See the Texas Historical Commission at http://www.thc.state.tx.us/ See Cemeteries in the side bar. Also, The Association of Gravestone Studies at http://www.gravestonestudies.org/ Trevia Wooster Beverly Houston, Texas -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of T. Risinger Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:10 AM To: Kathie Harrison; Gale Gorman Cc: ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Cleaning tombstones I have never cleaned an tombstones, so I really do not know. I do know of some that were cleaned by someone else. They used soap (not detergent), water and a wire brush. These markers were heavily covered with lichen. The markers were white marble. I believe the cleaning was benificial to the markers, as they are in better shape than some simular ones near by. They were clean about ten or fifteen years ago. For the real picky folks, anything that you rub against a stone will scratch or dull the finish on a polish marker. That includes making rubbing. A wire brush can have a couple of effects. First off it technically scratches the marker. If the wire is of plain steel (iron), some of the steel wears off. These tiny particles will make a brown rust spot on the marker years later. Soft wire brushes (aluminum or brass) will mark (write on) the marker. That will erode way in years to come. Last but not least is the water. Almost all tape water has cloriene in it any more. If it is an area where the water is hard, (mineral deposit) that can stain the marker. If I do any cleaning before taking a picture it is just brushing off the loose grass and bird crap. I use a three or four inch soft paint brush for that. I poke the handle of that in my back pocket when not in use. TR --- On Thu, 5/3/12, Gale Gorman <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: From: Gale Gorman <gale_gorman@me.com> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Cleaning tombstones To: "Kathie Harrison" <harrison28@gmail.com> Cc: JYoung6180@aol.com, ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com, knoxcone@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 1:33 PM On May 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Kathie Harrison wrote: Tom, I started that list and it was hugely subscribed to and I ran it for the first couple years and had alot of bickering on it with the pros and cons of cleaning tombstones... -----------snip---------- I have a few grave markers I need to visit and clean. What's the best method or solution? Gale Gorman Houston ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all- I came across an article in the Wall St Journal with a list of archaic diseases found mentioned in classic literature. I thought it might help those of you who find these terms on ancestor's death certificates or in family histories: Ague= malarial fever Brain fever = meningitis Catarrh= inflammation that leads to mucous discharge from nose or throat Consumption=tuberculosis Grippe = influenza Humid tetter = eczema Jail fever or ship fever = typhus Low Spirits = depression Lues venereal = syphillis Morphew = scurvy blisters, caused by insufficient levels of vitamin C Podagra= gout Stopping = constipation Variola = smallpox. Joanne Steckling

Well, not that it matters now, as Phil has apparently solved his problem, but The Master Genealogist (TMG) allows you to open one project on two computers, two projects on one computer, or one on one computer and the other on the other computer. A "project" is a completely separate database. Within a "project" you may have more than one "dataset" -- say your family in one, your brother's in the other -- and you may move/copy people and tags from one dataset to the other. You cannot, as near as I can determine, copy from one project to the other. The way to "fix" this, of course, is to add the brother's project to your project as a dataset. The families remain separate, but they are "there" in the background. Hope this helps. Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of George W. Durman Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 4:00 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Cc: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Help needed with program Phil, the only genealogy program I know of that allows two copies of a database (or two different databases) to be opened is RootsMagic. You can find it at RootsMagic.com. Actually, only one copy of the program runs, but it allows multiple databases to be open in it at the same time. They can be tiled for easy dragging and dropping. Sarge

Joanne: Thank you so much! I should have thought of compiling terms as I was trying to decipher death causes on old certificates. I will share this with our genealogy club. Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Steckling" <joanne@jsteckling.com> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Archaic diseases > I came across an article in the Wall St Journal with a list of archaic > diseases found mentioned in classic literature. I thought it might help > those of you who find these terms on ancestor's death certificates or in > family histories: > Ague= malarial fever > Brain fever = meningitis > Catarrh= inflammation that leads to mucous discharge from nose or throat > Consumption=tuberculosis > Grippe = influenza > Humid tetter = eczema > Jail fever or ship fever = typhus > Low Spirits = depression > Lues venereal = syphillis > Morphew = scurvy blisters, caused by insufficient levels of vitamin C > Podagra= gout > Stopping = constipation > Variola = smallpox. > > Joanne Steckling

