My test was for a surname (Gorman of course) project under FTDNA. Their offices are within walking distance of me. I called to ask if I could hand deliver the test kit but they refused. Gale On Jul 4, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Gale: I understand that the coupons only went out to those who had done the Family Finder test through FTDNA. If yours was a yDNA test, that's probably why you didn't get a coupon. Kirsten -----Original Message----- From: Gale Gorman Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:28 PM To: Kirsten Bowman Cc: Barton Lewis ; roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] FTDNA Sale I was tested (Y-DNA) just a few months ago and they didn't send me anything about a sale. Gale Gorman Houston On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Barton: They just did. It was a discount coupon good for $100 off on the Family Finder test and was offered to those who had already tested so they could pass it on to family and friends. This may have been their usual "summer special." Kirsten -----Original Message----- From: Barton Lewis Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:19 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] FTDNA Sale Does anyone know if FTDNA will be having a sale anytime soon? Barton in Brooklyn

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I was tested (Y-DNA) just a few months ago and they didn't send me anything about a sale. Gale Gorman Houston On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Barton: They just did. It was a discount coupon good for $100 off on the Family Finder test and was offered to those who had already tested so they could pass it on to family and friends. This may have been their usual "summer special." Kirsten -----Original Message----- From: Barton Lewis Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:19 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] FTDNA Sale Does anyone know if FTDNA will be having a sale anytime soon? Barton in Brooklyn

Gale: I understand that the coupons only went out to those who had done the Family Finder test through FTDNA. If yours was a yDNA test, that's probably why you didn't get a coupon. Kirsten -----Original Message----- From: Gale Gorman Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:28 PM To: Kirsten Bowman Cc: Barton Lewis ; roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] FTDNA Sale I was tested (Y-DNA) just a few months ago and they didn't send me anything about a sale. Gale Gorman Houston On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Barton: They just did. It was a discount coupon good for $100 off on the Family Finder test and was offered to those who had already tested so they could pass it on to family and friends. This may have been their usual "summer special." Kirsten -----Original Message----- From: Barton Lewis Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:19 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] FTDNA Sale Does anyone know if FTDNA will be having a sale anytime soon? Barton in Brooklyn

