Thank you. This is excellent feedback. I had no idea that this was how I was coming across. Needless to say this is quite a shock. I do apologize and ask for you to give me a chance to explain if I can, in a way that is hopefully not boring and overly technical but which tries to show what is exciting about this that I am doing. I was hoping that everyone would be as excited about the accomplishments of the site as I am but I think I know why now that is not the case. I am getting a feel for that. The idea that I want to do something with the GEDCOM data and the immediate presentation of a request for funds is the completely wrong approach. I'm not doing anything with the GEDCOM's per se, other than facilitating the sharing of information. The problem is that the technology that makes this different, is not completely apparent when the average person visits the site. Indeed many sites let one import GEDCOM. In a way this might be somewhat like "One Great Family" website in offering to connect people and to create one large database from which connections can be made and a global database, as it were would exist. However, OneGreatFamily.com uses a traditional database for storing information, just like many other similar sites. The application I am developing with the help of others is using a new, next generation technology, as it were, a Web 3.0 technology. The technology helps computers to be more helpful to us by helping computers to "understand" the meaning of the information in the databases and on web pages - where previously a web page was created only for display to people to see but with no embedded information that allowed a computer to understand the meaning of anything that is on the page. This next generation software is the Semantic Web, the web of meaning, or of data. It is part of the inventor of the web, Tim Berners-Lee's initial plan for the web. My inspiration was to create a Semantic Web application and Genealogy seemed like the perfect application for the Semantic Web technologies. The Semantic Web is a more intelligent web as it were. The coding for the semantic web applications include information that helps computers to understand what is on the page or what the page is all about. In addition, Semantic Web applications use a standardized format for storing information. Also, to help computers understand the meaning of information or terms, this is done by using standardized vocabularies that describe how one word or term is related to another word. So, for a Genealogy website we have two vocabularies that are appropriately used, one for Biographic information which describes events in a person's life or Families. The other vocabulary is for Relationships between people. Therefore, websites or web applications that use these vocabularies can be said to "speak the same language" as it were. Prior technologies were isolated "silos" of data/information. The nature or structure of how the information was stored is not open and revealed. With the Semantic web data is stored in one standard fashion that relates a subject to an object through a predicate and it is called a "triple" - and such a database is called a "triple store." Standardized vocabularies, like I mentioned, convey meaning for computers by describing how the terms relate to one another. Sometimes this is called "Open" Linked Data because using these standardized vocabularies means we are building a global database, a database that spans the entire internet and is not restricted to one site. Furthermore, every person living or whoever lived can be represented uniquely using URI's which are like web addresses but they don't have to point to an actual web page. As an example, you could represent our former President Lincoln with this link: http://my-family-lineage.com/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln(1800-1883) - I'm not sure exactly the years when he lived but using links like this full path one can uniquely identify billions and billions of people and hundreds of billions of other "things" or "concepts." Taking this example one step further, one could write an application that says "go out onto the entire web and find everything about the ancestors, and descendents and their relatives of this particular Abraham Lincoln wherever it might exist(there could be more than one Abraham Lincoln that has lived)." I can only hope that some folks have read this far and at some point will find this as exciting as I find it. There are some folks that do find this Semantic web stuff very interesting but the challenge is to make it attractive - is that the word? - to the larger audience of the web. Thanks, Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Gale Gorman [mailto:gale_gorman@me.com] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:22 PM To: Bruce Whealton Cc: ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Assistance and Invitation for new Genealogy Application I read this and browsed the website and I still cannot determine what you are offering. I have several applications and all of them import/export gedcom files. It appears you're asking us to upload our gedcom and then contribute money for you to do something with it. Is that about it? Gale Gorman Houston On Mar 25, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Bruce Whealton wrote: Hello all, I have been working with some programmers and our team is developing a genealogy application that has some unique features and benefits. Admittedly some of these features may not be immediately apparent, that is in terms of what makes the application different than others (In technical terms the application uses Semantic Web technologies but one doesn't need to know what that means to benefit from the new features). The site is at: http://my-family-lineage.com/wiki/Main_Page One of the first features we added as the ability to upload and import your GEDCOM file so that one doesn't have to manually enter all the information. This feature is constantly being refined with our understanding of the GEDCOM 5.5 standard and by analyzing which terms are most often used, such as life events. By looking at and importing initial GEDCOM files, we could see some of the most important tags/terms to import into the website application. These GEDCOM terms were assigned to standardized vocabularies used on the web for Genealogy information. Having more people importing their GEDCOM files will be of great help in shaping the growth and refinement of the application. I'm not sure what concerns someone might have about sharing their GEDCOM information for others that might similarly be interested in the same data/information. It is easy enough to remove any information that one did not or does not want to remain published in the application. After a very brief registration (by clicking on the link in the upper right) one can easily click on the link on the main menu that is named "Upload and Import GEDCOM. It does take some time to create all the pages and to import the full GEDCOM into the application. Having more GEDCOM files imported into the site, will help us with the refinement and improvement of the site by giving us more information with which to work. This is a new site but there are 76,000+ pages so far. Again, the site is http://my-family-lineage.com/wiki/Main_Page Thanks, Bruce

