I was checking a distant relative in the 1900 census and found his occupation listed as N. G. 0-0-2. His name was indexed on Ancestry as Dangerfield E. B. and he was in Pacific Grove, Monterey Count, California, roll 94, page 4B. There were others on the same page whose occupations were N. G. 0-0-4, N. G. 0-0-0 and N. G. 0-0-1. Could anyone explain what this means?

Nivard" It has been said, "Of all the things I miss, I miss my mind the most" !! Bud Auburn, CA

Hi Joan I am very much a sceptic regarding facebook or twitter for that matter But am always looking for fresh avenues for research So far facebook has left me very cold so will be interested how others use it The lists appear to be at an all time low with very few posts lately, I suspect more due to the plethora of information now available online than the likes of facebook or twitter but am open to being convinced they are useful Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/07/2012 14:50, JLA wrote: > Facebook has become a very popular resource for genealogy research. > > So an new mailing list and message board are available. > > List: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Internet_Help/FACEBOOK-GENEALOGY.html > > Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.researchresources.facebookgen/mb.ashx > > I hope that those who find Facebook as a valuable resource will share > the experience with others. > > Thanks, > > Joan Asche > List/Board Admin

I'm sorry I can't give it back. When I went to the fridge to get it for you, I couldn't remember what it was either ;^( Maybe if we go back to our original place, it will come to mind and hopefully stay there until we get back to the fridge again ;^). Ann in Santee, CA. From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: [ROOTS-L] A thought for today (if you find it please give it back as I need it :-) Yet I can't recall what on earth I was looking for in the fridge five seconds after going to get whatever it was :-( > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

----- Original Message ----- From: Marion Crawford Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 11:42 AM Subject: query help Hi Folks Trying to get a copy of a court case, that involved a child in care. Her name was Grace Fagan and there was a trial in 1895. The reference number that I found in a theses done by a Julielynne Anderson from Saint Mary's Unv. in 2007, was RG 39, Vol 7, #3 (1895) Queen vs Parker and Miller. Would those cases be held in Halifax? Can you folks tell me how or who to ask to get a copy of the transcript or is it possible for one of you to get it? Marion

In regards to what Nivard was saying about so few posts on here; I find it so irritating that I have to scroll thru the original post over and over when people are responding to the same post. I enjoy the list except for this situation... I don't meant to stir up controversy but it would be more encouraging to post on here if every poster would not leave the original post, in addition to what they have to say about it. Sincerely, Linda ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:01:27 +0100 From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] New Mailing List & Message Board Announcement for Facebook To: roots@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <500C07B7.6030202@sky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Joan I am very much a sceptic regarding facebook or twitter for that matter But am always looking for fresh avenues for research So far facebook has left me very cold so will be interested how others use it The lists appear to be at an all time low with very few posts lately, I suspect more due to the plethora of information now available online than the likes of facebook or twitter but am open to being convinced they are useful Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) *************************************

Amen Don P. Koch dkoch@alaska.com don.koch@northstarexams.com (907) 789-9497 (Alaska time zone) (302) 743-8445 (cell) "This message, including files attached to it, may contain confidential information that is intended only for the use of the ADDRESSEE(S) named above. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of the information contained in this message, or the taking of any action in reliance upon the information, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system. Thank you." On Jul 22, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Nice one Don :-) > > The time to really worry is when you get home and wonder whose dog > it is thats at the end of the leash in your hand <g> > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 22/07/2012 20:35, Donald Koch wrote: >> Three days ago I was taking my usual morning two mile walk with my >> dog >> and noticed these little blue flowers in the drainage ditch were in >> bloom. I knew that they were the Alaska State flower but could not >> remember for the life of me what they are called. Yesterday as I was >> walking by the same patch I remembered they are called >> "Forget-Me-Not's." I then appreciated the irony of the name coupled >> with >> the event and started to laugh. Dog was probably trying to figure out >> what was going on. I still think it was pretty funny. Humor is >> where you >> find it even if you are not looking for it. >> Cheers >> >> Don P. Koch