The binding of the census is obscuring the first initals I will send you the image behind the list Eliz On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Marce Schulz <marceschulz@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi list, > > I may have uncovered a monkey wrench in my Boettger family who I thought > arrived in Philadelphia from Hannover and stayed put. On a recent Ancestry > search I found this listing under the 1861 Canada Census (spelling as listed > in the search results): > > *OrrlebBoettger b 1816 > Johanna Boettger b 1818 > *Eodore Boettger b. 1839 > *Ulius Boettger b. 1841 > Mary Boettger b. 1843 > Charles Boettger b. 1845 > Elyabeth Boettger b. 1853 > *Ad* Boettger b. 1855 > *H?St Boettger > > All are listed under "township, Wentworth, Canada West." > > My family are: > > Gottlob (sometimes Gottlieb) b. 1815 > Johanna b. 1818 > Theodor b. 1839 > Julius b. 1841 > Maria b. 1843 > Carl (later Charles) b. 1844 > Elisabeth b. 1852 > Friedrich b. 1855 > Albert b. 1858 > > This certainly looks like it could be my family. The mother and children > except for Theodor arrived in Philadelphia in December 1855. I can't find > them in the 1860 census, nor can I find an arrival for the father and oldest > boy. They are in Philadelphia in 1863, where I find draft registrations for > the older boys, and a death certificate for the father Gottlob. He died of > "acute mania," whatever that is, and it doesn't sound good. > > Could someone with access to the 1861 Canada census look them up for me and > give me the details? That's a lot of names and dates in common to be a > coincidence. > > Thanks in advance. > > Marce > Aboard s/v Escape Velocity > http://escapevelocity.mobi > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Marce, I looked at that 1861 Census and it does match up with what you already know about the family; however, Theodore and Julius, while listed, have marks through their data and entries in the column "Members of family absent". In the column "Residence if out of limits", there is an entry for both missing males. It's difficult to read. There is a word I can't make out and underneath the word is U.C, and under that is US. I "think" that means they were members of that family but were, at that time, in the U.S. The head of the family is listed as a Teacher of Music, born in Saxony. The wife and all children except for the last one (Albert?) are listed as born in Hanover. The last one is listed as born in U.S It's unfortunate that whoever copied the Census pages didn't get all of the left side of the page showing all of the given names. Wentworth is a little over 500 miles from Philadelphia, so the family could have resided temporarily in Canada in 1861. Looking at the 1870 Census for Philadelphia, PA, there is a Joana BOETTGER, age 49, Widow; also three children, Lizzie, age 11; Frederick, age 15, and Albert, age 12. (I think the age for Lizzie is incorrect; should have been 17.) George At 7/4/2012 03:16 PM Wednesday, Marce Schulz wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Hi list, > >I may have uncovered a monkey wrench in my Boettger family who I thought >arrived in Philadelphia from Hannover and stayed put. On a recent Ancestry >search I found this listing under the 1861 Canada Census (spelling as listed >in the search results): > >*OrrlebBoettger b 1816 >Johanna Boettger b 1818 >*Eodore Boettger b. 1839 >*Ulius Boettger b. 1841 >Mary Boettger b. 1843 >Charles Boettger b. 1845 >Elyabeth Boettger b. 1853 >*Ad* Boettger b. 1855 >*H?St Boettger > >All are listed under "township, Wentworth, Canada West." > >My family are: > >Gottlob (sometimes Gottlieb) b. 1815 >Johanna b. 1818 >Theodor b. 1839 >Julius b. 1841 >Maria b. 1843 >Carl (later Charles) b. 1844 >Elisabeth b. 1852 >Friedrich b. 1855 >Albert b. 1858 > >This certainly looks like it could be my family. The mother and children >except for Theodor arrived in Philadelphia in December 1855. I can't find >them in the 1860 census, nor can I find an arrival for the father and oldest >boy. They are in Philadelphia in 1863, where I find draft registrations for >the older boys, and a death certificate for the father Gottlob. He died of >"acute mania," whatever that is, and it doesn't sound good. > >Could someone with access to the 1861 Canada census look them up for me and >give me the details? That's a lot of names and dates in common to be a >coincidence. > >Thanks in advance. > >Marce >Aboard s/v Escape Velocity >http://escapevelocity.mobi > >===== >If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Germanna Database at Ancestry: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/family My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Your uncle is the son of Jeremiah? born New York 1850? I couldn't find the other man either Is this your Edwin? Name: Edwin E. Taylor Gender: Male Burial Date: Burial Place: , Wood Co., Ohio Death Date: 02 Feb 1893 Death Place: Bowling Green, Wood, Ohio Age: 43 Birth Date: 1850 Birthplace: Dswego Co., New York Occupation: Farmer Race: White Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B07053-0 System Origin: Ohio-EASy Source Film Number: 422294 Reference Number: v 2 p 193 And then there is this man who just might be the other one, I find the Tontogany very interesting Name: Edwin Taller Gender: Male Burial Date: Burial Place: , Wood Co., Ohio Death Date: 29 Aug 1896 Death Place: Tontogany, Wood, Ohio Age: 75 Birth Date: 1821 Birthplace: Delaware Co., Ohio Occupation: Lawyer Race: White Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B07053-0 System Origin: Ohio-EASy Source Film Number: 422294 Reference Number: v 2 p 194 Source Citation "Ohio, Deaths and Burials, 1854-1997," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F6V6-R6K : accessed 4 July 2012), Edwin Taller, 1896 On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:19 PM, John D. Sissom <johnsissom@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Hi Gang, > > I found the following man's headstone/marker and thought he was my uncle until I saw the date of birth. My G-uncle, Edwin Zacharia Taylor, was born 1850, died 2 Feb 1893 and is buried same cemetery. Could they be related? I have not found Edwin (below) in a census. > > TAYLOR, Edwin Z. 1816 1890 Tontogany Cemetery, Wood County, Ohio > > The above man served in the GAR. > > Thanks, > > John > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am still looking for a passenger list for the ship Jacob. passenger list for the Jacob: http://www.progenealogists.com/palproject/pa/1749jacob.htm The Palatine Project has a record of the ship. The problem is that only 135 passengers are listed out of the 249. I am looking for Johann Anton and Anna Maria Elizabeth Kurtz Darter (lots of spellings ie Dotter, Doerther, etc.) and their small children Nicholas and Jacob. They are not in the 135 names and thus I need to get a complete passenger list. All of the details fit such as exit port, entrance port-Philadelphia except the complete list. Does anyone know where I can look for the complete list. I have tried the following beside The Palatine Project. Ancestry LDS Olive Tree NARA but I could not figure out how it works There must be other places. Thanks for any help that anyone can be. Velma VJSpringer@aol.com.

