>> >>> Any comments, suggestions, etc., would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> ~Blessings, Bev >>> >>> >>> >>> ===== >>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have tested with both Ancestry DNA and FTDNA. I have good reasons for both. My ethnicity conclusions were very close on the two results. But Ancestry has provided the majority of my matches. I have actually proved several lines through the use of Ancestry. I had a couple lines where I likely had two or three women cousins of about the same names who might be my ancestor. When I got possible matches up the tree I was able to conclude I had chosen the correct woman to be my direct ancestor. Or it could have gone the other way, and I would be able to rule one or more out. It does not hurt to test with all three of the major choices, but if one has a decent paper trail to submit with the DNA, one will likely get many more obvious matches with Ancestry. I solved a French Canadian line that I had looked for for some 20 years, with the DNA results and the fluke of finding a 3rd marriage record on Ancestry. With FTDNA I have received inquiries from people around the world, but without paper trails one is not likely to find matches at the 4th or 5th cousin level. Margaret Scheffler

Kathleen, I just found Henry's death record from the army. He was killed in France 26 Jul 1944. His full name was Joseph Henry Ludwig. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen barrett Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 2:23 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Family in Philadelphia Looking for information on half cousins living in Philadelphia, Henry Ludwig born 1926 George Ludwig born 1923 , George married Doreen L Brewer 1940's ? any off spring. Lived in Emerald Street with parents. Henry maybe still alive, not known if married. Kathleen. ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

back in those days life was hard. and sometimes families couldn't care for a large family so children were put in homes for adoption. sometimes children that were born out of wedlock were hidden away from opinionated families this was even the case even in the 1960. sometimes women had affairs when their husband was gone for extended times and he wouldn't except the child or she gave baby up for adoption to keep her marriage. I have a daughter in law that was adopted and when questioned about why she isn't interested in finding out her history , brothers or sisters etc she stated she wasn't interested because she didn't want her or she wouldn't have given her away. but that was as early as 1965 and i tried to tell her that in that time or earlier many woman or girls didn't have a choice about what was going to happen to their babies. They were a shame to their families so were hidden in unwed homes or taken far away to have their babies and their babies were taken from them and they had no say in it. I was one of the lucky ones whoes family folded their arms around me and supported me to keep my baby. it was really hard for woman back before that time . but i have found many adopted adults can be bitter about the adoption and won't listen or ask questions. i did my genealogy not just for the names but for the stories and the history. it answered so many questions of who i am, where i belonged, history of medical questions and found so much of what is happening to me and my sons medical issues can be traced through many generations. if i can help let me know From: "Beverly" <bevart@frontiernet.net> To: roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:48:51 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA Hi Sharon, My husband was born in California. We met his birth mother once and she called a few times, but hubby Art never waned to talk to her. She did always call when he was at work, though. The last time, we were not home, but my sister was babysitting. She never phoned after that. There were questions I wish I would have asked, but through her paper trail, I was able to find a lot of the genealogy. The info his birth mother gave us about the father, may or may not be true. After looking through some of the websites that were given me, I found that we can get the adoption records from our state capitol in Sacramento. My only concern is it may say father is unknown. Birth mother was married at this time; her husband was overseas and she had to other children. I found his half-brother was deceased. I contacted half-brother, Ernest's wife. She has since died, but I keep In contact with their daughter, Jeannette. Hugs, Bev -----Original Message----- From: SHARON GALLUP Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:32 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA can your husband contact the Oklahoma social service that had handled the adoption and get a copy of his adoption papers. at least one parent , more then likely the mother's name will be on it. or their vital statistic office . then you can check the census for her family in Oklahoma state my family was from the Connecticut state and i got alot of information through their vital statistic. Sharon Gallup From: "Beverly" <bevart@frontiernet.net> To: roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:51:06 AM Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA My husband, Art, who was born in 1938 was adopted. He didn't learn about it until his birth mother called when he was 25. We had one visit with her and she said his father was a little blonde guy from Oklahoma; she didn't remember his name. He was in the Navy. At this time we were adopting ourselves and didn't pursue a relationship with her. Last year Art took an Ancestry DNA test. Then recently we received a message that there was up to a 70% chance that he descended from a couple that were born in Kentucky in 1844 and died in Texas. These people must be from his paternal side because his maternal side are from Portugal and didn't go back that far in the USA. I'm not sure what to do with this information. Since I have a lot of time, I started a tree for them and working forward. I knew it was like looking for a needle in a haystack, but like the saying goes, no stones unturned. Any comments, suggestions, etc., would be greatly appreciated. ~Blessings, Bev ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sharon, My husband was born in California. We met his birth mother once and she called a few times, but hubby Art never waned to talk to her. She did always call when he was at work, though. The last time, we were not home, but my sister was babysitting. She never phoned after that. There were questions I wish I would have asked, but through her paper trail, I was able to find a lot of the genealogy. The info his birth mother gave us about the father, may or may not be true. After looking through some of the websites that were given me, I found that we can get the adoption records from our state capitol in Sacramento. My only concern is it may say father is unknown. Birth mother was married at this time; her husband was overseas and she had to other children. I found his half-brother was deceased. I contacted half-brother, Ernest's wife. She has since died, but I keep In contact with their daughter, Jeannette. Hugs, Bev -----Original Message----- From: SHARON GALLUP Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:32 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA can your husband contact the Oklahoma social service that had handled the adoption and get a copy of his adoption papers. at least one parent , more then likely the mother's name will be on it. or their vital statistic office . then you can check the census for her family in Oklahoma state my family was from the Connecticut state and i got alot of information through their vital statistic. Sharon Gallup From: "Beverly" <bevart@frontiernet.net> To: roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:51:06 AM Subject: [ROOTS-L] Ancestry DNA My husband, Art, who was born in 1938 was adopted. He didn't learn about it until his birth mother called when he was 25. We had one visit with her and she said his father was a little blonde guy from Oklahoma; she didn't remember his name. He was in the Navy. At this time we were adopting ourselves and didn't pursue a relationship with her. Last year Art took an Ancestry DNA test. Then recently we received a message that there was up to a 70% chance that he descended from a couple that were born in Kentucky in 1844 and died in Texas. These people must be from his paternal side because his maternal side are from Portugal and didn't go back that far in the USA. I'm not sure what to do with this information. Since I have a lot of time, I started a tree for them and working forward. I knew it was like looking for a needle in a haystack, but like the saying goes, no stones unturned. Any comments, suggestions, etc., would be greatly appreciated. ~Blessings, Bev ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message