Three days ago I was taking my usual morning two mile walk with my dog and noticed these little blue flowers in the drainage ditch were in bloom. I knew that they were the Alaska State flower but could not remember for the life of me what they are called. Yesterday as I was walking by the same patch I remembered they are called "Forget-Me- Not's." I then appreciated the irony of the name coupled with the event and started to laugh. Dog was probably trying to figure out what was going on. I still think it was pretty funny. Humor is where you find it even if you are not looking for it. Cheers Don P. Koch dkoch@alaska.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > > This is more a statement than a question ! > > Why is it that I can remember every phone number I have ever had, > every > post code, all manner of trivial things from my childhood > > Yet I can't recall what on earth I was looking for in the fridge five > seconds after going to get whatever it was :-( > > Sheesh! > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to roots-admin@rootsweb.com > and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Thanks Alta, but the mystery continues. When I click on that little gray camera, nothing happens. I am able to click on Bruce's name, but as before, it takes me the abstract of the entry and the options to view it on Ancestry. Not sure what's going on here ... Barton On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Alta Flynt wrote: > The icon looks like a little camera to me - very small for my old > eyes, but it's a grey oblong with a circle in the center with an x in > the circle. It's in front of United States Census, 1930 under Bruce > S. Haynes on the search results page. The original census page is > there and viewable. I looked at it. > > Are you using <http://www.familysearch.org>? With the connection to > Ancestry, it sounds like you're using Roots. > > Alta > > > On 7/22/2012 10:03 AM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >> Hi Alta, it's not clear to me where this icon is or what it is (that >> you're referring to). Bruce S Haynes comes up in the search results >> in the 1930 Whatcom County, Washington census but when I click his >> name, an abstract comes up with a link to see the image at ancestry, >> where it's not viewable. So I'm assuming this particular image is >> not available on familysearch. >> >> Barton >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Alta Flynt wrote: >> >>> Any time there is a little icon with the name on Family Search, you >>> can see the original image. >>> >>> To see the image on Family Search: >>> 1. Click on the name of the searched-for person. >>> 2. Click on "Explore viewing options" in the grey box at the left - >>> pale print on a white background and hard to see. >>> 3. Click on "Sign in." >>> 4. Type in your user name and password or create a new account. >>> 5. Click on Sign In. >>> 6. This takes you to the "indexed page" that you were at before but >>> now it says "view image" in the box. >>> 7. Click on "View Image" and read the original census page. >>> >>> Unfortunately, the indexers on Heritage Quest made mistakes the same >>> as the ones on the other sites did. >>> >>> I also want to see the original image. I don't trust the indexers' >>> spelling and I want to see the info that's not in the index. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Alta >>> >>> On 7/21/2012 10:57 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >>>> Thanks Alta. Bruce Haynes is the head of household but he doesn't >>>> show up in a search on HQ. >>>> >>>> familysearch doesn't allow you to see the original image -- which >>>> is mandatory for me. If anyone can give me the page number for >>>> Bruce Haynes in Whatcom County, WA in 1930 so I can search the >>>> image on HQ, I would appreciate it. >>>> >>>> Barton >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Alta Flynt wrote: >>>> >>>>> Searching by name works on Heritage Quest but my experience has >>>>> been that most years and states are only searchable by the head of >>>>> the household. >>>>> >>>>> Familysearch.org also has the census records and they are >>>>> searchable at no cost. >>>>> >>>>> Alta >>>>> >>>>> On 7/21/2012 7:52 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >>>>>> Thanks everyone for your help finding my relatives in Schuyler >>>>>> County IL >>>>>> and tips on how to search the census on Heritage Quest. Here's >>>>>> another >>>>>> one: when I search for Bruce Haynes in Whatcom Co., WA in 1930 >>>>>> on >>>>>> Ancestry the page comes up blank. I've tried again and again. >>>>>> It says >>>>>> he's on page 7A but since I can't see the page I don't know >>>>>> what's >>>>>> stamped on it so I don't know how to find him in Heritage Quest. >>>>>> I put >>>>>> in page 7 and that does give me the right county but he's not on >>>>>> that >>>>>> page. Does the search by name feature in Heritage QUest work? I >>>>>> have >>>>>> never been able to find anybody by entering the fields for name, >>>>>> census >>>>>> year and state. If someone can figure out what page he is on in >>>>>> Heritage Quest I would appreciate it. Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Barton >>>>>> ===== >>>>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>>>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ===== >>>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>

Proquest stopped indexing 1930 census after only 5 states and has not even bothered to resume since then. These 5 states are CT, De, MD, TX and VA. David Samuelsen On 7/22/2012 6:05 AM, Alta Flynt wrote: > On 7/21/2012 10:57 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >> >Thanks Alta. Bruce Haynes is the head of household but he doesn't show >> >up in a search on HQ.

