Thank you for your suggestions regarding the location of William Mayo's grave, and his obit. Bill was the son of Marion Seymour Mayo. While his middle name is not available to me at the moment, it is not Ernest, I think. The Mayo's usually picked out a family name and Ernest doesn't fit the bill. Bill was killed in Dec, 1944. Family tradition says Marion died shortly after bringing Bill home from Europe. Uncle Marion's wife was Beatrix [Tomkins] MAYO of Houston. I am so relieved to know where Marion - Doc - is buried. I thank you so much for the information. The Hall of Remembrance William MAYO must be another Bill. Not an uncommon name, it appears per Jean Bunch's Google suggestion. Why Marion's Bill is not in the same location is a puzzle. I''ll try the Westwood cemetery and the other military one in Riverside. Many thanks - Avery

Already tried military cemeteries site- no listing of William Mayo. Riverside National is too recent, it did not exist before 1976. First burials were on Nov 11, 1978, effectively ruled it out. Los Angeles National was in existence but no William Mayo there. Westwood showed only one Mayo - a Nick Mayo, died 1983. David S. On 5/27/2012 4:00 PM, Avery Booth Stone wrote: > Why Marion's Bill is not in the same location is a puzzle. I''ll try > the Westwood cemetery and the other military one in Riverside.

Greetings, The Fort Worth Library is pleased to offer the following genealogy workshop, Searching the 1940 Census and Planning Your Genealogy Research Trip, on Saturday, June 16, 2012 from 2-4:30 pm at the Central Library -- Tandy Lecture Hall. This two-part workshop will show you how to locate your ancestors in the 1940 Census by finding pertinent enumeration district numbers, and how to plan for and organize a genealogy research trip. Suzanne Fritz and Terri Meeks will be the respective presenters. There will be a break between sessions with refreshments served. I should have the flyer later this week to send out to everyone. Registration is required. Please call (817)392-7740 or email genlhst@fortworthtexas.gov<mailto:genlhst@fortworthtexas.gov> to reserve your spot. Please see the Fort Worth Library website for further details http://fortworthtexas.gov/Library/ Sincerely, Suzanne Fritz, Librarian Fort Worth Library - Central Local History, Archives & Genealogy suzanne.fritz@FortWorthTexas.gov

Hello - On this Memorial Day I think often of my cousin, William MAYO, a Lt in the US Army Air Corps, pilot of a B-17 shot down returning from a mission over Germany. His body was brought home by his father, Marion MAYO. They were residents of Los Angeles. I would so appreciate guidance toward finding his obit in CA paper, and the site of his burial. Thank you - Avery

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Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I agree with those who say the newspaper got it wrong. As I told Nelda, Myrtle must have said when she read the article, "reports of my death are exaggerated." Seriously, though, if Myrtle died from the effects of the crash a few years later, as appears possible, that's pretty sad. Incidentally, if anyone wants to get a flavor for the times, I suggest looking at this article on genealogybank.com. Beneath the Venters collision article, there is an absolutely bizarre item about a Mrs. Newberry who had just departed Morrisonville for Chicago, as her husband had been found in the dissecting room of the Post Graduate Medical School of CHicago. The body had been "pickled" and taken to the school for use by the students. He had taken ill on the streets of Chicago, died, and was buried in a potter's field. Beneath that, there's an article about 3 members of a family who died from drinking wood alcohol. The good ole days weren't always so good. Barton On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Kith-n-Kin wrote: > Well, for odd, this one makes the top ten list. > > "Mr. and Mrs. Moses Venters Sturck by Big Four Fast Train -- Former > Killed > and wife seriously injured." > > NOW, that would mean that MOSES Venters was killed. But, as you noted, > the > article further says "and fatally injured Mrs. Venters." "Mr. Venters > was > seriously hurt, but will live." > > BUT, let's go further. > 17 Nov 1909, the Daily Ill State Journal had another article. > > Shelbyville -- Moses Venters settled with the Big Four railroad for > fifty > dollars for injuries he received when his buggy was wrecked by a > train. > > Hmm. Obviously he lived -- but why settle for only his "injuries?" > Why not > for wife if she died? > > To the Census. 1900 has only one Moses in Shelbyville (location of the > train > accident). Moses is 44, Myrtle is 19. Moses mother, Artie M, 65, is > also on > the census with them, and son, Charles W, 7/12. > > In 1910, Moses is 54, Myrtle is 20, married eleven years. Myrtle has > had > five children, four living -- Charlie W, 10, Orpha I, 6, Clyde L, 4, > Paul e, > 1 11/12, plus Moses' mother, Artie, now 75. > > Pretty clear that Myrtle survived the crash. If anyone died, it might > have > been a child. Or, the newspaper could simply have gotten it wrong. I > suggest > the latter. > > It does appear that she died before 1916, as she does not appear on > the Ill > Deaths and Stillbirths Index. > > I suggest that checking with the Shelby County Court for a copy of the > lawsuit would be helpful. > > Pat > In Tucson > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Barton Lewis > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:33 PM > To: roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Big Mystery > > Hello, > > I'm writing to ask if anyone has a theory about the following: Moses > Venters appears in the 1900 and 1910 Shelby County, IL censuses with > his > wife, Myrtle, and children. Myrtle is 19 in 1900 and 29 in 1910. > She's b. > in IL and her parents b. in OH in both. Clearly, it's the same woman. > In > the 23 Feb 1907 issue of the Illinois State Register, there's an item > about > a train and car collision near Shelbyville, IL with the headline "Mr. > and > Mrs. Moses Venters Struck by Big Four Fast Train-Former Killed and > Wife > Seriously Injured." The article itself says "Mrs. Venters was fatally > injured" and "Mr. Venters was seriously hurt, but will live." The > article > can be found by searching for Moses Venters in historical newspapers > on > genealogybank.com. > > Moses Venters died on 12 Mar 1934 in Shelby County. Did Myrtle > Venters > return from the dead? I can't figure this one out for the life of me. > > Thanks for any light anyone can shed. > > Barton Lewis > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

