William was my 2nd great grandfather, born in Tipperary, Ireland 29 SEP 1803 and the next solid information is marriage in Sumter, Alabama 22 MAY 1832. He died in Union, Arkansas 13 JAN 1851. I also found a William Gorman in the 1840 census who could easily be my man. He was in Sumter, Alabama and the right age range. I found a baptismal record in 1805 but have no idea if this is the right William Gorman. This week I searched Filby's passenger lists at Clayton Library in Houston and the only William Gorman I found that would fit between 1803 and 1832 was in July of 1816. That would have him traveling to America at the age of 12. I looked for other Gormans on the same boat but turned up nothing. I know it's a possibility he could have been indentured to pay his passage but I have nothing to support that. Last week I also wrote to Irish public records to see if there was a birth certificate but it's too early to expect a result. In late July I have a trip to Missouri planned and while I'm a long way from home I plan to go to Sumter, Alabama to see what I can dig up. I need all the suggestions I can get for where to look for more info. Thank you, Gale Gorman Houston

We have a photograph from the 1890's to the 1900's which shows my great-grandfather's sister ("Aunt Lou" -- also known as Lulu) in costume, on top of a horse, with other women in costumes on horses. There is an arrow pointing to her which says "Aunt Lou Chicago", but what is even more interesting are three canopy tents in the background, and a wagon that shows "BARNU...." -- Clearly the start of the words "Barnum and Bailey." As far as I know, "Aunt Lou" was born as Lydia Lehman in Michigan in 1873; According to the 1900 federal census she was married to George Baker and living in Manhattan. It's interesting to note that in the 1900 census, her husband is an acrobat who has not been employed in 6 months. They are shown boarding with another couple, Robert and May Hodge -- and Robert is shown as a comedian who has not been employed for 6 months. I'm guessing that perhaps "Aunt Lou" met and married George Baker in the circus? And I'm also guessing that the Hodge's may have also been in the circus with them? I cannot find a marriage record for Aunt Lou; nor can I find a death record for her. Supposedly she was born in Michigan; but had ties to Chicago, and then lived in Manhattan. She had no children that I know of. This leaves me with many questions -- looking for marriage info and death info. Also wondering if there are any records of folks being employed by Barnum and Bailey in those early years... I find this to be a fascinating story in the works, and would welcome any help or suggestions. Thanks, everyone. Barbara in Whitesboro, NY bgranato53@gmail.com

Nivard mentions some of the reasons for not knowing birth dates. I have to give an actual example. I live in the age of the government insisting on knowing when you are born, but at one point I added 3 years to my age totally by mistake, I finally caught on but here I am when you have a license and other "documents" that give age and you are reminded every year, and still I got it wrong. Think of working hard to keep body and soul together and never needing to give your birthdate <G> no wonder he had trouble figuring it <G> ELiz On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:18 AM, dianna charles <diamonddi57@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi >   Could someone please tell me where I could make enquiries into someone > being orphaned/adopted in the 1820's ish in PA. > >      I beginning to feel that Henry Fuller may have been an orphan as he > doesn't seem to know his birth date. Henry states on an Affidavit 4th april > 1879  "My age is according to records and my Understanding and information > just about 63 years last January" I was born in Pennsylvania now live in > Leechburgh.  That makes his birth date 1816. > >     His birth date varies from 1816-1824, what could these "Records" be he > refers to.  If he had a birth certificate or baptism certificate he would > know exactly when he was born. > >    I have also contacted the Allegheny court house for his marriage details > as this may have something on it.  Any help much appreciated.   Kind regards > Dianna > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dianna I would be highly surprised if there were adoption records that far back, most official systems started only in the 20th century There can be many reasons a birth/baptism record does not exist and why someone may not know their precise date or place of birth, his birth mother died while he was young for example The records he mentions could be anything from family papers, to some sort of official paperwork Do keep in mind he may have been wrong about his age at that time or may have been wanting to mislead whoever he was giving the record to Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi > Could someone please tell me where I could make enquiries into someone > being orphaned/adopted in the 1820's ish in PA. > > I beginning to feel that Henry Fuller may have been an orphan as he > doesn't seem to know his birth date. Henry states on an Affidavit 4th april > 1879 "My age is according to records and my Understanding and information > just about 63 years last January" I was born in Pennsylvania now live in > Leechburgh. That makes his birth date 1816. > > His birth date varies from 1816-1824, what could these "Records" be he > refers to. If he had a birth certificate or baptism certificate he would > know exactly when he was born. > > I have also contacted the Allegheny court house for his marriage details > as this may have something on it. Any help much appreciated. Kind regards > Dianna