Hi Alta, it's not clear to me where this icon is or what it is (that you're referring to). Bruce S Haynes comes up in the search results in the 1930 Whatcom County, Washington census but when I click his name, an abstract comes up with a link to see the image at ancestry, where it's not viewable. So I'm assuming this particular image is not available on familysearch. Barton On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Alta Flynt wrote: > Any time there is a little icon with the name on Family Search, you > can see the original image. > > To see the image on Family Search: > 1. Click on the name of the searched-for person. > 2. Click on "Explore viewing options" in the grey box at the left - > pale print on a white background and hard to see. > 3. Click on "Sign in." > 4. Type in your user name and password or create a new account. > 5. Click on Sign In. > 6. This takes you to the "indexed page" that you were at before but > now it says "view image" in the box. > 7. Click on "View Image" and read the original census page. > > Unfortunately, the indexers on Heritage Quest made mistakes the same > as the ones on the other sites did. > > I also want to see the original image. I don't trust the indexers' > spelling and I want to see the info that's not in the index. > > I hope this helps. > > Alta > > On 7/21/2012 10:57 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >> Thanks Alta. Bruce Haynes is the head of household but he doesn't >> show up in a search on HQ. >> >> familysearch doesn't allow you to see the original image -- which is >> mandatory for me. If anyone can give me the page number for Bruce >> Haynes in Whatcom County, WA in 1930 so I can search the image on HQ, >> I would appreciate it. >> >> Barton >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Alta Flynt wrote: >> >>> Searching by name works on Heritage Quest but my experience has been >>> that most years and states are only searchable by the head of the >>> household. >>> >>> Familysearch.org also has the census records and they are searchable >>> at no cost. >>> >>> Alta >>> >>> On 7/21/2012 7:52 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >>>> Thanks everyone for your help finding my relatives in Schuyler >>>> County IL >>>> and tips on how to search the census on Heritage Quest. Here's >>>> another >>>> one: when I search for Bruce Haynes in Whatcom Co., WA in 1930 on >>>> Ancestry the page comes up blank. I've tried again and again. It >>>> says >>>> he's on page 7A but since I can't see the page I don't know what's >>>> stamped on it so I don't know how to find him in Heritage Quest. I >>>> put >>>> in page 7 and that does give me the right county but he's not on >>>> that >>>> page. Does the search by name feature in Heritage QUest work? I >>>> have >>>> never been able to find anybody by entering the fields for name, >>>> census >>>> year and state. If someone can figure out what page he is on in >>>> Heritage Quest I would appreciate it. Thanks. >>>> >>>> Barton >>>> ===== >>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ===== >>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>