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Dear Barton and Alan, I searched Ancestry.com and found Moses Venters' death certificate. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=moses&gsln=venters&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2cAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2c+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2cAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2c+&sbo=1&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-b&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=1372742&recoff=7+8+62&db=FSIllinoisDeath&indiv=1 It gives Moses' birthdate in 1856 and his parents' names -- David Venters and Artie Reed. At the time of his death Moses' marital status was "divorced". The maiden name of his (ex) wife was Myrtle Elben. In the 1930 census in Shelby County, Illinois, Moses' marital status is still "married", but Myrtle is not enumerated in his household. I thought Alan's theory was an excellent one, but it turns out not to be true. My theory now is that the newspaper account exaggerated in1907 when it said that Mrs. Venters was "fatally" injured. Dorothy At 9:57 AM -0700 5/26/12, Kith-n-Kin wrote: >Well, for odd, this one makes the top ten list. > >"Mr. and Mrs. Moses Venters Sturck by Big Four Fast Train -- Former Killed >and wife seriously injured." > >NOW, that would mean that MOSES Venters was killed. But, as you noted, the >article further says "and fatally injured Mrs. Venters." "Mr. Venters was >seriously hurt, but will live." > >BUT, let's go further. > >17 Nov 1909, the Daily Ill State Journal had another article. > >Shelbyville -- Moses Venters settled with the Big Four railroad for fifty >dollars for injuries he received when his buggy was wrecked by a train. > >Hmm. Obviously he lived -- but why settle for only his "injuries?" Why not >for wife if she died? > >To the Census. 1900 has only one Moses in Shelbyville (location of the train >accident). Moses is 44, Myrtle is 19. Moses mother, Artie M, 65, is also on >the census with them, and son, Charles W, 7/12. > >In 1910, Moses is 54, Myrtle is 20, married eleven years. Myrtle has had >five children, four living -- Charlie W, 10, Orpha I, 6, Clyde L, 4, Paul e, >1 11/12, plus Moses' mother, Artie, now 75. > >Pretty clear that Myrtle survived the crash. If anyone died, it might have >been a child. Or, the newspaper could simply have gotten it wrong. I suggest >the latter. > >It does appear that she died before 1916, as she does not appear on the Ill >Deaths and Stillbirths Index. > >I suggest that checking with the Shelby County Court for a copy of the >lawsuit would be helpful. > >Pat >In Tucson > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Barton Lewis >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:33 PM >To: roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ROOTS-L] Big Mystery > >Hello, > >I'm writing to ask if anyone has a theory about the following: Moses >Venters appears in the 1900 and 1910 Shelby County, IL censuses with his >wife, Myrtle, and children. Myrtle is 19 in 1900 and 29 in 1910. She's b. >in IL and her parents b. in OH in both. Clearly, it's the same woman. In >the 23 Feb 1907 issue of the Illinois State Register, there's an item about >a train and car collision near Shelbyville, IL with the headline "Mr. and >Mrs. Moses Venters Struck by Big Four Fast Train-Former Killed and Wife >Seriously Injured." The article itself says "Mrs. Venters was fatally >injured" and "Mr. Venters was seriously hurt, but will live." The article >can be found by searching for Moses Venters in historical newspapers on >genealogybank.com. > >Moses Venters died on 12 Mar 1934 in Shelby County. Did Myrtle Venters >return from the dead? I can't figure this one out for the life of me. > >Thanks for any light anyone can shed. > >Barton Lewis >===== >If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > >===== >If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, for odd, this one makes the top ten list. "Mr. and Mrs. Moses Venters Sturck by Big Four Fast Train -- Former Killed and wife seriously injured." NOW, that would mean that MOSES Venters was killed. But, as you noted, the article further says "and fatally injured Mrs. Venters." "Mr. Venters was seriously hurt, but will live." BUT, let's go further. 17 Nov 1909, the Daily Ill State Journal had another article. Shelbyville -- Moses Venters settled with the Big Four railroad for fifty dollars for injuries he received when his buggy was wrecked by a train. Hmm. Obviously he lived -- but why settle for only his "injuries?" Why not for wife if she died? To the Census. 1900 has only one Moses in Shelbyville (location of the train accident). Moses is 44, Myrtle is 19. Moses mother, Artie M, 65, is also on the census with them, and son, Charles W, 7/12. In 1910, Moses is 54, Myrtle is 20, married eleven years. Myrtle has had five children, four living -- Charlie W, 10, Orpha I, 6, Clyde L, 4, Paul e, 1 11/12, plus Moses' mother, Artie, now 75. Pretty clear that Myrtle survived the crash. If anyone died, it might have been a child. Or, the newspaper could simply have gotten it wrong. I suggest the latter. It does appear that she died before 1916, as she does not appear on the Ill Deaths and Stillbirths Index. I suggest that checking with the Shelby County Court for a copy of the lawsuit would be helpful. Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barton Lewis Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:33 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Big Mystery Hello, I'm writing to ask if anyone has a theory about the following: Moses Venters appears in the 1900 and 1910 Shelby County, IL censuses with his wife, Myrtle, and children. Myrtle is 19 in 1900 and 29 in 1910. She's b. in IL and her parents b. in OH in both. Clearly, it's the same woman. In the 23 Feb 1907 issue of the Illinois State Register, there's an item about a train and car collision near Shelbyville, IL with the headline "Mr. and Mrs. Moses Venters Struck by Big Four Fast Train-Former Killed and Wife Seriously Injured." The article itself says "Mrs. Venters was fatally injured" and "Mr. Venters was seriously hurt, but will live." The article can be found by searching for Moses Venters in historical newspapers on genealogybank.com. Moses Venters died on 12 Mar 1934 in Shelby County. Did Myrtle Venters return from the dead? I can't figure this one out for the life of me. Thanks for any light anyone can shed. Barton Lewis ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone I'm looking for details, marriage etc. of Jane Fuller from Co. Armstrong Kiskiminetas Twp born c 1819 to John and Rebecca Fuller. I believe Jane married a Samuel ORR I'm not sure of the date though, if anyone finds this couple of the census's etc. I would be very grateful. Another piece of the Fuller research to find. Kindest regards Dianna from Oz.