Hi Everyone I'm doing research into the above Christian ROSE who was married to Elizabeth ?. On the 1850 Census the family are living in Allegheny, Armstrong, PA. Household is Christian Rose 45 b PA Elizabeth Rose 45 Solomon 18 David 16 Levia 13 Henry 12 Eliza J 8 It's stated on one of the Census's (1880 I think) that Christian's father comes from "Saxony". Another daughter is Mary Ann Rose/Fuller wife of Henry Fuller. Would like to make contact with others researching this Rose family. Kind regards Dianna

ANSWER TO BELOW: Linda, You didn't specify what type of information that you were looking for but here is his obituary. Gretchen FROM GENEALOGY BANK William A. Murray Owned and operated Bill's Custom Upholstery: Newspaper Obituary and Death Notice Erie Times-News (PA) - January 13, 2002 Deceased Name: William A. Murray Owned and operated Bill's Custom Upholstery William A. "Bill'' Murray, 61, 1838 East Lake Road, died Saturday, Jan. 12, 2002, at Millcreek Community Hospital after a brief illness. He was born March 12, 1940, in Windslow Township near Reynoldsville, son of the late Arthur and Olive Sherwood Murray. He had owned and operated Bill's Custom Upholstery since its founding in 1971. He also had worked as an upholsterer at John V. Schultz Co. in Erie. He had served in the U.S. Marine Corps. He was preceded in death by his wife, Sally J. Daugherty Murray, on Nov. 12, 1997; a sister, Carol Takach; and a brother, Victor Murray. Survivors include two daughters, Melissa Ann Diorazio and her husband, Jack Diorazio Jr., of North East, and Audrey Jean Norris of Wattsburg; three brothers, Harold Murray and his wife, Shirley, of North East, James Murray and Milton Murray, both of Erie; a sister, Linda Snyder of Reynoldsville; five grandchildren; and several nieces and nephews. Friends may call Monday from 2 to 5 and 7 to 9 p.m. at the Russell C. Schmidt & Son Funeral Home, 2926 Pine Ave., and attend a service there on Tuesday at 11 a.m. Burial will be at Wintergreen Gorge Cemetery. Page: 7 Copyright (c) 2002 Erie Times-News ORIGINAL QUESTION: From: "HONDA COMPANY UK" <lindadougan047@velocity.net> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Murrary To: Roots-L@rootsweb.com Looking for information on William A Murray, born March12, 1940 in Winslow Co Pa, died Jan 12 2002 in Erie Pa,

I've not seen any one post a link for this useful aid. There is an indexing progress map that may be of interest to others. https://www.familysearch.org/1940census/?cid=fsHomeT1940Text_v2 Why no join in with the indexing project while you are at it. https://the1940census.com/getting-started/ The more volunteers the faster it gets done. Joan Asche

stevemorse.org has a form by which you can get close using street - go play with it <G> when you click on view image it goes straight to archives.gov and the images load well and save brilliantly <G> in my humble opinion <G> Eliz On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Dixie Hickey <dixie987@lighttube.net> wrote: > Is there an "easy" (simple) way to find out the Enumeration District if you > know the street on which someone lived when the 1940 census was > taken?  Thanks in advance. Dixie > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The problem with speech recognition software is that the user "trains" the software using their own speech by reciting prescribed passages In the case mentioned here of pre recorded tapes, I presume the person who made the tapes is not around to train the software So accuracy of results will be diminished as a result Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > You're a little out of date; minimum wage is $7.25. > > I haven't tried speech recognition software but I can see the value as well as the pitfalls. I > think you'd have to do some careful checking and editing, especially for words like "their" and > "there" or "read" and "reed" etc. > > Gale Gorman > Houston > > > On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Mark Shaffer wrote: > > 20 hours at minimum wage, you're looking at $80. The time needed and > labor rate will most likely be higher, especially if you want a > professional. You might want to consider using a speech recognition > software. It might be more cost effective. Here is one, but there are > probably others. > http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/index.htm > > Mark >> Hi -- >> >> I have about ten 90-minute tapes of interviews that I'd like to get >> transcribed into Word. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reliable, >> reasonably priced person who could do this? I'd prefer a professional. >> >> Thanks! >> Cairril