I can't find my brochure I got from a local maker of toombstones, but if you know of one in your area, email or call them to see what they recommendmnd and if they have a brochure they could send you.  That is how I got my brochure.  They had a lot of good info. "Everything that is happening to me is in divine order and comes with a lesson"

I have never cleaned an tombstones, so I really do not know. I do know of some that were cleaned by someone else. They used soap (not detergent), water and a wire brush. These markers were heavily covered with lichen. The markers were white marble. I believe the cleaning was benificial to the markers, as they are in better shape than some simular ones near by. They were clean about ten or fifteen years ago. For the real picky folks, anything that you rub against a stone will scratch or dull the finish on a polish marker. That includes making rubbing. A wire brush can have a couple of effects. First off it technically scratches the marker. If the wire is of plain steel (iron), some of the steel wears off. These tiny particles will make a brown rust spot on the marker years later. Soft wire brushes (aluminum or brass) will mark (write on) the marker. That will erode way in years to come. Last but not least is the water. Almost all tape water has cloriene in it any more. If it is an area where the water is hard, (mineral deposit) that can stain the marker. If I do any cleaning before taking a picture it is just brushing off the loose grass and bird crap. I use a three or four inch soft paint brush for that. I poke the handle of that in my back pocket when not in use. TR --- On Thu, 5/3/12, Gale Gorman <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: From: Gale Gorman <gale_gorman@me.com> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Cleaning tombstones To: "Kathie Harrison" <harrison28@gmail.com> Cc: JYoung6180@aol.com, ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com, knoxcone@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 1:33 PM On May 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Kathie Harrison wrote: Tom, I started that list and it was hugely subscribed to and I ran it for the first couple years and had alot of bickering on it with the pros and cons of cleaning tombstones... -----------snip---------- I have a few grave markers I need to visit and clean. What's the best method or solution? Gale Gorman Houston

four ways;: file or graphic to copy or paste to place cursor on copy to be moved... and drag it to final destination THIS IS TO MOVE FILES.. AS IN CUT AND PASTE.. ((( I do not recommend this as sometimes file gets dropped into incorrect file and folder or drive.. and it also drags along stuff you do not wish to drag along.. ) keep in mind: right click brings up menu for additional commands.. left click executes that command 2. place cursor on file or graphic or highlighted text to be copied (cut) , go to menu bar "edit' scroll down to copy then locate desitination folder and EDIT , scroll down to paste.. it copies and pastes.. 2. place cursor on file or graphic or highlighted text to be copied (cut) then right click on mouse or on touch pad right pad.. and left click locate destination folder... and then again, right click on the mouse or touch pad right pad .. and left click to paste. and right click to execute command. finally what was suggested earlier.. use of the CTRL key and C for copy and then CTRL key and V for paste.. Gloria hope I put it all in.. (can google and get written instructions or even U tube) On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: > It is possible most of us use the mouse way, right click brings up the Copy > Cut or paste menu and then click where you want it to go and right click > and choose paste. I use both <G> > > > > Eliz > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:06 PM, duane canaday <searcher51us@yahoo.com > >wrote: > > > I do not know how other people copy and paste, but I know that the old > way > > I learned was to highlight the text I want to copy then using the > keyboard > > hit Control+C to copy then I go to where I want to paste the text and > after > > clicking there and seeing a cursor blinking there I hit Control+V to > paste. > > > > The way to remember this is the C stands for Copy and the V looks like a > > scissors and stands for Paste. > > > > Am I just old fashioned? I hardly ever use any other way even if it is > > provided. > > > > Duane Canaday > > > > > > > > > > May Jesus Christ Be Praised! > > ===== > > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I am seeking assistance with several monumental inscription look-ups for St Mary & All Saints Cemetery in Fillongley, Warwickshire, England.  I would be happy to trade look-ups on Ancestry or 2nd edition NBI if anyone is interested.   I am looking for information on the following individuals:   Ann Rogers buried May 24, 1797 Jos Rogers buried  April 4, 1790 Jos Rogers buried June 4, 1799 Thos Rogers buried April 13, 1760 Anne Rogers buried November 25, 1755   Thanks!   Nancy Beckman