hello, can some one help me find an obituary for Alexander Santo. died 1907 Fairchild , Wisconsin. any information u can find would be a great help. thanks sherry

Possibly the Mr. and Mrs. Venters who were struck by the train were the parents of Myrtle's husband? It's not clear from what you posted, that the newspaper article mentions "Myrtle" by name, only "Mrs. Venters." Not a big stretch, though, to imagine that your Moses Venters had a father of the same name. If Myrtle's husband was aged similarly to her (mid 20s in 1907) then his father might have been in his 50s or even his 40s, and could have lived another 30 years or so if he survived the train. On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Barton Lewis <bartonlewis@optonline.net>wrote: > > Did Myrtle Venters return from the dead? >

Hello, I'm writing to ask if anyone has a theory about the following: Moses Venters appears in the 1900 and 1910 Shelby County, IL censuses with his wife, Myrtle, and children. Myrtle is 19 in 1900 and 29 in 1910. She's b. in IL and her parents b. in OH in both. Clearly, it's the same woman. In the 23 Feb 1907 issue of the Illinois State Register, there's an item about a train and car collision near Shelbyville, IL with the headline "Mr. and Mrs. Moses Venters Struck by Big Four Fast Train-Former Killed and Wife Seriously Injured." The article itself says "Mrs. Venters was fatally injured" and "Mr. Venters was seriously hurt, but will live." The article can be found by searching for Moses Venters in historical newspapers on genealogybank.com. Moses Venters died on 12 Mar 1934 in Shelby County. Did Myrtle Venters return from the dead? I can't figure this one out for the life of me. Thanks for any light anyone can shed. Barton Lewis