----- Original Message ----- From: "HONDA COMPANY UK" <lindadougan047@velocity.net> To: <roots-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:00 AM Subject: [ROOTS-L] (no subject) > Reasearching the William Murray Family, b in 1940 in winslow pa and died > jan 2002 in Erie pa. lindadougan047@velocity.net Suggestion: Always a good idea to enter something into the Subject line --- nothing usually means it gets deleted immediately. A family name entered may be recognized by someone and will be responded to quickly. Second suggestion is to give the full location --- include that county name, as that is where records are usually accessed and how you begin your search. Winslow, Jefferson Co PA Erie, Erie Co PA Name: William A Murray Birth Date: 12 Mar 1940 Age at Death: 61 Death Date: 12 Jan 2002 Burial Place: Erie, Erie County, Pennsylvania, USA Buried:Wintergreen Gorge Cemetery, 2601 Norcross Road, Erie PA 16510. Son of Arthur (1916-1990) and Olive Sherwood Murray. Both are also buried here; other Murray names also shown. Olive is shown as Olive M Murray (1921-1967) Ref.: Find A Grave http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi ~ Trevia Trevia Wooster Beverly Houston, Texas 713.864-6862 Coordinator, Angelina College Genealogy Conference http://www.angelina.edu/genealogy/genealogy.html Member APG http://www.apgen.org/ SSA. http://southwestarchivists.org/ TSHA. http://www.tshaonline.org/ Harris County Historical Commission (1995 - ) http://www.historicalcommission.hctx.net/

Reasearching the William Murray Family, b in 1940 in winslow pa and died jan 2002 in Erie pa. lindadougan047@velocity.net

Looking for information on William murrary born in 1940, Winslow pa, died in 2002, Erie pa. Thank You, lindadougan047@velocity.net

I just had to comment on your comment. I was raised (somewhat) in MO, TN, VA, and KY. Then at 17, I went into the Navy and learned new language skills followed by 32 years in power plants adding to my skill inventory. I bought a speech recogition software a number of years ago. Set it all up and read a paragraph. It managed to get one word correct. My wife cracked up witnessing this wonderous effort. I am sure the software is better these days and maybe I need a diction lesson or two. It does sound like an idea worth trying. Ron Submarine Vet. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Gale Gorman wrote: > You're a little out of date; minimum wage is $7.25. > > I haven't tried speech recognition software but I can see the value as > well as the pitfalls. I think you'd have to do some careful checking > and editing, especially for words like "their" and "there" or "read" > and "reed" etc. > > Gale Gorman > Houston > > > On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Mark Shaffer wrote: > > 20 hours at minimum wage, you're looking at $80. The time needed and > labor rate will most likely be higher, especially if you want a > professional. You might want to consider using a speech recognition > software. It might be more cost effective. Here is one, but there > are probably others. > http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/index.htm > > Mark >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:51:51 -0400 >> From: Cairril<cairril@cairril.com> >> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Transcriber needed >> To: Rootsweb mailing list<ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID:<4F7C7C27.7090208@cairril.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Hi -- >> >> I have about ten 90-minute tapes of interviews that I'd like to get >> transcribed into Word. Does anyone have any suggestions for a >> reliable, >> reasonably priced person who could do this? I'd prefer a >> professional. >> >> Thanks! >> Cairril > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carril, All I can suggest is that you look for an audio typist. Perhaps there is a retiree who may help, or a charitable trust which offers services. Good luck. Richard Brown > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:51:51 -0400 > From: Cairril <cairril@cairril.com> > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Transcriber needed > Hi -- > > I have about ten 90-minute tapes of interviews that I'd like to get > transcribed into Word. Does anyone have any suggestions for  a reliable, > reasonably priced person who could do this? I'd prefer a professional. > > Thanks! > Cairril -- Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. Member of: - E. Surrey Family History Society          )   And in http://www.eastsurreyfhs.org.uk/           )   very Lincolnshire Family History Society       )  good http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/          )  company.

Looking for information on William A Murray, born March12, 1940 in Winslow Co Pa, died Jan 12 2002 in Erie Pa,