Hi Marvel, I did not realize fold3 had census images. I will check for it there. Thanks, Barton On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Marvel Delahaye wrote: Barton, Fold3.com offers free images of the 1930 census and well as some other census records/documents. I have downloaded the image and will forward it. You did not request the 1940 image, however, I downloaded it from FamilySearch. I am not certain which other sites have finished indexing Washington I have been using FamilySearch and Find My Past which seem to be ahead in indexing for my research. http://go.fold3.com/1930census/ Census - US Federal 1930 Washington » WHATCOM » BELLINGHAM CITY , WARD 2 » 37-8 » Sheet 7A County: WHATCOM Haynes, Bruce S (b: 1876*) Household: Haynes, Lucy M (b: 1887*) Haynes, Mildred C (b: 1912*) Haynes, Ruth G (b: 1914*) Wood, Lester G (b: 1904*) Census - US Federal 1930 Name: Bruce S Haynes Event: Census Event Year: 1940 Event Place: Ward 2, Bellingham , Bellingham City , Whatcom , Washington , United States Gender: Male Age: 64 Marital Status: Married Race (Original): White Race (Standardized): White Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head Birthplace: Maryland Estimated Birth Year 1876 Residence in 1935: Same House Enumeration District Number: 37-16 Family Number: 208 Sheet Number and Letter: 62A Line Number: 5 NARA Publication Number: T627 NARA Roll Number: 4368 Digital Folder Number: 005460460 Image Number: 00454 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Bruce S Haynes M 64 Maryland Wife Lucy M Haynes F 53 Massachusetts Daughter Ruth G Haynes F 26 Washington Source Citation "United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K9SP-N17 : accessed 22 July 2012), Bruce S Haynes, Ward 2, Bellingham, Bellingham City, Whatcom, Washington, United States http://go.fold3.com/1930census/ Census - US Federal 1930 Washington » WHATCOM » BELLINGHAM CITY , WARD 2 » 37-8 » Sheet 7A County: WHATCOM Haynes, Bruce S (b: 1876*) Household: Haynes, Lucy M (b: 1887*) Haynes, Mildred C (b: 1912*) Haynes, Ruth G (b: 1914*) Wood, Lester G (b: 1904*) Census - US Federal 1930 Name: Bruce S Haynes Event: Census Event Year: 1940 Event Place: Ward 2, Bellingham , Bellingham City , Whatcom , Washington , United States Gender: Male Age: 64 Marital Status: Married Race (Original): White Race (Standardized): White Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head Birthplace: Maryland Estimated Birth Year 1876 Residence in 1935: Same House Enumeration District Number: 37-16 Family Number: 208 Sheet Number and Letter: 62A Line Number: 5 NARA Publication Number: T627 NARA Roll Number: 4368 Digital Folder Number: 005460460 Image Number: 00454 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Bruce S Haynes M 64 Maryland Wife Lucy M Haynes F 53 Massachusetts Daughter Ruth G Haynes F 26 Washington Source Citation "United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K9SP-N17 : accessed 22 July 2012), Bruce S Haynes, Ward 2, Bellingham, Bellingham City, Whatcom, Washington, United States Marvel Bollinger Delahaye