Looks like there is an effort to restore RAOGK. If you volunteered for RAOGK please check out: http://raogk.wikia.com/wiki/Random_Acts_of_Genealogical_Kindness_Wiki Joan Asche http://raogk.wikia.com/wiki/User:Southpawphilly

Testators of wills. 2 volumes added. New county listed. PA - Juniata Vol. A-E (1831-1917) 1516 records - completed (25 May 2012) Neighboring counties, might want to check this out. Snyder, Mifflin, Northumberland, Perry, Dauphin, Franklin, Huntingdon Counties. PA - Snyder vol. 1-2 (1855-1882) 376 records - completed (21 May 2012) PA - Greene Vol. 2-4 (1831-1874), 889 records (21 May 2012) http://www.sampubco.com/ There are other recent additions, not just Pennsylvania, but New York Virginia and Ohio and other states. and please use Freefind to search. Google site search is having problems (now getting better but not as good as FreeFind yet.) W. David Samuelsen

1920 United States Federal Census about Jr George Hebert Name: Jr George Hebert Age: 4 [4 11/12] Birth Year: abt 1916 [abt 1915] Birthplace: North Dakota Home in 1920: Fargo Ward 6, Cass, North Dakota Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: George Hebert Father's Birthplace: Minnesota Mother's Name: Etta R Hebert Mother's Birthplace: Minnesota Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age George Hebert 27 Etta R Hebert 26 George Hebert 4 b. North Dakota [4 11/12] Marie E Hebert 3 b. North Dakota [3 11/12] William E Hebert 2 b. North Dakota [2 6/12] theclown16

Greetings, The Fort Worth Library's Summer Reading Program will begin this Saturday, May 26, 2012. Please stop by any Fort Worth Library location to pick up a card. Any type of reading counts. Simply make a record of each day that you read and the amount of time that you spend reading. You do not have to read every day. Each card is good for 14 days. After 14 days (June 9th), you can bring your first completed card back in to us. You will receive a certificate of completion, a tote bag and a Fort Worth CATS voucher. (Children also receive a Texas Ranger voucher and a Fort Worth Museum of Science and History pass). The more cards you complete (up to a maximum of 5), the more chances you have at the grand prize drawing! Sincerely, Suzanne Fritz, Librarian Local History, Archives & Genealogy Fort Worth Library -- Central 500 W. 3rd Street Fort Worth, TX 76102 suzanne.fritz@FortWorthTexas.gov (817)392-8916

MyHeritage is the parent company and has worldwide reach equally formidable as Ancestry.com David Samuelsen On 5/23/2012 4:59 PM, DeAnn Leonard wrote: > Is this site worth it? > > I already have Ancestry World and Family Search > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is this site worth it? I already have Ancestry World and Family Search

ANSWER TO BELOW: Jan, Try Find a Grave again. You will find Warfield Barnes 1853-1923 buried in Elam United Methodist Cemetery in Glen Mills, Delaware County, Pennsylvania. Click on the Cemetery and ask for any Barnes. His wife Laura did not come up but there is a listing for an Emma G. "Barnes" Eachus 1880-1962. Probably the daughter. I also tried for first name only of Laura but no one looked promising. You might see if the cemetery can help you with Laura (not everyone is listed on find a grave). Perhaps she is buried there also. Just a thought. Hope this helps a little, Gretchen ORIGINAL QUESTION: From: Jan Bullock <jan@bullocks.org> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Warfield Barnes and Laura Bullock To: roots@rootsweb.com Need some help! Someone contacted me off my website, and this is not my family, but I do try to help. And you'd figure with a name like Warfield Barnes you'd be able to find just oodles of references. Warfield Barnes born CA 1854 Penn. Laura Bullock born CA 1851, both dates by census records. There's a Laura Bullock on the 1870 Delaware census, shown keeping house with Chockley Bullock, age 50 (maybe father). On the 1880 census those two are gone but Warfield Barnes and Laura T. Barnes are in Christiana Hundred with dau Emma. Jump to the 1900 census and Warfield is married to someone else. I'd say that probably Laura Barnes died between 1880-1900, but no record of a death (ancestry) The 1900 census does not show any children for Warfield, and since there is only one child listed that has to be this person's line. I've checked findagrave, ancestry, familysearch, mocavo and Delaware Genweb,all with either no records or very little. The one interesting thing is on the 1880 Laura is listed as being born in Penn, not Delaware. and on the 1870 census where Laura is listed she's born in Delaware. And the two public trees listed on ancestry are the person working this line and another researcher, and nobody has much on these two people. Just at a loss, I know that there are tons of records for Delaware early, where are the late ones? Hopefully someone can steer me in the right direction. Thanks! -- jan www.bullocks.org