Pat, I didn't think about the link being a phishing scheme. Gale Gorman Houston On Mar 25, 2012, at 5:27 PM, Kith-n-Kin wrote: Bruce Do you ever look at the feedback you get? Or is this just a "come-on." In February, after a similar "invitation" was issued on Gen-Newbie, some of the folks had serious problems -- computers that quit functioning, "history sniffing" (stealing your browser history), clicksor, etc. After some of the folks responded with concerns to you, the only response I saw was another initial email, as though you had never seen the responses. I'm sure you are not doing this intentionally, but this really smacks of a scam, and if you don't agree with that, perhaps you should respond to Gen-Newbie and this list as well. Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Whealton Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:59 PM To: ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Assistance and Invitation for new Genealogy Application Hello all, I have been working with some programmers and our team is developing a genealogy application that has some unique features and benefits. Admittedly some of these features may not be immediately apparent, that is in terms of what makes the application different than others (In technical terms the application uses Semantic Web technologies but one doesn't need to know what that means to benefit from the new features).

Hello all, I have been working with some programmers and our team is developing a genealogy application that has some unique features and benefits. Admittedly some of these features may not be immediately apparent, that is in terms of what makes the application different than others (In technical terms the application uses Semantic Web technologies but one doesn't need to know what that means to benefit from the new features). The site is at: http://my-family-lineage.com/wiki/Main_Page One of the first features we added as the ability to upload and import your GEDCOM file so that one doesn't have to manually enter all the information. This feature is constantly being refined with our understanding of the GEDCOM 5.5 standard and by analyzing which terms are most often used, such as life events. By looking at and importing initial GEDCOM files, we could see some of the most important tags/terms to import into the website application. These GEDCOM terms were assigned to standardized vocabularies used on the web for Genealogy information. Having more people importing their GEDCOM files will be of great help in shaping the growth and refinement of the application. I'm not sure what concerns someone might have about sharing their GEDCOM information for others that might similarly be interested in the same data/information. It is easy enough to remove any information that one did not or does not want to remain published in the application. After a very brief registration (by clicking on the link in the upper right) one can easily click on the link on the main menu that is named "Upload and Import GEDCOM. It does take some time to create all the pages and to import the full GEDCOM into the application. Having more GEDCOM files imported into the site, will help us with the refinement and improvement of the site by giving us more information with which to work. This is a new site but there are 76,000+ pages so far. Again, the site is http://my-family-lineage.com/wiki/Main_Page Thanks, Bruce