My first wife had a slow Texas drawl and we lived in many states. Sometimes people would ask her to repeat herself just to hear how a certain word came out. A meat cutter in Denver asked where she was from and she said "Minnesota" like it was a long sentence. Gale Gorman Houston On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: I just had to comment on your comment. I was raised (somewhat) in MO, TN, VA, and KY. Then at 17, I went into the Navy and learned new language skills followed by 32 years in power plants adding to my skill inventory. I bought a speech recogition software a number of years ago. Set it all up and read a paragraph. It managed to get one word correct. My wife cracked up witnessing this wonderous effort. I am sure the software is better these days and maybe I need a diction lesson or two. It does sound like an idea worth trying. Ron Submarine Vet. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Gale Gorman wrote: > You're a little out of date; minimum wage is $7.25. > > I haven't tried speech recognition software but I can see the value as well as the pitfalls. I think you'd have to do some careful checking and editing, especially for words like "their" and "there" or "read" and "reed" etc. > > Gale Gorman > Houston > > > On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Mark Shaffer wrote: > > 20 hours at minimum wage, you're looking at $80. The time needed and labor rate will most likely be higher, especially if you want a professional. You might want to consider using a speech recognition software. It might be more cost effective. Here is one, but there are probably others. http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/index.htm > > Mark >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:51:51 -0400 >> From: Cairril<cairril@cairril.com> >> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Transcriber needed >> To: Rootsweb mailing list<ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID:<4F7C7C27.7090208@cairril.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Hi -- >> >> I have about ten 90-minute tapes of interviews that I'd like to get >> transcribed into Word. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reliable, >> reasonably priced person who could do this? I'd prefer a professional. >> >> Thanks! >> Cairril >

Just thought of more pitfalls for voice recognition. This is allergy season and many people are unconsciously clearing their throats. Wonder how that translates digitally? I have two female acquaintances that do medical transcribing. They both complain of how difficult it can be to interpret what they hear at times. Gale Gorman Houston On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: I just had to comment on your comment. I was raised (somewhat) in MO, TN, VA, and KY. Then at 17, I went into the Navy and learned new language skills followed by 32 years in power plants adding to my skill inventory. I bought a speech recogition software a number of years ago. Set it all up and read a paragraph. It managed to get one word correct. My wife cracked up witnessing this wonderous effort. I am sure the software is better these days and maybe I need a diction lesson or two. It does sound like an idea worth trying. Ron Submarine Vet. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Gale Gorman wrote: > You're a little out of date; minimum wage is $7.25. > > I haven't tried speech recognition software but I can see the value as well as the pitfalls. I think you'd have to do some careful checking and editing, especially for words like "their" and "there" or "read" and "reed" etc. > > Gale Gorman > Houston > > > On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Mark Shaffer wrote: > > 20 hours at minimum wage, you're looking at $80. The time needed and labor rate will most likely be higher, especially if you want a professional. You might want to consider using a speech recognition software. It might be more cost effective. Here is one, but there are probably others. http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/index.htm > > Mark >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:51:51 -0400 >> From: Cairril<cairril@cairril.com> >> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Transcriber needed >> To: Rootsweb mailing list<ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID:<4F7C7C27.7090208@cairril.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Hi -- >> >> I have about ten 90-minute tapes of interviews that I'd like to get >> transcribed into Word. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reliable, >> reasonably priced person who could do this? I'd prefer a professional. >> >> Thanks! >> Cairril

20 hours at minimum wage, you're looking at $80. The time needed and labor rate will most likely be higher, especially if you want a professional. You might want to consider using a speech recognition software. It might be more cost effective. Here is one, but there are probably others. http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/index.htm Mark > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:51:51 -0400 > From: Cairril<cairril@cairril.com> > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Transcriber needed > To: Rootsweb mailing list<ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<4F7C7C27.7090208@cairril.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi -- > > I have about ten 90-minute tapes of interviews that I'd like to get > transcribed into Word. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reliable, > reasonably priced person who could do this? I'd prefer a professional. > > Thanks! > Cairril

You're a little out of date; minimum wage is $7.25. I haven't tried speech recognition software but I can see the value as well as the pitfalls. I think you'd have to do some careful checking and editing, especially for words like "their" and "there" or "read" and "reed" etc. Gale Gorman Houston On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Mark Shaffer wrote: 20 hours at minimum wage, you're looking at $80. The time needed and labor rate will most likely be higher, especially if you want a professional. You might want to consider using a speech recognition software. It might be more cost effective. Here is one, but there are probably others. http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-pc/index.htm Mark > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:51:51 -0400 > From: Cairril<cairril@cairril.com> > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Transcriber needed > To: Rootsweb mailing list<ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<4F7C7C27.7090208@cairril.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi -- > > I have about ten 90-minute tapes of interviews that I'd like to get > transcribed into Word. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reliable, > reasonably priced person who could do this? I'd prefer a professional. > > Thanks! > Cairril

Is there an "easy" (simple) way to find out the Enumeration District if you know the street on which someone lived when the 1940 census was taken? Thanks in advance. Dixie