Hi list, I may have uncovered a monkey wrench in my Boettger family who I thought arrived in Philadelphia from Hannover and stayed put. On a recent Ancestry search I found this listing under the 1861 Canada Census (spelling as listed in the search results): *OrrlebBoettger b 1816 Johanna Boettger b 1818 *Eodore Boettger b. 1839 *Ulius Boettger b. 1841 Mary Boettger b. 1843 Charles Boettger b. 1845 Elyabeth Boettger b. 1853 *Ad* Boettger b. 1855 *H?St Boettger All are listed under "township, Wentworth, Canada West." My family are: Gottlob (sometimes Gottlieb) b. 1815 Johanna b. 1818 Theodor b. 1839 Julius b. 1841 Maria b. 1843 Carl (later Charles) b. 1844 Elisabeth b. 1852 Friedrich b. 1855 Albert b. 1858 This certainly looks like it could be my family. The mother and children except for Theodor arrived in Philadelphia in December 1855. I can't find them in the 1860 census, nor can I find an arrival for the father and oldest boy. They are in Philadelphia in 1863, where I find draft registrations for the older boys, and a death certificate for the father Gottlob. He died of "acute mania," whatever that is, and it doesn't sound good. Could someone with access to the 1861 Canada census look them up for me and give me the details? That's a lot of names and dates in common to be a coincidence. Thanks in advance. Marce Aboard s/v Escape Velocity http://escapevelocity.mobi

Dianna Not sure how Eleanor Byrne b ca 1880 relates to the two Eleanor Byrnes in London who d bef 1855, but here goes: The 1841 census has, in the Tower Hamlets: Eleanor Byrne, b ca 1816, Ireland, living in Poplar, Middx Eleanor Byrne, b ca 1839, Ireland, in Poplar, Middx (same household for these two, meaning that they moved to Middx after 1840) Husband was John Byrne, wife Eleanor. Other children were Elizabeth, Theodore, Marion, (all born Ireland) Mary, Anna (born in Middx ca 1840). John is a clerk. I do not find the family in 1851. Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dianna charles Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:00 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] 1841 and 1851 Census London Hi Everyone Would someone be so kind as to look for a Great Aunt of mine who was living in London on both census, her name is ELEANOR BYRNE (Single born around 1880 Ireland) There were two Eleanor Byrnes one died in 1853 London and one died in 1844 London. I would like to see where both of these ladies were born, it may just say Ireland or if I'm lucky it may have the town also. Any help is very much appreciated. Kindest regards Dianna ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gang,   I found the following man's headstone/marker and thought he was my uncle until I saw the date of birth.  My G-uncle, Edwin Zacharia Taylor, was born 1850, died 2 Feb 1893 and is buried same cemetery.  Could they be related?  I have not found Edwin (below) in a census.   TAYLOR, Edwin Z. 1816 1890 Tontogany Cemetery, Wood County, Ohio   The above man served in the GAR.   Thanks,   John

glitteringgem,   I was unable to find a death record for Martha or Sarah Elizabeth Pulliam.  What I did find and you may already know this, that Sarah married Charles Hale Dalton in 1890 and she went by the name Bessie in the Census records.  Charles Hale died in 1941 in Tennessee.   Their marriage record in 1890 did not list her father, only her mother.  What I was able to find was an Ancestry member who had Sarah Elizabeth in her tree.  She shows that Sarah Elizabeth died in 1955 in Bristol Virginia, but she does not have a source for that information.  I'd be happy to contact the member for you if you would like and see if I can find out more info.  Just let me know.            From: glitteringgem@gmail.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Martha Pulliam To: ROOTS@rootsweb.com Message-ID:     <63801763-1341365770-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-808940547-@b12.c18.bise6.blackberry>     Content-Type: text/plain I'm looking for information on Martha Pulliam's death date and burial information. She was born in mcdowell, NC around 1852 and her daughter, Sarah Elizabeth Pulliam was born in 1872. I have no idea if martha died at childbirth or while sarah was a little girl. If anyone can help locating martha's death cerificate and sarah elizabeth's birth info that might lead to her father's identity, that would be much appreciated! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