Hi Guys , Phil here , I got it working !!! , after my midmorning nap I remembered I had two copies of Brothers`keeper loaded , Now moving the 600 people my brother has on his A.com tree that I am missing , Thanks for the help , Me ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Stevens" <bstevens27@frontier.com> To: "BK@rootsweb.com" <bk@rootsweb.com> Cc: <roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:19 PM Subject: [ROOTS-L] Help needed with program > Hello guys , I need to have two copies of my" genie " program running at > same time > so i can drag an drop info between them , Some time ago I did just that , > but can`t make it work today , " Got Help ? , Phil > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Phil, the only genealogy program I know of that allows two copies of a database (or two different databases) to be opened is RootsMagic. You can find it at RootsMagic.com. Actually, only one copy of the program runs, but it allows multiple databases to be open in it at the same time. They can be tiled for easy dragging and dropping. Sarge At 5/3/2012 05:19 PM Thursday, Phil Stevens wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* > Hello guys , I need to have two copies of my" genie " program running at >same time > so i can drag an drop info between them , Some time ago I did just that , >but can`t make it work today , " Got Help ? , Phil **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Germanna Database at Ancestry: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/recent?o_iid=41125&o_lid=41125&o_sch=Web+Property My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

It is possible most of us use the mouse way, right click brings up the Copy Cut or paste menu and then click where you want it to go and right click and choose paste. I use both <G> Eliz On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:06 PM, duane canaday <searcher51us@yahoo.com>wrote: > I do not know how other people copy and paste, but I know that the old way > I learned was to highlight the text I want to copy then using the keyboard > hit Control+C to copy then I go to where I want to paste the text and after > clicking there and seeing a cursor blinking there I hit Control+V to paste. > > The way to remember this is the C stands for Copy and the V looks like a > scissors and stands for Paste. > > Am I just old fashioned? I hardly ever use any other way even if it is > provided. > > Duane Canaday > > > > > May Jesus Christ Be Praised! > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

GenealogyBank.com is only $48.95 a year so 5 bucks a month is not a bargain. Gale Gorman Houston On May 3, 2012, at 4:14 PM, duane canaday wrote: Hi folks: I received an offer from one of the genealogy outfits to get a special subscription price of less than 5 bucks a month to subscribe to Genealogy Bank. The offer ends May 4th. It does not say anywhere in the offer if there is a minimum number of months to subscribe or what it might be. Does anybody know if there is a minimum time required and what it is? It just drives me crazy that they make offers and do not disclose the terms on the page offering it. For me that is a good excuse for me to reject the offer. Thanks, Duane Canaday

I knew that was coming. They vary. Some are granite and resemble a more recent monument even though the date is c.1910. Some are the off-white stone tall in shape and difficult to read unless the light is just right to create shadows of the letters. The gray granite markers mostly have a mossy mildewed appearance. The off-white markers are speckled with no telling what. Then there is one in Arkansas that is probably granite but not faced off as smooth as most markers. Gale Gorman Houston On May 3, 2012, at 2:14 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: what kind of stones are they? Cleaning is not same for every stone. Most requires only water. David Samuelsen On 5/3/2012 12:33 PM, Gale Gorman wrote: > > On May 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Kathie Harrison wrote: > > Tom, I started that list and it was hugely subscribed to and I ran it > for the first couple years and had alot of bickering on it with the > pros and cons of cleaning tombstones... > -----------snip---------- > > I have a few grave markers I need to visit and clean. What's the best method or solution? > > Gale Gorman > Houston >