Hi Eliz, When clicking on your link to familysearch I get an abstract with the message "the image is available at" and the then the option of ancestry and "when using the site at a family history center." Then there is a "Sign in" button below that. Clicking on that just takes me back to the abstract and then the option to see the image at ancestry. I ALWAYS like to see the actual image -- thanks for sending the abstract though. Barton On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote: > This from familysearch should have all you need. But I see what you > mean about blank at ancestry, black and no image, think they messed up > - a lot. > > > Eliz > > Name: Bruce S Haynes > Event: Census > Event Date: 1930 > Event Place: Bellingham, Whatcom, Washington > Gender: Male > Age: 54 > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Birthplace: Maryland > Estimated Birth Year: 1876 > Immigration Year: > Relationship to Head of Household: Head > Father's Birthplace: Maryland > Mother's Birthplace: Maryland > Enumeration District Number: 0008 > Family Number: 183 > Sheet Number and Letter: 7A > Line Number: 35 > NARA Publication: T626, roll 2522 > Film Number: 2342256 > Digital Folder Number: 4547540 > Image Number: 00039 > Household Gender Age Birthplace > Head Bruce S Haynes M 54 Maryland > Wife Lucy M Haynes F 43 Massachusetts > Daughter Mildred C Haynes F 18 Washington > Daughter Ruth G Haynes F 16 Washington > Boarder Lester G Wood M 26 Massachusetts > Source Citation > > "United States Census, 1930," index and images, FamilySearch > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XCQN-8JZ : accessed 22 July > 2012), Bruce S Haynes, Bellingham, Whatcom, Washington. > > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:57 PM, BARTON LEWIS > <bartonlewis@optonline.net> wrote: >> Thanks Alta. Bruce Haynes is the head of household but he doesn't >> show >> up in a search on HQ. >> >> familysearch doesn't allow you to see the original image -- which is >> mandatory for me. If anyone can give me the page number for Bruce >> Haynes in Whatcom County, WA in 1930 so I can search the image on HQ, >> I >> would appreciate it. >> >> Barton >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Alta Flynt wrote: >> >>> Searching by name works on Heritage Quest but my experience has been >>> that most years and states are only searchable by the head of the >>> household. >>> >>> Familysearch.org also has the census records and they are searchable >>> at no cost. >>> >>> Alta >>> >>> On 7/21/2012 7:52 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >>>> Thanks everyone for your help finding my relatives in Schuyler >>>> County >>>> IL >>>> and tips on how to search the census on Heritage Quest. Here's >>>> another >>>> one: when I search for Bruce Haynes in Whatcom Co., WA in 1930 on >>>> Ancestry the page comes up blank. I've tried again and again. It >>>> says >>>> he's on page 7A but since I can't see the page I don't know what's >>>> stamped on it so I don't know how to find him in Heritage Quest. I >>>> put >>>> in page 7 and that does give me the right county but he's not on >>>> that >>>> page. Does the search by name feature in Heritage QUest work? I >>>> have >>>> never been able to find anybody by entering the fields for name, >>>> census >>>> year and state. If someone can figure out what page he is on in >>>> Heritage Quest I would appreciate it. Thanks. >>>> >>>> Barton >>>> ===== >>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ===== >>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ===== >> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I see what's going on now. When you get to the box that says "This image is available" click on the big blue "Sign in" button. That will take you to the page where you either enter your user name and password (if you've done this before) or create a new account - free and easy to do. Then just follow the directions I sent before. Alta On 7/22/2012 10:31 AM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: > Thanks Alta, but the mystery continues. When I click on that little > gray camera, nothing happens. I am able to click on Bruce's name, but > as before, it takes me the abstract of the entry and the options to > view it on Ancestry. Not sure what's going on here ... > > Barton > > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Alta Flynt wrote: > >> The icon looks like a little camera to me - very small for my old >> eyes, but it's a grey oblong with a circle in the center with an x in >> the circle. It's in front of United States Census, 1930 under Bruce >> S. Haynes on the search results page. The original census page is >> there and viewable. I looked at it. >> >> Are you using <http://www.familysearch.org>? With the connection to >> Ancestry, it sounds like you're using Roots. >> >> Alta >> >> >> On 7/22/2012 10:03 AM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >>> Hi Alta, it's not clear to me where this icon is or what it is (that >>> you're referring to). Bruce S Haynes comes up in the search results >>> in the 1930 Whatcom County, Washington census but when I click his >>> name, an abstract comes up with a link to see the image at ancestry, >>> where it's not viewable. So I'm assuming this particular image is >>> not available on familysearch. >>> >>> Barton >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Alta Flynt wrote: >>> >>>> Any time there is a little icon with the name on Family Search, you >>>> can see the original image. >>>> >>>> To see the image on Family Search: >>>> 1. Click on the name of the searched-for person. >>>> 2. Click on "Explore viewing options" in the grey box at the left - >>>> pale print on a white background and hard to see. >>>> 3. Click on "Sign in." >>>> 4. Type in your user name and password or create a new account. >>>> 5. Click on Sign In. >>>> 6. This takes you to the "indexed page" that you were at before but >>>> now it says "view image" in the box. >>>> 7. Click on "View Image" and read the original census page. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, the indexers on Heritage Quest made mistakes the >>>> same as the ones on the other sites did. >>>> >>>> I also want to see the original image. I don't trust the indexers' >>>> spelling and I want to see the info that's not in the index. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Alta >>>> >>>> On 7/21/2012 10:57 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >>>>> Thanks Alta. Bruce Haynes is the head of household but he doesn't >>>>> show up in a search on HQ. >>>>> >>>>> familysearch doesn't allow you to see the original image -- which >>>>> is mandatory for me. If anyone can give me the page number for >>>>> Bruce Haynes in Whatcom County, WA in 1930 so I can search the >>>>> image on HQ, I would appreciate it. >>>>> >>>>> Barton >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Alta Flynt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Searching by name works on Heritage Quest but my experience has >>>>>> been that most years and states are only searchable by the head >>>>>> of the household. >>>>>> >>>>>> Familysearch.org also has the census records and they are >>>>>> searchable at no cost. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alta >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/21/2012 7:52 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >>>>>>> Thanks everyone for your help finding my relatives in Schuyler >>>>>>> County IL >>>>>>> and tips on how to search the census on Heritage Quest. Here's >>>>>>> another >>>>>>> one: when I search for Bruce Haynes in Whatcom Co., WA in 1930 on >>>>>>> Ancestry the page comes up blank. I've tried again and again. >>>>>>> It says >>>>>>> he's on page 7A but since I can't see the page I don't know what's >>>>>>> stamped on it so I don't know how to find him in Heritage Quest. >>>>>>> I put >>>>>>> in page 7 and that does give me the right county but he's not on >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> page. Does the search by name feature in Heritage QUest work? >>>>>>> I have >>>>>>> never been able to find anybody by entering the fields for name, >>>>>>> census >>>>>>> year and state. If someone can figure out what page he is on in >>>>>>> Heritage Quest I would appreciate it. Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Barton >>>>>>> ===== >>>>>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>>>>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ===== >>>>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>>>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>> >