I'm looking for information on Martha Pulliam's death date and burial information. She was born in mcdowell, NC around 1852 and her daughter, Sarah Elizabeth Pulliam was born in 1872. I have no idea if martha died at childbirth or while sarah was a little girl. If anyone can help locating martha's death cerificate and sarah elizabeth's birth info that might lead to her father's identity, that would be much appreciated! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Thanks. I was hoping for a Y-DNA test. I thought they might run something for the holiday weekend. Barton On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: > Barton: > > They just did. It was a discount coupon good for $100 off on the > Family Finder test and was offered to those who had already tested so > they could pass it on to family and friends. This may have been their > usual "summer special." > > Kirsten > > -----Original Message----- From: Barton Lewis > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:19 PM > To: roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ROOTS-L] FTDNA Sale > > Does anyone know if FTDNA will be having a sale anytime soon? > > Barton in Brooklyn > =====

Barton: It's possible they might have another "sale" during the summer, but it seems to me they generally run just one special in the summer and another around the winter holidays. Kirsten -----Original Message----- From: BARTON LEWIS Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 8:31 PM To: viking@rvi.net Cc: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] FTDNA Sale Thanks. I was hoping for a Y-DNA test. I thought they might run something for the holiday weekend. Barton On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: > Barton: > > They just did. It was a discount coupon good for $100 off on the Family > Finder test and was offered to those who had already tested so they could > pass it on to family and friends. This may have been their usual "summer > special." > > Kirsten > > -----Original Message----- From: Barton Lewis > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:19 PM > To: roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ROOTS-L] FTDNA Sale > > Does anyone know if FTDNA will be having a sale anytime soon? > > Barton in Brooklyn > =====

Barton: They just did. It was a discount coupon good for $100 off on the Family Finder test and was offered to those who had already tested so they could pass it on to family and friends. This may have been their usual "summer special." Kirsten -----Original Message----- From: Barton Lewis Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:19 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] FTDNA Sale Does anyone know if FTDNA will be having a sale anytime soon? Barton in Brooklyn =====

Does anyone know if FTDNA will be having a sale anytime soon? Barton in Brooklyn

The LDS doesn't loan but they will copy relevant pages for a reasonable fee. A total life saver sometimes <G> Eliz On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:25 PM, <vjspringer@aol.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I was looking for a ships passenger list. Thanks to those who sent suggestions. One very kind person found the ship JACOB on the Palatine Project by Pro Genealogist. The ship did leave Rotterdam and sailed by way of Shields, England to Philadelphia. It arrived on 02 October 1749. There were people by the name of Dotter on board. That is one of at least a dozen spellings of the name. So far everything seems to fit > > MY PROBLEM > There were 249 people who were passengers. The trouble was that only about 135 of the passengers were listed. Of those listed there were women and children listed with their ages. This means that it was not just a matter of only the head of household being listed. Does anyone know where I might find the other page of passengers? I am looking for Johann Anton Darter (Doerther, Dotter) and his wife Anna Maria > Elizabeth Kurtz Darter/Tarter. Their very young children Nicholas and Jacob should be with them. > > I did look at the listings at family search. Almost all of the listings are for 1800 or later. The few that were listed before that were in books. The LDS doesn't loan books. > > I tried NARA but could not figure it out how it works. > > I just had another thought. Does anyone know if there is a list of the passengers from this ship who might have taken the Oath of Allegiance in Philadelphia. > > I am fairly certain that the Jacob is the correct ship. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I might find the remainder of passenger list? > > Thanks for any help thatyou can be. > > Velma > VJSpringer@aol.com > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I was looking for a ships passenger list. Thanks to those who sent suggestions. One very kind person found the ship JACOB on the Palatine Project by Pro Genealogist. The ship did leave Rotterdam and sailed by way of Shields, England to Philadelphia. It arrived on 02 October 1749. There were people by the name of Dotter on board. That is one of at least a dozen spellings of the name. So far everything seems to fit MY PROBLEM There were 249 people who were passengers. The trouble was that only about 135 of the passengers were listed. Of those listed there were women and children listed with their ages. This means that it was not just a matter of only the head of household being listed. Does anyone know where I might find the other page of passengers? I am looking for Johann Anton Darter (Doerther, Dotter) and his wife Anna Maria Elizabeth Kurtz Darter/Tarter. Their very young children Nicholas and Jacob should be with them. I did look at the listings at family search. Almost all of the listings are for 1800 or later. The few that were listed before that were in books. The LDS doesn't loan books. I tried NARA but could not figure it out how it works. I just had another thought. Does anyone know if there is a list of the passengers from this ship who might have taken the Oath of Allegiance in Philadelphia. I am fairly certain that the Jacob is the correct ship. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I might find the remainder of passenger list? Thanks for any help thatyou can be. Velma VJSpringer@aol.com