Off white-speckled? That would be usually lichen, leave them alone. Birds pick them off to make their nests. The stones are usually polished Niagara limestone or similiar to it. White marble - take extreme care while clean with only water. Anything else will cause wear off because these types of marble are soft. Gray granite is not necessary smooth. They're not intended to be polished, comes from Vermont granite. Can be difficult to clean with pressured water. Use nylon brush Polished quartz are in vogue from 1940s onwards. Chipped quartz are usually blue or red. Red is worst when it come to cleaning and photographing. Lately, seen in current active cemeteries - black "lacquered" marble from China. This solution from France has interesting method http://www.valmour.fr/advices/gravestone-maintenance,121 David Samuelsen On 5/3/2012 1:56 PM, Gale Gorman wrote: > I knew that was coming. They vary. Some are granite and resemble a more recent monument even though the date is c.1910. Some are the off-white stone tall in shape and difficult to read unless the light is just right to create shadows of the letters. > > The gray granite markers mostly have a mossy mildewed appearance. The off-white markers are speckled with no telling what. > > Then there is one in Arkansas that is probably granite but not faced off as smooth as most markers. > > Gale Gorman > Houston > > > On May 3, 2012, at 2:14 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > > what kind of stones are they? Cleaning is not same for every stone. > Most requires only water. > > David Samuelsen > > On 5/3/2012 12:33 PM, Gale Gorman wrote: >> >> On May 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Kathie Harrison wrote: >> >> Tom, I started that list and it was hugely subscribed to and I ran it >> for the first couple years and had alot of bickering on it with the >> pros and cons of cleaning tombstones... >> -----------snip---------- >> >> I have a few grave markers I need to visit and clean. What's the best method or solution? >> >> Gale Gorman >> Houston >> >

Hello guys , I need to have two copies of my" genie " program running at same time so i can drag an drop info between them , Some time ago I did just that , but can`t make it work today , " Got Help ? , Phil

Hi folks: I received an offer from one of the genealogy outfits to get a special subscription price of less than 5 bucks a month to subscribe to Genealogy Bank. The offer ends May 4th. It does not say anywhere in the offer if there is a minimum number of months to subscribe or what it might be. Does anybody know if there is a minimum time required and what it is? It just drives me crazy that they make offers and do not disclose the terms on the page offering it. For me that is a good excuse for me to reject the offer. Thanks, Duane Canaday   May Jesus Christ Be Praised!

I do not know how other people copy and paste, but I know that the old way I learned was to highlight the text I want to copy then using the keyboard hit Control+C to copy then I go to where I want to paste the text and after clicking there and seeing a cursor blinking there I hit Control+V to paste. The way to remember this is the C stands for Copy and the V looks like a scissors and stands for Paste. Am I just old fashioned? I hardly ever use any other way even if it is provided. Duane Canaday   May Jesus Christ Be Praised!

On May 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Kathie Harrison wrote: Tom, I started that list and it was hugely subscribed to and I ran it for the first couple years and had alot of bickering on it with the pros and cons of cleaning tombstones... -----------snip---------- I have a few grave markers I need to visit and clean. What's the best method or solution? Gale Gorman Houston

what kind of stones are they? Cleaning is not same for every stone. Most requires only water. David Samuelsen On 5/3/2012 12:33 PM, Gale Gorman wrote: > > On May 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Kathie Harrison wrote: > > Tom, I started that list and it was hugely subscribed to and I ran it > for the first couple years and had alot of bickering on it with the > pros and cons of cleaning tombstones... > -----------snip---------- > > I have a few grave markers I need to visit and clean. What's the best method or solution? > > Gale Gorman > Houston > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tom, I started that list and it was hugely subscribed to and I ran it for the first couple years and had alot of bickering on it with the pros and cons of cleaning tombstones that I finally turned it over to a new admin. I do not think any of the lists should be closed. The time they start doing that someone WILL come along and want a new list for the same topic. It will serve a purpose to some at one point or another. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:36 AM, <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > Just because a RootsWeb list has no administrator doesn't mean the list > serves no purpose. RootsWeb doesn't shut lists down but does make unadminned > lists adoptable. Perhaps you would like to adopt the list and care for it? > > If you mean why didn't the spam get blocked and not come through to the > list, that is generally the result of a subscriber to the list whose email > account has become compromised by a hacker. Non subscribers wouldn't be able > to  send spam to the RootsWeb lists which are "closed" to non-subscribers. > If  you contact the RootsWeb HelpDesk about the spam you got via the list > they will  take care of removing it from the list archives. So just delete the > spam and  forget it after you have let the HelpDesk know. > > Joan > > > In a message dated 5/3/2012 4:59:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > knoxcone@yahoo.com writes: > > How many  of the Rootsweb mailing lists go unmonitored any > more and should be shut  down. > > > > The Tombstone > list just had a pharmaceutical  message come though. The previous message > was 11 > Jul 2009. That is probably  one that should be closed. There are a lot of > others. Posts could be made  to this list and maybe revive it a  bit. > > > > TR -- ~~~~~ Take care, Kathie Harrison Lancaster Co., NEGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nelancas/