I read this and browsed the website and I still cannot determine what you are offering. I have several applications and all of them import/export gedcom files. It appears you're asking us to upload our gedcom and then contribute money for you to do something with it. Is that about it? Gale Gorman Houston On Mar 25, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Bruce Whealton wrote: Hello all, I have been working with some programmers and our team is developing a genealogy application that has some unique features and benefits. Admittedly some of these features may not be immediately apparent, that is in terms of what makes the application different than others (In technical terms the application uses Semantic Web technologies but one doesn't need to know what that means to benefit from the new features). The site is at: http://my-family-lineage.com/wiki/Main_Page One of the first features we added as the ability to upload and import your GEDCOM file so that one doesn't have to manually enter all the information. This feature is constantly being refined with our understanding of the GEDCOM 5.5 standard and by analyzing which terms are most often used, such as life events. By looking at and importing initial GEDCOM files, we could see some of the most important tags/terms to import into the website application. These GEDCOM terms were assigned to standardized vocabularies used on the web for Genealogy information. Having more people importing their GEDCOM files will be of great help in shaping the growth and refinement of the application. I'm not sure what concerns someone might have about sharing their GEDCOM information for others that might similarly be interested in the same data/information. It is easy enough to remove any information that one did not or does not want to remain published in the application. After a very brief registration (by clicking on the link in the upper right) one can easily click on the link on the main menu that is named "Upload and Import GEDCOM. It does take some time to create all the pages and to import the full GEDCOM into the application. Having more GEDCOM files imported into the site, will help us with the refinement and improvement of the site by giving us more information with which to work. This is a new site but there are 76,000+ pages so far. Again, the site is http://my-family-lineage.com/wiki/Main_Page Thanks, Bruce

Bruce Do you ever look at the feedback you get? Or is this just a "come-on." In February, after a similar "invitation" was issued on Gen-Newbie, some of the folks had serious problems -- computers that quit functioning, "history sniffing" (stealing your browser history), clicksor, etc. After some of the folks responded with concerns to you, the only response I saw was another initial email, as though you had never seen the responses. I'm sure you are not doing this intentionally, but this really smacks of a scam, and if you don't agree with that, perhaps you should respond to Gen-Newbie and this list as well. Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Whealton Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:59 PM To: ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Assistance and Invitation for new Genealogy Application Hello all, I have been working with some programmers and our team is developing a genealogy application that has some unique features and benefits. Admittedly some of these features may not be immediately apparent, that is in terms of what makes the application different than others (In technical terms the application uses Semantic Web technologies but one doesn't need to know what that means to benefit from the new features).

Gretchen: Thank you for alerting us to this index. I found several of my Blewfields. Suzanne Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:43 AM Subject: [ROOTS-L] ILLINOIS DEATH RECORDS > Not sure how long this particular item has been on line but Ancestry.com > has a fairly new listing on Illinois deaths. > It's entitled "Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths Index 1916 - 1947. > Gretchen

Mike, You may want to try a more specialized list, such as the one for Saxony: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/DEU/SAXONY.html You're more likely to encounter other Saxony researchers there. Drew Smith On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Michael Monahan <ma_monahan@yahoo.com> wrote: > My great grandfather was Volkmar Koerner.  He was from the Chemnitz, Germany area.  He was born circa 1860 and emigrated to New York City in the late 1880s.  His wife was Elise Wolff.  My grandmother Louise Koerner was born in NYC in 1901.  Volkmar died in 1918.  Can anyone help me trace my German ancestry?

My great grandfather was Volkmar Koerner. He was from the Chemnitz, Germany area. He was born circa 1860 and emigrated to New York City in the late 1880s. His wife was Elise Wolff. My grandmother Louise Koerner was born in NYC in 1901. Volkmar died in 1918. Can anyone help me trace my German ancestry? Many thanks, Mike Monahan Sent from my iPad

Hi all An interesting story highlighted on Eastmans newsletter http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/23/confederate-flag-back-at-georgia-fort-after-148-years/ It begs the question of how many artifacts lie buried in boxes in garages or on top of the wardrobe Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Angela Just checked "Massachusetts Town Vital Collections" in Ancestry. Lots of George Millers, none married a Bridget. Of course, they may have had more than one name. Yesterday I was looking in this source and found Mary E., Elizabeth, and Mary -- all the same person. Do you have any idea of the dates? I checked the 1850 and 1860 census for George and Bridget, to no avail, so have no idea when they were married. Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Angela Higdon Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 6:54 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] MA Marriage records Does anyone have any great MA (Boston area, mainly) resources? I am trying to find the maiden name through marriage records of my 3x grandfather, George MILLER, born ca 1832 in Co. Kerry, Ireland. His wife is Bridget M ????? Born ca 1835 in Co. Fermanaugh, Ireland. I've tried the MA archives index search, but there are way too many Bridgets listed in the same volume and the same page as the few George MILLERs to be of any use to me. I have written to them for a search, but who knows how long that takes. I can't afford ancestry, so no luck there. Thanks! ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have any great MA (Boston area, mainly) resources? I am trying to find the maiden name through marriage records of my 3x grandfather, George MILLER, born ca 1832 in Co. Kerry, Ireland. His wife is Bridget M ????? Born ca 1835 in Co. Fermanaugh, Ireland. I've tried the MA archives index search, but there are way too many Bridgets listed in the same volume and the same page as the few George MILLERs to be of any use to me. I have written to them for a search, but who knows how long that takes. I can't afford ancestry, so no luck there. Thanks!