Hey, join the crowd! (I am still laughing) -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 10:13 AM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] A thought for today (if you find it please give it back as I need it :-) This is more a statement than a question ! Why is it that I can remember every phone number I have ever had, every post code, all manner of trivial things from my childhood Yet I can't recall what on earth I was looking for in the fridge five seconds after going to get whatever it was :-( Sheesh! -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to <mailto:roots-admin@rootsweb.com> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <mailto:ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The icon looks like a little camera to me - very small for my old eyes, but it's a grey oblong with a circle in the center with an x in the circle. It's in front of United States Census, 1930 under Bruce S. Haynes on the search results page. The original census page is there and viewable. I looked at it. Are you using <http://www.familysearch.org>? With the connection to Ancestry, it sounds like you're using Roots. Alta On 7/22/2012 10:03 AM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: > Hi Alta, it's not clear to me where this icon is or what it is (that > you're referring to). Bruce S Haynes comes up in the search results > in the 1930 Whatcom County, Washington census but when I click his > name, an abstract comes up with a link to see the image at ancestry, > where it's not viewable. So I'm assuming this particular image is not > available on familysearch. > > Barton > > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Alta Flynt wrote: > >> Any time there is a little icon with the name on Family Search, you >> can see the original image. >> >> To see the image on Family Search: >> 1. Click on the name of the searched-for person. >> 2. Click on "Explore viewing options" in the grey box at the left - >> pale print on a white background and hard to see. >> 3. Click on "Sign in." >> 4. Type in your user name and password or create a new account. >> 5. Click on Sign In. >> 6. This takes you to the "indexed page" that you were at before but >> now it says "view image" in the box. >> 7. Click on "View Image" and read the original census page. >> >> Unfortunately, the indexers on Heritage Quest made mistakes the same >> as the ones on the other sites did. >> >> I also want to see the original image. I don't trust the indexers' >> spelling and I want to see the info that's not in the index. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Alta >> >> On 7/21/2012 10:57 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >>> Thanks Alta. Bruce Haynes is the head of household but he doesn't >>> show up in a search on HQ. >>> >>> familysearch doesn't allow you to see the original image -- which is >>> mandatory for me. If anyone can give me the page number for Bruce >>> Haynes in Whatcom County, WA in 1930 so I can search the image on >>> HQ, I would appreciate it. >>> >>> Barton >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Alta Flynt wrote: >>> >>>> Searching by name works on Heritage Quest but my experience has >>>> been that most years and states are only searchable by the head of >>>> the household. >>>> >>>> Familysearch.org also has the census records and they are >>>> searchable at no cost. >>>> >>>> Alta >>>> >>>> On 7/21/2012 7:52 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >>>>> Thanks everyone for your help finding my relatives in Schuyler >>>>> County IL >>>>> and tips on how to search the census on Heritage Quest. Here's >>>>> another >>>>> one: when I search for Bruce Haynes in Whatcom Co., WA in 1930 on >>>>> Ancestry the page comes up blank. I've tried again and again. It >>>>> says >>>>> he's on page 7A but since I can't see the page I don't know what's >>>>> stamped on it so I don't know how to find him in Heritage Quest. >>>>> I put >>>>> in page 7 and that does give me the right county but he's not on that >>>>> page. Does the search by name feature in Heritage QUest work? I >>>>> have >>>>> never been able to find anybody by entering the fields for name, >>>>> census >>>>> year and state. If someone can figure out what page he is on in >>>>> Heritage Quest I would appreciate it. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Barton >>>>> ===== >>>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> ===== >>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>> roots-admin@rootsweb.com and ask for the digest... >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >

I use FB, but am generally repulsed by it. they don't handle it well, people post truly stupid things (a niece posted a photo of her daughters new driver's license, for instance, and that daughter posted a rather revealing photo AND her address and phone number. honestly, what were they thinking?!?) but it got me back in touch with some of my siblings after a family rift, and I have had some interesting conversations with RAOGK volunteers and used other FB genealogy lists, not with a lot of success, but if I were just starting my research I'd be hauling in a goldmine of information from them-and I have had some interesting leads on my more difficult lines thanks to people who are knowledgable in my ancestor's home town. for instance, a lady on RAOGK international sent me the link to Clan Donald House, Skye, yesterday. hopefully they'll be able to help me learn more about my McDonald ancestors. I don't know how long it would have taken me to find out bout the link myself, sometimes I'm too focused on an ancestor tfgo see the bigger picture. but when I spoke to Clan Donald U.S.A., and Clan Donald Canada, they never told me about Clan Donald House, Skye. go figure. from what I've seen on the lists, some are extremely helpful. I was disappointed with NEHGS, though. I posted one or two queries, but was completely ignored by them. Cornelia

USING VITAL RECORDS: Birth certificates and death certificates and other vital records contain valuable information, but they are sometimes expensive to obtain. Before you decide not to order them, keep in mind that they sometimes contain additional information that corroborates or conflicts with your present information, such as surname spellings or different dates. Each state maintains vital records and decides where to keep them. Death certificates may be in the possession of the county but the state may also have a copy. Sometimes counties transfer their records elsewhere, possibly to the state archives. Therefore you have to know where to look for the records. Ancestry's Redbook as well as Everton's Handybook for Genealogists list every state and where to find records as well as when the county was formed and the years for which records are available. You may also find that information on the Web if you do some searching for the state's web page. A start at the county in which the event took place should be your first step. A call or a letter to the proper office will usually tell you whether they have the type of record you are looking for and the cost to copy it for you. If they don't have it, they may be able to tell you where to obtain it. Cost could vary depending on whether you need a certified copy or a non-certified copy. Generally, for your research, a non-certified copy will suffice but for legal matters, you may need a certified copy. They both contain the same information. Keep in mind, that a great deal of records were lost during the Civil War due to fire. The Superintendent of Documents, Government Printing Office, Washington, DC 20402 has an inexpensive and helpful booklet "Where to Write for Vital Records" . When you request your records, be sure to provide complete information. Give the full name, and any other names that the record might be under. If you are not sure of the date, give the closest approximation you can provide - or a range of years. Delayed birth certificates are common if the person was born prior to the date of keeping records. They were sometimes obtained by the individual so they could obtain other forms of identification such as a passport or to obtain Social Security. Sometimes recent birth records may not be available to you unless you can prove a relationship to the deceased person. Some states will not provide a birth record at all unless you prove the relationship. If it is your parent, a copy of your own birth record will help. Consider using census records to prove your relationship - or a death certificate if you have one - or an obit. The reasons for these rules, which vary from state to state, is that birth certificates can be used to obtain a new identity by obtaining driver's licenses, passports, etc. Keep in mind when obtaining death certificates, they are only as good as the person's knowledge who gives the information. A child or a sibling would probably be more aware of the facts than a neighbor or a friend who may not know all the facts. Marriage licenses are sometimes the only proof of a marriage - but keep in mind, the marriage may or may not have taken place. Sometimes you can find a church record to confirm that the marriage occurred. More and more records are being transcribed, published in books and/or placed on the web but remember, in transcribing them - they are subject to errors on the part of the transcriber. More Tips on my This and That page, see below URL. Shirley Hornbeck <http://www.genealogical.com/products/This%20and%20That%20Genealogy%20Tips/9377.html> <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck> Shirley Hornbeck http://www.genealogical.com/products/This%20and%20That%20Genealogy%20Tips/9377.html http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hornbeck/index.htm

Facebook has become a very popular resource for genealogy research. So an new mailing list and message board are available. List: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Internet_Help/FACEBOOK-GENEALOGY.html Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.researchresources.facebookgen/mb.ashx I hope that those who find Facebook as a valuable resource will share the experience with others. Thanks, Joan Asche List/Board Admin

I'm looking for obituaries for KATHARINE MACVEAGH (died August 17, 1969 in Santa Barbara, California) and WALTER G. SEYMOUR OAKMAN (died January 15, 1969 in Santa Barbara, California). Thanks to anyone who can help. Barbara in Whitesboro, New York bgranato53@gmail.com