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Am interested in acquiring the obituary of Leo A. CARNEY who was born 15 June 1925 in New York, USA and died 07 April 1996 in Honesdale, Wayne Co., PA.  I checked findagrave and found zip.  Thank you for your efforts!  Please contact me offline.  I am willing to pay for expenses incurred.              Laura Dague             fuchsia3@yahoo.com Sincerely, Laura:)

      I checked findagrave and did not find this person.  I am seeking the obituary of William David Winemiller, Jr. who died 22 Jan 1998 in Ozark, Dale Co., Alabama.  He was born on 28 Mar 1919 in Maryland.  I would appreciate if anyone would contact me offline about this news item.  I will pay expenses incurred.  Thank you.                     Laura Dague                     fuchsia3@yahoo.com Sincerely, Laura:)

       I am requesting the obituary of William A. WEISENSALE who died in Orlando, Florida 11 Oct 1954.  He was born in April 1874 in Maryland.  Please contact me offline.  I am willing to cover expenses to retrieve this news item.  Thank you. Laura Dague fuchsia3@yahoo.com Sincerely, Laura:)

Thank you to Nancy, Pat, Ron and Gale for your efforts, however, it looks more and more like my Ancestor, John Boerner prefers to remain a mystery. The John Boerner found by Nancy was the son of "My" Boerner. He ALSO had a son John. "My" John had a brother Leonhard who, in turn, had a son John born 1854. "My" John and his brother Leonhard were born in Oberrodenbach, Hesse Kassel, Germany (can find Leonhards entrance into USA, but not John's). I have the family as far back as the 1500's and I consider myself very fortunate in having a relative still living in that village. I currently live less than a mile from what was once "My" John's farm. It's so frustrating not to have these two last bits of information. Thanks again, and if you think of anything else that I can do, please let me know. Susi P.S. William was Leonhard's son and he was visiting John's family in the 1870 Census.

Thanks to the person who posted the new PA death index,I finally found my grandmother's and uncle's death dates,in 1918 and 1919.I have sent for the death certificates.Some of the years were listed by first name,which made it more difficult,but totally worth while!Thank-you! Paula

I was browsing thru Don's site - DonsList.net - to see what was new. And while there was a lot there like tons of San Francisco directories I also saw a link to the states Department of Health http://www.health.state.pa.us/indices/indices - birth/1906 Birth There is also a list of deaths from 1906 to 1961 Considering the lack of available PA records these index are so helpful. Eliz

But to be effective for credit purposes the SS# is imperative. As you say <G> for us who cares <G> give us good dates and we are happy <G> Eliz On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:12 PM, DeAnn Leonard <deannleonard@centurylink.net> wrote: > There is no reason why they need to publish the Social Securty Number,  they > could just publish the death date. We have the birthday to make use we have > the right person. Would solve  all the hassle . > > > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone Could someone please tell me how I can find a person emigrating from Spain to the USA, the information I have is from the 1900 Census of Henry FULLER living in Ohio with his wife. It states that his father was born in Spain and that his mother was born in Germany. Henry was born around 1819 so the time period I would say would be late 1700's to early 1800's for his father (and/or family) coming over from Spain. On one document I have for Henry it states that he was "Colored" and one of his childrens color was described as "Doubtful" If someone can point me in the right direction that would be wonderful. Kind regards Dianna in Sydney